Re: [Freevo-users] freevo cache --thumbnail in Debian?

2008-07-04 Thread Michael Brown
Philip Tuckey  free.fr> writes:

{SNIP}

> Actually I realised the conclusion might not be certain. The problem I 
> raised occurs when a user who is not "freevo" but who is a member of 
> the "freevo" group runs freevo (actually the Debian freevo wrapper 
> script). It will not happen if the user freevo runs freevo, or if a 
> different user who is not in the freevo group runs freevo. (This has to do 
> with the way the Debian package implements freevo file sharing among users 
> in the freevo group.)
> 
> So could you please confirm whether you were running freevo as user freevo, 
> and if not, whether the user was in the freevo group?

Yes, I'm running Freevo as 'freevo'.  I added 'freevo' to the users group, and
deleted the freevo group for various reasons.  

~$ groups freevo
users cdrom audio video plugdev

yappy:/var/lib# ls -la freevo
total 556
drwxr-xr-x  7 freevo users   4096 Jun  4 00:32 .
drwxr-xr-x 84 root   root4096 Jul  1 06:52 ..
-rw-r--r--  1 freevo users  0 Jun 23 15:17 .placeholder
drwxrwxr-x  4 freevo users   4096 Jul  4 22:59 cache

> I tried to run the Debian 1.8.1 (and 1.7.something) packages on a current 
> ubuntu (8.04). (I had to update pycentral using the Debian package, but 
> otherwise I installed only Ubuntu supporting packages.) However I found 
> that freevo crashed silently during initialisation. Another user reported 
> this problem a couple of weeks ago, without mentioning a solution:
> 
>
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=485235BF.8060600%40ayeon.org&forum_name=freevo-users
> 
> Did you run into this problem and fix it, or just didn't meet it? (I ended 
> up installing freevo from source (1.8.1).)

My boxes went from full Fiesty to full Gutsy, and that was painful enough for an
HTPC appliance.  This time, I just manually changed the repositories to Hardy
and upgraded only what I had to (used some Debian packages to do it, including
debs for Freevo 1.8.1).  So, it mostly works and I'm not getting the silent
death the other poster had, but my boxes won't execute the shutdown properly. 
Freevo dies with traceback on the system exit function, and I have to manually
shutdown with the acpi power button.  I'll remedy it when I rebuild as Debian.
 
> Thanks
> Philip

No Problem!  Hope it helps!

/Mike


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[Freevo-users] Freevo 1.8 - why does it need to poll anyway?

2008-07-04 Thread Omry Yadan
What exactly is freevo doing that requires constant polling?

why does it need to do it while playing a video?


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Re: [Freevo-users] Freevo 1.8 CPU usage

2008-07-04 Thread Omry Yadan
nope, 720p runs smoothly (actually - even without coreavc).


Steven Blatchford wrote:
> Om, do you have any issues with 720p video in freevo?  Neither of my
> cores exceed 65% when playing a 720p file using freevo but there is
> slight pausing.  As I said earlier, when I run the idenitcal command
> from the cli the video plays smooth.
>
> I can try a 1080p video tonight and report back.  My guess is the
> problem I see with 720p will now be more exaggerated.
>
> -steve
>
>
> On 11:16 Fri 04 Jul, Omry Yadan wrote:
>   
>> Alberto Hernando wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> El Viernes, 4 de Julio de 2008 09:27, Omry Yadan escribi?:
>>>   
>>>   
 Debian Lenny, kernel 2.6.24.
 I compiled mplayer with the default compilation options (from svn, about
 a month ago), after applying the coreavc patch.

 I got a few other things running there, including Azureus that could be
 blamed, however, I noticed running mplayer from the command line is
 enough to the video playback run smoothly.

 other combinations like turning off everything I can and running through
 freevo did not produce smooth playback.
 
