Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS in Amazon EC2 for production?

2009-05-28 Thread Michael Giagnocavo 
Yea, is anyone using VMware or Xen type deployments with heavy media or 
transcoding?

-Michael

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freeswitch-users-boun...@lists.freeswitch.org wrote:
> Virtualization has issues with timing in my experiance.

I also experimetned timing issues with virtualization.
Since everybody in the world speaks a lot good of virtualization I
sometime think I'm the only one thinking wrong about it.
I once read this http://www.vmware.com/pdf/vmware_timekeeping.pdf but I
did not understood if it was a temporary problem to be solved in later
linux kernels or something here to stay.

Ciao,
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Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS in Amazon EC2 for production?

2009-05-28 Thread Cavalera Claudio Luigi 
freeswitch-users-boun...@lists.freeswitch.org wrote:
> Virtualization has issues with timing in my experiance.

I also experimetned timing issues with virtualization.
Since everybody in the world speaks a lot good of virtualization I
sometime think I'm the only one thinking wrong about it.
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Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS in Amazon EC2 for production?

2009-05-27 Thread Raffaele P. Guidi 
Well actually I have an average 15 telemarketers running on a small (650
euros) server with the same load (an average 1%). Of course availability and
scalability are on a different level but it's no easy to build a case -
which is the more cost effective scenario with this and a growing (50+
operators) load? Things to think about.
Regards,
   Raffaele

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 18:18, Erik Wickstrom wrote:

> It's been under pretty light use.  About 20 users.  A bunch of DIDs coming
> in and some outbound campaigns.  A couple hundred calls a day. (we also did
> a test for an outbound campaign with 8 telemarketers making 1000s of calls
> in a day -- worked great!)
>
> The AMI is based on Ubuntu 8.04.  We're using the smallest instance at this
> point, so it's $70/mo + bandwidth/storage ~~ maybe $80/mo.
>
> The loadavg is always at 0.00.
>
> Erik
>
>
> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 7:15 AM, Raffaele P. Guidi <
> raffaele.p.gu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Wow, that's cool. Can you give us some figures? How many users/calls per
>> day, what is the AMI setup, an average cost per month? Do you think it would
>> be a feasible solution for a call center?
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 18:21, Erik Wickstrom wrote:
>>
>>> I've been running a production FS app on EC2 since December.  It's been
>>> really stable.  Same server/instance since day1.  We've haven't had any
>>> complaints
>>>
>>> Erik
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 8:11 AM, Kristian Kielhofner <
>>> kristian.kielhof...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Brian West 
 wrote:
 > Not with FreeSWITCH in our testing.  Now if you have stupid defaults
 > in your virtualization env. it might act funny but I have run FS on
 > EC2 without a problem.
 >
 > /b

 Hey Brian,

  FreeSWITCH in EC2 is a bit of a mystery to me...

  Call me old fashioned but in my mind VoIP and geography are linked
 in %99 of scenarios.  Having VoIP services in a pure "cloud"
 environment just doesn't sound like a good idea to me.

  Consider a "hosted" environment with clients registered to a
 FreeSWITCH server.  One day your instance is physically running on
 hardware in Seattle.  The next day it could (potentially) be running
 in Chicago.  That's obviously a very different routing path for your
 clients.  Even /if/ Amazon (or whomever) employs every routing/network
 trick in the book you still won't be able to get over that change in
 geography.

  It's certainly possible a change like this may very well never
 happen in practice.  I wouldn't know; I've never used EC2 and I don't
 even know that much about it.  I'm just curious how well strictly,
 practically speaking this will work in the long term.

 --
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Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS in Amazon EC2 for production?

2009-05-27 Thread Erik Wickstrom 
It's been under pretty light use.  About 20 users.  A bunch of DIDs coming
in and some outbound campaigns.  A couple hundred calls a day. (we also did
a test for an outbound campaign with 8 telemarketers making 1000s of calls
in a day -- worked great!)

The AMI is based on Ubuntu 8.04.  We're using the smallest instance at this
point, so it's $70/mo + bandwidth/storage ~~ maybe $80/mo.

