Re: [Freevo-users] kernel 2.6.27 and Hauppauge PVR 350 card : some troubles

2008-10-14 Thread Pascal Schirrmann
Pascal Schirrmann a écrit :
 Should I submit a bug request in Freevo (Or should I try to patch myself 
 ? I'll try, but I'm soo slow...)

 Thanks,
 Pascal
   
OK, forget it :-) Just a fast jump in v4l2.py gave me the solution :

I did set secam-l in freevo.conf, as this is the value that works with 
v4l2-ctl. But v4l2.py wait for secam_l

So, with secam_l in my freevo.conf, freevo is running fine again :-)

Thanks,
Pascal



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Re: [Freevo-users] kernel 2.6.27 and Hauppauge PVR 350 card : some troubles

2008-10-14 Thread Robert WInder
On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 07:01 +0200, Duncan Webb wrote:
 On 13/10/2008 22:57, Pascal Schirrmann said the following:
  Pascal Schirrmann a écrit :
  Pascal Schirrmann a écrit :

  I'm in France, so most program are in SECAM, I don't know if this has 
  something to do with my trouble.

  
  OK, I got it (and in some ways, it returns to freevo, sorry :-|).
 
  Since long time, PVR card did work in a kind of generic PAL or generic 
  SECAM mode. For secam, this was a value of ff, witch this result :
 
  $ v4l2-ctl -S
  Video Standard = 0x00ff
  SECAM-B/D/G/H/K/K1/L/Lc
 
  This doesn't work anymore (at least on my system !)
  But if I select the 'French secam' (that is, secam-L) :
  $ v4l2-ctl -s secam-L
  Standard set to 0040
  $ v4l2-ctl -S
  Video Standard = 0x0040
  SECAM-L
 
 
  Then the sound is back here (to be able to do that, I change the 
  standard in ferrvo.conf to a wrong value. So freevo complains, but the 
  TV has sound !)
 

  OK, I tried my chance on the ivtv-users list, and here is the answer of 
  Hans Verkuil :
  
  
  
  Hi Pascal,
  
  It's not a bug, it's the right behavior. I'm even a bit surprised that 
  this has worked in the past. Setting generic secam is a bad thing to do 
  as there is really no such thing. In practice you have SECAM-BG, 
  SECAM-DK and SECAM-L. And it is basically undefined what will happen if 
  you just set SECAM.
 
 More than likely the driver used a specific standard, such as SECAM-BG 
 when SECAM was selected.
 
 Has anyone noticed that the ivtv driver now loads the firmware, not on 
 the module loading but when it is first accessed? If this is the new 
 behaviour then it is a nice feature, as the drivers can be modprobed in 
 a standard order.
 
 Duncan

Yeah I noticed this and it fails to load the firmware so now and then on
my pvr150 with ivtv 2.3.0, As an result I am ending up with a lot of
static recordings. Still investigating why this behaviour is
intermittent though before reporting it through the proper channels.
Could be a race condition when passing on the v4l2 commands with freevo.
Not sure yet. 

fyi. 

ivtv0: Loaded v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw firmware (376836 bytes)
ivtv0: Encoder revision: 0x02060039
i2c-adapter i2c-1: sendbytes: NAK bailout.
cx25840 1-0044: firmware load i2c failure
i2c-adapter i2c-1: sendbytes: NAK bailout.
tuner 1-0061: tuner type not set
tuner 1-0061: tuner type not set
tuner 1-0061: tuner type not set

 /Robert Winder 



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Re: [Freevo-users] kernel 2.6.27 and Hauppauge PVR 350 card : some troubles

2008-10-13 Thread Pascal Schirrmann
Pascal Schirrmann a écrit :
 Pascal Schirrmann a écrit :
   
 I'm in France, so most program are in SECAM, I don't know if this has 
 something to do with my trouble.
   
 
 OK, I got it (and in some ways, it returns to freevo, sorry :-|).

 Since long time, PVR card did work in a kind of generic PAL or generic 
 SECAM mode. For secam, this was a value of ff, witch this result :

 $ v4l2-ctl -S
 Video Standard = 0x00ff
 SECAM-B/D/G/H/K/K1/L/Lc

 This doesn't work anymore (at least on my system !)
 But if I select the 'French secam' (that is, secam-L) :
 $ v4l2-ctl -s secam-L
 Standard set to 0040
 $ v4l2-ctl -S
 Video Standard = 0x0040
 SECAM-L


 Then the sound is back here (to be able to do that, I change the 
 standard in ferrvo.conf to a wrong value. So freevo complains, but the 
 TV has sound !)

   
OK, I tried my chance on the ivtv-users list, and here is the answer of 
Hans Verkuil :



Hi Pascal,

It's not a bug, it's the right behavior. I'm even a bit surprised that 
this has worked in the past. Setting generic secam is a bad thing to do 
as there is really no such thing. In practice you have SECAM-BG, 
SECAM-DK and SECAM-L. And it is basically undefined what will happen if 
you just set SECAM.

Regards,

Hans

--

Seeing the number of files owned by Hans in the ivtv project, I suppose 
that this can be seen as an authoritative answer.

