RE: [Freevo-users] tv-out issues.

2004-03-15 Thread Mick
On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 13:17, Jaap Struyk wrote:
 Op vr 12-03-2004, om 02:44 schreef Andrew Dumaresq:
 
  http://www.dumaresq.ca/tv.jpg
 
 I had a minitor once who did that, when I replaced it the new one also
 did that.
 After 2 months, when I moved the speaker from my stereo the problem went
 away... ;-)
 Maybe this sounds stupid, but if you have that with different cards and
 different tv-sets, there must be something else going on.

I have almost the exact same tv as yours.  (looks the same) mines a
KVJ29 something..  I'm not sitting near it to test.  I get something
*VERY* similar, only not as profound.  Your talking about the left hand
side of the picture being closer at the bottom than at the top?

Mine does this but its inly about 3 or 4 pixels different.  I really
think this is the TV thats doing it to you, not the PC.  How old is the
TV?  One option is to call your local TV repair shop and ask them for
the spec sheets for you model..  you need to alter the 'trapeziod'
setting and its normaly a variable resister..

However, its alot of work for something only YOU are going to notice..  


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RE: [Freevo-users] tv-out issues.

2004-03-13 Thread Andrew Dumaresq
I tried a more expensive NVIDIA card (FX5600) and I still get the problem,
I'd love to move away from NVIDIA but my ATI (9800XT) does the exact same
thing, I could move to Matrox but as I understand it Matrox cards don't have
good X support. So the question becomes what video card works best?

Thanks

Andrew


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Matthew Bettencourt wrote:

 I have the exact same problem.  I haven't figured out what it is, 
 except maybe the card is crap.  I have tried many different cards (all 
 nvidia) and some are better and some worse.  It is like the image is 
 rotated a couple of degrees.  If you get anywhere on this please post 
 to me at least and most likely the whole list
 Thanks
 Matt


You hit the nail there, the TV chips on these cards is actually a piece 
of sh*t. My SN41G2 box displays the exact same symptom; it bulges at the 
sides and narrows towards the top. If I had know what I now do about the 
quality of Nvidias non-gaming components I would *never* have bought 
this system. And of course it doesn't help that they refuse to divulge 
the required specs for 3rd party drivers for their products as well - 
getting the onboard sound working has been a nightmare all the way. To 
anyone browsing this list and considering buying a freevo system: STAY 
AWAY FROM NVIDIA!



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Re: [Freevo-users] tv-out issues.

2004-03-13 Thread Barnowl
For Freevo, Matrox have the all the support it needs. In my experince the Matrox have 
the best video quality of any card. They do lack some of 3d accel stuff, though.

Evan 

n Sat, 13 Mar 2004 11:37:17 -0400
Andrew Dumaresq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I tried a more expensive NVIDIA card (FX5600) and I still get the problem,
 I'd love to move away from NVIDIA but my ATI (9800XT) does the exact same
 thing, I could move to Matrox but as I understand it Matrox cards don't have
 good X support. So the question becomes what video card works best?
 
 Thanks
 
 Andrew
 
 
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 Subject: Re: [Freevo-users] tv-out issues.
 
 Matthew Bettencourt wrote:
 
  I have the exact same problem.  I haven't figured out what it is, 
  except maybe the card is crap.  I have tried many different cards (all 
  nvidia) and some are better and some worse.  It is like the image is 
  rotated a couple of degrees.  If you get anywhere on this please post 
  to me at least and most likely the whole list
  Thanks
  Matt
 
 
 You hit the nail there, the TV chips on these cards is actually a piece 
 of sh*t. My SN41G2 box displays the exact same symptom; it bulges at the 
 sides and narrows towards the top. If I had know what I now do about the 
 quality of Nvidias non-gaming components I would *never* have bought 
 this system. And of course it doesn't help that they refuse to divulge 
 the required specs for 3rd party drivers for their products as well - 
 getting the onboard sound working has been a nightmare all the way. To 
 anyone browsing this list and considering buying a freevo system: STAY 
 AWAY FROM NVIDIA!
 
 
 
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Re: [Freevo-users] tv-out issues.

2004-03-12 Thread Matthew Bettencourt
I have the exact same problem.  I haven't figured out what it is, except 
maybe the card is crap.  I have tried many different cards (all nvidia) 
and some are better and some worse.  It is like the image is rotated a 
couple of degrees.  If you get anywhere on this please post to me at 
least and most likely the whole list
Thanks
Matt

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  Dumaresq
  Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 8:47 PM
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  Subject: [Freevo-users] tv-out issues.
 
  Ok I have a problem with the output on my TV, the screen is wider 
at the
  bottom, than at the top, and basically if I turn of TVOverScan the 
black

 bar

  on the right hand side is larger at the top.  Has anyone else seen 
this
  problem and have any idea how to fix it?  I realize this isn't a 
Freevo
  issue, but I'm hoping someone has a solution.  I have tried 3 
different
  video cards, 2 TV's and 4 cables so I'm not sure what the heck is 
going

 on.

 
  Thanks
 
  Andrew


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[Freevo-users] tv-out issues.

