Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage

2016-08-04 Thread Gillian Densmore
@Nick Did you mana to find what's eating  data?
I don't know how you usually use the internet,

Basically when you use a cellphone for internet (totally fine) you start at
 Warp2 , then pretty quickly get nocked down to about Warp 0.5

Google's Chrome for FRIAM emailing (for instance) eh they don't care about
that.

Watching Game of Thrones on Google Chrome through your Cell company they
think is amusing and fine

On the other hand playing WarCraft over your phone, or as I just found out
getting some Nordic music and Klingon style music for a KFA  vacation they
say is fine but now you're down to about  Warp 0.5


Skype has a rep for not actually going away when you tell it to quit to as
well

Windows 10 also does updates even when you ask it to let you know if a
update is coming. For those of us on DSL those patches eat all the
available space on the tube (GRR)




On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Nick Thompson 
wrote:

> Thanks, Sarbajit,
>
>
>
> The task manager is really interesting.  I caught Skype using my computer
> for “housekeeping” some years back, which it turns out, I had agreed to let
> them do.  Oh that fine print.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Nick
>
>
>
> Nicholas S. Thompson
>
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>
> Clark University
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>
>
>
> *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Sarbajit
> Roy
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 02, 2016 12:41 AM
>
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam@redfish.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage
>
>
>
> Hi Nick
>
> I guess you want to identify the sites / processes on your Win-7 PC which
> are hogging your bandwidth.
>
> You will have to use the aptly named Win-7 "Task Manager" for this which
> is accessed by pressing the "Ctrl-Alt-Del" keys simultaneously.
>
> After "Starting the Task Manager", click the "Performance" button (on
> top), this will give you access to the "Resource Monitor" button (bottom
> right hand). Click.
>
> Then click "Network" on top. 
>
> Using this tool, I was able to establish (sufficiently for my own
> intellectual satisfaction) that Google, in India, was secretly "stealing"
> (or utilising) the bandwidth and drives of users with high-speed
> connections for 'peering' which was making their services faster than their
> competitors.
>
> Sarbajit
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 2:18 AM, Nick Thompson 
> wrote:
>
> Owen,
>
>
>
> “Civilian,” it is.  How could I forget!  Dede is of course, right, in
> this, as in all matters.  Still, I would rather be a “civilian” than a
> “noob”.  Gosh.  What IS a noob?
>
>
>
> I am of the view that we are all civilians with respect to any software
> that we did not use yesterday, or perhaps the day before.  Each of us has
> SOME LITTLE THING to teach each of the others, about technology.   I, for
> instance, know about Elevated Mixed Layers.
>
>
>
> Take care, my friend.
>
>
>
> Nick
>
>
>
> Nicholas S. Thompson
>
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>
> Clark University
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>
>
>
> *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Owen
> Densmore
> *Sent:* Monday, August 01, 2016 11:20 AM
>
>
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam@redfish.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage
>
>
>
> Civilian. And Dede convinced me to no longer use the term. It was a Silly
> Vally way to describe a noob. Or worse! :)
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Nick Thompson 
> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Joe,
>
>
>
> Yes.  HP Win7 PC, for my sins.
>
>
>
> There are a couple of things that may do it … Glasswire being the most
> promising.
>
>
>
> Being what Owen calls a “citizen”, I am very slow to download exe’s on
> spec.  Until I get desperate. I don’t like to be the first penguin off the
> floe.
>
>
>
> Nick
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Nicholas S. Thompson
>
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>
> Clark University
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>
>
>
> *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Joe
> Spinden
> *Sent:* Monday, August 01, 2016 9:00 AM
>
>
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam@redfish.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage
>

Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage

2016-08-03 Thread Nick Thompson
Thanks, Sarbajit, 

 

The task manager is really interesting.  I caught Skype using my computer for 
“housekeeping” some years back, which it turns out, I had agreed to let them 
do.  Oh that fine print. 

