Re: [FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

[Gillian Densmore]

So I repeated Nicks experiment on the Densmore Coffe Effect (the one where
some silly imp has some not the: run around the block or get inspired to do
fun things.)

I think Nich and steve are both right on this one. ^_^

Hmm so does adding water discourage sprites and dwarfs from creating a
quatum tunnel to socks where the coffe goes?
Or is it as Merdle and you suspect adding water to coffe grounds gets water
into the dry beans and also help the machine work? ^_^

As a follow up question: Being the good Norse+Iriish person I am I prefer
blends of Arabica+Esspresso+Robusto. Rubusto is weirdly hard to find but
doesn't taste like Freds Burnt What was that.?
Adding water to the grounds somehow gives Trader Joes Smooth Morning blend
a nice smooth flavor. Any guesses to Why?  I joke their's some Quantom
effect going on. :P

Might it  have to do with steam (in the basket?) and or the basket having a
extra cup or so somehow rounds out the flavors?

On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Nick Thompson <nickthomp...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

> Ok, so, I did the experiment.
>
>
>
> In a ten cup coffee maker I took a cup of water and pre soaked the
> grounds, taking off what dribbled through and pouring it back through until
> I had saturated the grounds.  The the grounds required a little short of a
> cup to saturate.  Then I put ten cups of water in the coffeemaker and let
> it rip.  I got ten cups of coffee out of it. The Densmore effect is due to
> the grounds.  Qed.
>
>
>
> N
>
>
>
> Nicholas S. Thompson
>
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>
> Clark University
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>
>
>
> *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Gillian
> Densmore
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 19, 2017 10:22 PM
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam@redfish.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making
>
>
>
> H... well fortunatly Iike fun colorful socks... now if they show up
> full coffee been...
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 7:57 PM, Steven A Smith <sasm...@swcp.com> wrote:
>
> Ooops... the "reply-to" on the list reflector seems not to be the list by
> default, so this just went to Merle the first time!
>
> Gil -
>
> I don't use an automated coffee maker often, but when I do (e.g. motel or
> visiting a friend) I forget that the filling system is measured in 8 oz
> cups but my expectations are closer to a 12 ounce mugfull, so 4 cups of
> water in yields something closer to 2.5 mugs out and of course if I"m on
> the west coast, the mugs are 16 ouncers which REALLY aggravates the
> situation!
>
>  - Steve
>
> PS.  a more whimsical answer is that you can probably expect to find the
> extra coffee in your laundry from time to time and some mismatched socks in
> your coffeemaker somewhere down the line!
>
>
>
> On 9/19/17 3:50 PM, Merle Lefkoff wrote:
>
> Gillian, all of the initial water is boiled, so some of the steam escapes
> from the coffeemaker, and some of the rest is in the wet grounds in the
> filter basket.  There may well be something else happening, but this
> accounts for some of it.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Gillian Densmore <gil.densm...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> What on earth happens to some of the coffe when I make it drop style? I
> prepare 6-8 cups so as if someone stops by they can have a bit as well.
>
> But then it only gives a bit over 4-5 cups.
>
>
>
> Does some invisible dwarf drink a bit of it before it gets to the
> Kareff(sp)? oO
>
>
>
> I am genuinly perplexed by this.^_^
>
>
>
>
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>
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Re: [FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

[Steven A Smith]

NST -

I still contend that a more dominant effect is not the "lost water" but 
the apples/oranges of *filling* by 8oz cups and *drinking* by 10-16 oz 
cups...


Just sayin'

- SAS

On 9/20/17 1:52 PM, Nick Thompson wrote:


Ok, so, I did the experiment.

In a ten cup coffee maker I took a cup of water and pre soaked the 
grounds, taking off what dribbled through and pouring it back through 
until I had saturated the grounds.  The the grounds required a little 
short of a cup to saturate.  Then I put ten cups of water in the 
coffeemaker and let it rip. I got ten cups of coffee out of it. The 
Densmore effect is due to the grounds.  Qed.


N

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ 
<http://home.earthlink.net/%7Enickthompson/naturaldesigns/>


*From:*Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Gillian 
Densmore

*Sent:* Tuesday, September 19, 2017 10:22 PM
*To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 
<friam@redfish.com>

*Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

H... well fortunatly Iike fun colorful socks... now if they show 
up full coffee been...


On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 7:57 PM, Steven A Smith <sasm...@swcp.com 
<mailto:sasm...@swcp.com>> wrote:


Ooops... the "reply-to" on the list reflector seems not to be the
list by default, so this just went to Merle the first time!