The loadavg is always at 0.00.

Erik

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 7:15 AM, Raffaele P. Guidi <
raffaele.p.gu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Wow, that's cool. Can you give us some figures? How many users/calls per
> day, what is the AMI setup, an average cost per month? Do you think it would
> be a feasible solution for a call center?
>
>
> On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 18:21, Erik Wickstrom wrote:
>
>> I've been running a production FS app on EC2 since December.  It's been
>> really stable.  Same server/instance since day1.  We've haven't had any
>> complaints
>>
>> Erik
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 8:11 AM, Kristian Kielhofner <
>> kristian.kielhof...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Brian West 
>>> wrote:
>>> > Not with FreeSWITCH in our testing.  Now if you have stupid defaults
>>> > in your virtualization env. it might act funny but I have run FS on
>>> > EC2 without a problem.
>>> >
>>> > /b
>>>
>>> Hey Brian,
>>>
>>>  FreeSWITCH in EC2 is a bit of a mystery to me...
>>>
>>>  Call me old fashioned but in my mind VoIP and geography are linked
>>> in %99 of scenarios.  Having VoIP services in a pure "cloud"
>>> environment just doesn't sound like a good idea to me.
>>>
>>>  Consider a "hosted" environment with clients registered to a
>>> FreeSWITCH server.  One day your instance is physically running on
>>> hardware in Seattle.  The next day it could (potentially) be running
>>> in Chicago.  That's obviously a very different routing path for your
>>> clients.  Even /if/ Amazon (or whomever) employs every routing/network
>>> trick in the book you still won't be able to get over that change in
>>> geography.
>>>
>>>  It's certainly possible a change like this may very well never
>>> happen in practice.  I wouldn't know; I've never used EC2 and I don't
>>> even know that much about it.  I'm just curious how well strictly,
>>> practically speaking this will work in the long term.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kristian Kielhofner
>>> http://www.astlinux.org
>>> http://blog.krisk.org
>>> http://www.star2star.com
>>> http://www.submityoursip.com
>>> http://www.voalte.com
>>>
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Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS in Amazon EC2 for production?

2009-05-27 Thread Gregory Boehnlein 
Still here.. working.. making a living.. you know the drill. Not sure about
ClueCon this year.. I've curtailed a lot of my traveling and talking this
year as I've been doing a lot more consulting work. I'll look into it.. I
may be able to drive up if I can spare the time..

 

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Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:11 AM
To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org
Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS in Amazon EC2 for production?

 

Hey Damin!

Glad to see you are still out there in the shadows.
You coming back to ClueCon this year? 



On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Gregory Boehnlein  wrote:

I can say, from having met with and talked to the CEO and founder of
Applogic that these guys are really revolutionary in their approach to cloud
computing. I spoke on a panel w/ the founder at an ISPcon several years ago,
and their approach is that of a utility company, treating computing
resources like that of a  power company. Cool stuff!

 

From: freeswitch-users-boun...@lists.freeswitch.org
[mailto:freeswitch-users-boun...@lists.freeswitch.org] On Behalf Of Chris
Danielson
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 11:39 AM
To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org
Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS in Amazon EC2 for production?

 

There is a cloud computing company named 3Tera (AppLogic) that does have an
international presence and will keep your FreeSWITCH instance running on a
dedicated server using Xen and HA.  I spoke with one of their senior
engineers about 1 month ago in regards to actually setting up an LCR
scenario using their servers located in Europe and the United States.  These
guys are a little different in the cloud computing world and I believe
closer fit the needs of a telephony application.  As-is, there are companies
using 3tera for their Asterisk installs.  So if you want cloud computing
with dedicated hardware resources and a set geographic location, then these
guys do it.  Kind of the best of both worlds.  Just a quick 2 cents...

Regards,
Chris


Brian West wrote: 

 

On May 26, 2009, at 10:11 AM, Kristian Kielhofner wrote:

 

Hey Brian,

 FreeSWITCH in EC2 is a bit of a mystery to me...

