Re: [Freesurfer] Xhemi stat questions

2013-03-27 Thread Douglas N Greve

If you use

thick = fast_vol2mat(MRIread('file.mgh'));
thick will be a matrix of nsubjects-by-nvertices.

Note that the vertex indices from labels are 0-based whereas matlab 
expects 1-based.

doug


On 03/27/2013 09:08 AM, Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla wrote:
> That makes much more sense than the thing I was looking for.
>
> Now I have a problem reading the lh.lh-rh.thickness.mgh with the 
> load_mgh.m function, as I have no idea of how to read it to get the 
> vertex by vertex thickness value of each subject.
>
> I tryed as [thick, ~,~,~]=load_mgh('file.mgh',[],[1:nSubjs])
> then reading: subjIDthick=thick(vtxID,1,1,subjID);
> where vtxID es the vertex of the .label file I want, and subjID is the 
> number of the subject.
> is that correct?
>
> All this is because I will use it as a covariate in the statistical 
> analysis as suggested in
> http://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg27129.html
>
>
> Regards,
> Gabriel.
>
>
>
> El 26/03/13, *Douglas N Greve *  escribió:
>> Unless you specifically need them for an individual, you should get them
>> from lh.lh-rh.thickness.mgh because that data is sampled onto the
>> symmetric template and so should be unbiased (ie, it will not
>> systematically favor lh or rh).
>> doug
>>
>>
>> On 03/26/2013 12:40 PM, Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla wrote:
>> > Dear Doug,
>> >
>> > I meant of a given subject,
>> >
>> > But, As I'm thinking about this, I'm wondering if it has sense to have
>> > left and right cortical thickness of my every individual subjects, or
>> > if I should obtain the lh-rh thickness differences for the individuals?
>> >
>> > I suppose that I should read the lh.lh-rh.thickness.mgh created by
>> > mris_preproc to get the average differences in lh-rh hemispheres.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Gabriel
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > El 25/03/13, *Douglas N Greve *  escribió:
>> >>
>> >> Do you mean you want the right hemi thicknesses on the left hemisphere
>> >> of a given subject or on the fsaverage_sym?
>> >> doug
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 03/25/2013 11:25 AM, Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla wrote:
>> >> > Thank you, so I'm keeping the one I had.
>> >> >
>> >> > Sorry for my bad explanation. When I do a normal cortical thickness
>> >> > study, I know the average thickness for a label, e.g. cortex, 
>> and the
>> >> > values at each vertex of each hemisphere are stored in
>> >> > $subject/surf/?l.thickness. I would like to know if it is 
>> possible to
>> >> > obtain the same cortical thickness measure from the lh-rh registered
>> >> > hemispheres of each subject.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Regards,
>> >> > Gabriel
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > El 25/03/13, *Douglas N Greve *  
>> escribió:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 03/25/2013 10:52 AM, Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla wrote:
>> >> >> >Thanks a lot for your answer,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >I'm sending you attached the diff of the two mris_preproc.
>> >> >> Those differences are just added features and won't change your
>> >> results.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >When I wrote CT, I was meaning cortical thickness, as normally 
>> this
>> >> >> values are in surf/?h.thickness, But how do I know the
>> >> >> Xhemi-registered thickness values of each subject for lh-rh, or 
>> area
>> >> >> or any of those indices?
>> >> >> I'm not sure what you mean. When you run mris_preproc, you specify
>> >> >> whether you want thickness, etc.
>> >> >> doug
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Regards,
>> >> >> >Gabriel
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >El 25/03/13, *Douglas N Greve *  
>> escribió:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>On 03/22/2013 06:45 AM, Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla wrote:
>> >> >> >>> Dear Doug,
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> I've seen that you restore the files to download, for the Xhemi
>> >> >> >>> registration. While I'm checking for the statistical 
>> process, I've
>> >> >> >>> seen that the one I have is: Date: 2012/12/06 16:06:52, 
>> Revision:
>> >> >> >>> 1.59.2.4, and the one that is on your ftp server is Date:
>> >> 2012/12/06
>> >> >> >>> 16:06:17, Revision: 1.66, So mine is a lower version but
>> >> recent hour,
>> >> >> >>> and the actual is newer version but seems that was created
>> >> before the
>> >> >> >>> one I have. My question is, Which one should I keep?
>> >> >> >>Can you send me a diff of the two files?
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>  If I change the mris_precproc version. Shall I re-run this 
>> step
>> >> >> >>> before statistical analyses, to create a new
>> >> >> lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.mgh?
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> On the other hand I have some doubts about the statistical
>> >> procedure.
>> >> >> >>> It's supposed that if I apply the Xhemi registration, as
>> >> result the
>> >> >> >>> left and right hemispheres are equals to each other on every
>> >> >> subject, so:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> A) Where can I get the CT values after the Xhemi 
>> registration to
>> >> >> >>> FSaverage_sym for the left and right hemispheres?
>> >> >> >>what are CT values?
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> B) Given that I have two groups, Patients and Contr

