Re: Destruction of Albania (Part I)

1999-05-15 Thread Eva Durant

I have the feeling, that if a conflict
has a chance (and this one has) to ignite WWlll,
than we should talk about nothing else
but how to stop insanity.
Not much futurework in a destroyed world...


Eva Durant




 I am re-posting our caveat of a few weeks ago.  The war is front and center
 with all of us.  Discussions about it could easily
 swamp all the lists on the net.  So Sally and I appeal to all FWers and
 your netizen ideals and values to keep futurework to its main discussion
 focus.  Thanx.
 
 =
 Dear faithful FWers.
 
 There is obviously a great deal of emotion and concern about events in
 Yugoslavia.  War is a serious thing.  However the futurework list was set up
 for a purpose.  If we allow postings on this or that side of events
 regarding the war it is clear that a new thread on the war will begin.  It
 is likely that such a thread would overwhelm postings concerning futurework.
 Thus we ask that you keep your postings to the general area indicated by our
 futurework notices and that you direct your postings vis-a-vis the war and
 related matters to those lists more relevant to events underway in
 Yugoslavia and neighbouring countries.
 
 Thank you
 
 Sally Lerner and Arthur Cordell
 
  --
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Ray E. Harrell; Michel Chossudovsky
 Subject: Re: Destruction of Albania (Part I)
 Date: Thursday, May 13, 1999 4:17PM
 
 On Fri, 14 May 1999 02:26:20 -0400, Ray E. Harrell wrote:
  One point in all of this is that as an immigrant New Yorker
  I am prone to cynicism around the ability of
  Europeans to live together, (one war every 25 years for
  the past 1000 years).  e.g. From the usefulness of the window
  shutters in Geneva, with the guns and one month food
  supply required by law in the basement, to the doors on
  new apartments in Milan that are made of steel with
  steel rod bolts going in four directions to keep out marauding
  armies.
 
 Funny, but here in Europe we don't have an army that has bombed 21 countries
 during the last 50 years (without having been attacked once).  We also don't
 have the high rates of murder and prisoners that your peaceful country has.
 Nor do we need metal detectors in our schools to protect the kids from
 each other, or security guards on our campus to prevent the kids from
 massacrating their peers on Hitler's birthday.  We also don't have
 militia-men who kill dozens of civilians by blowing up a gov't building.
 Geez, we don't even have racial riots in large cities after some state
 officers have beaten up a citizen for his race.
 
 But I'm sure we'll have all that pretty soon if we follow the lead of your
 peace-loving and tolerant country, Ray.
 
 
  You see I live in NYCity and we take a rather jaundiced
  look at people who gather together to kill their neighbors or
  steal their homes.
 
 Jaundiced indeed for a city that was built on just that.
 
 
 Greetings from a multi-cultural European country
 that had _2_ short (defense) wars in the last 500 years
 (but I guess this can't be read in your informative NYT),
 
 Chris
 
 



Re: Destruction of Albania (Part I)

1999-05-15 Thread Cordell, Arthur: DPP

I feel very strongly as you.  I worry about a nuclear exchange.  Why not
appear at a local protest against the war.  Media coverage of protesters
will do more to stop things than any amount of talk and flames on this or
any list.

thanx

arthur cordell
 --
From: Eva Durant
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Destruction of Albania (Part I)
Date: Friday, May 14, 1999 12:07PM

I have the feeling, that if a conflict
has a chance (and this one has) to ignite WWlll,
than we should talk about nothing else
but how to stop insanity.
Not much futurework in a destroyed world...


Eva Durant




 I am re-posting our caveat of a few weeks ago.  The war is front and
center
 with all of us.  Discussions about it could easily
 swamp all the lists on the net.  So Sally and I appeal to all FWers and
 your netizen ideals and values to keep futurework to its main discussion
 focus.  Thanx.

 =
 Dear faithful FWers.