 
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> It's very hard for me to believe that azureus+mplayer works well, but 
>>> freevo+mplayer doesn't. Perhaps there is some problem about how freevo 
>>> calls 
>>> mplayer. Could you post the full command used by freevo when you run the 
>>> videos? You can see it in the logs. And also, the command you use to run 
>>> mplayer from the command line.
>>>   
>>>   
>> This is the command  freevo uses:
>> /usr/local/bin/mplayer -slave -autosync 100 -nolirc -nojoystick -autoq 
>> 100 -screenw 1920 -screenh 1080 -fs -ao alsa -v -
>> vo xv,sdl,x11, -font /usr/share/freevo/fonts/arial.ttf -subfont-encoding 
>> ISO8859-8 
>> //storage/video/movies/Resident.Evil.Extinction.2007.1080p.BluRay.DTS.x264-hV.mkv
>>  
>> -vf pp=de
>>
>> Initially I just used mplayer 
>> Resident.Evil.Extinction.2007.1080p.BluRay.DTS.x264-hV.mkv
>> but I some more testing now:
>> I tried the exact same mplayer command from the shell, without freevo 
>> running.
>> result: smooth playback.
>>
>> I tried the exact same mplayer command from the shell, this time with 
>> freevo running (but I used the command line to start mpayer)
>> result: some small freezes.
>>
>> all this with azureus turned off.
>> I did this several times to be sure and I have no doubt:
>> when freevo is running, mplayer performance degrades on my system when 
>> playing HD files using coreavc.
>>
>>
>>Omry.
>>
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Re: [Freevo-users] Freevo 1.8 CPU usage

2008-07-04 Thread Steven Blatchford
Om, do you have any issues with 720p video in freevo?  Neither of my
cores exceed 65% when playing a 720p file using freevo but there is
slight pausing.  As I said earlier, when I run the idenitcal command
from the cli the video plays smooth.

I can try a 1080p video tonight and report back.  My guess is the
problem I see with 720p will now be more exaggerated.

-steve


On 11:16 Fri 04 Jul, Omry Yadan wrote:
>Alberto Hernando wrote:
>
>> El Viernes, 4 de Julio de 2008 09:27, Omry Yadan escribi?:
>>   
>>> Debian Lenny, kernel 2.6.24.
>>> I compiled mplayer with the default compilation options (from svn, about
>>> a month ago), after applying the coreavc patch.
>>>
>>> I got a few other things running there, including Azureus that could be
>>> blamed, however, I noticed running mplayer from the command line is
>>> enough to the video playback run smoothly.
>>>
>>> other combinations like turning off everything I can and running through
>>> freevo did not produce smooth playback.
>>> 
>>
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> It's very hard for me to believe that azureus+mplayer works well, but 
>> freevo+mplayer doesn't. Perhaps there is some problem about how freevo calls 
>> mplayer. Could you post the full command used by freevo when you run the 
>> videos? You can see it in the logs. And also, the command you use to run 
>> mplayer from the command line.
>>   
>
>This is the command  freevo uses:
>/usr/local/bin/mplayer -slave -autosync 100 -nolirc -nojoystick -autoq 
>100 -screenw 1920 -screenh 1080 -fs -ao alsa -v -
>vo xv,sdl,x11, -font /usr/share/freevo/fonts/arial.ttf -subfont-encoding 
>ISO8859-8 
>//storage/video/movies/Resident.Evil.Extinction.2007.1080p.BluRay.DTS.x264-hV.mkv
> 
>-vf pp=de
>
>Initially I just used mplayer 
>Resident.Evil.Extinction.2007.1080p.BluRay.DTS.x264-hV.mkv
>but I some more testing now:
>I tried the exact same mplayer command from the shell, without freevo 
>running.
>result: smooth playback.
>
>I tried the exact same mplayer command from the shell, this time with 
>freevo running (but I used the command line to start mpayer)
>result: some small freezes.
>
>all this with azureus turned off.
>I did this several times to be sure and I have no doubt:
>when freevo is running, mplayer performance degrades on my system when 
>playing HD files using coreavc.
>
>
>Omry.
>
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Re: [Freevo-users] Freevo 1.8 CPU usage

2008-07-04 Thread Omry Yadan

>> Nope, I was busy looking at the video output looking for freezes.
>> I can tell you that generally while I play an 1080p h264, my system is 
>> at near 100% on both cores,
>> and that I see freevo takes what appears to be 1-2% of one core every 
>> few seconds.
>> 
>
> 1920x1080 h264 is really demanding, and I'm pretty sure you wont see 
> much difference between 720x576 video and 1920x1080. Lots of people 
> encode video at 360x288 and it looks fine. The reason is that out eyes 
> play tricks on us and we simply don't see fine detail.
>
> In other words don't bother with HD it's a bit of a con.
>   

have you ever looked at a movie at 1080p?
watching it with my 1080p projector gives a fantastic image (on an 2.44m 
wide screen).
so. allow me to respectfully disagree :).