Re: [Freesurfer] Xhemi stat questions

2013-03-27 Thread Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla
That makes much more sense than the thing I was looking for.Now I have a problem reading the lh.lh-rh.thickness.mgh with the load_mgh.m function, as I have no idea of how to read it to get the vertex by vertex thickness value of each subject.I tryed as [thick, ~,~,~]=load_mgh('file.mgh',[],[1:nSubjs])then reading: subjIDthick=thick(vtxID,1,1,subjID);where vtxID es the vertex of the .label file I want, and subjID is the number of the subject.is that correct?All this is because I will use it as a covariate in the statistical analysis as suggested in http://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg27129.htmlRegards,Gabriel.El 26/03/13, Douglas N Greve   escribió:Unless you specifically need them for an individual, you should get them from lh.lh-rh.thickness.mgh because that data is sampled onto the symmetric template and so should be unbiased (ie, it will not systematically favor lh or rh).dougOn 03/26/2013 12:40 PM, Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla wrote:> Dear Doug,>> I meant of a given subject,>> But, As I'm thinking about this, I'm wondering if it has sense to have > left and right cortical thickness of my every individual subjects, or > if I should obtain the lh-rh thickness differences for the individuals?>> I suppose that I should read the lh.lh-rh.thickness.mgh created by > mris_preproc to get the average differences in lh-rh hemispheres. Regards,> Gabriel> El 25/03/13, *Douglas N Greve *  escribió: Do you mean you want the right hemi thicknesses on the left hemisphere>> of a given subject or on the fsaverage_sym?>> doug>> On 03/25/2013 11:25 AM, Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla wrote:>> > Thank you, so I'm keeping the one I had.>> >>> > Sorry for my bad explanation. When I do a normal cortical thickness>> > study, I know the average thickness for a label, e.g. cortex, and the>> > values at each vertex of each hemisphere are stored in>> > $subject/surf/?l.thickness. I would like to know if it is possible to>> > obtain the same cortical thickness measure from the lh-rh registered>> > hemispheres of each subject.>> >>> >>> > Regards,>> > Gabriel>> >>> >>> > El 25/03/13, *Douglas N Greve *  escribió:>>  >> On 03/25/2013 10:52 AM, Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla wrote:>> >> >Thanks a lot for your answer,>> >> >>> >> >I'm sending you attached the diff of the two mris_preproc.>> >> Those differences are just added features and won't change your >> results.>> >> >>> >> >When I wrote CT, I was meaning cortical thickness, as normally this>> >> values are in surf/?h.thickness, But how do I know the>> >> Xhemi-registered thickness values of each subject for lh-rh, or area>> >> or any of those indices?>> >> I'm not sure what you mean. When you run mris_preproc, you specify>> >> whether you want thickness, etc.>> >> doug>> >> >>> >> >Regards,>> >> >Gabriel>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >El 25/03/13, *Douglas N Greve *  escribió:>> >>  >> >>On 03/22/2013 06:45 AM, Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla wrote:>> >> >>> Dear Doug,>> >> > >> >>> I've seen that you restore the files to download, for the Xhemi>> >> >>> registration. While I'm checking for the statistical process, I've>> >> >>> seen that the one I have is: Date: 2012/12/06 16:06:52, Revision:>> >> >>> 1.59.2.4, and the one that is on your ftp server is Date: >> 2012/12/06>> >> >>> 16:06:17, Revision: 1.66, So mine is a lower version but >> recent hour,>> >> >>> and the actual is newer version but seems that was created >> before the>> >> >>> one I have. My question is, Which one should I keep?>> >> >>Can you send me a diff of the two files?>> >> > >> >>>  If I change the mris_precproc version. Shall I re-run this step>> >> >>> before statistical analyses, to create a new>> >> lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.mgh?>> >> > >> >>> On the other hand I have some doubts about the statistical >> procedure.>> >> >>> It's supposed that if I apply the Xhemi registration, as >> result the>> >> >>> left and right hemispheres are equals to each other on every>> >> subject, so:>> >> > >> >>> A) Where can I get the CT values after the Xhemi registration to>> >> >>> FSaverage_sym for the left and right hemispheres?>> >> >>what are CT values?>> >> > >> > >> >>> B) Given that I have two groups, Patients and Control, with two>> >> levels>> >> >>> each, i.e male-female (Gp1male Gp1female Gp2male Gp2female>> >> >>> Gp1maleVar1 Gp1femaleVar1 Grp2maleVar1 Grp2femaleVar1), and that>> >> I can>> >> >>> set the contrasts and fsgd files as with a normal CT analisis, but>> >> >>> only on my lh.lh-rh.thickness.smXX.mgh, wich is suppose to>> >> contain the>> >> >>> left-right differences across subjects, right?>> >> > >> >>> Wich would be the right interpretation? of:>> >> >>The interpretation does not really change because it is a xhemi>> >> analysis>> >> > >> >>> 1) 5 .5 -.5 -.5 0 0 0 0>> >> >>Is the L-R difference between Grp1 and Grp2 different than 0>> >> (regressing>> >> >>out Var1 and gender)>> >> > >> >>> 2) 5 -.5 .5 -.5 0 0 0 0>> >> >>Is the L-R diffe

Re: [Freesurfer] Xhemi stat questions

2013-03-26 Thread Douglas N Greve
Unless you specifically need them for an individual, you should get them 
from lh.lh-rh.thickness.mgh because that data is sampled onto the 
symmetric template and so should be unbiased (ie, it will not 
systematically favor lh or rh).
doug