 There is obviously a great deal of emotion and concern about events in
 Yugoslavia.  War is a serious thing.  However the futurework list was set
up
 for a purpose.  If we allow postings on this or that side of events
 regarding the war it is clear that a new thread on the war will begin.  It
 is likely that such a thread would overwhelm postings concerning
futurework.
 Thus we ask that you keep your postings to the general area indicated by
our
 futurework notices and that you direct your postings vis-a-vis the war and
 related matters to those lists more relevant to events underway in
 Yugoslavia and neighbouring countries.

 Thank you

 Sally Lerner and Arthur Cordell

  --
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Ray E. Harrell; Michel Chossudovsky
 Subject: Re: Destruction of Albania (Part I)
 Date: Thursday, May 13, 1999 4:17PM

 On Fri, 14 May 1999 02:26:20 -0400, Ray E. Harrell wrote:
  One point in all of this is that as an immigrant New Yorker
  I am prone to cynicism around the ability of
  Europeans to live together, (one war every 25 years for
  the past 1000 years).  e.g. From the usefulness of the window
  shutters in Geneva, with the guns and one month food
  supply required by law in the basement, to the doors on
  new apartments in Milan that are made of steel with
  steel rod bolts going in four directions to keep out marauding
  armies.

 Funny, but here in Europe we don't have an army that has bombed 21
countries
 during the last 50 years (without having been attacked once).  We also
don't
 have the high rates of murder and prisoners that your peaceful country
has.
 Nor do we need metal detectors in our schools to protect the kids from
 each other, or security guards on our campus to prevent the kids from
 massacrating their peers on Hitler's birthday.  We also don't have
 militia-men who kill dozens of civilians by blowing up a gov't building.
 Geez, we don't even have racial riots in large cities after some state
 officers have beaten up a citizen for his race.

 But I'm sure we'll have all that pretty soon if we follow the lead of your
 peace-loving and tolerant country, Ray.


  You see I live in NYCity and we take a rather jaundiced
  look at people who gather together to kill their neighbors or
  steal their homes.

 Jaundiced indeed for a city that was built on just that.


 Greetings from a multi-cultural European country
 that had _2_ short (defense) wars in the last 500 years
 (but I guess this can't be read in your informative NYT),

 Chris





Re: temps get postive court decision

1999-05-15 Thread Ray E. Harrell

When the regular business organizations and wall street
became involved in Not-for-profit companies, in this
case recording projects a few years back, for the purpose
of having a business write-off as well as hiding funds, the
Congress passed a law which made such practices illegal.

It hurt all of the regular artists who had been able to
save a little money for project capital by having a Not-
for-profit designation.   A NFP company designation
cost for incorporation went from between 100 to 200
dollars to 1800 dollars while a for profit company
was under five hundred.   All because the purpose of
a "for profit" company is to find ways to use the law
to avoid paying taxes and having the mental attitude
that such a practice is not irresponsibility but responsibility
to company and shareholders.

This Micro-soft issue will probably drive more Entertainment
companies abroad to do their work.  As noted in the NYTimes
article you posted.   Edward Deming's lectures published in
1995 stated that the Arts and Entertainment business in the
U.S. was the highest export sales of any American business.

One out of the five largest Entertainment Media companies
in the world is American owned while only three out of the
seven largest movie companies are American owned.

Much is made of the fact that American Entertainment spans
the globe and American culture is considered a big threat in
many places.  So abroad, American media is considered big
tough business while at home it is considered a threat to the
"real Judeo-Christian" culture of America.

Meanwhile,
American business can't wait to imitate its use of "flexibles"
and the free lance situation that all of us in the performing arts
have to struggle with.  The situation that makes the average
actor make $5,000 a year in his profession and the average
musician (trained practically from birth with his family's private
money) $15,000 a year.Most of the trained artists do not
even qualify to be listed as such by the U.S. Department of
labor because they make most of their income waiting tables,
working in bookstores or teaching school even though their
talents, training and mastery is in the performing arts but
they don't have "jobs"!

This is then exacerbated by the influx of State trained and
State developed performers from the old Soviet Empire.  The
spotty training and limited experience of most Americans is
not competitive with such high quality instruction and experience.
As a teacher I have directly experienced the difference in the
quality of professionals who come for coaching.