Should I submit a bug request in Freevo (Or should I try to patch myself 
? I'll try, but I'm soo slow...)

Thanks,
Pascal


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Re: [Freevo-users] kernel 2.6.27 and Hauppauge PVR 350 card : some troubles

2008-10-13 Thread Duncan Webb
On 13/10/2008 22:57, Pascal Schirrmann said the following:
 Pascal Schirrmann a écrit :
 Pascal Schirrmann a écrit :
   
 I'm in France, so most program are in SECAM, I don't know if this has 
 something to do with my trouble.
   
 
 OK, I got it (and in some ways, it returns to freevo, sorry :-|).

 Since long time, PVR card did work in a kind of generic PAL or generic 
 SECAM mode. For secam, this was a value of ff, witch this result :

 $ v4l2-ctl -S
 Video Standard = 0x00ff
 SECAM-B/D/G/H/K/K1/L/Lc

 This doesn't work anymore (at least on my system !)
 But if I select the 'French secam' (that is, secam-L) :
 $ v4l2-ctl -s secam-L
 Standard set to 0040
 $ v4l2-ctl -S
 Video Standard = 0x0040
 SECAM-L


 Then the sound is back here (to be able to do that, I change the 
 standard in ferrvo.conf to a wrong value. So freevo complains, but the 
 TV has sound !)

   
 OK, I tried my chance on the ivtv-users list, and here is the answer of 
 Hans Verkuil :
 
 
 
 Hi Pascal,
 
 It's not a bug, it's the right behavior. I'm even a bit surprised that 
 this has worked in the past. Setting generic secam is a bad thing to do 
 as there is really no such thing. In practice you have SECAM-BG, 
 SECAM-DK and SECAM-L. And it is basically undefined what will happen if 
 you just set SECAM.

More than likely the driver used a specific standard, such as SECAM-BG 
when SECAM was selected.

Has anyone noticed that the ivtv driver now loads the firmware, not on 
the module loading but when it is first accessed? If this is the new 
behaviour then it is a nice feature, as the drivers can be modprobed in 
a standard order.

Duncan

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[Freevo-users] kernel 2.6.27 and Hauppauge PVR 350 card : some troubles

2008-10-12 Thread Pascal Schirrmann
Hi,

freevo 1.8 svn, on a brand new Linux (Mandriva 2009) installation, but 
on a 'working yesterday' harware :

I had some troubles to install every needed dependency, the 2.6.27 
kernel is a little young. For example, I had to install a cvs version of 
lirc, the lirc 'official' doesn't compile on kernel above 2.6.25.

So far so good, my freevo installation is nearly working. But I 
encounter a strange trouble while watching or recording TV.

I'm in France, so most program are in SECAM, I don't know if this has 
something to do with my trouble.
The trouble is : in some case, I have no sound when watching TV. It 
seems (not done each and every tests) that I have sound only if the 
source channel is delivered in stereo.
It's not a frequency trouble : On one channel, the program is 'time 
spitted between two senders. One sender send in stereo : I have the 
sound and the other in mono : no sound.
This is probalby not a freevo trouble, and I'll try to find answer on 
other souces, but if someone have ideas or test suggestion :-)

Thanks,
Pascal

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Re: [Freevo-users] kernel 2.6.27 and Hauppauge PVR 350 card : some troubles

2008-10-12 Thread John Molohan
Pascal Schirrmann wrote:
 Hi,

 freevo 1.8 svn, on a brand new Linux (Mandriva 2009) installation, but 
 on a 'working yesterday' harware :

 I had some troubles to install every needed dependency, the 2.6.27 
 kernel is a little young. For example, I had to install a cvs version of 
 lirc, the lirc 'official' doesn't compile on kernel above 2.6.25.
   
For my mceusb remote I just had to urpmi dkms-lirc-0.8.3, not sure what 
remote you're using but that may be an easier approach.
 So far so good, my freevo installation is nearly working. But I 
 encounter a strange trouble while watching or recording TV.

 I'm in France, so most program are in SECAM, I don't know if this has 
 something to do with my trouble.
 The trouble is : in some case, I have no sound when watching TV. It 
 seems (not done each and every tests) that I have sound only if the 
 source channel is delivered in stereo.
 It's not a frequency trouble : On one channel, the program is 'time 
 spitted between two senders. One sender send in stereo : I have the 
 sound and the other in mono : no sound.
 This is probalby not a freevo trouble, and I'll try to find answer on 
 other souces, but if someone have ideas or test suggestion :-)

 Thanks,
 Pascal
There certainly were some problems in the ivtv driver with stereo 
detection (not sure what versions are affected or if it's fully fixed 
but when I came across it it was 12 or 18 months ago). I've got PAL and 
haven't noticed any problems yet but have not had much time to test, a 
look at the ivtv mailing lists might throw up some info.

John

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Re: [Freevo-users] kernel 2.6.27 and Hauppauge PVR 350 card : some troubles

2008-10-12 Thread Pascal Schirrmann
John Molohan a écrit :
 For my mceusb remote I just had to urpmi dkms-lirc-0.8.3, not sure what 
 remote you're using but that may be an easier approach.
   