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Re: [Freevo-users] Freevo 1.8 CPU usage

2008-07-04 Thread Duncan Webb
Omry Yadan wrote:
> 
> 
>>> I just tried, and I didn't see any noticeable improvement.
>>> the symptoms in my case is that the movie (1920x1080 h264) starts to 
>>> play smooth, but after a minute or two the coreavc codec starts to get 
>>> choked and I begin to see many small freezes.
>>>
>>> My setup is Pentium D 3ghz with GT 8600.
>>> video card is not relevant here because the bottleneck is decoding, and 
>>> since nvidia drivers for linux does not support pure video (hardware 
>>> assisted h264 decoding).
>>>   
>>> 
>> Have you looked at the output of top or htop while running your tests?
>>   
> Nope, I was busy looking at the video output looking for freezes.
> I can tell you that generally while I play an 1080p h264, my system is 
> at near 100% on both cores,
> and that I see freevo takes what appears to be 1-2% of one core every 
> few seconds.

1920x1080 h264 is really demanding, and I'm pretty sure you wont see 
much difference between 720x576 video and 1920x1080. Lots of people 
encode video at 360x288 and it looks fine. The reason is that out eyes 
play tricks on us and we simply don't see fine detail.

In other words don't bother with HD it's a bit of a con.

Duncan

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Re: [Freevo-users] starts as root, not as user

2008-07-04 Thread Duncan Webb
John Molohan wrote:
> Duncan Webb wrote:
>   
>> Jonathan Isom wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 10:17 PM, Elizabeth Dodd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>   
 new install, gentoo 2.6.28-r8, stable
 freevo starts as root
 but not as user
 any ideas?
   
 
>>> Looks like a permission problem.
>>> try changing the permissions of /var/cache/freevo/
>>> chown -R YOURFREEVOUSER:users /var/cache/freevo/
>>> should fix it or set
>>> FREEVO_CACHEDIR
>>> to a different directory
>>> 
>>>   
>> I tend to do this a bit differently:
>> find /var/cache/freevo -type d -exec chmod g+srw {} \;
>> find /var/cache/freevo -type d -exec chgrp users {} \;
>> find /var/cache/freevo -type f -exec chmod g+rw {} \;
>> find /var/cache/freevo -type f -exec chgrp users {} \;
>>
>> or
>>
>> chmod -R g+rw /var/cache/freevo/
>> chgrp -R users /var/cache/freevo/
>> find /var/cache/freevo -type d -exec chmod g+s {} \;
>>
>> Then if different users create new files and directories they should be 
>> accessible and writeable by all members of the group.
>>
>> etc...
>>
>> Duncan
>> 
> Is that little gem in the wiki ;)
>   

Optimist

Well this is basic Linux/Unix permission stuff that really is not Freevo
related. It is difficult to know where to draw the line. We certainly
won't have an explanation of 'ls' in the wiki. I'm not sure about
permission stuff as the original design of freevo is as a stand-a-lone
box where it doesn't matter about permissions.

I'll let the community decide...

Duncan :-)


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Re: [Freevo-users] Can I print harddisk temperature where free disk status is shown ?

2008-07-04 Thread Duncan Webb
Sandip Devnath wrote:
> hddtemp on linux gets these value. I think I want to know my hard disk 
> temperature too since it is very important for me to keep my HDD 
> healthy. If it is getting too much heated up then I would like to get 
> alarm or shut the system down. Recently I have many HDD issue (300gb+ in 
> 2 years) and I end up loosing data. Most of those loss was due to not 
> having good air flow around the hard disk.

Use Chieftech cases, they have a fan mount in front of the hard disks, 
plus the cases are rather robust they tend to be quiet, they are simple 
and logical to build, I like them a lot.

> Can someone point me the python code, where the free space logic is there ?

I'm not sure what you mean. Are you talking about diskfree? Or about 
sensors?

Duncan

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Re: [Freevo-users] Anyone use Direct TV with Freevo?