 Call me old fashioned but in my mind VoIP and geography are linked
in %99 of scenarios.  Having VoIP services in a pure "cloud"
environment just doesn't sound like a good idea to me.

 Consider a "hosted" environment with clients registered to a
FreeSWITCH server.  One day your instance is physically running on
hardware in Seattle.  The next day it could (potentially) be running
in Chicago.  That's obviously a very different routing path for your
clients.  Even /if/ Amazon (or whomever) employs every routing/network
trick in the book you still won't be able to get over that change in
geography.

 

For some people this isn't a huge difference... now if it were to swap
continents then yes it would be a problem.  But I haven't seen Amazon do
this but I haven't left the instances up long enough to see.

 

 It's certainly possible a change like this may very well never
happen in practice.  I wouldn't know; I've never used EC2 and I don't
even know that much about it.  I'm just curious how well strictly,
practically speaking this will work in the long term.

 

There are other companies that do this stuff but personally me... I want my
stuff running on real hardware.

 

Brian West

br...@freeswitch.org

 

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Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS in Amazon EC2 for production?

2009-05-27 Thread Raffaele P. Guidi 
Wow, that's cool. Can you give us some figures? How many users/calls per
day, what is the AMI setup, an average cost per month? Do you think it would
be a feasible solution for a call center?

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 18:21, Erik Wickstrom wrote:

> I've been running a production FS app on EC2 since December.  It's been
> really stable.  Same server/instance since day1.  We've haven't had any
> complaints
>
> Erik
>
>
> On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 8:11 AM, Kristian Kielhofner <
> kristian.kielhof...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Brian West 
>> wrote:
>> > Not with FreeSWITCH in our testing.  Now if you have stupid defaults
>> > in your virtualization env. it might act funny but I have run FS on
>> > EC2 without a problem.
>> >
>> > /b
>>
>> Hey Brian,
>>
>>  FreeSWITCH in EC2 is a bit of a mystery to me...
>>
>>  Call me old fashioned but in my mind VoIP and geography are linked
>> in %99 of scenarios.  Having VoIP services in a pure "cloud"
>> environment just doesn't sound like a good idea to me.
>>
>>  Consider a "hosted" environment with clients registered to a
>> FreeSWITCH server.  One day your instance is physically running on
>> hardware in Seattle.  The next day it could (potentially) be running
>> in Chicago.  That's obviously a very different routing path for your
>> clients.  Even /if/ Amazon (or whomever) employs every routing/network
>> trick in the book you still won't be able to get over that change in
>> geography.
>>
>>  It's certainly possible a change like this may very well never
>> happen in practice.  I wouldn't know; I've never used EC2 and I don't
>> even know that much about it.  I'm just curious how well strictly,
>> practically speaking this will work in the long term.
>>
>> --
>> Kristian Kielhofner
>> http://www.astlinux.org
>> http://blog.krisk.org
>> http://www.star2star.com
>> http://www.submityoursip.com
>> http://www.voalte.com
>>
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Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS in Amazon EC2 for production?

2009-05-27 Thread Anthony Minessale 
Hey Damin!

Glad to see you are still out there in the shadows.
You coming back to ClueCon this year?


On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Gregory Boehnlein  wrote:

>  I can say, from having met with and talked to the CEO and founder of
> Applogic that these guys are really revolutionary in their approach to cloud
> computing. I spoke on a panel w/ the founder at an ISPcon several years ago,
> and their approach is that of a utility company, treating computing
> resources like that of a  power company. Cool stuff!
>
>
>
> *From:* freeswitch-users-boun...@lists.freeswitch.org [mailto:
> freeswitch-users-boun...@lists.freeswitch.org] *On Behalf Of *Chris
> Danielson
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2009 11:39 AM
> *To:* freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS in Amazon EC2 for production?
>
>
>
> There is a cloud computing company named 3Tera (AppLogic) that does have an
> international presence and will keep your FreeSWITCH instance running on a
> dedicated server using Xen and HA.  I spoke with one of their senior
> engineers about 1 month ago in regards to actually setting up an LCR
> scenario using their servers located in Europe and the United States.  These
> guys are a little different in the cloud computing world and I believe
> closer fit the needs of a telephony application.  As-is, there are companies
> using 3tera for their Asterisk installs.  So if you want cloud computing
> with dedicated hardware resources and a set geographic location, then these
> guys do it.  Kind of the best of both worlds.  Just a quick 2 cents...
>
> Regards,
> Chris
>
>
> Brian West wrote:
>
>
>
> On May 26, 2009, at 10:11 AM, Kristian Kielhofner wrote:
>
>
>
>  Hey Brian,
>
>  FreeSWITCH in EC2 is a bit of a mystery to me...
>
>  Call me old fashioned but in my mind VoIP and geography are linked
> in %99 of scenarios.  Having VoIP services in a pure "cloud"
> environment just doesn't sound like a good idea to me.
>
>  Consider a "hosted" environment with clients registered to a
> FreeSWITCH server.  One day your instance is physically running on
> hardware in Seattle.  The next day it could (potentially) be running
> in Chicago.  That's obviously a very different routing path for your
> clients.  Even /if/ Amazon (or whomever) employs every routing/network
> trick in the book you still won't be able to get over that change in
> geography.
>
>
>
> For some people this isn't a huge difference... now if it were to swap
> continents then yes it would be a problem.  But I haven't seen Amazon do
> this but I haven't left the instances up long enough to see.
>
>
>
>  It's certainly possible a change like this may very well never
> happen in practice.  I wouldn't know; I've never used EC2 and I don't
> even know that much about it.  I'm just curious how well strictly,
> practically speaking this will work in the long term.
>
>
>
> There are other companies that do this stuff but personally me... I want my
> stuff running on real hardware.
>
>
>
> Brian West
>
> br...@freeswitch.org
>
>
>
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Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS in Amazon EC2 for production?

2009-05-26 Thread Gregory Boehnlein 
I can say, from having met with and talked to the CEO and founder of
Applogic that these guys are really revolutionary in their approach to cloud
computing. I spoke on a panel w/ the founder at an ISPcon several years ago,
and their approach is that of a utility company, treating computing
resources like that of a  power company. Cool stuff!

 

From: freeswitch-users-boun...@lists.freeswitch.org
[mailto:freeswitch-users-boun...@lists.freeswitch.org] On Behalf Of Chris
Danielson
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 11:39 AM
To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org
Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS in Amazon EC2 for production?

 

There is a cloud computing company named 3Tera (AppLogic) that does have an
international presence and will keep your FreeSWITCH instance running on a
dedicated server using Xen and HA.  I spoke with one of their senior
engineers about 1 month ago in regards to actually setting up an LCR
scenario using their servers located in Europe and the United States.  These
guys are a little different in the cloud computing world and I believe
closer fit the needs of a telephony application.  As-is, there are companies
using 3tera for their Asterisk installs.  So if you want cloud computing
with dedicated hardware resources and a set geographic location, then these
guys do it.  Kind of the best of both worlds.  Just a quick 2 cents...

Regards,
Chris


Brian West wrote: 

 

On May 26, 2009, at 10:11 AM, Kristian Kielhofner wrote:





Hey Brian,

 FreeSWITCH in EC2 is a bit of a mystery to me...

 Call me old fashioned but in my mind VoIP and geography are linked
in %99 of scenarios.  Having VoIP services in a pure "cloud"
environment just doesn't sound like a good idea to me.

 Consider a "hosted" environment with clients registered to a
FreeSWITCH server.  One day your instance is physically running on
hardware in Seattle.  The next day it could (potentially) be running
in Chicago.  That's obviously a very different routing path for your
clients.  Even /if/ Amazon (or whomever) employs every routing/network
trick in the book you still won't be able to get over that change in
geography.



 

For some people this isn't a huge difference... now if it were to swap
continents then yes it would be a problem.  But I haven't seen Amazon do
this but I haven't left the instances up long enough to see.

 

 It's certainly possible a change like this may very well never
happen in practice.  I wouldn't know; I've never used EC2 and I don't
even know that much about it.  I'm just curious how well strictly,
practically speaking this will work in the long term.



