Re: [Freevo-users] Help with building freevo-1.8.3
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Steve Pirk or...@pirk.com wrote: Building on a Slackware 12.2 system. Grabbed all of the modules from freevo on sourceforge, gone through all of the module not found - please install errors, but setup.py in freevo still complains about those modules not being there. Modules installed but still are not found by freevo. Any ideas of what I should try next? Do I realy need to grab all of the packages listed at: http://doc.freevo.org/Slackware ? kaa.imlib2 (imlib2 base code installed) Numeric Numeric builds without warnings as far as I can see, but kaa-imlib2 and kaa-metadata have some warnings when executing the byte-compilation tmp files: Yup. You need them all. You should be able to use my slackbuilds at http://tgz.eng.ua.edu/files/slackpacks/ to build just about everything you need. I need to resync everything my home build directories again, but that get you started. Got questions ask. While I believe, except for the perl needed by xmltv, that should have everything you need, you can also get stuff at www.slackbuilds.org. You do not really need tvtime but I find it can be a very nice TV player and seems to work better than Mplayer for non-ivtv cards. Work has gotten in the way of getting FreshTGZ back together. I will work harder on getting that back up to snuff. Evan -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Your experiences with TV guide responsiveness in freevo-1.x?
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Mon, 6 Apr 2009, Evan Hisey wrote: Gees' wish I hardware that nice for freevo, or my desktop for that matter. The Intel Dual Core is the Atom in the Eeebox. Yes its nice hardware, and I bought it for about a third of the price of a desktop machine, and that included a keyboard and mouse for it. My big requirements are low power usage so that I can run it off the solar and wind system constantly (although the monitor is on the paid_for_power at present). It uses 12V, 3A for the computer and 12V, 2A for the external hard drive (at maximum). I couldn't say that about the quad core - it probably runs 350W power supply or more - I can't find that out from the outside of the box. I think that I will be purchasing more micro-computers from now on, and that includes what I get for the workplace. And yes, I am older, working and well paid - that's how I can afford to put up solar panels and a wind generator :-) Wow, now I am really envious Solar and Wind systems. It's times like this that make paying off student loans suck, get paid well, but someone else gets the pay check :/. How well is the Eeebox working over all? I have been thinking about something like that when/if can actually spring for real den system. Evam -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Help with building freevo-1.8.3
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Evan Hisey ehi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Steve Pirk or...@pirk.com wrote: Building on a Slackware 12.2 system. Grabbed all of the modules from freevo on sourceforge, gone through all of the module not found - please install errors, but setup.py in freevo still complains about those modules not being there. Modules installed but still are not found by freevo. Any ideas of what I should try next? Do I realy need to grab all of the packages listed at: http://doc.freevo.org/Slackware ? Yup. You need them all. You should be able to use my slackbuilds at http://tgz.eng.ua.edu/files/slackpacks/ to build just about everything you need. I need to resync everything my home build directories again, but that get you started. Got questions ask. While I believe, except for the perl needed by xmltv, that should have everything you need, you can also get stuff at www.slackbuilds.org. You do not really need tvtime but I find it can be a very nice TV player and seems to work better than Mplayer for non-ivtv cards. You might want try the 12.1 packages at http://tgz.eng.ua.edu/files/slackware-12.1/ I am not sure if they will work, put I suspect the perl should be fine and there are a bunch of those. Evan -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Help with building freevo-1.8.3
Evan, Thanks! Out of sheer frustration, I built out a CentOS desktop to see if that was closer... hahahaha - only Fedora pkgs, and yum on CentOS does not find it. Slack on my laptop might even be easier :-) You people rock. Quick response so far! I will also grab the 12.1 you mentioned in a later post. -- Steve Equal bytes for women. On Tue, 7 Apr 2009, Evan Hisey wrote: On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Steve Pirk or...@pirk.com wrote: Building on a Slackware 12.2 system. Grabbed all of the modules from freevo on sourceforge, gone through all of the module not found - please install errors, but setup.py in freevo still complains about those modules not being there. Modules installed but still are not found by freevo. Any ideas of what I should try next? Do I realy need to grab all of the packages listed at: http://doc.freevo.org/Slackware ? kaa.imlib2 (imlib2 base code installed) Numeric Numeric builds without warnings as far as I can see, but kaa-imlib2 and kaa-metadata have some warnings when executing the byte-compilation tmp files: Yup. You need them all. You should be able to use my slackbuilds at http://tgz.eng.ua.edu/files/slackpacks/ to build just about everything you need. I need to resync everything my home build directories again, but that get you started. Got questions ask. While I believe, except for the perl needed by xmltv, that should have everything you need, you can also get stuff at www.slackbuilds.org. You do not really need tvtime but I find it can be a very nice TV player and seems to work better than Mplayer for non-ivtv cards. Work has gotten in the way of getting FreshTGZ back together. I will work harder on getting that back up to snuff. Evan -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Help freevo - put some screenshots on the wiki