2004-03-11 Thread Andrew Dumaresq
Ok I have a problem with the output on my TV, the screen is wider at the
bottom, than at the top, and basically if I turn of TVOverScan the black bar
on the right hand side is larger at the top.  Has anyone else seen this
problem and have any idea how to fix it?  I realize this isn't a Freevo
issue, but I'm hoping someone has a solution.  I have tried 3 different
video cards, 2 TV's and 4 cables so I'm not sure what the heck is going on.

Thanks

Andrew



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RE: [Freevo-users] tv-out issues.

2004-03-11 Thread Andrew Dumaresq
I thought maybe I should mention my hardware config :)

Currently using an Nvidia Geforce 4 MX440, Intel 2.4 Hyper Threading 800
Bus, running on 865 Intel chipset.  I have a Wintv PVR-250, 2 Sata 80 gig
Seagate drives and 512megs of ram.  I'm using the nvidia binary driver, 4363
but I've tried a bunch of versions and the open source driver but none of
that makes any difference. The Kernel is 2.6.3 but I had the same problem
with 2.4.25 so I don't think that's the problem.  The distribution is Gentoo
and I'm using the current CVS version of Freevo.


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Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 8:47 PM
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Subject: [Freevo-users] tv-out issues.

Ok I have a problem with the output on my TV, the screen is wider at the
bottom, than at the top, and basically if I turn of TVOverScan the black bar
on the right hand side is larger at the top.  Has anyone else seen this
problem and have any idea how to fix it?  I realize this isn't a Freevo
issue, but I'm hoping someone has a solution.  I have tried 3 different
video cards, 2 TV's and 4 cables so I'm not sure what the heck is going on.

Thanks

Andrew



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RE: [Freevo-users] tv-out issues.

2004-03-11 Thread Jon Reynolds
On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 16:01, Andrew Dumaresq wrote:
 I thought maybe I should mention my hardware config :)
 
 Currently using an Nvidia Geforce 4 MX440, Intel 2.4 Hyper Threading 800
 Bus, running on 865 Intel chipset.  I have a Wintv PVR-250, 2 Sata 80 gig
 Seagate drives and 512megs of ram.  I'm using the nvidia binary driver, 4363
 but I've tried a bunch of versions and the open source driver but none of
 that makes any difference. The Kernel is 2.6.3 but I had the same problem
 with 2.4.25 so I don't think that's the problem.  The distribution is Gentoo
 and I'm using the current CVS version of Freevo.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew
 Dumaresq
 Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 8:47 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Freevo-users] tv-out issues.
 
 Ok I have a problem with the output on my TV, the screen is wider at the
 bottom, than at the top, and basically if I turn of TVOverScan the black bar
 on the right hand side is larger at the top.  Has anyone else seen this
 problem and have any idea how to fix it?  I realize this isn't a Freevo
 issue, but I'm hoping someone has a solution.  I have tried 3 different
 video cards, 2 TV's and 4 cables so I'm not sure what the heck is going on.
 
 Thanks
 
 Andrew
 
 
Hey Andrew, give nvtv a try, someone answered me with that and I can now
overscan my card to fill the entire screen. Also, are you saying it's TV
viewing or ripped video files? If the latter I have the same problem but
live with it because of how the movie was recorded. i.e. wide screen
format.

Jon



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RE: [Freevo-users] tv-out issues.

2004-03-11 Thread Andrew Dumaresq
I can make the black bars go away... but the screen is still not straight
and nvtv doesn't work with Geforce4s with the nvidia tvout chip, only the
older cards.  (Segfaults).


I did try nvtv with my Geforce3 and that didn't help me any. The screen was
still not straight even when I used nvtv to cause it to fill the whole
screen.


Also it happens before I do any media playback (one example of where it's
very noticeable is in the tv-guide part of freevo).

Here are some screen shots of what I'm talking about:

Overscan on:
http://www.dumaresq.ca/tv.jpg

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Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 9:31 PM
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Subject: RE: [Freevo-users] tv-out issues.

On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 16:01, Andrew Dumaresq wrote:
 I thought maybe I should mention my hardware config :)
 
 Currently using an Nvidia Geforce 4 MX440, Intel 2.4 Hyper Threading 800
 Bus, running on 865 Intel chipset.  I have a Wintv PVR-250, 2 Sata 80 gig
 Seagate drives and 512megs of ram.  I'm using the nvidia binary driver,
4363
 but I've tried a bunch of versions and the open source driver but none of
 that makes any difference. The Kernel is 2.6.3 but I had the same problem
 with 2.4.25 so I don't think that's the problem.  The distribution is
Gentoo
 and I'm using the current CVS version of Freevo.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew
 Dumaresq
 Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 8:47 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Freevo-users] tv-out issues.
 
 Ok I have a problem with the output on my TV, the screen is wider at the
 bottom, than at the top, and basically if I turn of TVOverScan the black
bar
 on the right hand side is larger at the top.  Has anyone else seen this
 problem and have any idea how to fix it?  I realize this isn't a Freevo
 issue, but I'm hoping someone has a solution.  I have tried 3 different
 video cards, 2 TV's and 4 cables so I'm not sure what the heck is going
on.
 
 Thanks
 
 Andrew
 
 
Hey Andrew, give nvtv a try, someone answered me with that and I can now
overscan my card to fill the entire screen. Also, are you saying it's TV
viewing or ripped video files? If the latter I have the same problem but
live with it because of how the movie was recorded. i.e. wide screen
format.

Jon



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