Re: [FRIAM] Google's Graveyard

2015-02-05 Thread Arlo Barnes
The desktop thingy was OK, and Wave looked promising, but really the only
one I cared about was Sidewiki.
-Arlo James Barnes

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Re: [FRIAM] Google's Graveyard

2015-02-05 Thread glen
On 02/04/2015 04:18 PM, Owen Densmore wrote:
> Love this tweet:

I'm really glad Google is so performance based in its product strategy.  It's a 
far cry from wasteful and obsolete old school practices that pour lots of 
resources into a narrow channel, artificially maintaining zombie products.  It 
seems akin to evolution, actually.  "The master has failed more times than the 
beginner has even tried."

It also seems to reflect a new sense of the C2B relationship.  The rejection of 
brand loyalty was a hallmark of GenX.  Then the millenials made it fundamental 
to their ethos, even defining character by it. (Anyone wearing, say, a 
Coca-Cola branded product must be a tool... unless the irony is obvious... like 
a tattooed stick-boy wearing a CAT cap.)  These days, anyone who openly or 
obviously _relies_ on a corporate product is (culturally, at least) an 
anachronism.  This is the heart of the reactionary criticism of, say, Occupy 
protesters relying so much on Apple products.

-- 
⇒⇐ glen e. p. ropella
I spend 'em as fast as they come



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Re: [FRIAM] Google's Graveyard

2015-02-05 Thread Nick Thompson
Yep! Eat my Wheaties every morning. [sign me]

Of The Silent Generation

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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On 02/04/2015 04:18 PM, Owen Densmore wrote:
> Love this tweet:

I'm really glad Google is so performance based in its product strategy.  It's a 
far cry from wasteful and obsolete old school practices that pour lots of 
resources into a narrow channel, artificially maintaining zombie products.  It 
seems akin to evolution, actually.  "The master has failed more times than the 
beginner has even tried."

It also seems to reflect a new sense of the C2B relationship.  The rejection of 
brand loyalty was a hallmark of GenX.  Then the millenials made it fundamental 
to their ethos, even defining character by it. (Anyone wearing, say, a 
Coca-Cola branded product must be a tool... unless the irony is obvious... like 
a tattooed stick-boy wearing a CAT cap.)  These days, anyone who openly or 
obviously _relies_ on a corporate product is (culturally, at least) an 
anachronism.  This is the heart of the reactionary criticism of, say, Occupy 
protesters relying so much on Apple products.

-- 
⇒⇐ glen e. p. ropella
I spend 'em as fast as they come



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Re: [FRIAM] Google's Graveyard

2015-02-05 Thread Owen Densmore
It's only fair to say the google ecology is converging to some degree and
is pretty useful.  I did find the fail of their RSS reader problematic.

OTOH: I find myself unwilling to rely on several of their products,
preferring others that I think will last. Dropbox, for example for sync'ed
storage rather than Google Drive.  I guess I find Google schizophrenic.

Apple has a similar issue, but based on failures of the past rather than
simply dropping services.  My guess iCloud will work, after the failures of
their prior attempts.  But I won't rely on it.

   -- Owen

On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Nick Thompson 
wrote:

> Yep! Eat my Wheaties every morning. [sign me]
>
> Of The Silent Generation
>
> Nicholas S. Thompson
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
> Clark University
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of glen
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 9:21 AM
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Google's Graveyard
>
> On 02/04/2015 04:18 PM, Owen Densmore wrote:
> > Love this tweet:
>
> I'm really glad Google is so performance based in its product strategy.
> It's a far cry from wasteful and obsolete old school practices that pour
> lots of resources into a narrow channel, artificially maintaining zombie
> products.  It seems akin to evolution, actually.  "The master has failed
> more times than the beginner has even tried."
>
> It also seems to reflect a new sense of the C2B relationship.  The
> rejection of brand loyalty was a hallmark of GenX.  Then the millenials
> made it fundamental to their ethos, even defining character by it. (Anyone
> wearing, say, a Coca-Cola branded product must be a tool... unless the
> irony is obvious... like a tattooed stick-boy wearing a CAT cap.)  These
> days, anyone who openly or obviously _relies_ on a corporate product is
> (culturally, at least) an anachronism.  This is the heart of the
> reactionary criticism of, say, Occupy protesters relying so much on Apple
> products.
>
> --
> ⇒⇐ glen e. p. ropella
> I spend 'em as fast as they come
>
>
> 
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Re: [FRIAM] Google's Graveyard

2015-02-05 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Google's products are highly intrusive. Whenever I use them I feel as
though I'm a lab rat in somebody's experiment.
http://www.google.com/policies/privacy/

On 2/5/15, Owen Densmore  wrote:
> It's only fair to say the google ecology is converging to some degree and
> is pretty useful.  I did find the fail of their RSS reader problematic.
>
> OTOH: I find myself unwilling to rely on several of their products,
> preferring others that I think will last. Dropbox, for example for sync'ed
> storage rather than Google Drive.  I guess I find Google schizophrenic.
>
> Apple has a similar issue, but based on failures of the past rather than
> simply dropping services.  My guess iCloud will work, after the failures of
> their prior attempts.  But I won't rely on it.
>
>-- Owen
>


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