This is also the dream of Cypress Semi-conductor's CEO T.J.
Rogers who wants to undercut American trained computer
program workers by hiring directly from the former Soviet
Empire in the same way that American artists
are unprotected.

The official word is that American's are
not hired because they are inferior.   Much like the story that
says the Arts are so poorly supported here  because they
are not popular as if "like" had nothing to do with ignorance.

So we have a lousy situation, but America and the courts will
make the free lance situation for us even less tenable by making
Bill Gates and other's immoral stance in a factory venue illegal.

That in turn will probably make the TRULY Virtual companies
that come into existance for a single project and then fold,  the
movie business, act as if they were permanent.   That will drive
up costs so radically that there will be NO movie work for any
American in the United States.   Terrific! considering that we do
not use up natural resources and create nothing but pleasure and
a raising of consciousness in the population.  Dumb!

How about some genuine conversation on these kinds of issues?

Ray Evans Harrell, artistic director
The Magic Circle Opera Repertory Ensemble of New York, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Cordell, Arthur: DPP wrote:

 This could have postitive implicaitons.
 

 COURT SAYS TEMPS DESERVE EMPLOYEE BENEFITS
 A federal court of appeals has ruled that about 10,000 temporary workers at
 Microsoft are entitled to take part in the discounted stock-option plan the
 company offers to regular employees. Industry analyst Rob Enderle says,
 "This is a broad decision, and it applies to all businesses.  If you've got
 a temp worker putting in 20-plus hours a week, you better start considering
 him or her like you would a part-time worker" -- and provide employee
 benefits.  The ruling indicated that a temporary worker can be considered a
 "common-law employee" if the person's work was controlled not by the
 placement agency but by the company for which the work was being done.
 Microsoft plans to appeal.  (New York Times 14 May 99)
 http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/99/05/biztech/articles/14soft.html





Re: Destruction of Albania (Part I)

1999-05-15 Thread Cordell, Arthur: DPP

I am re-posting our caveat of a few weeks ago.  The war is front and center
with all of us.  Discussions about it could easily
swamp all the lists on the net.  So Sally and I appeal to all FWers and
your netizen ideals and values to keep futurework to its main discussion
focus.  Thanx.

=
Dear faithful FWers.

There is obviously a great deal of emotion and concern about events in
Yugoslavia.  War is a serious thing.  However the futurework list was set up
for a purpose.  If we allow postings on this or that side of events
regarding the war it is clear that a new thread on the war will begin.  It
is likely that such a thread would overwhelm postings concerning futurework.
Thus we ask that you keep your postings to the general area indicated by our
futurework notices and that you direct your postings vis-a-vis the war and
related matters to those lists more relevant to events underway in
Yugoslavia and neighbouring countries.

Thank you

Sally Lerner and Arthur Cordell

 --
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Ray E. Harrell; Michel Chossudovsky
Subject: Re: Destruction of Albania (Part I)
Date: Thursday, May 13, 1999 4:17PM

On Fri, 14 May 1999 02:26:20 -0400, Ray E. Harrell wrote:
 One point in all of this is that as an immigrant New Yorker
 I am prone to cynicism around the ability of
 Europeans to live together, (one war every 25 years for
 the past 1000 years).  e.g. From the usefulness of the window
 shutters in Geneva, with the guns and one month food
 supply required by law in the basement, to the doors on
 new apartments in Milan that are made of steel with
 steel rod bolts going in four directions to keep out marauding
 armies.

Funny, but here in Europe we don't have an army that has bombed 21 countries
during the last 50 years (without having been attacked once).  We also don't
have the high rates of murder and prisoners that your peaceful country has.
Nor do we need metal detectors in our schools to protect the kids from
each other, or security guards on our campus to prevent the kids from
massacrating their peers on Hitler's birthday.  We also don't have
militia-men who kill dozens of civilians by blowing up a gov't building.
Geez, we don't even have racial riots in large cities after some state
officers have beaten up a citizen for his race.

But I'm sure we'll have all that pretty soon if we follow the lead of your
peace-loving and tolerant country, Ray.