 

Thanks, 

 

Nick 

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

 <http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/> 
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 12:41 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage

 

Hi Nick

I guess you want to identify the sites / processes on your Win-7 PC which are 
hogging your bandwidth.

You will have to use the aptly named Win-7 "Task Manager" for this which is 
accessed by pressing the "Ctrl-Alt-Del" keys simultaneously.

After "Starting the Task Manager", click the "Performance" button (on top), 
this will give you access to the "Resource Monitor" button (bottom right hand). 
Click.

Then click "Network" on top.  

Using this tool, I was able to establish (sufficiently for my own intellectual 
satisfaction) that Google, in India, was secretly "stealing" (or utilising) the 
bandwidth and drives of users with high-speed connections for 'peering' which 
was making their services faster than their competitors.

Sarbajit

 

 





 

 

On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 2:18 AM, Nick Thompson mailto:nickthomp...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

Owen, 

 

“Civilian,” it is.  How could I forget!  Dede is of course, right, in this, as 
in all matters.  Still, I would rather be a “civilian” than a “noob”.  Gosh.  
What IS a noob? 

 

I am of the view that we are all civilians with respect to any software that we 
did not use yesterday, or perhaps the day before.  Each of us has SOME LITTLE 
THING to teach each of the others, about technology.   I, for instance, know 
about Elevated Mixed Layers.  

 

Take care, my friend. 

 

Nick 

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

 <http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/> 
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com 
<mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com> ] On Behalf Of Owen Densmore
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:20 AM


To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group mailto:friam@redfish.com> >
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage

 

Civilian. And Dede convinced me to no longer use the term. It was a Silly Vally 
way to describe a noob. Or worse! :)

 

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Nick Thompson mailto:nickthomp...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

Thanks, Joe, 

 

Yes.  HP Win7 PC, for my sins. 

 

There are a couple of things that may do it … Glasswire being the most 
promising.  

 

Being what Owen calls a “citizen”, I am very slow to download exe’s on spec.  
Until I get desperate. I don’t like to be the first penguin off the floe.  

 

Nick 

 

 

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

 <http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/> 
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com 
<mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com> ] On Behalf Of Joe Spinden
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:00 AM


To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group mailto:friam@redfish.com> >
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage

 

Nick,

I assume you use a Windows system ? On a Mac you can look at the System Monitor 
to get information which seems to be what you are looking for.  Perhaps others 
here can suggest a similar program on a Windows system.

Joe

 

On 7/31/16 11:34 PM, Nick Thompson wrote:

Hi, Sarbajit, 

 

Thanks for the tip.  I studied on it for a bit and think it isn’t designed to 
do what I most need to have done.  It would tell me if my problem is, say, HP 
updates, or Firefox websites.  But, unless I am wrong, it won’t tell me which 
of the websites I am contacting is doing the dirty.  For instance, I spend a 
lot of time looking at animated radar displays?  They are only ten frames long, 
and don’t seem very “verbose”, how can I tell for sure..  Perhaps by logging my 
activities by hand and then using the time logging feature of Neworx I might 
figure it out.Ideally, the program I am looking for would give me the 
amount of data used up for each website contacted.  Given the rarity of the 
problem, the software probably doesn’t exist.  

 

Anyway, thanks for the suggestion.  I will explore it more closely tomorrow. 

 

Nick 

 

 

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

 <http://home.earthlink.net/%7Enickthompson/naturaldesigns/> 
http://home.earthlink.net/~ni

Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage

2016-08-01 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Hi Nick

I guess you want to identify the sites / processes on your Win-7 PC which
are hogging your bandwidth.

You will have to use the aptly named Win-7 "Task Manager" for this which is
accessed by pressing the "Ctrl-Alt-Del" keys simultaneously.

After "Starting the Task Manager", click the "Performance" button (on top),
this will give you access to the "Resource Monitor" button (bottom right
hand). Click.