On 03/26/2013 12:40 PM, Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla wrote:
> Dear Doug,
>
> I meant of a given subject,
>
> But, As I'm thinking about this, I'm wondering if it has sense to have 
> left and right cortical thickness of my every individual subjects, or 
> if I should obtain the lh-rh thickness differences for the individuals?
>
> I suppose that I should read the lh.lh-rh.thickness.mgh created by 
> mris_preproc to get the average differences in lh-rh hemispheres.
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Gabriel
>
>
>
>
> El 25/03/13, *Douglas N Greve *  escribió:
>>
>> Do you mean you want the right hemi thicknesses on the left hemisphere
>> of a given subject or on the fsaverage_sym?
>> doug
>>
>>
>> On 03/25/2013 11:25 AM, Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla wrote:
>> > Thank you, so I'm keeping the one I had.
>> >
>> > Sorry for my bad explanation. When I do a normal cortical thickness
>> > study, I know the average thickness for a label, e.g. cortex, and the
>> > values at each vertex of each hemisphere are stored in
>> > $subject/surf/?l.thickness. I would like to know if it is possible to
>> > obtain the same cortical thickness measure from the lh-rh registered
>> > hemispheres of each subject.
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Gabriel
>> >
>> >
>> > El 25/03/13, *Douglas N Greve *  escribió:
>> >>
>> >> On 03/25/2013 10:52 AM, Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla wrote:
>> >> >Thanks a lot for your answer,
>> >> >
>> >> >I'm sending you attached the diff of the two mris_preproc.
>> >> Those differences are just added features and won't change your 
>> results.
>> >> >
>> >> >When I wrote CT, I was meaning cortical thickness, as normally this
>> >> values are in surf/?h.thickness, But how do I know the
>> >> Xhemi-registered thickness values of each subject for lh-rh, or area
>> >> or any of those indices?
>> >> I'm not sure what you mean. When you run mris_preproc, you specify
>> >> whether you want thickness, etc.
>> >> doug
>> >> >
>> >> >Regards,
>> >> >Gabriel
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >El 25/03/13, *Douglas N Greve *  escribió:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>On 03/22/2013 06:45 AM, Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla wrote:
>> >> >>> Dear Doug,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I've seen that you restore the files to download, for the Xhemi
>> >> >>> registration. While I'm checking for the statistical process, I've
>> >> >>> seen that the one I have is: Date: 2012/12/06 16:06:52, Revision:
>> >> >>> 1.59.2.4, and the one that is on your ftp server is Date: 
>> 2012/12/06
>> >> >>> 16:06:17, Revision: 1.66, So mine is a lower version but 
>> recent hour,
>> >> >>> and the actual is newer version but seems that was created 
>> before the
>> >> >>> one I have. My question is, Which one should I keep?
>> >> >>Can you send me a diff of the two files?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>  If I change the mris_precproc version. Shall I re-run this step
>> >> >>> before statistical analyses, to create a new
>> >> lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.mgh?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On the other hand I have some doubts about the statistical 
>> procedure.
>> >> >>> It's supposed that if I apply the Xhemi registration, as 
>> result the
>> >> >>> left and right hemispheres are equals to each other on every
>> >> subject, so:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> A) Where can I get the CT values after the Xhemi registration to
>> >> >>> FSaverage_sym for the left and right hemispheres?
>> >> >>what are CT values?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> B) Given that I have two groups, Patients and Control, with two
>> >> levels
>> >> >>> each, i.e male-female (Gp1male Gp1female Gp2male Gp2female
>> >> >>> Gp1maleVar1 Gp1femaleVar1 Grp2maleVar1 Grp2femaleVar1), and that
>> >> I can
>> >> >>> set the contrasts and fsgd files as with a normal CT analisis, but
>> >> >>> only on my lh.lh-rh.thickness.smXX.mgh, wich is suppose to
>> >> contain the
>> >> >>> left-right differences across subjects, right?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Wich would be the right interpretation? of:
>> >> >>The interpretation does not really change because it is a xhemi
>> >> analysis
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> 1) 5 .5 -.5 -.5 0 0 0 0
>> >> >>Is the L-R difference between Grp1 and Grp2 different than 0
>> >> (regressing
>> >> >>out Var1 and gender)
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> 2) 5 -.5 .5 -.5 0 0 0 0
>> >> >>Is the L-R difference between Males and Females different than 0
>> >> >>(regressing out Var1 and Group)
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> 3) 0 0 0 0 .5 .5 -.5 -.5
>> >> >>Does the slope of the L-R difference with Var1 differ between 
>> Grp1 and
>> >> >>Grp2(regressing out gender)
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> 4) 0 0 0 0 5 -.5 .5 -.5
>> >> >>Does the slope of the L-R difference with Var1 differ between 
>> Male and
>> >> >>Female(regressing out group)
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Many thanks in advanced.
>> >> >>> Gabriel.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>--
>> >> >>Douglas N. 