 You see I live in NYCity and we take a rather jaundiced
 look at people who gather together to kill their neighbors or
 steal their homes.

Jaundiced indeed for a city that was built on just that.


Greetings from a multi-cultural European country
that had _2_ short (defense) wars in the last 500 years
(but I guess this can't be read in your informative NYT),

Chris



Re: The Jobs Letter No.99 (14 May 1999)

1999-05-15 Thread Ray E. Harrell



S. Lerner wrote:

 From: "vivian Hutchinson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (snip)
 FROM JOB TO PROFESSION
 by Andrew Kimbrell
 
 *The word job in English originally meant a criminal or
 demeaning action. (We retain this meaning when we call a bank
 robbery a "bank job.") After the industrial revolution took hold in
 18th-century England, the first generations of factory workers felt
 that wage work was humiliating and undignified. Angry about being
 driven from their traditional work on the land or in crafts, they
 applied the word job to factory labour as a way of expressing their
 disgust.
 
 *Even today many of us avoid the word job, preferring more
 upscale terms like occupation or career to describe what we do for
 40-plus hours each week. Yet the older meaning of these words
 also reveals something about the nature of work.
 
 Occupation originally meant to seize or capture. (It is still used in
 this sense when, for instance, we speak of the German occupation
 of France during World War II.) What an apt description of how jobs
 take over our lives, subjecting us to the demands of outside rulers.
 The original meaning of career fits well with the role we play in the
 speeded-up global economic rat race. In the 19th century, career
 meant "racing course" or "rapid and unrestrained" activity.
 
 *In searching for ways to put meaning back into our work, we
 might want to revive the term vocation (from the Latin for "voice" or
 "calling"). Today, however, "having a vocation" or "answering a
 calling" usually means embarking upon a religious life--an
 unfortunate narrowing of the concept.
 
 We all deserve to be involved in work to which we have been
 called by our passions and beliefs. Following a vocation can lead to
 a profession--literally, a "public declaration" of what we believe and
 who we are. A profession is what our work should be, but so rarely
 is ...

This and the excellent follow-up employment statistics posted
by Sally is a heartening development in that it understands
the importance of language in these issues.  I wrote an
article to the FW list about these same definitions based
upon my dictionary library that traced the history quoted
above and suggested the same need to deal from a place
of vocation rather than jobs in the discussions on this list.

I am often told by economists that I should just change
jobs if I wish to have more capital, a good health plan,
education for my child and a retirement.  As the above
states, a vocation is a calling based upon who one is with
the "doing" flowing from that being.  The whole set of
concepts, on an inter-personal level, that underlie today's
economic  structures are against the idea of vocation.

Instead we are dealing from a place similar to roles
in a movie where a director picks characters, who may or
may not be trained actors, for their "type" as a person
rather than their skill in a vocation.

"Types" can be
developed quickly and with the help of a behavioral
type of acting class and a good therapist (to help in accepting
not quality, as in elevated skill, but "quality" as in a
set of personal characteristics)  a person can market
their person as a product of a certain type.  If they are
not successful, the answer is not to develop new characteristics
under their product name but to rename themselves under
another set of characteristics.   Possible until public
recognition becomes too developed in which case they are
marketed as advancement in their skills when all it is really
is the imagination of another director who sees them differently.

They are the quintessential short term employees (AGILE) or
flexibles.A movie, a play or a performance in a  bar is still
called a "job" and is treated by the American society as temporary
employment, which it is.   Movies pay well, while bars pay poorly
but thinking in systems will show that the formula is the same and
is the same formula being used by UPS for a large portion of
their workforce as well as Micro-Soft.

The whole idea of re-engineering is an entertainment industry
model.   That also throws into question the figures on employment
since such short term employment only tells whether someone
is being paid for work at that particular moment in time casting
doubt on the relevance of job figures from month to month much
less year to year.   But I've said this before as has Mike
Hollinshead.

Anyway, I'm glad to see that the New Zealanders are alive, well
and asking what I consider to be pertinent questions about the
future of their work.