2008-07-04 Thread Justin Wetherell
While searching online, I have heard many horror stories about
DirecTV. Anyone here have similar stories? (Bad Customer service, bad
reception, crappy HD, etc)

On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Ryan Roth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Adam Charrett wrote:
>> On Thu, July 3, 2008 10:29 pm, Justin Wetherell wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I am considering switching from Cable to Direct TV and I want to weigh
>>> my options. Right now, I have my analog cable directly plugged into my
>>> computer, so I don't need a cable box for my Freevo system. If I
>>> switch to Direct TV, will I need a separate box for my Freevo system?
>>>
>>
>> Definitely, you won't get any programming otherwise. Digital satellite
>> cards won't work as DirecTV uses DSS (not supported under Linux) rather
>> than DVB for transmitting their programming, plus you'll need the smart
>> card.
>>
>>
>>> if yes, I assume i'll need a IR blaster to control it. Any other
>>> opinions? Does anyone have a Direct TV system working with Freevo?
>>>
>>
>> You may not need to use an IR blaster the DTV set tops can be controlled
>> by a serial protocol (google directv serial control), I think someone on
>> this list has done it.
>>
>>
> I used the serial interface to control my DirecTV for years. It works
> well. My best piece of advice is find the fastest baud rate you can
> communicate at and use it. Doing this will allow you to switch channels
> with out any sort of lag.
>> Cheers
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
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Re: [Freevo-users] freevo cache --thumbnail in Debian?

2008-07-04 Thread Philip Tuckey
On Friday 4 July 2008 03:53, Michael Brown wrote:
> Philip Tuckey  free.fr> writes:
>
> {SNIP}
>
> > So the conclusion is that it is working correctly in pure Debian, so I
> > guess my problem is coming from some difference in Ubuntu which breaks
> > the Debian wrapper script.
> >
> > Thanks very much for clearing that up.

Actually I realised the conclusion might not be certain. The problem I 
raised occurs when a user who is not "freevo" but who is a member of 
the "freevo" group runs freevo (actually the Debian freevo wrapper 
script). It will not happen if the user freevo runs freevo, or if a 
different user who is not in the freevo group runs freevo. (This has to do 
with the way the Debian package implements freevo file sharing among users 
in the freevo group.)

So could you please confirm whether you were running freevo as user freevo, 
and if not, whether the user was in the freevo group?

> >
> > Philip
>
> No problem Philip!  I have two kludgy Ubuntu/Freevo frontends running
> the Debian 1.8.1 packages, and there are a few things that don't work
> quite right, due to having to install Debian dependencies of stuff like
> pycentral, pygame, pylirc, etc and it not working properly with the
> Ubuntu packages...  It's one of several reasons why I'm planning on
> rebuilding them as Debian boxes.

I tried to run the Debian 1.8.1 (and 1.7.something) packages on a current 
ubuntu (8.04). (I had to update pycentral using the Debian package, but 
otherwise I installed only Ubuntu supporting packages.) However I found 
that freevo crashed silently during initialisation. Another user reported 
this problem a couple of weeks ago, without mentioning a solution:

http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=485235BF.8060600%40ayeon.org&forum_name=freevo-users

Did you run into this problem and fix it, or just didn't meet it? (I ended 
up installing freevo from source (1.8.1).)

Thanks
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[Freevo-users] how to improve image (photograph) display quality?

2008-07-04 Thread Philip Tuckey
Hi

I find that freevo (1.8.1) displays my photographs with relatively poor  
quality. To specify: freevo is configured to 800x600, I open it in a 
(800x600) window, and navigate to a photo (display within the window, not 
full screen). The image is rather poor quality, rough edges and so on, and 
significantly worse than if I show the same photograph at the same size in 
a standard image display application such as eog just next to the freevo 
window. The photos are jpeg images at 3264x2448 pixels.

Is there a setting I can change to improve the freevo image display 
quality? I have had a look at the config files and the code but haven't 
found anything so far.

Thanks
Philip


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Re: [Freevo-users] Anyone use Direct TV with Freevo?

2008-07-04 Thread Ryan Roth
Adam Charrett wrote:
> On Thu, July 3, 2008 10:29 pm, Justin Wetherell wrote:
>   
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I am considering switching from Cable to Direct TV and I want to weigh
>> my options. Right now, I have my analog cable directly plugged into my
>> computer, so I don't need a cable box for my Freevo system. If I
>> switch to Direct TV, will I need a separate box for my Freevo system?
>> 
>
> Definitely, you won't get any programming otherwise. Digital satellite
> cards won't work as DirecTV uses DSS (not supported under Linux) rather
> than DVB for transmitting their programming, plus you'll need the smart
> card.
>
>   
>> if yes, I assume i'll need a IR blaster to control it. Any other
>> opinions? Does anyone have a Direct TV system working with Freevo?
>> 
>
> You may not need to use an IR blaster the DTV set tops can be controlled
> by a serial protocol (google directv serial control), I think someone on
> this list has done it.
>
>   
I used the serial interface to control my DirecTV for years. It works 
well. My best piece of advice is find the fastest baud rate you can 
communicate at and use it. Doing this will allow you to switch channels 
with out any sort of lag.
> Cheers
>
> Adam
>
>
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Re: [Freevo-users] LCD plugin / toggling screens