Re: [Freesurfer] Xhemi stat questions

2013-03-26 Thread Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla
Dear Doug,I meant of a given subject, But, As I'm thinking about this, I'm wondering if 
it has sense to have left and right cortical thickness of my every individual subjects, or if I should obtain the lh-rh thickness differences for the individuals?I suppose that I should read the lh.lh-rh.thickness.mgh created by mris_preproc to get the average differences in lh-rh hemispheres. Regards,GabrielEl 25/03/13, Douglas N Greve   escribió:Do you mean you want the right hemi thicknesses on the left hemisphere of a given subject or on the fsaverage_sym?dougOn 03/25/2013 11:25 AM, Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla wrote:> Thank you, so I'm keeping the one I had.>> Sorry for my bad explanation. When I do a normal cortical thickness > study, I know the average thickness for a label, e.g. cortex, and the > values at each vertex of each hemisphere are stored in > $subject/surf/?l.thickness. I would like to know if it is possible to > obtain the same cortical thickness measure from the lh-rh registered > hemispheres of each subject.>>> Regards,> Gabriel>>> El 25/03/13, *Douglas N Greve *  escribió: On 03/25/2013 10:52 AM, Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla wrote:>> >Thanks a lot for your answer,>> >>> >I'm sending you attached the diff of the two mris_preproc.>> Those differences are just added features and won't change your results.>> >>> >When I wrote CT, I was meaning cortical thickness, as normally this >> values are in surf/?h.thickness, But how do I know the >> Xhemi-registered thickness values of each subject for lh-rh, or area >> or any of those indices?>> I'm not sure what you mean. When you run mris_preproc, you specify >> whether you want thickness, etc.>> doug>> >>> >Regards,>> >Gabriel>> >>> >>> >El 25/03/13, *Douglas N Greve *  escribió:>>  >>On 03/22/2013 06:45 AM, Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla wrote:>> >>> Dear Doug,>> > >>> I've seen that you restore the files to download, for the Xhemi>> >>> registration. While I'm checking for the statistical process, I've>> >>> seen that the one I have is: Date: 2012/12/06 16:06:52, Revision:>> >>> 1.59.2.4, and the one that is on your ftp server is Date: 2012/12/06>> >>> 16:06:17, Revision: 1.66, So mine is a lower version but recent hour,>> >>> and the actual is newer version but seems that was created before the>> >>> one I have. My question is, Which one should I keep?>> >>Can you send me a diff of the two files?>> > >>>  If I change the mris_precproc version. Shall I re-run this step>> >>> before statistical analyses, to create a new >> lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.mgh?>> > >>> On the other hand I have some doubts about the statistical procedure.>> >>> It's supposed that if I apply the Xhemi registration, as result the>> >>> left and right hemispheres are equals to each other on every >> subject, so:>> > >>> A) Where can I get the CT values after the Xhemi registration to>> >>> FSaverage_sym for the left and right hemispheres?>> >>what are CT values?>> > > >>> B) Given that I have two groups, Patients and Control, with two >> levels>> >>> each, i.e male-female (Gp1male  Gp1female Gp2male Gp2female>> >>> Gp1maleVar1 Gp1femaleVar1 Grp2maleVar1 Grp2femaleVar1), and that >> I can>> >>> set the contrasts and fsgd files as with a normal CT analisis, but>> >>> only on my lh.lh-rh.thickness.smXX.mgh, wich is suppose to >> contain the>> >>> left-right differences across subjects, right?>> > >>> Wich would be the right interpretation? of:>> >>The interpretation does not really change because it is a xhemi >> analysis>> > >>> 1) 5 .5 -.5 -.5 0 0 0 0>> >>Is the L-R difference between Grp1 and Grp2 different than 0 >> (regressing>> >>out Var1 and gender)>> > >>> 2) 5 -.5 .5 -.5 0 0 0 0>> >>Is the L-R difference between Males and Females different than 0>> >>(regressing out Var1 and Group)>> > >>> 3) 0 0 0 0 .5 .5 -.5 -.5>> >>Does the slope of the L-R difference with Var1 differ between Grp1 and>> >>Grp2(regressing out gender)>> > >>> 4) 0 0 0 0 5 -.5 .5 -.5>> >>Does the slope of the L-R difference with Var1 differ between Male and>> >>Female(regressing out group)>> >  > > > >>> Many thanks in advanced.>> >>> Gabriel.>>  >>-->> >>Douglas N. Greve, Ph.D.>> >>MGH-NMR Center>> >>gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> >>Phone Number: 617-724-2358>> >>Fax: 617-726-7422>>  >>Bugs: surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting>> >>FileDrop: www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/facility/filedrop/index.html>> >>Outgoing: >> ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/>>  >>___>> >>Freesurfer mailing list>> >>Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> >>https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer>>   >>The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to >> whom it is>> >>addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and >> the e-mail>> >>contains patient information, please contact the Partners >> Compliance HelpLine at>> >>http://www.partn