I'm also delighted that Sally has forwarded the post.

REH






FW: Families: A Social Bottom Line/ Familles: un optimum social

1999-05-15 Thread Cordell, Arthur: DPP

some may be interested in this .
 --
From: e-network
To: e-network
Subject: Families: A Social Bottom Line/ Familles: un optimum social
Date: Friday, May 14, 1999 3:45PM

Canadian Families have a Social Bottom Line, new Study shows

Ottawa, May 14, 1999   Canadian families have a social bottom line, says a
new study released today by Canadian Policy Research Networks. Labour
Market Changes and Family Transactions reports that all families try to
balance economic and social goals in an effort to achieve their social
bottom line. The study also shows that temporary or contract work can lead
to a high degree of vulnerability for the whole family.

Canadian Policy Research Networks interviewed all members over the age of
five in 25 families that were living in Surrey, British Columbia in 1996 to
find out how they balance the demands of work and home life. This in-depth,
qualitative study probes the manner in which families adapt to labour
market changes from the point of view of the family unit. It goes beyond
the limited information of employment or non-employment statistics by
looking at the reasons that underlie the choices that individuals and
families make with respect to labour force attachment.

Both lone-parent and two-parent families participated in the study. Some
participants had stable employment, some had lost jobs and found new ones,
and still others were unemployed for various lengths of time.

The type of job plays an important role in the ability of these families to
function well.  Families where the breadwinners were working at part-time
or contract positions with low pay and little long-term security felt
vulnerable to crisis and change. These families usually had difficulties
coping with everyday pressures.

Achieving the "social bottom line" sometimes means choosing not to enter
the labour market in the short term. Families who decided to either pursue
more training or take more time to find a job reported they were coping
better, even though their income was often lower as a result of their
dependance on income support. Several of the adult caregivers in these
families continued to remain actively focussed on the goal of becoming
employed in the near future by undertaking job training, continuing their
education, or planning their own home business.

Those families where at least one adult worked in standard, full-time
employment were more likely to be doing well both financially and in terms
of their overall health and well-being.

Joseph Michalski is a research associate with Canadian Policy Research
Networks and co-author of the study with Mary-Jean Wason. According to
Michalski, "We learned that achieving values-based objectives such as
quality child care often drives the economic decisions families make.
Recognizing that families have a social bottom line means that even the
decision to participate in the paid labour force may be partly contingent
on the resources and informal support networks available to families."

The researchers also defined the characteristics that make families either
resilient or vulnerable in the face of daily struggles.  In terms of the
internal dynamics of families, the study found that stronger families agree
on household roles and are able to turn to a support network of family,
friends or others in the community.  The study underlines the importance of
child care, flexible work arrangements, external support, life skills
counselling and more secure employment in helping Canadian families to
cope.

Judith Maxwell, President of Canadian Policy Research Networks, says that
this study has national implications: "We are only beginning to examine the
impact of the changing labour market on the economic stability, physical
well-being, and mental health of families and children. Future policy
discussions have to account for the dynamics within the family if employers
and governments  are going to be successful in buffering the tension
between families and their work in this post-industrial era," says Mrs.
Maxwell.

This in-depth study is part of a larger research program which documents
the ways families are coping with the consequences of government spending
cuts and devolution.

http://lists.magma.ca:8080/Unity/UrlView/17/44/24/1/384

Les familles canadiennes recherchent un optimum social

Ottawa, le 14 mai 1999   Les familles canadiennes recherchent un optimum
social, de conclure une nouvelle étude publiée aujourd'hui par les Réseaux
canadiens de recherche en politiques publiques sous le titre  Labour Market
Changes and Family Transactions.  L'étude indique que toutes les familles
tentent d'assurer un équilibre entre leurs objectifs économiques et sociaux
afin de parvenir à un optimum social. Elle souligne aussi que le travail
temporaire ou à contrat peut mener à un niveau de vulnérabilité élevé pour
toute la famille.

Les Réseaux canadiens de recherche en politiques publiques ont procédé en
1996 à des entrevues auprès de tous les membres âgés 

temps get postive court decision

1999-05-15 Thread Cordell, Arthur: DPP


This could have postitive implicaitons.


