Re: [Freevo-users] building a freevo box from scratch---hardware choices
On Wed 14.01.2004 at 04:03:41PM +0100, Bart Heremans wrote: > > Be careful, HDD can be noisy (Barracudas are very silent, though), > > but my DVD drive (not burner) is a pain in the ass from the point of > > view of noise. I've heard that recent DVD (and maybe CD) drives cannot > > be slowed down (using setcd -x or hdparm -E) as I intended to do. I'm > > thus looking for another DVD drive. > > The Nec ND1300A DVD+-RW drive that I tested this week does slown down with > hdparm -E Yes, but I'd prefer a plain drive, rather than a burner. I already have a CD burner which works well, and didn't plan to buy a DVD burner until the CD burner dies. Matthieu -- (~._.~)Matthieu Weber - Université de Jyväskylä (~._.~) ( ? )email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( ? ) ()- -() public key id : 452AE0AD ()- -() (_)-(_) "Humor ist, wenn man trotzdem lacht (Germain Muller)" (_)-(_) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Perforce Software. Perforce is the Fast Software Configuration Management System offering advanced branching capabilities and atomic changes on 50+ platforms. Free Eval! http://www.perforce.com/perforce/loadprog.html ___ Freevo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] building a freevo box from scratch---hardware choices
I am admitedly using a g400, but it needs to be said that my dxr3 tv-out is better tham my g400 tv-out. You then need to consider the 'technology' issues surrounding use of the dxr3, like no mame support. No 3D rendering in hardware.. Eveything else should work though. and they are heaps cheaper to. mick On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 20:25, William Morgan wrote: > Hello all, > > I am planning to build a dedicated Freevo box from scratch. I'm trying > to do it in less than US $650---the price of a new Tivo with a lifetime > subscription. > > I would like comments on the hardware I'm thinking about. Is it too > little? Too much? Known incompatibilities, etc? > > Here's the list: > > * Shuttle SK41G. This thing is several years old now (has the VIA KM266 > bridge) but is cheap. http://us.shuttle.com/specs_access.asp?pro_id=285 > > * Athlon XP 1700 or 2400 or something in between. > > * Matrox G400 Max AGP card. This seems to have the best TV out > support, am I right? > > * Hauppauge WinTV-Radio (#401). Has remote. > > * hard drive, dvd burner, 512mb ram, blah blah blah. > > Is this sufficient to, say, record incoming TV while watching something > from disk or playing Oggs? Any obvious gotchas in hardware support in > the above? > > Thanks, --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Perforce Software. Perforce is the Fast Software Configuration Management System offering advanced branching capabilities and atomic changes on 50+ platforms. Free Eval! http://www.perforce.com/perforce/loadprog.html ___ Freevo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] building a freevo box from scratch---hardware choices
Excerpts (reformatted) from Matthieu Weber's mail of 14 Jan 2004 (EST): > My Athlon XP 2200+ uses 50% CPU when recording from TV using mencoder, > lavcodec with B frames and vhq enabled in 512x384 and VBR MP3 audio. It > uses 20% CPU with default Freevo encoding options, in the same format. How much of a difference is it going to make to get a, say, WinTV-PVR-250 instead of the WinTV-Radio? (I assume that the difference between these products just the hardware MPEG encoding, but I'm not certain.) > Be careful, HDD can be noisy (Barracudas are very silent, though), but > my DVD drive (not burner) is a pain in the ass from the point of view > of noise. I've heard that recent DVD (and maybe CD) drives cannot be > slowed down (using setcd -x or hdparm -E) as I intended to do. I'm > thus looking for another DVD drive. Hm, good point. Does anyone have recommendations for cheap quiet DVD burners? They don't have to be fancy or fast. Thanks, -- William <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Perforce Software. Perforce is the Fast Software Configuration Management System offering advanced branching capabilities and atomic changes on 50+ platforms. Free Eval! http://www.perforce.com/perforce/loadprog.html ___ Freevo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] building a freevo box from scratch---hardware choices
