Re: [Freevo-users] Discussion about a freevo setup
On Fri, 2011-03-04 at 09:47 +0100, Bastian wrote: On 25.Feb.11 09:50 +, Adam Charrett wrote: First off Freevo doesn't have anywhere near the flexibility/features of a mythtv recording backend. A client can only talk to 1 record server and a record server can only record one program at a time (even if it has multiple tuners) this is something that _will_ be fixed in v2, but that's a way away. Well than, I would like to wait for v2. Could you explain in brief, what the current status of v2 is? I could use the time to get in touch with freevo v2.0. (Architecture, Configuration, ..). Probably I could contribute. Best way to describe v2.0 is in development Coming along nicely but still a way to go before it will be ready. A Shared (NFS) file system is what I use for both recorded and ripped content. Does freevo v2 utilize some streaming libs? Or is it planned? Freevo currently doesn't do this, let me clarify that slightly, well it can do it if you are receiving digit tv and use dvbstreamer, but you'll likely need 1 tuner per client and 1 for recording. Freevo can do livepause on a client without a tv tuner if you either use dvbstreamer (and the livepause app) or use the livepauseserver (again needs livepause) helper with an ivtv card. Thanks for pointing to dvbstreamer. I have downloaded 2.0.0, but it does not compile [1]. Ahh, odd mind you its been so long since I uploaded that, try using the 2.1.0 release that I've just uploaded with this and several other fixes. Does dvbstreamer support DVB-S multiplexing? I mean tuning one DVB card to a transponder and getting multiple streams from it? Exactly you can extract any number of services from a single transponder. I did not find any docs about livepause. I assume it uses dvbstreamer to get the stream and writes it to a tempfile, from which it streams to the client, right? If yes, these two tools provide basic functionality for a _very_ coarse PVR - EPG data is also fetched. Livepause is from the same sourceforge project (I'm the developer of both), and yes that is exactly how it works in freevo 1.x [1] http://paste.debian.net/109538 To give an example, my recordserver is in the loft where the tv signal is less degraded and I have cat5 to my frontend in the living room. I use dvbstreamer to stream the digital tv to the frontend and also a second instance to record. The setup is similar to mine. My Server is in the cave equipped with three DVB-S cards, which serves 6 clients with TV and recordings. DVB-S multiplexing is also very usefull with that. I have 1GE to all rooms. Also streaming via wifi is possible (10Mbit/s for an average stream). As beeing a debian user I have to question, if you have in mind to make freevo v2 only runnable and supportable in conjunction with a special customized linux distribution? No absolutely not, I just use ubuntu for the ease of use and the fact that its more up-to-date than debian. I want to say I really do not intend to switch to ubuntu. Ok, it might be worth doing this for the server(s), but not for the clients. Clients are partly used for daily work. Thanks, Bastian Cheers Adam -- What You Don't Know About Data Connectivity CAN Hurt You This paper provides an overview of data connectivity, details its effect on application quality, and explores various alternative solutions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/progress-d2d ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Discussion about a freevo setup
On 25.Feb.11 09:50 +, Adam Charrett wrote: First off Freevo doesn't have anywhere near the flexibility/features of a mythtv recording backend. A client can only talk to 1 record server and a record server can only record one program at a time (even if it has multiple tuners) this is something that _will_ be fixed in v2, but that's a way away. Well than, I would like to wait for v2. Could you explain in brief, what the current status of v2 is? I could use the time to get in touch with freevo v2.0. (Architecture, Configuration, ..). Probably I could contribute. A Shared (NFS) file system is what I use for both recorded and ripped content. Does freevo v2 utilize some streaming libs? Or is it planned? Freevo currently doesn't do this, let me clarify that slightly, well it can do it if you are receiving digit tv and use dvbstreamer, but you'll likely need 1 tuner per client and 1 for recording. Freevo can do livepause on a client without a tv tuner if you either use dvbstreamer (and the livepause app) or use the livepauseserver (again needs livepause) helper with an ivtv card. Thanks for pointing to dvbstreamer. I have downloaded 2.0.0, but it does not compile [1]. Does dvbstreamer support DVB-S multiplexing? I mean tuning one DVB card to a transponder and getting multiple streams from it? I did not find any docs about livepause. I assume it uses dvbstreamer to get the stream and writes it to a tempfile, from which it streams to the client, right? If yes, these two tools provide basic functionality for a _very_ coarse PVR - EPG data is also fetched. [1] http://paste.debian.net/109538 To give an example, my recordserver is in the loft where the tv signal is less degraded and I have cat5 to my frontend in the living room. I use dvbstreamer to stream the digital tv to the frontend and also a second instance to record. The setup is similar to mine. My Server is in the cave equipped with three DVB-S cards, which serves 6 clients with TV and recordings. DVB-S multiplexing is also very usefull with that. I have 1GE to all rooms. Also streaming via wifi is possible (10Mbit/s for an average stream). As beeing a debian user I have to question, if you have in mind to make freevo v2 only runnable and supportable in conjunction with a special customized linux distribution? I want to say I really do not intend to switch to ubuntu. Ok, it might be worth doing this for the server(s), but not for the clients. Clients are partly used for daily work. Thanks, Bastian -- What You Don't Know About Data Connectivity CAN Hurt You This paper provides an overview of data connectivity, details its effect on application quality, and explores various alternative solutions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/progress-d2d ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Discussion about a freevo setup