COURT SAYS TEMPS DESERVE EMPLOYEE BENEFITS
A federal court of appeals has ruled that about 10,000 temporary workers at
Microsoft are entitled to take part in the discounted stock-option plan the
company offers to regular employees. Industry analyst Rob Enderle says,
"This is a broad decision, and it applies to all businesses.  If you've got
a temp worker putting in 20-plus hours a week, you better start considering
him or her like you would a part-time worker" -- and provide employee
benefits.  The ruling indicated that a temporary worker can be considered a
"common-law employee" if the person's work was controlled not by the
placement agency but by the company for which the work was being done.
Microsoft plans to appeal.  (New York Times 14 May 99)
http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/99/05/biztech/articles/14soft.html



Re: Destruction of Albania (Part I)

1999-05-15 Thread Ed Weick




Funny, but here in Europe we don't have an army that has bombed 
21countriesduring the last 50 years (without having been attacked 
once). We alsodon'thave the high rates of murder and prisoners 
that your peaceful country has.Nor do we need metal detectors in our 
schools to protect the kids fromeach other, or security guards on our 
campus to prevent the kids frommassacrating their peers on Hitler's 
birthday. We also don't havemilitia-men who kill dozens of 
civilians by blowing up a gov't building.Geez, we don't even have racial 
riots in large cities after some stateofficers have beaten up a citizen 
for his race.But I'm sure we'll have all that pretty soon if we 
follow the lead of yourpeace-loving and tolerant country, 
Ray.How beautifully smug! I understand that your bankers 
made quite a lot ofmoney from the gold and jewelry that the Nazis took from 
death-camp victims.Europe, if you read its history, was a cesspool of wars, 
repressions andmass exterminations. And it was Europeans who brought 
diseases andenslavement to the Americas, accounting for the destruction of 
civilizationsand the deaths of perhaps 100 million people. I'm sorry, 
I didn't mean toget into this one, but on reading the above 
self-congratulatory puffery, Ijust couldn't help it. But perhaps I 
misunderstood. Perhaps you intent wassome form of comic 
irony.Ed Weick


Re: Destruction of Albania (Part I)

1999-05-15 Thread Eva Durant

The swiss were pretty rich and smug
before Hitler's time. It is a good example,
that if the society is effluent enough,
the ethnic strife becomes a thing of the past. 
(Doesn't make them all that friendly 
and guest-loving though...)

However, given our beloved capitalism, such
peaceful, prosperous times are transient;
insecurity and poverty will bring out all the
alienation and aggressivity wherever you are
whichever minority/majority is persecuted
as the alleged cause for all misery. 
It could even happen to the swiss given an
implosion of the financial/tourist/cookoo
clock sector...

Eva




 Funny, but here in Europe we don't have an army that has bombed 21
 countries
 during the last 50 years (without having been attacked once).  We also
 don't
 have the high rates of murder and prisoners that your peaceful country has.
 Nor do we need metal detectors in our schools to protect the kids from
 each other, or security guards on our campus to prevent the kids from
 massacrating their peers on Hitler's birthday.  We also don't have
 militia-men who kill dozens of civilians by blowing up a gov't building.
 Geez, we don't even have racial riots in large cities after some state
 officers have beaten up a citizen for his race.
 
 But I'm sure we'll have all that pretty soon if we follow the lead of your
 peace-loving and tolerant country, Ray.
 
 
 How beautifully smug!  I  understand that your bankers made quite a lot of
 money from the gold and jewelry that the Nazis took from death-camp victims.
 Europe, if you read its history, was a cesspool of wars, repressions and
 mass exterminations.  And it was Europeans who brought diseases and
 enslavement to the Americas, accounting for the destruction of civilizations
 and the deaths of perhaps 100 million people.  I'm sorry, I didn't mean to
 get into this one, but on reading the above self-congratulatory puffery, I
 just couldn't help it.  But perhaps I misunderstood.  Perhaps you intent was
 some form  of comic irony.
 