2008-07-04 Thread Han Hartgers
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 2:40 AM, Duncan Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Han Hartgers wrote:
>> I am also  digging around in the pylcd.py file, but for an other reason
>>>From LCDd version 0.5 should all the text send to the daemon be in the
>> form of "ISO 8859-1" or Latin-1, and I believe that Freevo is sending
>> the text as Unicode. This goes terribly wrong if you have for instance
>> a Japanese title of a movie.
>
> I would be surprised if freevo was sending Unicode, if it is then it
> would work with Japanese. More likely, there may be a way to change the
> code page of the LCD display. I use the LCDd and it works fine, not seen
> a funny character for ages.
>

To be honest I do not know actually if it is an unicode to Latin-1
conversion problem.
I do get:

"drawtime=1.9
self.conn.write(widget_set tv prog_v 1 2 20 2 m 3 "?"+'
') failed
drawtime=2.0
drawtime=13.2
self.conn.write(widget_set tv prog_v 1 2 20 2 m 3 "??"+'
') failed
drawtime=1.7
self.conn.write(widget_set tv prog_v 1 2 20 2 m 3 ""+'
') failed
drawtime=0.5
self.conn.write(widget_set tv prog_v 1 2 20 2 m 3 "??"+'
') failed"

In my log files and on de console when I brows around in the TV-guide
with Japanese programs. In general I see the last valid text on the
LCD.
My interpretation of the "?" was something wrong with the encoding.
And I assume in pylcd.py.

It is maybe a freevo bug that the system has the tendency to freeze
after too many of the above messages.

Greetings,

Han

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Re: [Freevo-users] Freevo 1.8 CPU usage

2008-07-04 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Fri, 4 Jul 2008, Alberto Hernando wrote:
> Hi.
>
> It's very hard for me to believe that azureus+mplayer works well, but
> freevo+mplayer doesn't. Perhaps there is some problem about how freevo
> calls mplayer. Could you post the full command used by freevo when you run
> the videos? You can see it in the logs. And also, the command you use to
> run mplayer from the command line.
>
> Alberto

I had freevo calling mplayer wrongly once
so freevo called mplayer to make a small picture (cpu usage to resize)
then I told mplayer to play full screen and got dreadful video
as the cpu was making the picture smaller and then larger and just couldn't 
keep up.
The problem is buried in the mail archives.

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Re: [Freevo-users] Freevo 1.8 CPU usage

2008-07-04 Thread Omry Yadan


>> I just tried, and I didn't see any noticeable improvement.
>> the symptoms in my case is that the movie (1920x1080 h264) starts to 
>> play smooth, but after a minute or two the coreavc codec starts to get 
>> choked and I begin to see many small freezes.
>>
>> My setup is Pentium D 3ghz with GT 8600.
>> video card is not relevant here because the bottleneck is decoding, and 
>> since nvidia drivers for linux does not support pure video (hardware 
>> assisted h264 decoding).
>>   
>> 
> Have you looked at the output of top or htop while running your tests?
>   
Nope, I was busy looking at the video output looking for freezes.
I can tell you that generally while I play an 1080p h264, my system is 
at near 100% on both cores,
and that I see freevo takes what appears to be 1-2% of one core every 
few seconds.