Gil -

I don't use an automated coffee maker often, but when I do
(e.g. motel or visiting a friend) I forget that the filling
system is measured in 8 oz cups but my expectations are closer
to a 12 ounce mugfull, so 4 cups of water in yields something
closer to 2.5 mugs out and of course if I"m on the west coast,
the mugs are 16 ouncers which REALLY aggravates the situation!

 - Steve

PS.  a more whimsical answer is that you can probably expect to
find the extra coffee in your laundry from time to time and some
mismatched socks in your coffeemaker somewhere down the line!

On 9/19/17 3:50 PM, Merle Lefkoff wrote:

Gillian, all of the initial water is boiled, so some of the
steam escapes from the coffeemaker, and some of the rest is in
the wet grounds in the filter basket.  There may well be
something else happening, but this accounts for some of it.

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Gillian Densmore
<gil.densm...@gmail.com <mailto:gil.densm...@gmail.com>> wrote:

What on earth happens to some of the coffe when I make it
drop style? I prepare 6-8 cups so as if someone stops by
they can have a bit as well.

But then it only gives a bit over 4-5 cups.

Does some invisible dwarf drink a bit of it before it gets
to the Kareff(sp)? oO

I am genuinly perplexed by this.^_^



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Re: [FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

[Steven A Smith]

That’s a quantum effect, right?
Quantum Tunneling, modified by a spell corrector to be "Quantum 
Tunneling" which invokes the adjacent possible, implemented by Douglas 
Adams' "Infinite Improbability Drive".


If you find soggy socks in your coffee (or vice-versa), it is likely 
that a Dolphin was flitting about in the nearby spacetime.


BTW, I grew up among cowboys who claimed that was how they washed their 
socks, by filling them with coffee grounds to dip in the kettle on the 
fire to make coffee... after breakfast, just turn the sock inside out 
and let it dry in the sun and you are good to go   choice of sock to 
use is based on even/odd days for left/right. I think they were 
pulling my leg?


Or just trying to keep me from drinking up their coffee!


--Barry


On 19 Sep 2017, at 19:57, Steven A Smith wrote:

PS.  a more whimsical answer is that you can probably expect to find 
the extra coffee in your laundry from time to time and some 
mismatched socks in your coffeemaker somewhere down the line!



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Re: [FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

[Gillian Densmore]

Mmm and today's batch had more flavor

On Sep 20, 2017 1:52 PM, "Nick Thompson" <nickthomp...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Ok, so, I did the experiment.
>
>
>
> In a ten cup coffee maker I took a cup of water and pre soaked the
> grounds, taking off what dribbled through and pouring it back through until
> I had saturated the grounds.  The the grounds required a little short of a
> cup to saturate.  Then I put ten cups of water in the coffeemaker and let
> it rip.  I got ten cups of coffee out of it. The Densmore effect is due to
> the grounds.  Qed.
>
>
>
> N
>
>
>
> Nicholas S. Thompson
>
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>
> Clark University
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>
>
>
> *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Gillian
> Densmore
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 19, 2017 10:22 PM
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam@redfish.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making
>
>
>
> H... well fortunatly Iike fun colorful socks... now if they show up
> full coffee been...
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 7:57 PM, Steven A Smith <sasm...@swcp.com> wrote:
>
> Ooops... the "reply-to" on the list reflector seems not to be the list by
> default, so this just went to Merle the first time!
>
> Gil -
>
> I don't use an automated coffee maker often, but when I do (e.g. motel or
> visiting a friend) I forget that the filling system is measured in 8 oz
> cups but my expectations are closer to a 12 ounce mugfull, so 4 cups of
> water in yields something closer to 2.5 mugs out and of course if I"m on
> the west coast, the mugs are 16 ouncers which REALLY aggravates the
> situation!
>
>  - Steve
>
> PS.  a more whimsical answer is that you can probably expect to find the
> extra coffee in your laundry from time to time and some mismatched socks in
> your coffeemaker somewhere down the line!
>
>
>
> On 9/19/17 3:50 PM, Merle Lefkoff wrote:
>
> Gillian, all of the initial water is boiled, so some of the steam escapes
> from the coffeemaker, and some of the rest is in the wet grounds in the
> filter basket.  There may well be something else happening, but this
> accounts for some of it.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Gillian Densmore <gil.densm...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> What on earth happens to some of the coffe when I make it drop style? I
> prepare 6-8 cups so as if someone stops by they can have a bit as well.
>
> But then it only gives a bit over 4-5 cups.
>
>
>
> Does some invisible dwarf drink a bit of it before it gets to the
> Kareff(sp)? oO
>
>
>
> I am genuinly perplexed by this.^_^
>
>
>
>
> 
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>
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> emergentdiplomacy.org
>
> Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
>
> Visiting Professor in Integrative Peacebuilding
>
> Saint Paul University
>
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>
>
>
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Re: [FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

[Nick Thompson]

Ok, so, I did the experiment.