 

There are other companies that do this stuff but personally me... I want my
stuff running on real hardware.

 

Brian West

br...@freeswitch.org

 

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Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS in Amazon EC2 for production?

2009-05-26 Thread Brian West 
Not with FreeSWITCH in our testing.  Now if you have stupid defaults  
in your virtualization env. it might act funny but I have run FS on  
EC2 without a problem.

/b

On May 26, 2009, at 1:05 AM, John Nicholson wrote:

> Virtualization has issues with timing in my experiance.
>
> Sent from my iPhone


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Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS in Amazon EC2 for production?

2009-05-26 Thread Erik Wickstrom 
I've been running a production FS app on EC2 since December.  It's been
really stable.  Same server/instance since day1.  We've haven't had any
complaints

Erik

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 8:11 AM, Kristian Kielhofner <
kristian.kielhof...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Brian West  wrote:
> > Not with FreeSWITCH in our testing.  Now if you have stupid defaults
> > in your virtualization env. it might act funny but I have run FS on
> > EC2 without a problem.
> >
> > /b
>
> Hey Brian,
>
>  FreeSWITCH in EC2 is a bit of a mystery to me...
>
>  Call me old fashioned but in my mind VoIP and geography are linked
> in %99 of scenarios.  Having VoIP services in a pure "cloud"
> environment just doesn't sound like a good idea to me.
>
>  Consider a "hosted" environment with clients registered to a
> FreeSWITCH server.  One day your instance is physically running on
> hardware in Seattle.  The next day it could (potentially) be running
> in Chicago.  That's obviously a very different routing path for your
> clients.  Even /if/ Amazon (or whomever) employs every routing/network
> trick in the book you still won't be able to get over that change in
> geography.
>
>  It's certainly possible a change like this may very well never
> happen in practice.  I wouldn't know; I've never used EC2 and I don't
> even know that much about it.  I'm just curious how well strictly,
> practically speaking this will work in the long term.
>
> --
> Kristian Kielhofner
> http://www.astlinux.org
> http://blog.krisk.org
> http://www.star2star.com
> http://www.submityoursip.com
> http://www.voalte.com
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Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS in Amazon EC2 for production?

2009-05-26 Thread Brian West 


On May 26, 2009, at 10:11 AM, Kristian Kielhofner wrote:


Hey Brian,

 FreeSWITCH in EC2 is a bit of a mystery to me...

 Call me old fashioned but in my mind VoIP and geography are linked
in %99 of scenarios.  Having VoIP services in a pure "cloud"
environment just doesn't sound like a good idea to me.

 Consider a "hosted" environment with clients registered to a
FreeSWITCH server.  One day your instance is physically running on
hardware in Seattle.  The next day it could (potentially) be running
in Chicago.  That's obviously a very different routing path for your
clients.  Even /if/ Amazon (or whomever) employs every routing/network
trick in the book you still won't be able to get over that change in
geography.


For some people this isn't a huge difference... now if it were to swap  
continents then yes it would be a problem.  But I haven't seen Amazon  
do this but I haven't left the instances up long enough to see.



 It's certainly possible a change like this may very well never
happen in practice.  I wouldn't know; I've never used EC2 and I don't
even know that much about it.  I'm just curious how well strictly,
practically speaking this will work in the long term.


There are other companies that do this stuff but personally me... I  
want my stuff running on real hardware.


Brian West
br...@freeswitch.org

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Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS in Amazon EC2 for production?

2009-05-26 Thread Kristian Kielhofner 
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Brian West  wrote:
> Not with FreeSWITCH in our testing.  Now if you have stupid defaults
> in your virtualization env. it might act funny but I have run FS on
> EC2 without a problem.
>
> /b

Hey Brian,

  FreeSWITCH in EC2 is a bit of a mystery to me...

  Call me old fashioned but in my mind VoIP and geography are linked
in %99 of scenarios.  Having VoIP services in a pure "cloud"
environment just doesn't sound like a good idea to me.