>-- Original Message -- >From: Matthieu Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 14:38:38 +0200 >Subject: Re: [Freevo-users] building a freevo box from scratch---hardware >choices > > >On Wed 14.01.2004 at 07:25:30AM -0500, William Morgan wrote: > Hello all, > > I am planning to build a dedicated Freevo box from scratch. I'm trying > to do it in less than US $650---the price of a new Tivo with a lifetime > subscription. > > > would like comments on the hardware I'm thinking about. Is it too > little? Too much? Known incompatibilities, etc? > > Here's the list: > > * Shuttle SK41G. This thing is several years old now (has the VIA KM266 > bridge) but is cheap. http >//us.shuttle.com/specs_access.asp?pro_id=285 > > * Athlon XP 1700 or 2400 or something in between. > > * Matrox G400 Max AGP card. This seems to have the best TV out > support, am I right? > > * Hauppauge WinTV-Radio (#401). Has remote. > > > * hard drive, dvd burner, 512mb ram, blah blah blah. > > Is this sufficient to, say, record incoming TV while watching something > from disk or playing Oggs? Any obvious gotchas in hardware support in > the above? My Athlon XP 2200+ uses 50% >CPU when recording from TV using mencoder, lavcodec with B frames and vhq enabled in 512x384 and VBR MP3 audio. It uses 20% CPU with default Freevo encoding options, in the same format. If you manage to get the xmga or mga output driver in mplayer >to work, mplayer should take no more than a couple % of CPU time, so watching and recording at the same time will work. Be careful, HDD can be noisy (Barracudas are very silent, though), but my DVD drive (not burner) is a pain in the ass from the >point of view of noise. I've heard that recent DVD (and maybe CD) drives cannot be slowed down (using setcd -x or hdparm -E) as I intended to do. I'm thus looking for another DVD drive. Matthieu The Nec ND1300A DVD+-RW drive that I tested this week does slown down with hdparm -E Bart --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Perforce Software. Perforce is the Fast Software Configuration Management System offering advanced branching capabilities and atomic changes on 50+ platforms. Free Eval! http://www.perforce.com/perforce/loadprog.html ___ Freevo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] building a freevo box from scratch---hardware choices
>-- Original Message -- >From: Matthieu Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 14:38:38 +0200 >Subject: Re: [Freevo-users] building a freevo box from scratch---hardware >choices > > >On Wed 14.01.2004 at 07:25:30AM -0500, William Morgan wrote: > Hello all, > > I am planning to build a dedicated Freevo box from scratch. I'm trying > to do it in less than US $650---the price of a new Tivo with a lifetime > subscription. > > > would like comments on the hardware I'm thinking about. Is it too > little? Too much? Known incompatibilities, etc? > > Here's the list: > > * Shuttle SK41G. This thing is several years old now (has the VIA KM266 > bridge) but is cheap. http >//us.shuttle.com/specs_access.asp?pro_id=285 > > * Athlon XP 1700 or 2400 or something in between. > > * Matrox G400 Max AGP card. This seems to have the best TV out > support, am I right? > > * Hauppauge WinTV-Radio (#401). Has remote. > > > * hard drive, dvd burner, 512mb ram, blah blah blah. > > Is this sufficient to, say, record incoming TV while watching something > from disk or playing Oggs? Any obvious gotchas in hardware support in > the above? My Athlon XP 2200+ uses 50% >CPU when recording from TV using mencoder, lavcodec with B frames and vhq enabled in 512x384 and VBR MP3 audio. It uses 20% CPU with default Freevo encoding options, in the same format. If you manage to get the xmga or mga output driver in mplayer >to work, mplayer should take no more than a couple % of CPU time, so watching and recording at the same time will work. Be careful, HDD can be noisy (Barracudas are very silent, though), but my DVD drive (not burner) is a pain in the ass from the >point of view of noise. I've heard that recent DVD (and maybe CD) drives cannot be slowed down (using setcd -x or hdparm -E) as I intended to do. I'm thus looking for another DVD drive. Matthieu The Nec ND1300A DVD+-RW drive that I tested this week does slown down with hdparm -E Bart --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Perforce Software. Perforce is the Fast Software Configuration Management System offering advanced branching capabilities and atomic changes on 50+ platforms. Free Eval! http://www.perforce.com/perforce/loadprog.html ___ Freevo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
RE: [Freevo-users] building a freevo box from scratch---hardware choices
