Re: [Freevo-users] freevo 1.6 miss reading DVDs

[Duncan Webb]

Evan Hisey wrote:
> Duncan-
>> Personally I think the xine developers are not being logical, I don't
>> see why they should disable --no-lirc when lirc has not been built-in.
> Agreed, but that is what they have done.

I think they should change the help messages but silently ignore
--no-lirc when lirc support is not built in.

>> I really doesn't make much sense to have a xine built without lirc and
>> then use freevo with lirc enabled. So I would suggest that xine is
>> rebuilt with lirc support.

> This not really needed as Freevo is handling the lirc commands for
> xine. Given that Freevo has to send a --no-lirc to xine to disable
> built in lirc support adding lirc support to xine just get it disabled
> is what seems odd.

Ah yes, I was forgetting that freevo sends commands via stdin to xine,
so xine doesn't need lirc support.

So the lirc support for xine is completely independent from using lirc
in freevo, so as you have correctly done, it has now become a
configuration setting.

Duncan


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Re: [Freevo-users] freevo 1.6 miss reading DVDs

[Evan Hisey]

Duncan-
>
> Personally I think the xine developers are not being logical, I don't
> see why they should disable --no-lirc when lirc has not been built-in.
Agreed, but that is what theyhave done.


> I really doesn't make much sense to have a xine built without lirc and
> then use freevo with lirc enabled. So I would suggest that xine is
> rebuilt with lirc support.
This not really needed as Freevo is handling the lirc commands for
xine. Given that Freevo has to send a --no-lirc to xine to disable
built in lirc support adding lirc support to xine just get it disabled
is what seems odd.

> >From the freevo side: if lirc is not being used then the code in rc.py
> checks for config.LIRCRC it the file that this points to doesn't exist
> then PYLIRC is FALSE.
>
> In video/plugins/xine the following is defined:
>   if not rc.PYLIRC and '--no-lirc' in command:
> command.remove('--no-lirc')
> I which case the --no-lirc option is *not* passed to xine.
>
This would work in cases where lirc is not used at all, but still
fails in cases like with where lirc is used but xine is not build with
lirc support. Not in front of  *nix box at the moment, but maybe
freevo can test the xine binary for lirc support during 'freevo setup'
and have it determine an lirc enabled or disabled build and set it in
freevo.conf.
  Becuase this maybe an edge-case, I still think an option like
XINE_LIRC_DISABLED=<0 or 1> in local_config.py with the default
setting to be true would be the simplest and fast solution to the
problem. So then you end up with something like this:
  if XINE_LIRC_DISABLED = 1
  command.remove('--no-lirc')
This leaves the command as is for most installations, which seem to
work, butprovides a fix for edge cases. This also looks simpler to
implement. My python is not very good,but I could try and code this
check in to the plugin.

Evan

Honestly

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Re: [Freevo-users] freevo 1.6 miss reading DVDs

[Duncan Webb]

Evan Hisey wrote:
> Duncan-
>   Seems I am having trouble reproducing that zip error again. As far I
> can tell nothing has changed on my software. It may have been a race
> condition that caused it.I will keep trying to find it again. Also
> there is an issue with using versions of Xine that are not compiled
> with lirc spport. Freevo assumes it is there and sends the -nolirc
> option to xine which crashes if lirc  support was not compiled in.
> This is really an xine bug. Should it be listed as a known problem or
> do you want to try to code a freevo side fix. There is a work around
> that I have been using that involved editing teh xine.py plugin to
> remove the -nolirc option from the command line. Maybe set
> local_config.py switch to turn it on or off?

Personally I think the xine developers are not being logical, I don't
see why they should disable --no-lirc when lirc has not been built-in.

I really doesn't make much sense to have a xine built without lirc and
then use freevo with lirc enabled. So I would suggest that xine is
rebuilt with lirc support.

>From the freevo side: if lirc is not being used then the code in rc.py
checks for config.LIRCRC it the file that this points to doesn't exist
then PYLIRC is FALSE.

In video/plugins/xine the following is defined:
  if not rc.PYLIRC and '--no-lirc' in command:
command.remove('--no-lirc')
I which case the --no-lirc option is *not* passed to xine.

Seems reasonable to me, don't you think?

Duncan

> 
> Evan
> 
> On 11/1/06, Duncan Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Evan Hisey wrote:
>>> Yup, it was a bad DVD drive. Not sure why it partially was working,
>>> but it all worked right with the new DVD drive.
>> Older drives don't always work with DVD-R(RW) disks and sometimes also
>> with DVD-9 disks. Usually it means that you need to do a firmware upgrade.
>>
>> BTW your bug report for bad zipfiles, could you send a crash report so I
>> know where to look.
>>
>> Duncan
>>
>>> Evan
>>>
>>> On 10/30/06, Evan Hisey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 Thanks for the replies, It looks like teh culprit is a bad dvd drive.
 I will swap that out later and see what I am getting.

 Evan

 On 10/30/06, John Molohan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Evan Hisey wrote:
>> I am haveing an odd issue with 1.6. It is not reading DVDs as dvds but
>> as data disks. No errors are showing up that I can find. ANyone have
>> any idea as to a cause? The Smae dvd's work fine under 1.5.4.
>>
>> Evan
>>
> Does mminfo -d 2 /dev/dvd give any clues?
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Re: [Freevo-users] freevo 1.6 miss reading DVDs

[Evan Hisey]

Duncan-
  Seems I am having trouble reproducing that zip error again. As far I
can tell nothing has changed on my software. It may have been a race
condition that caused it.I will keep trying to find it again. Also
there is an issue with using versions of Xine that are not compiled
with lirc spport. Freevo assumes it is there and sends the -nolirc
option to xine which crashes if lirc  support was not compiled in.
This is really an xine bug. Should it be listed as a known problem or
do you want to try to code a freevo side fix. There is a work around
that I have been using that involved editing teh xine.py plugin to
remove the -nolirc option from the command line. Maybe set
local_config.py switch to turn it on or off?