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Re: [Freevo-users] Freevo 1.8 CPU usage

2008-07-04 Thread John Molohan
Omry Yadan wrote:
> Steven Blatchford wrote:
>
>   
>> On 22:28 Sun 22 Jun, Omry Yadan wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I recently started to watch full HD H264 videos (1920x1080).
>>> It's really heavy on the CPU, and I had to get coreavc for linux, which 
>>> is an adaptation of coreavc - a windows multi-core decoder for h264 to 
>>> linux.
>>> my problem is that even with that codec, my system is right on the edge 
>>> of properly decoding the video at real time.
>>> I found that if I start mplayer from Freevo (1.8) it doesn't play fast 
>>> enough, but when if I kill freevo and start it from the command line it 
>>> plays fast enough (only if I kill freevo!).
>>>
>>> I noticed freevo uses a small amount of CPU even when mplayer is 
>>> running, which is probably what causing my problem.
>>>
>>> any plans to make freevo consume less cpu when playing a video? 
>>> (suspending threads, stoping timers etc).
>>>
>>> Omry.
>>> 
>>>   
>> Hi Om,
>> Did setting 'POLL_TIME = 0.05' in your local_conf.py fix this for you?
>> I too am using the coreavc video codec on a 1920x1080 display.  My
>> processor is 2.0Ghz duo core.  My video chipset is the Intel Corporation
>> Mobile 945GM/GMS -- in case you were wondering about my setup.
>>
>> When I play a mkv file with freevo I notice slight video tearing and
>> slight blocky video.  Using 'ps ax |grep mplayer' to find the command
>> freevo is using, I play this from the cli and the video is fine.
>>
>> I added the 'POLL_TIME = 0.05' to my local_conf.py, restarted freevo and
>> saw no noticable change.  I also use ffmpeg codec on a 720p x264 with
>> the same result.
>>   
>> 
> I just tried, and I didn't see any noticeable improvement.
> the symptoms in my case is that the movie (1920x1080 h264) starts to 
> play smooth, but after a minute or two the coreavc codec starts to get 
> choked and I begin to see many small freezes.
>
> My setup is Pentium D 3ghz with GT 8600.
> video card is not relevant here because the bottleneck is decoding, and 
> since nvidia drivers for linux does not support pure video (hardware 
> assisted h264 decoding).
>   
Have you looked at the output of top or htop while running your tests?

John

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Re: [Freevo-users] Anyone use Direct TV with Freevo?

2008-07-04 Thread Adam Charrett
On Thu, July 3, 2008 10:29 pm, Justin Wetherell wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I am considering switching from Cable to Direct TV and I want to weigh
> my options. Right now, I have my analog cable directly plugged into my
> computer, so I don't need a cable box for my Freevo system. If I
> switch to Direct TV, will I need a separate box for my Freevo system?

Definitely, you won't get any programming otherwise. Digital satellite
cards won't work as DirecTV uses DSS (not supported under Linux) rather
than DVB for transmitting their programming, plus you'll need the smart
card.

> if yes, I assume i'll need a IR blaster to control it. Any other
> opinions? Does anyone have a Direct TV system working with Freevo?

You may not need to use an IR blaster the DTV set tops can be controlled
by a serial protocol (google directv serial control), I think someone on
this list has done it.

Cheers

Adam



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Re: [Freevo-users] Freevo 1.8 CPU usage

2008-07-04 Thread Omry Yadan
Alberto Hernando wrote:

> El Viernes, 4 de Julio de 2008 09:27, Omry Yadan escribió:
>   
>> Debian Lenny, kernel 2.6.24.
>> I compiled mplayer with the default compilation options (from svn, about
>> a month ago), after applying the coreavc patch.
>>
>> I got a few other things running there, including Azureus that could be
>> blamed, however, I noticed running mplayer from the command line is
>> enough to the video playback run smoothly.
>>
>> other combinations like turning off everything I can and running through
>> freevo did not produce smooth playback.
>> 
>
>
> Hi.
>
> It's very hard for me to believe that azureus+mplayer works well, but 
> freevo+mplayer doesn't. Perhaps there is some problem about how freevo calls 
> mplayer. Could you post the full command used by freevo when you run the 
> videos? You can see it in the logs. And also, the command you use to run 
> mplayer from the command line.
>   

This is the command  freevo uses:
/usr/local/bin/mplayer -slave -autosync 100 -nolirc -nojoystick -autoq 
100 -screenw 1920 -screenh 1080 -fs -ao alsa -v -
vo xv,sdl,x11, -font /usr/share/freevo/fonts/arial.ttf -subfont-encoding 
ISO8859-8 
//storage/video/movies/Resident.Evil.Extinction.2007.1080p.BluRay.DTS.x264-hV.mkv
 
-vf pp=de

Initially I just used mplayer 
Resident.Evil.Extinction.2007.1080p.BluRay.DTS.x264-hV.mkv
but I some more testing now:
I tried the exact same mplayer command from the shell, without freevo 
running.
result: smooth playback.

