[FRIAM] Peacocks, Clowns and now Squirrels

2013-11-19 Thread Steve Smith

Just to continue the riff at Josh's expense this time.

   https://www.grc.com/sqrl/sqrl.htm

   a little more high level: http://www.sqrl.pl/

I don't trust Squirrels anymore than Zuchinnis, Peacocks, and Clowns.  
They not only appear in your back seat without warning but mine also 
like to eat the wires in my vehicles.I think I need to start a feral 
cat colony and habituate them to attack Clowns.  Squirrels are already 
in their DNA... I don't know WHAT to do about the Zuchinnis and 
Peacocks... maybe Doug and Nick know how to handle those.


-Steve


Now that you mention it I do see a peacock almost ever time I go 
through Nambe.


Cody Smith
It's the same one, and he's got his eye on YOU!  Peacocks are almost 
as creepy as clowns.  Remember that next time you go through Nambe.


Stop in and visit Doug... but lock your doors... that Peacock may let 
himself into your back seat!  And don't stop for clown-hitchikers 
either.  They are everywhere once you are attuned to seeing them!



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[FRIAM] Peacocks, Clowns and now Squirrels

2013-11-19 Thread Steve Smith

Ray -
A similar flock has been free-ranging the Albuquerque valley area near 
Broadway and Montano. 
I don't think I ever make it down that way.  I'm always heartened to see 
a little wild in the city.
 Some friends of mine whose property is roamed got married some years 
ago and they had a wedding dinner featuring roast peacock. It's a 
little greasy, like duck, and tastes somewhere between duck and goose.
And free-range, if not (almost surely) organic to boot!   I've always 
wondered what the rules about harvesting feral animals might be...   
especially in a city.  Is that NM FishGame rules or Bernalillo country 
Animal Control purview?  My Appalachy ancestors loved their squirrel and 
possum (not feral but verminish).   I assume that the last generation's 
homeless (aka Hobos) fed off of anything they could catch (pigeons, 
rats, ???) with gusto while today I suspect most of us would starve to 
death while pigeons shat upon us and rats tugged at our leather 
shoes/belts while we slept.
When I first moved into Corrales, there were several flocks of guinea 
hens that migrated north-south twice-daily across the generally 
east-west properties.  Those were the remnant of a flock released when 
a local farmer failed to make any money raising them.
We had 3 (remaining of 4 after an Owl snagged one) Geese and 8 chickens 
when we gave them up to move to Berkeley in 2005.  I was amazed that 
both, raised from chicks/goslings were happy to remain within our 
property boundaries (how do they recognize a barbed wire fence as a 
boundary?) as a matter of course.   Maybe they recognized the territory 
of our dog (who also for the most part respected the same boundaries) as 
being (mostly) coyote free? I suppose that Pea and Guinea fowl are 
probably much closer to wild and of course water birds are going to 
stay close/return to their water.
I would expect that there has not been sufficient time for real 
genetic variations to develop in any of these isolated communities.
If I'm right about the timeline of the Nambe Peacocks, it seems like an 
isolated and relatively small community of order 100 generations with no 
(or few?) introductions and no (or little) human intervention (except as 
patrons)?


- Steve



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Re: [FRIAM] Peacocks, Clowns and now Squirrels

2013-11-19 Thread cody dooderson
How can you be sure that it's the same peacock in Nambe?

Cody Smith


On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Steve Smith sasm...@swcp.com wrote:

 Ray -

 A similar flock has been free-ranging the Albuquerque valley area near
 Broadway and Montano.

 I don't think I ever make it down that way.  I'm always heartened to see a
 little wild in the city.

  Some friends of mine whose property is roamed got married some years ago
 and they had a wedding dinner featuring roast peacock. It's a little
 greasy, like duck, and tastes somewhere between duck and goose.

 And free-range, if not (almost surely) organic to boot!   I've always
 wondered what the rules about harvesting feral animals might be...
 especially in a city.  Is that NM FishGame rules or Bernalillo country
 Animal Control purview?  My Appalachy ancestors loved their squirrel and
 possum (not feral but verminish).   I assume that the last generation's
 homeless (aka Hobos) fed off of anything they could catch (pigeons, rats,
 ???) with gusto while today I suspect most of us would starve to death
 while pigeons shat upon us and rats tugged at our leather shoes/belts while
 we slept.

 When I first moved into Corrales, there were several flocks of guinea
 hens that migrated north-south twice-daily across the generally east-west
 properties.  Those were the remnant of a flock released when a local farmer
 failed to make any money raising them.

 We had 3 (remaining of 4 after an Owl snagged one) Geese and 8 chickens
 when we gave them up to move to Berkeley in 2005.  I was amazed that both,
 raised from chicks/goslings were happy to remain within our property
 boundaries (how do they recognize a barbed wire fence as a boundary?) as a
 matter of course.   Maybe they recognized the territory of our dog (who
 also for the most part respected the same boundaries) as being (mostly)
 coyote free? I suppose that Pea and Guinea fowl are probably much
 closer to wild and of course water birds are going to stay close/return
 to their water.

 I would expect that there has not been sufficient time for real genetic
 variations to develop in any of these isolated communities.

 If I'm right about the timeline of the Nambe Peacocks, it seems like an
 isolated and relatively small community of order 100 generations with no
 (or few?) introductions and no (or little) human intervention (except as
 patrons)?

 - Steve



 
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