 

In a ten cup coffee maker I took a cup of water and pre soaked the grounds, 
taking off what dribbled through and pouring it back through until I had 
saturated the grounds.  The the grounds required a little short of a cup to 
saturate.  Then I put ten cups of water in the coffeemaker and let it rip.  I 
got ten cups of coffee out of it. The Densmore effect is due to the grounds.  
Qed. 

 

N

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

 <http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/> 
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Gillian Densmore
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 10:22 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

 

H... well fortunatly Iike fun colorful socks... now if they show up full 
coffee been... 

 

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 7:57 PM, Steven A Smith <sasm...@swcp.com 
<mailto:sasm...@swcp.com> > wrote:

Ooops... the "reply-to" on the list reflector seems not to be the list by 
default, so this just went to Merle the first time!

Gil -

I don't use an automated coffee maker often, but when I do (e.g. motel or 
visiting a friend) I forget that the filling system is measured in 8 oz cups 
but my expectations are closer to a 12 ounce mugfull, so 4 cups of water in 
yields something closer to 2.5 mugs out and of course if I"m on the west coast, 
the mugs are 16 ouncers which REALLY aggravates the situation!

 - Steve

PS.  a more whimsical answer is that you can probably expect to find the extra 
coffee in your laundry from time to time and some mismatched socks in your 
coffeemaker somewhere down the line!

 

On 9/19/17 3:50 PM, Merle Lefkoff wrote:

Gillian, all of the initial water is boiled, so some of the steam escapes from 
the coffeemaker, and some of the rest is in the wet grounds in the filter 
basket.  There may well be something else happening, but this accounts for some 
of it.

 

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Gillian Densmore <gil.densm...@gmail.com 
<mailto:gil.densm...@gmail.com> > wrote:

What on earth happens to some of the coffe when I make it drop style? I prepare 
6-8 cups so as if someone stops by they can have a bit as well. 

But then it only gives a bit over 4-5 cups.

 

Does some invisible dwarf drink a bit of it before it gets to the Kareff(sp)? oO

 

I am genuinly perplexed by this.^_^ 

 



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emergentdiplomacy.org <http://emergentdiplomacy.org> 

Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA

Visiting Professor in Integrative Peacebuilding

Saint Paul University

Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

 

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Re: [FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

[Gillian Densmore]

(laughing) Only if it can be Quantum-Fied---so does this meen somehow coffe
makers, socks, dustbunnes and hangers have weird energy string? My brain
hurts considering that.
A small spirte makes the coffee, hands it to a quick dwarf that takes a
sock as a prank Lord Terry Pratchet from Vallhala is probably amused

On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Barry MacKichan <
barry.mackic...@mackichan.com> wrote:

> That’s a quantum effect, right?
>
> --Barry
>
>
> On 19 Sep 2017, at 19:57, Steven A Smith wrote:
>
> PS.  a more whimsical answer is that you can probably expect to find the
>> extra coffee in your laundry from time to time and some mismatched socks in
>> your coffeemaker somewhere down the line!
>>
>
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Re: [FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

[Barry MacKichan]

That’s a quantum effect, right?

--Barry


On 19 Sep 2017, at 19:57, Steven A Smith wrote:

PS.  a more whimsical answer is that you can probably expect to find 
the extra coffee in your laundry from time to time and some mismatched 
socks in your coffeemaker somewhere down the line!



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Re: [FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

[Gillian Densmore]

H... well fortunatly Iike fun colorful socks... now if they show up
full coffee been...

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 7:57 PM, Steven A Smith  wrote:

> Ooops... the "reply-to" on the list reflector seems not to be the list by
> default, so this just went to Merle the first time!
>
> Gil -
>
> I don't use an automated coffee maker often, but when I do (e.g. motel or
> visiting a friend) I forget that the filling system is measured in 8 oz
> cups but my expectations are closer to a 12 ounce mugfull, so 4 cups of
> water in yields something closer to 2.5 mugs out and of course if I"m on
> the west coast, the mugs are 16 ouncers which REALLY aggravates the
> situation!
>
>  - Steve
>
> PS.  a more whimsical answer is that you can probably expect to find the
> extra coffee in your laundry from time to time and some mismatched socks in
> your coffeemaker somewhere down the line!
>
> On 9/19/17 3:50 PM, Merle Lefkoff wrote:
>
> Gillian, all of the initial water is boiled, so some of the steam escapes
> from the coffeemaker, and some of the rest is in the wet grounds in the
> filter basket.  There may well be something else happening, but this
> accounts for some of it.
>
> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Gillian Densmore 
> wrote:
>
>> What on earth happens to some of the coffe when I make it drop style? I
>> prepare 6-8 cups so as if someone stops by they can have a bit as well.
>> But then it only gives a bit over 4-5 cups.
>>
>> Does some invisible dwarf drink a bit of it before it gets to the
>> Kareff(sp)? oO
>>
>> I am genuinly perplexed by this.^_^
>>
>>
>> 
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>
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>
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> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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Re: [FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

[Steven A Smith]

Ooops... the "reply-to" on the list reflector seems not to be the list 
by default, so this just went to Merle the first time!