  Consider a "hosted" environment with clients registered to a
FreeSWITCH server.  One day your instance is physically running on
hardware in Seattle.  The next day it could (potentially) be running
in Chicago.  That's obviously a very different routing path for your
clients.  Even /if/ Amazon (or whomever) employs every routing/network
trick in the book you still won't be able to get over that change in
geography.

  It's certainly possible a change like this may very well never
happen in practice.  I wouldn't know; I've never used EC2 and I don't
even know that much about it.  I'm just curious how well strictly,
practically speaking this will work in the long term.

-- 
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http://www.astlinux.org
http://blog.krisk.org
http://www.star2star.com
http://www.submityoursip.com
http://www.voalte.com

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Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS in Amazon EC2 for production?

2009-05-26 Thread Chris Danielson 
There is a cloud computing company named 3Tera (AppLogic) that does have 
an international presence and will keep your FreeSWITCH instance running 
on a dedicated server using Xen and HA.  I spoke with one of their 
senior engineers about 1 month ago in regards to actually setting up an 
LCR scenario using their servers located in Europe and the United 
States.  These guys are a little different in the cloud computing world 
and I believe closer fit the needs of a telephony application.  As-is, 
there are companies using 3tera for their Asterisk installs.  So if you 
want cloud computing with dedicated hardware resources and a set 
geographic location, then these guys do it.  Kind of the best of both 
worlds.  Just a quick 2 cents...


Regards,
Chris


Brian West wrote:


On May 26, 2009, at 10:11 AM, Kristian Kielhofner wrote:


Hey Brian,

 FreeSWITCH in EC2 is a bit of a mystery to me...

 Call me old fashioned but in my mind VoIP and geography are linked
in %99 of scenarios.  Having VoIP services in a pure "cloud"
environment just doesn't sound like a good idea to me.

 Consider a "hosted" environment with clients registered to a
FreeSWITCH server.  One day your instance is physically running on
hardware in Seattle.  The next day it could (potentially) be running
in Chicago.  That's obviously a very different routing path for your
clients.  Even /if/ Amazon (or whomever) employs every routing/network
trick in the book you still won't be able to get over that change in
geography.


For some people this isn't a huge difference... now if it were to swap 
continents then yes it would be a problem.  But I haven't seen Amazon 
do this but I haven't left the instances up long enough to see.



 It's certainly possible a change like this may very well never
happen in practice.  I wouldn't know; I've never used EC2 and I don't
even know that much about it.  I'm just curious how well strictly,
practically speaking this will work in the long term.


There are other companies that do this stuff but personally me... I 
want my stuff running on real hardware.


Brian West
br...@freeswitch.org 

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Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS in Amazon EC2 for production?

2009-05-25 Thread John Nicholson 
Virtualization has issues with timing in my experiance.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 25, 2009, at 6:43 PM, Peter P GMX  wrote:

> We have used FS on ec2 for testing purposes only. It was ok. We havn't
> done any performance test though.
>
> Best regards
> Peter
>
> Ing. Edwin Villarreal schrieb:
>>
>> Hello my friends.
>>
>>
>>
>> Has anyone used the EC2 for production?  Tests?
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m wondering if it would be “better” to have a FS system in  
>> the cloud
>> for carrier-to-carrier connections.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any ideas will be appreciated
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks 2 u all
>>
>>
>>
>> *Edwin Villarreal*
>>
>> World Net Commerce SA CV
>>
>> WNC Telecom
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS in Amazon EC2 for production?

2009-05-25 Thread Peter P GMX 
We have used FS on ec2 for testing purposes only. It was ok. We havn't
done any performance test though.

Best regards
Peter

Ing. Edwin Villarreal schrieb:
>
> Hello my friends.
>
>  
>
> Has anyone used the EC2 for production?  Tests?
>
>  
>
> I’m wondering if it would be “better” to have a FS system in the cloud
> for carrier-to-carrier connections.
>
>  
>
> Any ideas will be appreciated
>
>  
>
> Thanks 2 u all
>
>  
>
> *Edwin Villarreal*
>
> World Net Commerce SA CV
>
> WNC Telecom
>
>  
>
> 
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