Then click "Network" on top. 

Using this tool, I was able to establish (sufficiently for my own
intellectual satisfaction) that Google, in India, was secretly "stealing"
(or utilising) the bandwidth and drives of users with high-speed
connections for 'peering' which was making their services faster than their
competitors.

Sarbajit








On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 2:18 AM, Nick Thompson 
wrote:

> Owen,
>
>
>
> “Civilian,” it is.  How could I forget!  Dede is of course, right, in
> this, as in all matters.  Still, I would rather be a “civilian” than a
> “noob”.  Gosh.  What IS a noob?
>
>
>
> I am of the view that we are all civilians with respect to any software
> that we did not use yesterday, or perhaps the day before.  Each of us has
> SOME LITTLE THING to teach each of the others, about technology.   I, for
> instance, know about Elevated Mixed Layers.
>
>
>
> Take care, my friend.
>
>
>
> Nick
>
>
>
> Nicholas S. Thompson
>
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>
> Clark University
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>
>
>
> *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Owen
> Densmore
> *Sent:* Monday, August 01, 2016 11:20 AM
>
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam@redfish.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage
>
>
>
> Civilian. And Dede convinced me to no longer use the term. It was a Silly
> Vally way to describe a noob. Or worse! :)
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Nick Thompson 
> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Joe,
>
>
>
> Yes.  HP Win7 PC, for my sins.
>
>
>
> There are a couple of things that may do it … Glasswire being the most
> promising.
>
>
>
> Being what Owen calls a “citizen”, I am very slow to download exe’s on
> spec.  Until I get desperate. I don’t like to be the first penguin off the
> floe.
>
>
>
> Nick
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Nicholas S. Thompson
>
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>
> Clark University
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>
>
>
> *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Joe
> Spinden
> *Sent:* Monday, August 01, 2016 9:00 AM
>
>
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam@redfish.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage
>
>
>
> Nick,
>
> I assume you use a Windows system ? On a Mac you can look at the System
> Monitor to get information which seems to be what you are looking for.
> Perhaps others here can suggest a similar program on a Windows system.
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> On 7/31/16 11:34 PM, Nick Thompson wrote:
>
> Hi, Sarbajit,
>
>
>
> Thanks for the tip.  I studied on it for a bit and think it isn’t designed
> to do what I most need to have done.  It would tell me if my problem is,
> say, HP updates, or Firefox websites.  But, unless I am wrong, it won’t
> tell me which of the websites I am contacting is doing the dirty.  For
> instance, I spend a lot of time looking at animated radar displays?  They
> are only ten frames long, and don’t seem very “verbose”, how can I tell for
> sure..  Perhaps by logging my activities by hand and then using the time
> logging feature of Neworx I might figure it out.Ideally, the program I
> am looking for would give me the amount of data used up for each website
> contacted.  Given the rarity of the problem, the software probably doesn’t
> exist.
>
>
>
> Anyway, thanks for the suggestion.  I will explore it more closely
> tomorrow.
>
>
>
> Nick
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Nicholas S. Thompson
>
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>
> Clark University
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>
>
>
> *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Sarbajit Roy
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:35 PM
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
>  
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage
>
>
>
> Try Networx
> https://www.softperfect.com/products/networx/manual/
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 6:55 AM,

Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage

2016-08-01 Thread Gillian Densmore
Hail Nick!
Ah I see you have met one of the many  Dwarfs of a Above Average Phone!
On my Android I ask it to yell realy loudly. When it yells realy real
loudly (uses WIFI) mine doesn't use data.
May haps that's one option

If your house there has (regular) internet that might work.