Gil -

   I don't use an automated coffee maker often, but when I do (e.g.
   motel or visiting a friend) I forget that the filling system is
   measured in 8 oz cups but my expectations are closer to a 12 ounce
   mugfull, so 4 cups of water in yields something closer to 2.5 mugs
   out and of course if I"m on the west coast, the mugs are 16 ouncers
   which REALLY aggravates the situation!

 - Steve

PS.  a more whimsical answer is that you can probably expect to find the 
extra coffee in your laundry from time to time and some mismatched socks 
in your coffeemaker somewhere down the line!



On 9/19/17 3:50 PM, Merle Lefkoff wrote:
Gillian, all of the initial water is boiled, so some of the steam 
escapes from the coffeemaker, and some of the rest is in the wet 
grounds in the filter basket.  There may well be something else 
happening, but this accounts for some of it.


On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Gillian Densmore 
> wrote:


What on earth happens to some of the coffe when I make it drop
style? I prepare 6-8 cups so as if someone stops by they can have
a bit as well.
But then it only gives a bit over 4-5 cups.

Does some invisible dwarf drink a bit of it before it gets to the
Kareff(sp)? oO

I am genuinly perplexed by this.^_^



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Re: [FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

[Nick Thompson]

Gil,

 

An experiment: lightly wet the grounds with water before you put the basket in 
the coffee-maker.  Notice how much water you can “get in”.  Now, put the damp 
basket  in the coffee maker and make the coffee as usual.  Are you still 
missing some water?  

 

N

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

 <http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/> 
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Merle Lefkoff
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 5:50 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

 

Gillian, all of the initial water is boiled, so some of the steam escapes from 
the coffeemaker, and some of the rest is in the wet grounds in the filter 
basket.  There may well be something else happening, but this accounts for some 
of it.

 

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Gillian Densmore <gil.densm...@gmail.com 
<mailto:gil.densm...@gmail.com> > wrote:

What on earth happens to some of the coffe when I make it drop style? I prepare 
6-8 cups so as if someone stops by they can have a bit as well.

But then it only gives a bit over 4-5 cups.

 

Does some invisible dwarf drink a bit of it before it gets to the Kareff(sp)? oO

 

I am genuinly perplexed by this.^_^ 

 



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Saint Paul University

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Re: [FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

[Gillian Densmore]

Ah ok thanks

On Sep 19, 2017 3:50 PM, "Merle Lefkoff"  wrote:

> Gillian, all of the initial water is boiled, so some of the steam escapes
> from the coffeemaker, and some of the rest is in the wet grounds in the
> filter basket.  There may well be something else happening, but this
> accounts for some of it.
>
> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Gillian Densmore 
> wrote:
>
>> What on earth happens to some of the coffe when I make it drop style? I
>> prepare 6-8 cups so as if someone stops by they can have a bit as well.
>> But then it only gives a bit over 4-5 cups.
>>
>> Does some invisible dwarf drink a bit of it before it gets to the
>> Kareff(sp)? oO
>>
>> I am genuinly perplexed by this.^_^
>>
>>
>> 
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>
>
>
> --
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> President, Center for Emergent Diplomacy
> emergentdiplomacy.org
> Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
>
> Visiting Professor in Integrative Peacebuilding
> Saint Paul University
> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
>
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Re: [FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

[Merle Lefkoff]

Gillian, all of the initial water is boiled, so some of the steam escapes
from the coffeemaker, and some of the rest is in the wet grounds in the
filter basket.  There may well be something else happening, but this
accounts for some of it.

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Gillian Densmore 
wrote:

> What on earth happens to some of the coffe when I make it drop style? I
> prepare 6-8 cups so as if someone stops by they can have a bit as well.
> But then it only gives a bit over 4-5 cups.
>
> Does some invisible dwarf drink a bit of it before it gets to the
> Kareff(sp)? oO
>
> I am genuinly perplexed by this.^_^
>
>
> 
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President, Center for Emergent Diplomacy
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Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA

Visiting Professor in Integrative Peacebuilding
Saint Paul University
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

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