Evan

On 11/1/06, Duncan Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Evan Hisey wrote:
> > Yup, it was a bad DVD drive. Not sure why it partially was working,
> > but it all worked right with the new DVD drive.
>
> Older drives don't always work with DVD-R(RW) disks and sometimes also
> with DVD-9 disks. Usually it means that you need to do a firmware upgrade.
>
> BTW your bug report for bad zipfiles, could you send a crash report so I
> know where to look.
>
> Duncan
>
> > Evan
> >
> > On 10/30/06, Evan Hisey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Thanks for the replies, It looks like teh culprit is a bad dvd drive.
> >> I will swap that out later and see what I am getting.
> >>
> >> Evan
> >>
> >> On 10/30/06, John Molohan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> Evan Hisey wrote:
>  I am haveing an odd issue with 1.6. It is not reading DVDs as dvds but
>  as data disks. No errors are showing up that I can find. ANyone have
>  any idea as to a cause? The Smae dvd's work fine under 1.5.4.
> 
>  Evan
> 
> >>> Does mminfo -d 2 /dev/dvd give any clues?
>
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Re: [Freevo-users] freevo 1.6 miss reading DVDs

[Duncan Webb]

Evan Hisey wrote:
> Yup, it was a bad DVD drive. Not sure why it partially was working,
> but it all worked right with the new DVD drive.

Older drives don't always work with DVD-R(RW) disks and sometimes also
with DVD-9 disks. Usually it means that you need to do a firmware upgrade.

BTW your bug report for bad zipfiles, could you send a crash report so I
know where to look.

Duncan

> Evan
> 
> On 10/30/06, Evan Hisey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Thanks for the replies, It looks like teh culprit is a bad dvd drive.
>> I will swap that out later and see what I am getting.
>>
>> Evan
>>
>> On 10/30/06, John Molohan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Evan Hisey wrote:
 I am haveing an odd issue with 1.6. It is not reading DVDs as dvds but
 as data disks. No errors are showing up that I can find. ANyone have
 any idea as to a cause? The Smae dvd's work fine under 1.5.4.

 Evan

>>> Does mminfo -d 2 /dev/dvd give any clues?


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Re: [Freevo-users] freevo 1.6 miss reading DVDs

[Evan Hisey]

Yup, it was a bad DVD drive. Not sure why it partially was working,
but it all worked right with the new DVD drive.

Evan

On 10/30/06, Evan Hisey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for the replies, It looks like teh culprit is a bad dvd drive.
> I will swap that out later and see what I am getting.
>
> Evan
>
> On 10/30/06, John Molohan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Evan Hisey wrote:
> > > I am haveing an odd issue with 1.6. It is not reading DVDs as dvds but
> > > as data disks. No errors are showing up that I can find. ANyone have
> > > any idea as to a cause? The Smae dvd's work fine under 1.5.4.
> > >
> > > Evan
> > >
> > Does mminfo -d 2 /dev/dvd give any clues?
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Re: [Freevo-users] freevo 1.6 miss reading DVDs

[Evan Hisey]

Thanks for the replies, It looks like teh culprit is a bad dvd drive.
I will swap that out later and see what I am getting.

Evan

On 10/30/06, John Molohan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Evan Hisey wrote:
> > I am haveing an odd issue with 1.6. It is not reading DVDs as dvds but
> > as data disks. No errors are showing up that I can find. ANyone have
> > any idea as to a cause? The Smae dvd's work fine under 1.5.4.
> >
> > Evan
> >
> Does mminfo -d 2 /dev/dvd give any clues?
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Re: [Freevo-users] freevo 1.6 miss reading DVDs

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Evan Hisey wrote:
> I am haveing an odd issue with 1.6. It is not reading DVDs as dvds but
> as data disks. No errors are showing up that I can find. ANyone have
> any idea as to a cause? The Smae dvd's work fine under 1.5.4.
> 
> Evan
> 
Does mminfo -d 2 /dev/dvd give any clues?

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Re: [Freevo-users] freevo 1.6 miss reading DVDs

[Duncan Webb]

Justin Wetherell wrote:
> Did we remove lsdvd for mmpython this release? I seem to remember that
> being discussed but im not 100% sure. I'd guess that would be the
> problem, if true.

lsdvd is still required for mmpython-0.4.10 and so freevo-1.6.0.

The svn rel-1 branch has been converted to use kaa.metadata and so does
not need lsdvd.

> On 10/29/06, * Evan Hisey* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> wrote:
> 
> I am haveing an odd issue with 1.6. It is not reading DVDs as dvds but
> as data disks. No errors are showing up that I can find. ANyone have
> any idea as to a cause? The Smae dvd's work fine under 1.5.4.

The only thing I can think of is the version of lsdvd you are using. I
tested this with lsdvd-0.15 and lsdvd-0.16 and I've not detected any
problems.

Duncan


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Re: [Freevo-users] freevo 1.6 miss reading DVDs

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[Freevo-users] freevo 1.6 miss reading DVDs

[Evan Hisey]

I am haveing an odd issue with 1.6. It is not reading DVDs as dvds but
as data disks. No errors are showing up that I can find. ANyone have
any idea as to a cause? The Smae dvd's work fine under 1.5.4.

Evan

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