The feature list of freevo 1.9 tells me, that there is support for multiple recording backends. Sounds to me that arbritrary clients could stream and play back movies from the bachend system, right? First off Freevo doesn't have anywhere near the flexibility/features of a mythtv recording backend. A client can only talk to 1 record server and a record server can only record one program at a time (even if it has multiple tuners) this is something that _will_ be fixed in v2, but that's a way away. When did this feature break? As of 1.8 at least, if you had multiple tuners you could set freevo to record multiple channels or record on one and watch on the other. Evan -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Discussion about a freevo setup
On Thu, 2011-03-03 at 10:40 -0600, Evan Hisey wrote: The feature list of freevo 1.9 tells me, that there is support for multiple recording backends. Sounds to me that arbritrary clients could stream and play back movies from the bachend system, right? First off Freevo doesn't have anywhere near the flexibility/features of a mythtv recording backend. A client can only talk to 1 record server and a record server can only record one program at a time (even if it has multiple tuners) this is something that _will_ be fixed in v2, but that's a way away. When did this feature break? As of 1.8 at least, if you had multiple tuners you could set freevo to record multiple channels or record on one and watch on the other. Evan This isn't broken, as you say you can only ever record one channel at a time (as has always been the case). If you've got another tuner then you can use that for watching. Adam -- What You Don't Know About Data Connectivity CAN Hurt You This paper provides an overview of data connectivity, details its effect on application quality, and explores various alternative solutions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/progress-d2d ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Discussion about a freevo setup
On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 22:00 +0100, Bastian wrote: Hi all, to be honest, currently I am running mythtv, but it is pain in the a.. and I am look for alternatives. So my plans are to smoothly convert to freevo, which sounds to very well fit my needs and btw seems to be a nice piece of software :) In order to evaluate and mature the setup and the configuration of freevo for my hardware in use, I would like to start a discussion and will be glad to get some ideas, hints and information from you about freevo. Just let me explain, what kind of hardware is available: . central server: debian lenny, dvb-s, storage . network : 1GBit Ethernet and WiFi . clients : 6 machine, most debian The feature list of freevo 1.9 tells me, that there is support for multiple recording backends. Sounds to me that arbritrary clients could stream and play back movies from the bachend system, right? First off Freevo doesn't have anywhere near the flexibility/features of a mythtv recording backend. A client can only talk to 1 record server and a record server can only record one program at a time (even if it has multiple tuners) this is something that _will_ be fixed in v2, but that's a way away. What streaming technique is used there for? A shared file system or some other protocol (maybe from kaa lib)? A Shared (NFS) file system is what I use for both recorded and ripped content. Basically (but not mandatory) it would be valuable, if the recording server also serves the clients with liveTV. Is that possible? Is time shifting for livetv possible? Freevo currently doesn't do this, let me clarify that slightly, well it can do it if you are receiving digit tv and use dvbstreamer, but you'll likely need 1 tuner per client and 1 for recording. Freevo can do livepause on a client without a tv tuner if you either use dvbstreamer (and the livepause app) or use the livepauseserver (again needs livepause) helper with an ivtv card. As you see, all my clients are not capable to receive TV, thus all recordings and liveTV have to be streamed from the backend. To give an example, my recordserver is in the loft where the tv signal is less degraded and I have cat5 to my frontend in the living room. I use dvbstreamer to stream the digital tv to the frontend and also a second instance to record. What do you think. Will it be possible to realize this setup with freevo? Yes, but if you are going to want to record multiple things at the same time you're best sticking with MythTV for the moment. Thanks, Bastian For info dvbstreamer and livepause are available from : http://www.dvbstreamer.org -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
[Freevo-users] Discussion about a freevo setup
Hi all, to be honest, currently I am running mythtv, but it is pain in the a.. and I am look for alternatives. So my plans are to smoothly convert to freevo, which sounds to very well fit my needs and btw seems to be a nice piece of software :) In order to evaluate and mature the setup and the configuration of freevo for my hardware in use, I would like to start a discussion and will be glad to get some ideas, hints and information from you about freevo. Just let me explain, what kind of hardware is available: . central server: debian lenny, dvb-s, storage . network : 1GBit Ethernet and WiFi . clients : 6 machine, most debian The feature list of freevo 1.9 tells me, that there is support for multiple recording backends. Sounds to me that arbritrary clients could stream and play back movies from the bachend system, right? What streaming technique is used there for? A shared file system or some other protocol (maybe from kaa lib)? Basically (but not mandatory) it would be valuable, if the recording server also serves the clients with liveTV. Is that possible? Is time shifting for livetv possible? As you see, all my clients are not capable to receive TV, thus all recordings and liveTV have to be streamed from the backend. What do you think. Will it be possible to realize this setup with freevo? Thanks, Bastian -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