Re: [Freesurfer] Xhemi stat questions

2013-03-25 Thread Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla
I mean of a given subject, I suppose that on the fsaverage_sym, I would read the lh.lh-rh.thickness.mgh. But, As I'm thinking about this, I'm wondering if it has sense, or if I should obtain the lh-rh thickness differences? Nevertheless, I have no idea how to get any of those measurements.Regards,GabrielEl 25/03/13, Douglas N Greve   escribió:Do you mean you want the right hemi thicknesses on the left hemisphere of a given subject or on the fsaverage_sym?dougOn 03/25/2013 11:25 AM, Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla wrote:> Thank you, so I'm keeping the one I had.>> Sorry for my bad explanation. When I do a normal cortical thickness > study, I know the average thickness for a label, e.g. cortex, and the > values at each vertex of each hemisphere are stored in > $subject/surf/?l.thickness. I would like to know if it is possible to > obtain the same cortical thickness measure from the lh-rh registered > hemispheres of each subject.>>> Regards,> Gabriel>>> El 25/03/13, *Douglas N Greve *  escribió: On 03/25/2013 10:52 AM, Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla wrote:>> >Thanks a lot for your answer,>> >>> >I'm sending you attached the diff of the two mris_preproc.>> Those differences are just added features and won't change your results.>> >>> >When I wrote CT, I was meaning cortical thickness, as normally this >> values are in surf/?h.thickness, But how do I know the >> Xhemi-registered thickness values of each subject for lh-rh, or area >> or any of those indices?>> I'm not sure what you mean. When you run mris_preproc, you specify >> whether you want thickness, etc.>> doug>> >>> >Regards,>> >Gabriel>> >>> >>> >El 25/03/13, *Douglas N Greve *  escribió:>>  >>On 03/22/2013 06:45 AM, Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla wrote:>> >>> Dear Doug,>> > >>> I've seen that you restore the files to download, for the Xhemi>> >>> registration. While I'm checking for the statistical process, I've>> >>> seen that the one I have is: Date: 2012/12/06 16:06:52, Revision:>> >>> 1.59.2.4, and the one that is on your ftp server is Date: 2012/12/06>> >>> 16:06:17, Revision: 1.66, So mine is a lower version but recent hour,>> >>> and the actual is newer version but seems that was created before the>> >>> one I have. My question is, Which one should I keep?>> >>Can you send me a diff of the two files?>> > >>>  If I change the mris_precproc version. Shall I re-run this step>> >>> before statistical analyses, to create a new >> lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.mgh?>> > >>> On the other hand I have some doubts about the statistical procedure.>> >>> It's supposed that if I apply the Xhemi registration, as result the>> >>> left and right hemispheres are equals to each other on every >> subject, so:>> > >>> A) Where can I get the CT values after the Xhemi registration to>> >>> FSaverage_sym for the left and right hemispheres?>> >>what are CT values?>> > > >>> B) Given that I have two groups, Patients and Control, with two >> levels>> >>> each, i.e male-female (Gp1male  Gp1female Gp2male Gp2female>> >>> Gp1maleVar1 Gp1femaleVar1 Grp2maleVar1 Grp2femaleVar1), and that >> I can>> >>> set the contrasts and fsgd files as with a normal CT analisis, but>> >>> only on my lh.lh-rh.thickness.smXX.mgh, wich is suppose to >> contain the>> >>> left-right differences across subjects, right?>> > >>> Wich would be the right interpretation? of:>> >>The interpretation does not really change because it is a xhemi >> analysis>> > >>> 1) 5 .5 -.5 -.5 0 0 0 0>> >>Is the L-R difference between Grp1 and Grp2 different than 0 >> (regressing>> >>out Var1 and gender)>> > >>> 2) 5 -.5 .5 -.5 0 0 0 0>> >>Is the L-R difference between Males and Females different than 0>> >>(regressing out Var1 and Group)>> > >>> 3) 0 0 0 0 .5 .5 -.5 -.5>> >>Does the slope of the L-R difference with Var1 differ between Grp1 and>> >>Grp2(regressing out gender)>> > >>> 4) 0 0 0 0 5 -.5 .5 -.5>> >>Does the slope of the L-R difference with Var1 differ between Male and>> >>Female(regressing out group)>> >  > > > >>> Many thanks in advanced.>> >>> Gabriel.>>  >>-->> >>Douglas N. Greve, Ph.D.>> >>MGH-NMR Center>> >>gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> >>Phone Number: 617-724-2358>> >>Fax: 617-726-7422>>  >>Bugs: surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting>> >>FileDrop: www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/facility/filedrop/index.html>> >>Outgoing: >> ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/>>  >>___>> >>Freesurfer mailing list>> >>Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> >>https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer>>   >>The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to >> whom it is>> >>addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and >> the e-mail>> >>contains patient information, please contact the Partners >> Compliance HelpLine at>> >>http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to >> you in error>> >>but does not contain pa

Re: [Freesurfer] Xhemi stat questions

2013-03-25 Thread Douglas N Greve

Do you mean you want the right hemi thicknesses on the left hemisphere 
of a given subject or on the fsaverage_sym?
doug


On 03/25/2013 11:25 AM, Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla wrote:
> Thank you, so I'm keeping the one I had.
>
> Sorry for my bad explanation. When I do a normal cortical thickness 
> study, I know the average thickness for a label, e.g. cortex, and the 
> values at each vertex of each hemisphere are stored in 
> $subject/surf/?l.thickness. I would like to know if it is possible to 
> obtain the same cortical thickness measure from the lh-rh registered 
> hemispheres of each subject.
>
>
> Regards,
> Gabriel
>
>
> El 25/03/13, *Douglas N Greve *  escribió:
>>
>> On 03/25/2013 10:52 AM, Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla wrote:
>> >Thanks a lot for your answer,
>> >
>> >I'm sending you attached the diff of the two mris_preproc.
>> Those differences are just added features and won't change your results.
>> >
>> >When I wrote CT, I was meaning cortical thickness, as normally this 
>> values are in surf/?h.thickness, But how do I know the 
>> Xhemi-registered thickness values of each subject for lh-rh, or area 
>> or any of those indices?
>> I'm not sure what you mean. When you run mris_preproc, you specify 
>> whether you want thickness, etc.
>> doug
>> >
>> >Regards,
>> >Gabriel
>> >
>> >
>> >El 25/03/13, *Douglas N Greve *  escribió:
>> >>
>> >>On 03/22/2013 06:45 AM, Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla wrote:
>> >>> Dear Doug,
>> >>>
>> >>> I've seen that you restore the files to download, for the Xhemi
>> >>> registration. While I'm checking for the statistical process, I've
>> >>> seen that the one I have is: Date: 2012/12/06 16:06:52, Revision:
>> >>> 1.59.2.4, and the one that is on your ftp server is Date: 2012/12/06
>> >>> 16:06:17, Revision: 1.66, So mine is a lower version but recent hour,
>> >>> and the actual is newer version but seems that was created before the
>> >>> one I have. My question is, Which one should I keep?
>> >>Can you send me a diff of the two files?
>> >>>
>> >>>  If I change the mris_precproc version. Shall I re-run this step
>> >>> before statistical analyses, to create a new 
>> lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.mgh?
>> >>>
>> >>> On the other hand I have some doubts about the statistical procedure.
>> >>> It's supposed that if I apply the Xhemi registration, as result the
>> >>> left and right hemispheres are equals to each other on every 
>> subject, so:
>> >>>
>> >>> A) Where can I get the CT values after the Xhemi registration to
>> >>> FSaverage_sym for the left and right hemispheres?
>> >>what are CT values?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> B) Given that I have two groups, Patients and Control, with two 
>> levels
>> >>> each, i.e male-female (Gp1male  Gp1female Gp2male Gp2female
>> >>> Gp1maleVar1 Gp1femaleVar1 Grp2maleVar1 Grp2femaleVar1), and that 
>> I can
>> >>> set the contrasts and fsgd files as with a normal CT analisis, but
>> >>> only on my lh.lh-rh.thickness.smXX.mgh, wich is suppose to 
>> contain the
>> >>> left-right differences across subjects, right?
>> >>>
>> >>> Wich would be the right interpretation? of:
>> >>The interpretation does not really change because it is a xhemi 
>> analysis
>> >>>
>> >>> 1) 5 .5 -.5 -.5 0 0 0 0
>> >>Is the L-R difference between Grp1 and Grp2 different than 0 
>> (regressing
>> >>out Var1 and gender)
>> >>>
>> >>> 2) 5 -.5 .5 -.5 0 0 0 0
>> >>Is the L-R difference between Males and Females different than 0
>> >>(regressing out Var1 and Group)
>> >>>
>> >>> 3) 0 0 0 0 .5 .5 -.5 -.5
>> >>Does the slope of the L-R difference with Var1 differ between Grp1 and
>> >>Grp2(regressing out gender)
>> >>>
>> >>> 4) 0 0 0 0 5 -.5 .5 -.5
>> >>Does the slope of the L-R difference with Var1 differ between Male and
>> >>Female(regressing out group)
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Many thanks in advanced.
>> >>> Gabriel.
>> >>
>> >>--
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Re: [Freesurfer] Xhemi stat questions