Thanks John, alltough I  allready used dkms drivers, I didn't really 
search out what  kind of (mice) thing this is !
So I just did a little google, and for sure, the dkms version is  better 
for  a remote needing a kernel dependant mode, like the hauppauge remote !
So I just installed the dkms version of lirc, and great : this version 
includes the lirc_i2c module :-)
One less step at the next kernel update...

 There certainly were some problems in the ivtv driver with stereo 
 detection (not sure what versions are affected or if it's fully fixed 
 but when I came across it it was 12 or 18 months ago). I've got PAL and 
 haven't noticed any problems yet but have not had much time to test, a 
 look at the ivtv mailing lists might throw up some info.
   
Yes, I read some audio troubles with the ivtv module, but not exactly 
something like the trouble I encounter.

But my latest tests let me think that I have only audio when I receive a 
NICAM signal (SECAM wasn't able to carry a stareo signal : the sound 
modulation is in AM so when Stereo was to add, a new system was build, 
with a numeric stereo signal put in some invisible line of the picture. 
In other words, I can receive sound from the picture !)
If a do some diff with the main freevo system here (kernel 2.6.24), I 
see that v4l2-ctl -T set the sound to lang1 on the working system and 
let the sound to stereo on the muted system.
 John
   
Thanks,
Pascal

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Re: [Freevo-users] kernel 2.6.27 and Hauppauge PVR 350 card : some troubles

2008-10-12 Thread Pascal Schirrmann
Pascal Schirrmann a écrit :
 I'm in France, so most program are in SECAM, I don't know if this has 
 something to do with my trouble.
   
OK, I got it (and in some ways, it returns to freevo, sorry :-|).

Since long time, PVR card did work in a kind of generic PAL or generic 
SACAM mode. For secam, this was a value of ff, witch this result :

$ v4l2-ctl -S
Video Standard = 0x00ff
SECAM-B/D/G/H/K/K1/L/Lc

This doesn't work anymore (at least on my system !)
But if I select the 'French secam' (that is, secam-L) :
$ v4l2-ctl -s secam-L
Standard set to 0040
$ v4l2-ctl -S
Video Standard = 0x0040
SECAM-L


Then the sound is back here (to be able to do that, I change the 
standard in ferrvo.conf to a wrong value. So freevo complains, but the 
TV has sound !)

Is there an official way to do that (without hacking a program file ?)

BTW, NICAM channel sound level is way lower than classical channels 
(again, on my system). Could it be feasible to have a sound level by 
channel (probably a lot of work...) ?

Thanks,
Pascal

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Re: [Freevo-users] kernel 2.6.27 and Hauppauge PVR 350 card : some troubles

2008-10-12 Thread Jason Tackaberry
On Sun, 2008-10-12 at 16:01 +0200, Pascal Schirrmann wrote:
 I had some troubles to install every needed dependency, the 2.6.27 
 kernel is a little young. For example, I had to install a cvs version of 
 lirc, the lirc 'official' doesn't compile on kernel above 2.6.25.

I use 2.6.27.  CVS lirc should compile on 2.6.27.  At least, I submitted
a patch to fix compile problems against 2.6.27 and I believe the patch
was applied to cvs.

Cheers,
Jason.


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Re: [Freevo-users] kernel 2.6.27 and Hauppauge PVR 350 card : some troubles

2008-10-12 Thread Jonathan Isom
lirc 0.8.4 was released today btw.

Later

Jonathan




On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Jason Tackaberry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, 2008-10-12 at 16:01 +0200, Pascal Schirrmann wrote:
 I had some troubles to install every needed dependency, the 2.6.27
 kernel is a little young. For example, I had to install a cvs version of
 lirc, the lirc 'official' doesn't compile on kernel above 2.6.25.

 I use 2.6.27.  CVS lirc should compile on 2.6.27.  At least, I submitted
 a patch to fix compile problems against 2.6.27 and I believe the patch
 was applied to cvs.

 Cheers,
 Jason.


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Re: [Freevo-users] kernel 2.6.27 and Hauppauge PVR 350 card : some troubles

2008-10-12 Thread Pascal Schirrmann
Jason Tackaberry a écrit :
 On Sun, 2008-10-12 at 16:01 +0200, Pascal Schirrmann wrote:
   
 I had some troubles to install every needed dependency, the 2.6.27 
 kernel is a little young. For example, I had to install a cvs version of 
 lirc, the lirc 'official' doesn't compile on kernel above 2.6.25.
 

 I use 2.6.27.  CVS lirc should compile on 2.6.27.  At least, I submitted
 a patch to fix compile problems against 2.6.27 and I believe the patch
 was applied to cvs.
   
Yes, that was what I wanted to say : Only the CVS version of lirc can 
compile on 2.6.27, not version 0.8.3. But if the 0.8.4 version in now 
available, I think that this question is closed :-) I just needed this 
one yesterday ! No luck ;-)

Thanks,
Pascal

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