I tried the exact same mplayer command from the shell, this time with 
freevo running (but I used the command line to start mpayer)
result: some small freezes.

all this with azureus turned off.
I did this several times to be sure and I have no doubt:
when freevo is running, mplayer performance degrades on my system when 
playing HD files using coreavc.


Omry.

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Re: [Freevo-users] Piren install to hard drive

2008-07-04 Thread John Molohan
Michael Brown wrote:
> Davide Lucchesi  lucchesi.eu.org> writes:
>  
>   
>> piren-remaster should be already installed within the live distribution:
>> this means that you can install it directly from the live environment.
>> However, the installation procedure will not produce a running system
>> like the one you can obtain with a regular Debian (or Ubuntu)
>> installation, but the live image will be copied to specified HDD (or
>> USB) partition.
>> 
>
> Davide,
>
> If I might suggest, an "install to HD as Debian" script with a matching
> command.fxd file & Freevo menu option might be in order as a way for people to
> quickly build up a new Freevo box using the Piren distribution.  I've been 
> using
> Debian systems for about 6 years now, and I'm having a hard time wrapping my
> head around the whole piren-remaster thing.  I have two Ubuntu-based HTPC's 
> that
> I want to switch to Debian, and I would like to use Piren to do it, since 
> you've
> done such a nice job of creating an HTPC appliance live-CD (as opposed to my
> kludgy, stripped-down-desktop-OS HTPCs).  My SOHO server/Freevo recordserver 
> is
> already running a mixed Debian stable/unstable distro, and it's generally
> bullet-proof.
>
> In my household, Freevo is rapidly becoming a "critical system", so I've been
> trying to move towards having an "experimental" Freevo running in VMware, 
> where
> I can snapshot, test and re-package .debs as needed to deploy to the
> "production" boxes.  My wife and kids get annoyed with me when an "upgrade" to
> add new features breaks my kludgy Ubuntu boxes ;-)  My stumbling block has 
> been
> trying to install to Hard Disk using Piren, and I've been considering just 
> using
> Debian netboot and build it up from there.
>
> I think the whole Piren concept is a good one, where you can create and
> repackage for live CD/USB stick usage, but I think there's a whole other 
> market
> that wants an installer for a working system that's upgradeable via the 
> standard
> Debian repositories.  Something along the lines of Mythbuntu
> (http://www.mythbuntu.org/), but for Freevo.  I hope you consider adding an
> install to HD as Debian option to the next version of Piren, or at least put 
> up
> a How-to for it on the piren.org website.
>
> Thanks for your work on Piren; as I said earlier, you've done a great job of
> creating an HTPC appliance distro, and it's something I'd really like to be 
> able
> to use.
>
> Cheers!
>
> /Mike
>   
Sounds like a good suggestion. I think the live CDs are really important 
not only as an easy way for new users to try our freevo but they're 
great as a rescue disk or for someone who builds a lot of freevo boxes 
(hey maybe there'll even be a company doing it someday). As Mike said 
keep up the good work.

John

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Re: [Freevo-users] Freevo 1.8 CPU usage

2008-07-04 Thread John Molohan
Alberto Hernando wrote:
> El Viernes, 4 de Julio de 2008 09:27, Omry Yadan escribió:
>   
>> Debian Lenny, kernel 2.6.24.
>> I compiled mplayer with the default compilation options (from svn, about
>> a month ago), after applying the coreavc patch.
>>
>> I got a few other things running there, including Azureus that could be
>> blamed, however, I noticed running mplayer from the command line is
>> enough to the video playback run smoothly.
>>
>> other combinations like turning off everything I can and running through
>> freevo did not produce smooth playback.
>> 
>
>
> Hi.
>
> It's very hard for me to believe that azureus+mplayer works well, but 
> freevo+mplayer doesn't. Perhaps there is some problem about how freevo calls 
> mplayer. Could you post the full command used by freevo when you run the 
> videos? You can see it in the logs. And also, the command you use to run 
> mplayer from the command line.
>
> Alberto
>   
I find it quite easy to believe. I've often seen python (freevo) taking 
up 10% - 20% cpu on an athlon 1.2Ghz while playing video in mplayer or 
xine. Don't know what the solution is though (I haven't tried changing 
the poll timing).