2013-03-25 Thread Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla
Thank you, so I'm keeping the one I had.Sorry for my bad explanation. When I do a normal cortical thickness study, I know the average thickness for a label, e.g. cortex, and the values at each vertex of each hemisphere are stored in $subject/surf/?l.thickness. I would like to know if it is possible to obtain the same cortical thickness measure from the lh-rh registered hemispheres of each subject.Regards,GabrielEl 25/03/13, Douglas N Greve   escribió:On 03/25/2013 10:52 AM, Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla wrote:>Thanks a lot for your answer,>>I'm sending you attached the diff of the two mris_preproc.Those differences are just added features and won't change your results.>>When I wrote CT, I was meaning cortical thickness, as normally this values are in surf/?h.thickness, But how do I know the Xhemi-registered thickness values of each subject for lh-rh, or area or any of those indices?I'm not sure what you mean. When you run mris_preproc, you specify whether you want thickness, etc.doug>>Regards,>Gabriel>>>El 25/03/13, *Douglas N Greve *  escribió:On 03/22/2013 06:45 AM, Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla wrote:>>> Dear Doug,>> I've seen that you restore the files to download, for the Xhemi>>> registration. While I'm checking for the statistical process, I've>>> seen that the one I have is: Date: 2012/12/06 16:06:52, Revision:>>> 1.59.2.4, and the one that is on your ftp server is Date: 2012/12/06>>> 16:06:17, Revision: 1.66, So mine is a lower version but recent hour,>>> and the actual is newer version but seems that was created before the>>> one I have. My question is, Which one should I keep?>>Can you send me a diff of the two files?>>  If I change the mris_precproc version. Shall I re-run this step>>> before statistical analyses, to create a new lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.mgh?>> On the other hand I have some doubts about the statistical procedure.>>> It's supposed that if I apply the Xhemi registration, as result the>>> left and right hemispheres are equals to each other on every subject, so:>> A) Where can I get the CT values after the Xhemi registration to>>> FSaverage_sym for the left and right hemispheres?>>what are CT values?> B) Given that I have two groups, Patients and Control, with two levels>>> each, i.e male-female (Gp1male  Gp1female Gp2male Gp2female>>> Gp1maleVar1 Gp1femaleVar1 Grp2maleVar1 Grp2femaleVar1), and that I can>>> set the contrasts and fsgd files as with a normal CT analisis, but>>> only on my lh.lh-rh.thickness.smXX.mgh, wich is suppose to contain the>>> left-right differences across subjects, right?>> Wich would be the right interpretation? of:>>The interpretation does not really change because it is a xhemi analysis>> 1) 5 .5 -.5 -.5 0 0 0 0>>Is the L-R difference between Grp1 and Grp2 different than 0 (regressing>>out Var1 and gender)>> 2) 5 -.5 .5 -.5 0 0 0 0>>Is the L-R difference between Males and Females different than 0>>(regressing out Var1 and Group)>> 3) 0 0 0 0 .5 .5 -.5 -.5>>Does the slope of the L-R difference with Var1 differ between Grp1 and>>Grp2(regressing out gender)>> 4) 0 0 0 0 5 -.5 .5 -.5>>Does the slope of the L-R difference with Var1 differ between Male and>>Female(regressing out group)> Many thanks in advanced.>>> Gabriel.-- >>Douglas N. Greve, Ph.D.>>MGH-NMR Center>>gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>>Phone Number: 617-724-2358>>Fax: 617-726-7422Bugs: surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting>>FileDrop: www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/facility/filedrop/index.html>>Outgoing: ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/___>>Freesurfer mailing list>>Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>>https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer>>The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is>>addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail>>contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at>>http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error>>but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly>>dispose of the e-mail.-- >-->PhD. student Gabriel González-Escamilla>Laboratory of Functional Neuroscience>Department of Physiology, Anatomy, and Cell Biology>University Pablo de Olavide>Ctra. de Utrera, Km.1>41013 - Seville>- Spain ->>Email: ggon...@upo.es>http://www.upo.es/neuroaging/es/ -- Douglas N. Greve, Ph.D.MGH-NMR Centergr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.eduPhone Number: 617-724-2358Fax: 617-726-7422Bugs: surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReportingFileDrop: www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/facility/filedrop/index.htmlOutgoing: ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/-- --PhD. student Gabriel González-EscamillaLaboratory of Functional NeuroscienceDepartment of Physiology, Anatomy, and Cell BiologyUniversity Pablo de OlavideCtra. de Utrera, Km.141013

