they can
on occasion be overridden and save ourselves from foolish disaster. Why do
we immerse ourselves in other peoples narratives and take such pleasure ?
Our elusive topic with No Name may be different for many of us. However it
appears we all react in some way and then "Move On " to more controlled
disciplined areas. Why is "Moving On "such a current mantra? Where do we
hope to go by abandoning a topic? What are we avoiding? Why do we every few
weeks resurrect this Golem ?
Considering the close association with science and arts why so little faith
in rambling over the heather? What have we got to lose?
Let us start by trying to discover what the participants feel is the hidden
topic, call it the search for the Nameless.
Personally I am currently struggling with a 3D animation of mathematical
functions. The pieces are all basically assembled but for some reason I
struggle with the "Narrative"; it is basically text free. A new deviation
for me. The images must be sequenced correctly to transfer the desired
intent, but my intent seems elusive as I look in detail. A multi body
system is a challenge for me. I have learned that it requires better
understanding of my own thinking and visualization and that has become my
issue with myself. I find that I am rarely sure of whether this is ever
exactly as I envisioned or is it what I have decided is expedient. The
struggle is with the way the brain appears to require guidance or it
erroneously or randomly fills in gaps in seamless manner where there was
insufficient data. It has become apparent that what I seek to do requires
some insight as to how my brain and that of the audience deceives itself it
to believing what is not actually present. Perhaps as with the written
native there is a way to constrain the recipients brain from inventing
monstrous explanations. I also wonder if there is any mechanism for
distinguishing the fabricated understanding from the actual perceived facts.
But this does appear much like the problem with optical illusions. We can
never quite convince ourselves to disregard our own delusions. The search
for the clues by which a brain stiches perceptions together into a narrative
is entirely new to me. And all I was trying to do was design some new
machinery.
I am staggered by the Off Topic area, fortunately it was a wondrous fishing
trip. I have discovered much That I had no idea existed. There is something
about this journey that leads me to study philosophy and psychology which
never interested me previously. Keep some of the fences in place if they
serve a function but clearly something is lurking in many minds and I just
sincerely hope it is not some new mystical foolishness.
Each of us has been confined to some region of human specialization and like
chickens released from our pens , by a wind storm we are now discovering a
new world beyond the knocked down fences.
Vladimyr Ivan Burachynsky PhD
vbur...@shaw.ca
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Winnipeg,Manitoba, R2J3R2
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-Original Message-
From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf
Of Steve Smith
Sent: May-04-11 2:01 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: [FRIAM] Memetic Drift in Threads, was: off topic., but still
On reflection of Owen's thread hygiene around hijacking, etc., I have to
wonder about the implications of what I want to call "memetic drift".
We start with a topic, and at some point it has wandered enough to qualify
for a new subject... but it is not always obvious when it deserved a new
Subject: line.
I believe I am as guilty as most for this form of slow hijacking... the
vehicle (thread) is not abruptly taken by force and driven off in some
totally different direction than it's original route plan suggested, instead
it is seduced iteratively into taking us to Havana.
To stretch the metaphor from hijacking to kidnapping, are we all the Patty
Hearsts of our own discussions?
- Steve
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