Looking good from here... My build up is as follows: Via EPIA-M1 mainboard/processor Hauppage PVR-350 Maxtor DMPlus 9 160gb Slimline 8x DVD-ROM Casetronic/Travla C137 (or is it 138? Never can remember) 512mb Crucial DDR2100 The noisiest thing is the HD. Cheers, dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Morgan Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 7:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Freevo-users] building a freevo box from scratch---hardware choices Hello all, I am planning to build a dedicated Freevo box from scratch. I'm trying to do it in less than US $650---the price of a new Tivo with a lifetime subscription. I would like comments on the hardware I'm thinking about. Is it too little? Too much? Known incompatibilities, etc? Here's the list: * Shuttle SK41G. This thing is several years old now (has the VIA KM266 bridge) but is cheap. http://us.shuttle.com/specs_access.asp?pro_id=285 * Athlon XP 1700 or 2400 or something in between. * Matrox G400 Max AGP card. This seems to have the best TV out support, am I right? * Hauppauge WinTV-Radio (#401). Has remote. * hard drive, dvd burner, 512mb ram, blah blah blah. Is this sufficient to, say, record incoming TV while watching something from disk or playing Oggs? Any obvious gotchas in hardware support in the above? Thanks, -- William <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Perforce Software. Perforce is the Fast Software Configuration Management System offering advanced branching capabilities and atomic changes on 50+ platforms. Free Eval! http://www.perforce.com/perforce/loadprog.html ___ Freevo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Perforce Software. Perforce is the Fast Software Configuration Management System offering advanced branching capabilities and atomic changes on 50+ platforms. Free Eval! http://www.perforce.com/perforce/loadprog.html ___ Freevo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] building a freevo box from scratch---hardware choices
On Wed 14.01.2004 at 07:25:30AM -0500, William Morgan wrote: > Hello all, > > I am planning to build a dedicated Freevo box from scratch. I'm trying > to do it in less than US $650---the price of a new Tivo with a lifetime > subscription. > > I would like comments on the hardware I'm thinking about. Is it too > little? Too much? Known incompatibilities, etc? > > Here's the list: > > * Shuttle SK41G. This thing is several years old now (has the VIA KM266 > bridge) but is cheap. http://us.shuttle.com/specs_access.asp?pro_id=285 > > * Athlon XP 1700 or 2400 or something in between. > > * Matrox G400 Max AGP card. This seems to have the best TV out > support, am I right? > > * Hauppauge WinTV-Radio (#401). Has remote. > > * hard drive, dvd burner, 512mb ram, blah blah blah. > > Is this sufficient to, say, record incoming TV while watching something > from disk or playing Oggs? Any obvious gotchas in hardware support in > the above? My Athlon XP 2200+ uses 50% CPU when recording from TV using mencoder, lavcodec with B frames and vhq enabled in 512x384 and VBR MP3 audio. It uses 20% CPU with default Freevo encoding options, in the same format. If you manage to get the xmga or mga output driver in mplayer to work, mplayer should take no more than a couple % of CPU time, so watching and recording at the same time will work. Be careful, HDD can be noisy (Barracudas are very silent, though), but my DVD drive (not burner) is a pain in the ass from the point of view of noise. I've heard that recent DVD (and maybe CD) drives cannot be slowed down (using setcd -x or hdparm -E) as I intended to do. I'm thus looking for another DVD drive. Matthieu -- (~._.~)Matthieu Weber - Université de Jyväskylä (~._.~) ( ? )email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( ? ) ()- -() public key id : 452AE0AD ()- -() (_)-(_) "Humor ist, wenn man trotzdem lacht (Germain Muller)" (_)-(_) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Perforce Software. Perforce is the Fast Software Configuration Management System offering advanced branching capabilities and atomic changes on 50+ platforms. Free Eval! http://www.perforce.com/perforce/loadprog.html ___ Freevo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
[Freevo-users] building a freevo box from scratch---hardware choices
Hello all, I am planning to build a dedicated Freevo box from scratch. I'm trying to do it in less than US $650---the price of a new Tivo with a lifetime subscription. I would like comments on the hardware I'm thinking about. Is it too little? Too much? Known incompatibilities, etc? Here's the list: * Shuttle SK41G. This thing is several years old now (has the VIA KM266 bridge) but is cheap. http://us.shuttle.com/specs_access.asp?pro_id=285 * Athlon XP 1700 or 2400 or something in between. * Matrox G400 Max AGP card. This seems to have the best TV out support, am I right? * Hauppauge WinTV-Radio (#401). Has remote. * hard drive, dvd burner, 512mb ram, blah blah blah. Is this sufficient to, say, record incoming TV while watching something from disk or playing Oggs? Any obvious gotchas in hardware support in the above? Thanks, -- William <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Perforce Software. Perforce is the Fast Software Configuration Management System offering advanced branching capabilities and atomic changes on 50+ platforms. Free Eval! http://www.perforce.com/perforce/loadprog.html ___ Freevo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