Re: [Freesurfer] Xhemi stat questions

2013-03-25 Thread Douglas N Greve

On 03/25/2013 10:52 AM, Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla wrote:
> Thanks a lot for your answer,
>
> I'm sending you attached the diff of the two mris_preproc.
Those differences are just added features and won't change your results.
>
> When I wrote CT, I was meaning cortical thickness, as normally this 
> values are in surf/?h.thickness, But how do I know the 
> Xhemi-registered thickness values of each subject for lh-rh, or area 
> or any of those indices?
I'm not sure what you mean. When you run mris_preproc, you specify 
whether you want thickness, etc.
doug
>
> Regards,
> Gabriel
>
>
> El 25/03/13, *Douglas N Greve *  escribió:
>>
>> On 03/22/2013 06:45 AM, Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla wrote:
>> > Dear Doug,
>> >
>> > I've seen that you restore the files to download, for the Xhemi
>> > registration. While I'm checking for the statistical process, I've
>> > seen that the one I have is: Date: 2012/12/06 16:06:52, Revision:
>> > 1.59.2.4, and the one that is on your ftp server is Date: 2012/12/06
>> > 16:06:17, Revision: 1.66, So mine is a lower version but recent hour,
>> > and the actual is newer version but seems that was created before the
>> > one I have. My question is, Which one should I keep?
>> Can you send me a diff of the two files?
>> >
>> >  If I change the mris_precproc version. Shall I re-run this step
>> > before statistical analyses, to create a new 
>> lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.mgh?
>> >
>> > On the other hand I have some doubts about the statistical procedure.
>> > It's supposed that if I apply the Xhemi registration, as result the
>> > left and right hemispheres are equals to each other on every 
>> subject, so:
>> >
>> > A) Where can I get the CT values after the Xhemi registration to
>> > FSaverage_sym for the left and right hemispheres?
>> what are CT values?
>> >
>> >
>> > B) Given that I have two groups, Patients and Control, with two levels
>> > each, i.e male-female (Gp1male  Gp1female Gp2male Gp2female
>> > Gp1maleVar1 Gp1femaleVar1 Grp2maleVar1 Grp2femaleVar1), and that I can
>> > set the contrasts and fsgd files as with a normal CT analisis, but
>> > only on my lh.lh-rh.thickness.smXX.mgh, wich is suppose to contain the
>> > left-right differences across subjects, right?
>> >
>> > Wich would be the right interpretation? of:
>> The interpretation does not really change because it is a xhemi analysis
>> >
>> > 1) 5 .5 -.5 -.5 0 0 0 0
>> Is the L-R difference between Grp1 and Grp2 different than 0 (regressing
>> out Var1 and gender)
>> >
>> > 2) 5 -.5 .5 -.5 0 0 0 0
>> Is the L-R difference between Males and Females different than 0
>> (regressing out Var1 and Group)
>> >
>> > 3) 0 0 0 0 .5 .5 -.5 -.5
>> Does the slope of the L-R difference with Var1 differ between Grp1 and
>> Grp2(regressing out gender)
>> >
>> > 4) 0 0 0 0 5 -.5 .5 -.5
>> Does the slope of the L-R difference with Var1 differ between Male and
>> Female(regressing out group)
>> >
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Many thanks in advanced.
>> > Gabriel.
>>
>> -- 
>> Douglas N. Greve, Ph.D.
>> MGH-NMR Center
>> gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>> Phone Number: 617-724-2358
>> Fax: 617-726-7422
>>
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Re: [Freesurfer] Xhemi stat questions

2013-03-25 Thread Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla
Thanks a lot for your answer,I'm sending you attached the diff of the two mris_preproc.When I wrote CT, I was meaning cortical thickness, as normally this values are in surf/?h.thickness, But how do I know the Xhemi-registered thickness values of each subject for lh-rh, or area or any of those indices?Regards,GabrielEl 25/03/13, Douglas N Greve   escribió:On 03/22/2013 06:45 AM, Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla wrote:> Dear Doug,>> I've seen that you restore the files to download, for the Xhemi > registration. While I'm checking for the statistical process, I've > seen that the one I have is: Date: 2012/12/06 16:06:52, Revision: > 1.59.2.4, and the one that is on your ftp server is Date: 2012/12/06 > 16:06:17, Revision: 1.66, So mine is a lower version but recent hour, > and the actual is newer version but seems that was created before the > one I have. My question is, Which one should I keep?Can you send me a diff of the two files?>>  If I change the mris_precproc version. Shall I re-run this step > before statistical analyses, to create a new lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.mgh?>> On the other hand I have some doubts about the statistical procedure. > It's supposed that if I apply the Xhemi registration, as result the > left and right hemispheres are equals to each other on every subject, so:>> A) Where can I get the CT values after the Xhemi registration to > FSaverage_sym for the left and right hemispheres?what are CT values?>>> B) Given that I have two groups, Patients and Control, with two levels > each, i.e male-female (Gp1male  Gp1female Gp2male Gp2female > Gp1maleVar1 Gp1femaleVar1 Grp2maleVar1 Grp2femaleVar1), and that I can > set the contrasts and fsgd files as with a normal CT analisis, but > only on my lh.lh-rh.thickness.smXX.mgh, wich is suppose to contain the > left-right differences across subjects, right?>> Wich would be the right interpretation? of:The interpretation does not really change because it is a xhemi analysis>> 1) 5 .5 -.5 -.5 0 0 0 0Is the L-R difference between Grp1 and Grp2 different than 0 (regressing out Var1 and gender)>> 2) 5 -.5 .5 -.5 0 0 0 0Is the L-R difference between Males and Females different than 0 (regressing out Var1 and Group)>> 3) 0 0 0 0 .5 .5 -.5 -.5Does the slope of the L-R difference with Var1 differ between Grp1 and Grp2(regressing out gender)>> 4) 0 0 0 0 5 -.5 .5 -.5Does the slope of the L-R difference with Var1 differ between Male and Female(regressing out group)> Many thanks in advanced.> Gabriel.-- Douglas N. Greve, Ph.D.MGH-NMR Centergr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.eduPhone Number: 617-724-2358Fax: 617-726-7422Bugs: surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReportingFileDrop: www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/facility/filedrop/index.htmlOutgoing: ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/___Freesurfer mailing listFreesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.eduhttps://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurferThe information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it isaddressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mailcontains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine athttp://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in errorbut does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properlydispose of the e-mail.-- --PhD. student Gabriel González-EscamillaLaboratory of Functional NeuroscienceDepartment of Physiology, Anatomy, and Cell BiologyUniversity Pablo de OlavideCtra. de Utrera, Km.141013 - Seville- Spain -Email: ggon...@upo.eshttp://www.upo.es/neuroaging/es/

