Re: [Freesurfer] warping segmentations onto unprocessed brain

2015-02-26 Thread David Grayson
ok, great.

so let's say I have a linear transformation or a full warp field to go
between the freesurfer processed image and the unprocessed brain. is there
a way that I can propagate onto the unprocessed image the entire freesurfer
contents including the "mri" and "label" and everything else, using the
warp? The processed image has extensive manual edits, so I basically just
want to transfer everything over.

Thanks Bruce!

-David

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 6:05 AM, Bruce Fischl 
wrote:

> Hi David
>
> yes, you can use bbregister to do the rigid alignment, then use it as
> initialization for mri_nl_align. I would think you are better off doing the
> surface recons and using cvs though. It's only computer time
>
> cheers
> Bruce
>
> On Wed, 25 Feb 2015, David Grayson wrote:
>
> > Hey Bruce,
> > Thanks for responding. I would actually prefer nonlinear. I did not
> mention
> > it, but the aseg data that I have is on a distortion-corrected T1 image,
> > whereas the unprocessed image I want to warp onto is the same scan but
> not
> > corrected for distortion. The distortions are nonlinear. I was hoping
> there
> > might be a way to get a warp field to go between the two images without
> > running both images through the recon-all pipeline. Are there any other
> > possible tools?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > -David
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Bruce Fischl <
> fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
> > wrote:
> >   Is there any reason you need it to be nonlinear? I would think
> >   bbregister and mri_vol2vol would do the trick
> >   Cheers
> >   Bruce
> >
> >
> >
> >   > On Feb 25, 2015, at 11:18 PM, David Grayson
> >wrote:
> >   >
> >   > Hi freesurfers,
> >   >
> >   > I am hoping to warp an aparc+aseg.mgh file from a subject's
> >   freesurfer-processed image to a separate (unprocessed) T1 image
> >   on the same subject. I would like to use a purely
> >   intensity-based nonlinear volumetric registration to do this, to
> >   save time and complication. I understand I can do this if I have
> >   a .m3z warp file.
> >   >
> >   > My question is, how can I get this warp file? I have tried
> >   using mri_cvs_register with the --step3 option, but that appears
> >   to only work after the surface-based registrations have been
> >   carried out. I haven't found another tool to do this yet.
> >   >
> >   > Are there any ideas? Thank you very much for your time.
> >   >
> >   > -David
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Re: [Freesurfer] warping segmentations onto unprocessed brain

2015-02-26 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi David

yes, you can use bbregister to do the rigid alignment, then use it as 
initialization for mri_nl_align. I would think you are better off doing the 
surface recons and using cvs though. It's only computer time

cheers
Bruce

On Wed, 25 Feb 2015, David Grayson wrote:

> Hey Bruce,
> Thanks for responding. I would actually prefer nonlinear. I did not mention
> it, but the aseg data that I have is on a distortion-corrected T1 image,
> whereas the unprocessed image I want to warp onto is the same scan but not
> corrected for distortion. The distortions are nonlinear. I was hoping there
> might be a way to get a warp field to go between the two images without
> running both images through the recon-all pipeline. Are there any other
> possible tools?
> 
> Thanks!
> -David
> 
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Bruce Fischl 
> wrote:
>   Is there any reason you need it to be nonlinear? I would think
>   bbregister and mri_vol2vol would do the trick
>   Cheers
>   Bruce
> 
> 
>
>   > On Feb 25, 2015, at 11:18 PM, David Grayson
>wrote:
>   >
>   > Hi freesurfers,
>   >
>   > I am hoping to warp an aparc+aseg.mgh file from a subject's
>   freesurfer-processed image to a separate (unprocessed) T1 image
>   on the same subject. I would like to use a purely
>   intensity-based nonlinear volumetric registration to do this, to
>   save time and complication. I understand I can do this if I have
>   a .m3z warp file.
>   >
>   > My question is, how can I get this warp file? I have tried
>   using mri_cvs_register with the --step3 option, but that appears
>   to only work after the surface-based registrations have been
>   carried out. I haven't found another tool to do this yet.
>   >
>   > Are there any ideas? Thank you very much for your time.
>   >
>   > -David
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Re: [Freesurfer] warping segmentations onto unprocessed brain

2015-02-25 Thread David Grayson
Hey Bruce,

Thanks for responding. I would actually prefer nonlinear. I did not mention
it, but the aseg data that I have is on a distortion-corrected T1 image,
whereas the unprocessed image I want to warp onto is the same scan but not
corrected for distortion. The distortions are nonlinear. I was hoping there
might be a way to get a warp field to go between the two images without
running both images through the recon-all pipeline. Are there any other
possible tools?

Thanks!
-David

On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Bruce Fischl 
wrote:

> Is there any reason you need it to be nonlinear? I would think bbregister
> and mri_vol2vol would do the trick
> Cheers
> Bruce
>
>
>
> > On Feb 25, 2015, at 11:18 PM, David Grayson 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi freesurfers,
> >
> > I am hoping to warp an aparc+aseg.mgh file from a subject's
> freesurfer-processed image to a separate (unprocessed) T1 image on the same
> subject. I would like to use a purely intensity-based nonlinear volumetric
> registration to do this, to save time and complication. I understand I can
> do this if I have a .m3z warp file.
> >
> > My question is, how can I get this warp file? I have tried using
> mri_cvs_register with the --step3 option, but that appears to only work
> after the surface-based registrations have been carried out. I haven't
> found another tool to do this yet.
> >
> > Are there any ideas? Thank you very much for your time.
> >
> > -David
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Re: [Freesurfer] warping segmentations onto unprocessed brain

2015-02-25 Thread Bruce Fischl
Is there any reason you need it to be nonlinear? I would think bbregister and 
mri_vol2vol would do the trick
Cheers
Bruce



> On Feb 25, 2015, at 11:18 PM, David Grayson  wrote:
> 
> Hi freesurfers,
> 
> I am hoping to warp an aparc+aseg.mgh file from a subject's 
> freesurfer-processed image to a separate (unprocessed) T1 image on the same 
> subject. I would like to use a purely intensity-based nonlinear volumetric 
> registration to do this, to save time and complication. I understand I can do 
> this if I have a .m3z warp file.
> 
> My question is, how can I get this warp file? I have tried using 
> mri_cvs_register with the --step3 option, but that appears to only work after 
> the surface-based registrations have been carried out. I haven't found 
> another tool to do this yet.
> 
> Are there any ideas? Thank you very much for your time.
> 
> -David
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[Freesurfer] warping segmentations onto unprocessed brain

2015-02-25 Thread David Grayson
Hi freesurfers,

I am hoping to warp an aparc+aseg.mgh file from a subject's
freesurfer-processed image to a separate (unprocessed) T1 image on the same
subject. I would like to use a purely intensity-based nonlinear volumetric
registration to do this, to save time and complication. I understand I can
do this if I have a .m3z warp file.

My question is, how can I get this warp file? I have tried using
mri_cvs_register with the --step3 option, but that appears to only work
after the surface-based registrations have been carried out. I haven't
found another tool to do this yet.

Are there any ideas? Thank you very much for your time.

-David
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