Else you'll be talking to Veri Zone



On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 2:48 PM, Nick Thompson 
wrote:

> Owen,
>
>
>
> “Civilian,” it is.  How could I forget!  Dede is of course, right, in
> this, as in all matters.  Still, I would rather be a “civilian” than a
> “noob”.  Gosh.  What IS a noob?
>
>
>
> I am of the view that we are all civilians with respect to any software
> that we did not use yesterday, or perhaps the day before.  Each of us has
> SOME LITTLE THING to teach each of the others, about technology.   I, for
> instance, know about Elevated Mixed Layers.
>
>
>
> Take care, my friend.
>
>
>
> Nick
>
>
>
> Nicholas S. Thompson
>
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>
> Clark University
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>
>
>
> *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Owen
> Densmore
> *Sent:* Monday, August 01, 2016 11:20 AM
>
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam@redfish.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage
>
>
>
> Civilian. And Dede convinced me to no longer use the term. It was a Silly
> Vally way to describe a noob. Or worse! :)
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Nick Thompson 
> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Joe,
>
>
>
> Yes.  HP Win7 PC, for my sins.
>
>
>
> There are a couple of things that may do it … Glasswire being the most
> promising.
>
>
>
> Being what Owen calls a “citizen”, I am very slow to download exe’s on
> spec.  Until I get desperate. I don’t like to be the first penguin off the
> floe.
>
>
>
> Nick
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Nicholas S. Thompson
>
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>
> Clark University
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>
>
>
> *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Joe
> Spinden
> *Sent:* Monday, August 01, 2016 9:00 AM
>
>
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam@redfish.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage
>
>
>
> Nick,
>
> I assume you use a Windows system ? On a Mac you can look at the System
> Monitor to get information which seems to be what you are looking for.
> Perhaps others here can suggest a similar program on a Windows system.
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> On 7/31/16 11:34 PM, Nick Thompson wrote:
>
> Hi, Sarbajit,
>
>
>
> Thanks for the tip.  I studied on it for a bit and think it isn’t designed
> to do what I most need to have done.  It would tell me if my problem is,
> say, HP updates, or Firefox websites.  But, unless I am wrong, it won’t
> tell me which of the websites I am contacting is doing the dirty.  For
> instance, I spend a lot of time looking at animated radar displays?  They
> are only ten frames long, and don’t seem very “verbose”, how can I tell for
> sure..  Perhaps by logging my activities by hand and then using the time
> logging feature of Neworx I might figure it out.Ideally, the program I
> am looking for would give me the amount of data used up for each website
> contacted.  Given the rarity of the problem, the software probably doesn’t
> exist.
>
>
>
> Anyway, thanks for the suggestion.  I will explore it more closely
> tomorrow.
>
>
>
> Nick
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Nicholas S. Thompson
>
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>
> Clark University
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>
>
>
> *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Sarbajit Roy
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:35 PM
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
>  
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage
>
>
>
> Try Networx
> https://www.softperfect.com/products/networx/manual/
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 6:55 AM, Nick Thompson 
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> You will recall that when I am in Massachusetts, I get all of my internet
> over a Verizon hotspot.  It a bit like eating lunch with a shark.  Every
> once in while you find out that you’re missing part of your arm.   So, I
> have been looking around on the web for an app which will tell me which one
> of my activities … podcasts, websites, upgrades, updates, etc. … is using
> up data.   Now, I figure, being pros, most o

Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage

2016-08-01 Thread Nick Thompson
Owen, 

 

“Civilian,” it is.  How could I forget!  Dede is of course, right, in this, as 
in all matters.  Still, I would rather be a “civilian” than a “noob”.  Gosh.  
What IS a noob? 

 

I am of the view that we are all civilians with respect to any software that we 
did not use yesterday, or perhaps the day before.  Each of us has SOME LITTLE 
THING to teach each of the others, about technology.   I, for instance, know 
about Elevated Mixed Layers.  

 

Take care, my friend. 

 

Nick 

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

 <http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/> 
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Owen Densmore
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:20 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage

 

Civilian. And Dede convinced me to no longer use the term. It was a Silly Vally 
way to describe a noob. Or worse! :)

 

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Nick Thompson mailto:nickthomp...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

Thanks, Joe, 

 

Yes.  HP Win7 PC, for my sins. 