/root/trabajo/freesurfer/bin/mris_preproc_old
/root/trabajo/freesurfer/bin/mris_preproc
14,15c14,15
< #$Date: 2012/12/06 16:06:52 $
< #$Revision: 1.59.2.4 $
---
> #$Date: 2012/12/06 16:06:17 $
> #$Revision: 1.66 $
32c32
< set VERSION = '$Id: mris_preproc,v 1.59.2.4 2012/12/06 16:06:52 mreuter Exp 
$';
---
> set VERSION = '$Id: mris_preproc,v 1.66 2012/12/06 16:06:17 mreuter Exp $';
77a78
> set DoXHemiOnly = 0; # do not include the non-xhemi
445a447,453
> case "--tal-xyz":
>   if($#argv < 1) goto arg1err;
>   set svalsurf = $argv[1]; shift;
>   set sval = tal-xyz
>   set srcsurf = 1;
>   breaksw
>
679a688,692
> case "--xhemi-only":
>   set DoXHemi = 1;
>   set DoXHemiOnly = 1;
>   breaksw
>
923,924c936,941
< if($srchemi == lh) set tmplist = ($tmplist $subj $subj/xhemi)
< if($srchemi == rh) set tmplist = ($tmplist $subj/xhemi $subj)
---
> if($DoXHemiOnly) then
>   set tmplist = ($tmplist $subj/xhemi)
> else
>   if($srchemi == lh) set tmplist = ($tmplist $subj $subj/xhemi)
>   if($srchemi == rh) set tmplist = ($tmplist $subj/xhemi $subj)
> endif
1017a1035
>   echo "  --tal-xyz surfname : output xyz in mni305 for each subject"
1109c1127
< --area surfname
---
> --tal-xyz surfname
,1112c1129,1131
< Extract vertex area from subject/surf/hemi.surfname to u

Re: [Freesurfer] Xhemi stat questions

2013-03-25 Thread Douglas N Greve

On 03/22/2013 06:45 AM, Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla wrote:
> Dear Doug,
>
> I've seen that you restore the files to download, for the Xhemi 
> registration. While I'm checking for the statistical process, I've 
> seen that the one I have is: Date: 2012/12/06 16:06:52, Revision: 
> 1.59.2.4, and the one that is on your ftp server is Date: 2012/12/06 
> 16:06:17, Revision: 1.66, So mine is a lower version but recent hour, 
> and the actual is newer version but seems that was created before the 
> one I have. My question is, Which one should I keep?
Can you send me a diff of the two files?
>
>  If I change the mris_precproc version. Shall I re-run this step 
> before statistical analyses, to create a new lh.lh-rh.thickness.sm00.mgh?
>
> On the other hand I have some doubts about the statistical procedure. 
> It's supposed that if I apply the Xhemi registration, as result the 
> left and right hemispheres are equals to each other on every subject, so:
>
> A) Where can I get the CT values after the Xhemi registration to 
> FSaverage_sym for the left and right hemispheres?
what are CT values?
>
>
> B) Given that I have two groups, Patients and Control, with two levels 
> each, i.e male-female (Gp1male  Gp1female Gp2male Gp2female 
> Gp1maleVar1 Gp1femaleVar1 Grp2maleVar1 Grp2femaleVar1), and that I can 
> set the contrasts and fsgd files as with a normal CT analisis, but 
> only on my lh.lh-rh.thickness.smXX.mgh, wich is suppose to contain the 
> left-right differences across subjects, right?
>
> Wich would be the right interpretation? of:
The interpretation does not really change because it is a xhemi analysis
>
> 1) 5 .5 -.5 -.5 0 0 0 0
Is the L-R difference between Grp1 and Grp2 different than 0 (regressing 
out Var1 and gender)
>
> 2) 5 -.5 .5 -.5 0 0 0 0
Is the L-R difference between Males and Females different than 0 
(regressing out Var1 and Group)
>
> 3) 0 0 0 0 .5 .5 -.5 -.5
Does the slope of the L-R difference with Var1 differ between Grp1 and 
Grp2(regressing out gender)
>
> 4) 0 0 0 0 5 -.5 .5 -.5
Does the slope of the L-R difference with Var1 differ between Male and 
Female(regressing out group)
>

>
>
>
> Many thanks in advanced.
> Gabriel.

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