I put one here (http://doc.freevo.org/XMLTV), but the MoinMoin syntax is leaving me cold. Anybody have any ideas on how to put a clickable thumbnail that pops up a bigger version in line with text such that the text flows around the image? -Doug Seifert On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 2:47 PM, John Molohan john.molo...@gcd.ie wrote: Art S R wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 3:47 PM, John Molohan john.molo...@gcd.ie wrote: Art S R wrote: On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 2:09 AM, Stephen Rowles step...@rowles.org.uk wrote: Nice work - looks much better :) From my point of view I don't mind if you replace my panorama screenshots with ones from your system to ensure consistency between the pictures from the different skins. Thanks. I'll go ahead and revise the panorama page to be consistent with the rest of the skins. Art S R I'm going to push my luck here but you did a bloody good job on the screenshots so here goes :) The features http://doc.freevo.org/Features page would be greatly enhanced if each feature was linked to a page with screenshots showing off that feature. It would really help give people who've never used freevo a feel for for it and what it can do. Obviously it doesn't need to be done for every skin, just one would be fine... John -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users I can start on this, but my Freevo 1.8.3 system that I used to capture my screenshots is still in a state of flux and not all the media options are implemented yet on this box, so I can't really show screenshots of those features yet. My production box has all the bells and whistles, but it's still running Freevo 1.6.x and I'd rather use screenshots from a more current version in case there are differences in the look-and-feel. Art S R I'm more than happy to wait if you can find the time to do it. Really appreciate it. John -- John Molohan IT Manager Griffith College Dublin South Circular Road Dublin 8 Ireland Phone: +353 1 4163366 Web: www.it.gcd.ie www.gcd.ie Disclaimer: This E-mail is from Griffith College Dublin. The E-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and may be privileged and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the addressee you are prohibited from disclosing its content, copying it or distributing it otherwise than to the addressee. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the e-mail from your computer. Bellerophon Ltd, trades as Griffith College (registered in Ireland No. 60469) with its registered address as Griffith College Campus, South Circular Road, Dublin 8, Ireland. -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Help freevo - put some screenshots on the wiki
On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 07:30 -0700, Douglas Seifert wrote: I put one here (http://doc.freevo.org/XMLTV), but the MoinMoin syntax is leaving me cold. I know how you feel. It's on my eventual todo list to migrate to mediawiki. As an aside, please feel free to convert screenshots to JPGs. That one small screenshot at the URL above is a whole 800KB. Thanks, Jason. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Your experiences with TV guide responsiveness in freevo-1.x?
Duncan Webb wrote: John Molohan wrote: Hi, I'm looking for feedback on your experience on the responsiveness of the TV guide when scrolling in freevo-1.x. I know is a slow area for freevo but for a long time I put my bad experience with big delays down to a 1GHz athlon chip. That's now been replaced with a 2.4GHz P4 celeron but I don't notice any improvement. Scrolling in the guide pushes my cpu usage to 100%. My TV.xml file is 2.8M but I don't think that has anything to do with it, I think it's just the redraw of the screen when freevo has to display new program info as you move around. Does anyone using freevo-1.x have a guide that's nice and responsive to scroll through? If so can you share some details of versions, processors, cpu load, etc. that might shed some light? You could try getting less days of data for your TV.xml to see if a smaller file makes a difference. How many channels do you have? I have 19 channels. I normally grab 10 days worth of data with tv_grab_uk_rt and then run tv_sort on it. I've just changed this to 1 and I'll do a test with that tonight and report back. With a small TV.xml (77K) and scrolling programs the load on the P3 is about 12% but it is difficult to say. I know some of the P3s I've encountered make much more modern chips look poor. Mostly thanks to a 512kb L1 cache. Could you be a bit more specific about what slow is? I did do some timings on the TV guide once upon a time. The timings were about 0.5 seconds when scrolling about on a 733MHz P3. Duncan Once I scroll off the data (or page if that's a better way to describe it) that's displayed initially there's a long pause. I have too many channels to list on screen at one time so for this to happen I can scroll down until the guide has to start loading the channels that weren't being displayed or alternatively scroll right or left to times that weren't displayed. Once I do this I hit 100% cpu usage and the guide pauses for maybe 250-500ms per half hour or hour of the guide that's updated. Obviously this makes scrolling extremely slow, the lirc commands will actually get queued as it's not refreshing quickly enough meaning it's impossible to tell where you might end up from holding down the remote for a few seconds. A quick test with no TV.xml shows when I down scroll through the empty guide to the channels that aren't displayed originally shows no delay at all when the screen has to draw the next channels. CPU usage shows 60% to 75% though while doing this. With POLL_TIME=0.05 freevo's CPU usage is at ~19% when idle. John -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Your experiences with TV guide responsiveness in freevo-1.x?