 

There are a couple of things that may do it … Glasswire being the most 
promising.  

 

Being what Owen calls a “citizen”, I am very slow to download exe’s on spec.  
Until I get desperate. I don’t like to be the first penguin off the floe.  

 

Nick 

 

 

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

 <http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/> 
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com 
<mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com> ] On Behalf Of Joe Spinden
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:00 AM


To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group mailto:friam@redfish.com> >
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage

 

Nick,

I assume you use a Windows system ? On a Mac you can look at the System Monitor 
to get information which seems to be what you are looking for.  Perhaps others 
here can suggest a similar program on a Windows system.

Joe

 

On 7/31/16 11:34 PM, Nick Thompson wrote:

Hi, Sarbajit, 

 

Thanks for the tip.  I studied on it for a bit and think it isn’t designed to 
do what I most need to have done.  It would tell me if my problem is, say, HP 
updates, or Firefox websites.  But, unless I am wrong, it won’t tell me which 
of the websites I am contacting is doing the dirty.  For instance, I spend a 
lot of time looking at animated radar displays?  They are only ten frames long, 
and don’t seem very “verbose”, how can I tell for sure..  Perhaps by logging my 
activities by hand and then using the time logging feature of Neworx I might 
figure it out.Ideally, the program I am looking for would give me the 
amount of data used up for each website contacted.  Given the rarity of the 
problem, the software probably doesn’t exist.  

 

Anyway, thanks for the suggestion.  I will explore it more closely tomorrow. 

 

Nick 

 

 

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

 <http://home.earthlink.net/%7Enickthompson/naturaldesigns/> 
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:35 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group  
<mailto:friam@redfish.com> 
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage

 

Try Networx
https://www.softperfect.com/products/networx/manual/

 

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 6:55 AM, Nick Thompson mailto:nickthomp...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

Hi, 

 

You will recall that when I am in Massachusetts, I get all of my internet over 
a Verizon hotspot.  It a bit like eating lunch with a shark.  Every once in 
while you find out that you’re missing part of your arm.   So, I have been 
looking around on the web for an app which will tell me which one of my 
activities … podcasts, websites, upgrades, updates, etc. … is using up data.   
Now, I figure, being pros, most of you, you all live in places that have 
unmetered broad band.  So I don’t expect many of you to share my problem.  But 
perhaps one of you has?  There are several apps that seem perhaps to be 
relevant.  One is “Glasswire”.  Is anybody familiar with it?  

 

I hope you are all summering well. 

 

Nick 

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ 
<http://home.earthlink.net/%7Enickthompson/naturaldesigns/> 

 



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Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage

2016-08-01 Thread Owen Densmore
Civilian. And Dede convinced me to no longer use the term. It was a Silly
Vally way to describe a noob. Or worse! :)

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Nick Thompson 
wrote:

> Thanks, Joe,
>
>
>
> Yes.  HP Win7 PC, for my sins.
>
>
>
> There are a couple of things that may do it … Glasswire being the most
> promising.
>
>
>
> Being what Owen calls a “citizen”, I am very slow to download exe’s on
> spec.  Until I get desperate. I don’t like to be the first penguin off the
> floe.
>
>
>
> Nick
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Nicholas S. Thompson
>
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>
> Clark University
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>
>
>
> *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Joe
> Spinden
> *Sent:* Monday, August 01, 2016 9:00 AM
>
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam@redfish.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage
>
>
>
> Nick,
>
> I assume you use a Windows system ? On a Mac you can look at the System
> Monitor to get information which seems to be what you are looking for.
> Perhaps others here can suggest a similar program on a Windows system.
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> On 7/31/16 11:34 PM, Nick Thompson wrote:
>
> Hi, Sarbajit,
>
>
>
> Thanks for the tip.  I studied on it for a bit and think it isn’t designed
> to do what I most need to have done.  It would tell me if my problem is,
> say, HP updates, or Firefox websites.  But, unless I am wrong, it won’t
> tell me which of the websites I am contacting is doing the dirty.  For
> instance, I spend a lot of time looking at animated radar displays?  They
> are only ten frames long, and don’t seem very “verbose”, how can I tell for
> sure..  Perhaps by logging my activities by hand and then using the time
> logging feature of Neworx I might figure it out.Ideally, the program I
> am looking for would give me the amount of data used up for each website
> contacted.  Given the rarity of the problem, the software probably doesn’t
> exist.
>
>
>
> Anyway, thanks for the suggestion.  I will explore it more closely
> tomorrow.
>
>
>
> Nick
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Nicholas S. Thompson
>
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>
> Clark University
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>
>
>
> *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Sarbajit Roy
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:35 PM
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
>  
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage
>
>
>
> Try Networx
> https://www.softperfect.com/products/networx/manual/
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 6:55 AM, Nick Thompson 
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> You will recall that when I am in Massachusetts, I get all of my internet
> over a Verizon hotspot.  It a bit like eating lunch with a shark.  Every
> once in while you find out that you’re missing part of your arm.   So, I
> have been looking around on the web for an app which will tell me which one
> of my activities … podcasts, websites, upgrades, updates, etc. … is using
> up data.   Now, I figure, being pros, most of you, you all live in places
> that have unmetered broad band.  So I don’t expect many of you to share my
> problem.  But perhaps one of you has?  There are several apps that seem
> perhaps to be relevant.  One is “Glasswire”.  Is anybody familiar with it?
>
>
>
> I hope you are all summering well.
>
>
>
> Nick
>
>
>
> Nicholas S. Thompson
>
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>
> Clark University
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>
>
>
>
> 
> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv
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Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage

2016-08-01 Thread Nick Thompson
Thanks, Joe, 

 

Yes.  HP Win7 PC, for my sins. 

 

There are a couple of things that may do it . Glasswire being the most
promising.  

 

Being what Owen calls a "citizen", I am very slow to download exe's on spec.
Until I get desperate. I don't like to be the first penguin off the floe.  

 

Nick 

 

 

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

 <http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/>
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Joe Spinden
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:00 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage

 

Nick,

I assume you use a Windows system ? On a Mac you can look at the System
Monitor to get information which seems to be what you are looking for.
Perhaps others here can suggest a similar program on a Windows system.

Joe

 

On 7/31/16 11:34 PM, Nick Thompson wrote:

Hi, Sarbajit, 

 

Thanks for the tip.  I studied on it for a bit and think it isn't designed
to do what I most need to have done.  It would tell me if my problem is,
say, HP updates, or Firefox websites.  But, unless I am wrong, it won't tell
me which of the websites I am contacting is doing the dirty.  For instance,
I spend a lot of time looking at animated radar displays?  They are only ten
frames long, and don't seem very "verbose", how can I tell for sure..
Perhaps by logging my activities by hand and then using the time logging
feature of Neworx I might figure it out.Ideally, the program I am
looking for would give me the amount of data used up for each website
contacted.  Given the rarity of the problem, the software probably doesn't
exist.  

 

Anyway, thanks for the suggestion.  I will explore it more closely tomorrow.


 

Nick 

 

 

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

 <http://home.earthlink.net/%7Enickthompson/naturaldesigns/>
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:35 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
<mailto:friam@redfish.com> 
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage

 

Try Networx
https://www.softperfect.com/products/networx/manual/

 

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 6:55 AM, Nick Thompson mailto:nickthomp...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

Hi, 

 

You will recall that when I am in Massachusetts, I get all of my internet
over a Verizon hotspot.  It a bit like eating lunch with a shark.  Every
once in while you find out that you're missing part of your arm.   So, I
have been looking around on the web for an app which will tell me which one
of my activities . podcasts, websites, upgrades, updates, etc. . is using up
data.   Now, I figure, being pros, most of you, you all live in places that
have unmetered broad band.  So I don't expect many of you to share my
problem.  But perhaps one of you has?  There are several apps that seem
perhaps to be relevant.  One is "Glasswire".  Is anybody familiar with it?  