John

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Re: [Freevo-users] Freevo 1.8 CPU usage

2008-07-04 Thread Alberto Hernando
El Viernes, 4 de Julio de 2008 09:27, Omry Yadan escribió:
> Debian Lenny, kernel 2.6.24.
> I compiled mplayer with the default compilation options (from svn, about
> a month ago), after applying the coreavc patch.
>
> I got a few other things running there, including Azureus that could be
> blamed, however, I noticed running mplayer from the command line is
> enough to the video playback run smoothly.
>
> other combinations like turning off everything I can and running through
> freevo did not produce smooth playback.


Hi.

It's very hard for me to believe that azureus+mplayer works well, but 
freevo+mplayer doesn't. Perhaps there is some problem about how freevo calls 
mplayer. Could you post the full command used by freevo when you run the 
videos? You can see it in the logs. And also, the command you use to run 
mplayer from the command line.

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Re: [Freevo-users] Freevo 1.8 CPU usage

2008-07-04 Thread Omry Yadan
Alberto Hernando wrote:

> El Viernes, 4 de Julio de 2008 08:57, Omry Yadan escribió:
>   
>> I tried but it didn't seem to make any difference in video freezes while
>> playing a full HD movie with freevo.
>> 
>
>
> Hi.
>
> Perhaps, rather than optimizing freevo, you could optimize all your system.
> What distro are you using? How do you compile mplayer? What other things are 
> running in the same box? This is important information that you didn't give.
>   
Debian Lenny, kernel 2.6.24.
I compiled mplayer with the default compilation options (from svn, about 
a month ago), after applying the coreavc patch.

I got a few other things running there, including Azureus that could be 
blamed, however, I noticed running mplayer from the command line is 
enough to the video playback run smoothly.

other combinations like turning off everything I can and running through 
freevo did not produce smooth playback.


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Re: [Freevo-users] Freevo 1.8 CPU usage

2008-07-04 Thread Alberto Hernando
El Viernes, 4 de Julio de 2008 08:57, Omry Yadan escribió:
> I tried but it didn't seem to make any difference in video freezes while
> playing a full HD movie with freevo.


Hi.

Perhaps, rather than optimizing freevo, you could optimize all your system.
What distro are you using? How do you compile mplayer? What other things are 
running in the same box? This is important information that you didn't give.

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Re: [Freevo-users] Freevo 1.8 CPU usage

2008-07-04 Thread Omry Yadan
Steven Blatchford wrote:

> On 22:28 Sun 22 Jun, Omry Yadan wrote:
>   
>> Hi all,
>> I recently started to watch full HD H264 videos (1920x1080).
>> It's really heavy on the CPU, and I had to get coreavc for linux, which 
>> is an adaptation of coreavc - a windows multi-core decoder for h264 to 
>> linux.
>> my problem is that even with that codec, my system is right on the edge 
>> of properly decoding the video at real time.
>> I found that if I start mplayer from Freevo (1.8) it doesn't play fast 
>> enough, but when if I kill freevo and start it from the command line it 
>> plays fast enough (only if I kill freevo!).
>>
>> I noticed freevo uses a small amount of CPU even when mplayer is 
>> running, which is probably what causing my problem.
>>
>> any plans to make freevo consume less cpu when playing a video? 
>> (suspending threads, stoping timers etc).
>>
>>  Omry.
>> 
>
> Hi Om,
> Did setting 'POLL_TIME = 0.05' in your local_conf.py fix this for you?
> I too am using the coreavc video codec on a 1920x1080 display.  My
> processor is 2.0Ghz duo core.  My video chipset is the Intel Corporation
> Mobile 945GM/GMS -- in case you were wondering about my setup.
>
> When I play a mkv file with freevo I notice slight video tearing and
> slight blocky video.  Using 'ps ax |grep mplayer' to find the command
> freevo is using, I play this from the cli and the video is fine.
>
> I added the 'POLL_TIME = 0.05' to my local_conf.py, restarted freevo and
> saw no noticable change.  I also use ffmpeg codec on a 720p x264 with
> the same result.
>   
I just tried, and I didn't see any noticeable improvement.
the symptoms in my case is that the movie (1920x1080 h264) starts to 
play smooth, but after a minute or two the coreavc codec starts to get 
choked and I begin to see many small freezes.

My setup is Pentium D 3ghz with GT 8600.
video card is not relevant here because the bottleneck is decoding, and 
since nvidia drivers for linux does not support pure video (hardware 
assisted h264 decoding).

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