John Molohan wrote: Duncan Webb wrote: John Molohan wrote: Hi, I'm looking for feedback on your experience on the responsiveness of the TV guide when scrolling in freevo-1.x. I know is a slow area for freevo but for a long time I put my bad experience with big delays down to a 1GHz athlon chip. That's now been replaced with a 2.4GHz P4 celeron but I don't notice any improvement. Scrolling in the guide pushes my cpu usage to 100%. My TV.xml file is 2.8M but I don't think that has anything to do with it, I think it's just the redraw of the screen when freevo has to display new program info as you move around. Does anyone using freevo-1.x have a guide that's nice and responsive to scroll through? If so can you share some details of versions, processors, cpu load, etc. that might shed some light? You could try getting less days of data for your TV.xml to see if a smaller file makes a difference. How many channels do you have? I have 19 channels. I normally grab 10 days worth of data with tv_grab_uk_rt and then run tv_sort on it. I've just changed this to 1 and I'll do a test with that tonight and report back. With a small TV.xml (77K) and scrolling programs the load on the P3 is about 12% but it is difficult to say. I know some of the P3s I've encountered make much more modern chips look poor. Mostly thanks to a 512kb L1 cache. Could you be a bit more specific about what slow is? I did do some timings on the TV guide once upon a time. The timings were about 0.5 seconds when scrolling about on a 733MHz P3. Duncan Once I scroll off the data (or page if that's a better way to describe it) that's displayed initially there's a long pause. I have too many channels to list on screen at one time so for this to happen I can scroll down until the guide has to start loading the channels that weren't being displayed or alternatively scroll right or left to times that weren't displayed. Once I do this I hit 100% cpu usage and the guide pauses for maybe 250-500ms per half hour or hour of the guide that's updated. Obviously this makes scrolling extremely slow, the lirc commands will actually get queued as it's not refreshing quickly enough meaning it's impossible to tell where you might end up from holding down the remote for a few seconds. A quick test with no TV.xml shows when I down scroll through the empty guide to the channels that aren't displayed originally shows no delay at all when the screen has to draw the next channels. CPU usage shows 60% to 75% though while doing this. With POLL_TIME=0.05 freevo's CPU usage is at ~19% when idle. John I've just tested with 1 days worth of data. My TV.xml is 231K. Scrolling still suffers from the same pauses. The delays are longer than I'd reported. It's ~1000ms to 1500ms to change to a channel that wasn't displayed or move forward or back in time. It's ~100ms to change between entries on the page that are already displayed. The CPU usage is around 80% when changing between items already displayed and goes to 100% when it has to show new data. I can't believe that a P4 2.4GHz celeron could be this poor. Could there be another explanation? I've checked cpufreq-info and it's running at the full clock speed. John -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Help freevo - put some screenshots on the wiki
Jason Tackaberry wrote: On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 07:30 -0700, Douglas Seifert wrote: I put one here (http://doc.freevo.org/XMLTV), but the MoinMoin syntax is leaving me cold. I know how you feel. It's on my eventual todo list to migrate to mediawiki. Is there any automated way to do this? I've just searched the web thinking it must be possible to do the thumbnailing but all that did was reaffirm my dislike for moinmoin. As an aside, please feel free to convert screenshots to JPGs. That one small screenshot at the URL above is a whole 800KB. Thanks, Jason. There are a lot of people on slow links in fairness even these days. Still even with just one screenshot in it totally transforms the look of that page, thanks for your help with this. John -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