 

I hope you are all summering well. 

 

Nick 

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
<http://home.earthlink.net/%7Enickthompson/naturaldesigns/> 

 



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Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage

2016-08-01 Thread Joe Spinden

Nick,

I assume you use a Windows system ? On a Mac you can look at the System 
Monitor to get information which seems to be what you are looking for.  
Perhaps others here can suggest a similar program on a Windows system.


Joe


On 7/31/16 11:34 PM, Nick Thompson wrote:


Hi, Sarbajit,

Thanks for the tip.  I studied on it for a bit and think it isn’t 
designed to do what I most need to have done.  It would tell me if my 
problem is, say, HP updates, or Firefox websites. But, unless I am 
wrong, it won’t tell me which of the websites I am contacting is doing 
the dirty.  For instance, I spend a lot of time looking at animated 
radar displays? They are only ten frames long, and don’t seem very 
“verbose”, how can I tell for sure..  Perhaps by logging my activities 
by hand and then using the time logging feature of Neworx I might 
figure it out.Ideally, the program I am looking for would give me 
the amount of data used up for each website contacted.  Given the 
rarity of the problem, the software probably doesn’t exist.


Anyway, thanks for the suggestion.  I will explore it more closely 
tomorrow.


Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ 
<http://home.earthlink.net/%7Enickthompson/naturaldesigns/>


*From:*Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of 
*Sarbajit Roy

*Sent:* Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:35 PM
*To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 


*Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage

Try Networx
https://www.softperfect.com/products/networx/manual/

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 6:55 AM, Nick Thompson 
mailto:nickthomp...@earthlink.net>> wrote:


Hi,

You will recall that when I am in Massachusetts, I get all of my
internet over a Verizon hotspot.  It a bit like eating lunch with
a shark.  Every once in while you find out that you’re missing
part of your arm.  So, I have been looking around on the web for
an app which will tell me which one of my activities … podcasts,
websites, upgrades, updates, etc. … is using up data.   Now, I
figure, being pros, most of you, you all live in places that have
unmetered broad band.  So I don’t expect many of you to share my
problem.  But perhaps one of you has?  There are several apps that
seem perhaps to be relevant.  One is “Glasswire”.  Is anybody
familiar with it?

I hope you are all summering well.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
<http://home.earthlink.net/%7Enickthompson/naturaldesigns/>



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Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage

2016-07-31 Thread Marcus Daniels
One idea would be to configure your web browser to use a proxy server that was 
a parental control router.

http://www.blocksi.net/parental-control.php

Then you could use the analytics in the router software to study your own 
behavior (instead of a child’s).
There may be cloud-based services for this too.   For example, many 
organizations block prohibited content of various sorts for their employees or 
patrons, and would typically need to make use of a global database to do it.   
They wouldn’t maintain the blacklist themselves, but would have some service 
provider making inventories of various bad stuff.  Anyway, censorship tools for 
kids or grown-ups will likely have the ability to measure bandwidth as a side 
feature.

From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Nick Thompson
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 11:34 PM
To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' 
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage

Hi, Sarbajit,

Thanks for the tip.  I studied on it for a bit and think it isn’t designed to 
do what I most need to have done.  It would tell me if my problem is, say, HP 
updates, or Firefox websites.  But, unless I am wrong, it won’t tell me which 
of the websites I am contacting is doing the dirty.  For instance, I spend a 
lot of time looking at animated radar displays?  They are only ten frames long, 
and don’t seem very “verbose”, how can I tell for sure..  Perhaps by logging my 
activities by hand and then using the time logging feature of Neworx I might 
figure it out.Ideally, the program I am looking for would give me the 
amount of data used up for each website contacted.  Given the rarity of the 
problem, the software probably doesn’t exist.

Anyway, thanks for the suggestion.  I will explore it more closely tomorrow.

Nick



Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:35 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 
mailto:friam@redfish.com>>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage

Try Networx
https://www.softperfect.com/products/networx/manual/

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 6:55 AM, Nick Thompson 
mailto:nickthomp...@earthlink.net>> wrote:
Hi,

You will recall that when I am in Massachusetts, I get all of my internet over 
a Verizon hotspot.  It a bit like eating lunch with a shark.  Every once in 
while you find out that you’re missing part of your arm.   So, I have been 
looking around on the web for an app which will tell me which one of my 
activities … podcasts, websites, upgrades, updates, etc. … is using up data.   
Now, I figure, being pros, most of you, you all live in places that have 
unmetered broad band.  So I don’t expect many of you to share my problem.  But 
perhaps one of you has?  There are several apps that seem perhaps to be 
relevant.  One is “Glasswire”.  Is anybody familiar with it?

I hope you are all summering well.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/



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Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage

2016-07-31 Thread Nick Thompson
Hi, Sarbajit, 

 

Thanks for the tip.  I studied on it for a bit and think it isn’t designed to 
do what I most need to have done.  It would tell me if my problem is, say, HP 
updates, or Firefox websites.  But, unless I am wrong, it won’t tell me which 
of the websites I am contacting is doing the dirty.  For instance, I spend a 
lot of time looking at animated radar displays?  They are only ten frames long, 
and don’t seem very “verbose”, how can I tell for sure..  Perhaps by logging my 
activities by hand and then using the time logging feature of Neworx I might 
figure it out.Ideally, the program I am looking for would give me the 
amount of data used up for each website contacted.  Given the rarity of the 
problem, the software probably doesn’t exist.  

 

Anyway, thanks for the suggestion.  I will explore it more closely tomorrow. 

 

Nick 

 

 

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

 <http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/> 
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:35 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage

 

Try Networx
https://www.softperfect.com/products/networx/manual/

 

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 6:55 AM, Nick Thompson mailto:nickthomp...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

Hi, 

 

You will recall that when I am in Massachusetts, I get all of my internet over 
a Verizon hotspot.  It a bit like eating lunch with a shark.  Every once in 
while you find out that you’re missing part of your arm.   So, I have been 
looking around on the web for an app which will tell me which one of my 
activities … podcasts, websites, upgrades, updates, etc. … is using up data.   
Now, I figure, being pros, most of you, you all live in places that have 
unmetered broad band.  So I don’t expect many of you to share my problem.  But 
perhaps one of you has?  There are several apps that seem perhaps to be 
relevant.  One is “Glasswire”.  Is anybody familiar with it?  

 

I hope you are all summering well. 

 

Nick 

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 



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Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage

2016-07-31 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Try Networx
https://www.softperfect.com/products/networx/manual/

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 6:55 AM, Nick Thompson 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
>
> You will recall that when I am in Massachusetts, I get all of my internet
> over a Verizon hotspot.  It a bit like eating lunch with a shark.  Every
> once in while you find out that you’re missing part of your arm.   So, I
> have been looking around on the web for an app which will tell me which one
> of my activities … podcasts, websites, upgrades, updates, etc. … is using
> up data.   Now, I figure, being pros, most of you, you all live in places
> that have unmetered broad band.  So I don’t expect many of you to share my
> problem.  But perhaps one of you has?  There are several apps that seem
> perhaps to be relevant.  One is “Glasswire”.  Is anybody familiar with it?
>
>
>
> I hope you are all summering well.
>
>
>
> Nick
>
>
>
> Nicholas S. Thompson
>
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>
> Clark University
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>
>
>
> 
> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv
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