 Ed Weick

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Re: Destruction of Albania (Part I)

1999-05-15 Thread Eva Durant

What media coverage? We only got to know about
the displeasure of some german greens about the war,
when Joshka Fisher had paint thrown at his face.
All debates against the bombing were under-reported,
demonstrations non-reported. 
At least some well-informed
lists should do some more informing
such as passing on info about what to do.
O don't know, that's why I am angry and frustrated.

eva


 I feel very strongly as you.  I worry about a nuclear exchange.  Why not
 appear at a local protest against the war.  Media coverage of protesters
 will do more to stop things than any amount of talk and flames on this or
 any list.
 
 
 arthur cordell



Re: FW Statistics That Matter from The Jobs Letter No.99 (14 May 1999)

1999-05-15 Thread Christoph Reuss

 Official Unemployment Rates

 SPAIN 18.6%
 FRANCE 11.9%
 ITALY 12.3%
 GERMANY 9.5%
 CANADA 8.3 %
 NEW ZEALAND 7.2%
 AUSTRALIA 8.1%
 OECD AVERAGE 7.0%
 BRITAIN 6.3%
 UNITED STATES 4.6%
 JAPAN 4.3 %

Aren't these numbers a bit misleading, because the way they're calculated
differs among countries (even within the EU) ?  (E.g. considering the various
categories of de-facto unemployed people who fall out of the statistics for
various reasons.)  Also, comparing the unemployment rates of younger people
can be more telling (e.g. Spain: ~40% IIRC).  It would give an interesting
on-topic FW thread to analyze the (politically-motivated) biases/differences
and try to calculate "real"/commensurable numbers.

Greetings,
Chris




Re: Destruction of Albania (Part I)

1999-05-15 Thread Christoph Reuss

Ed Weick replied:
 How beautifully smug!  I  understand that your bankers made quite a lot of
 money from the gold and jewelry that the Nazis took from death-camp victims.
 Europe, if you read its history, was a cesspool of wars, repressions and
 mass exterminations.  And it was Europeans who brought diseases and
 enslavement to the Americas, accounting for the destruction of civilizations
 and the deaths of perhaps 100 million people.  I'm sorry, I didn't mean to
 get into this one, but on reading the above self-congratulatory puffery, I
 just couldn't help it.  But perhaps I misunderstood.  Perhaps you intent was
 some form  of comic irony.

Basically my smug description of Europe was a parody of Ray's smug
description of America (or vice-versa for the negative descriptions).
Then again, your above criticism misses the point as it talks of the
(distant) past, whereas my comparisions referred to the present
(according to Ray's appeal to "live in the present").  [And much
could be said about the role of US bankers in nazi/other wars.]

Sorry for the off-topic post,
the following one is on-topic...
Chris




FW Statistics That Matter from The Jobs Letter No.99 (14 May1999) (fwd with permission)

1999-05-15 Thread S. Lerner

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14 May 1999

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G L O B A L  U N E M P L O Y M E N T   F I G U R E S

Official Unemployment Rates

SPAIN 18.6%
FRANCE 11.9%
ITALY 12.3%
GERMANY 9.5%
CANADA 8.3 %
NEW ZEALAND 7.2%
AUSTRALIA 8.1%
OECD AVERAGE 7.0%
BRITAIN 6.3%
UNITED STATES 4.6%
JAPAN 4.3 %

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The Jobs Letter No.99 (14 May 1999)

1999-05-15 Thread S. Lerner

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T H E   J O B S   L E T T E R   0 9 9
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edited by Vivian Hutchinson for the Jobs Research Trust
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FROM JOB TO PROFESSION

T H E   J O B S   L E T T E R
an essential information and media watch
on jobs, employment,  unemployment, the future of work,
and related economic and education issues.


HOW IS YOUR RESTRUCTURING GOING?
*How's your re-structuring going?  Is there a major business
or government department in NZ that hasn't been re-structured,
downsized or 're-engineered' (often repeatedly) in the last 15
years?
Has there been any studies undertaken as to how the goals of the
re-structuring and downsizing were measuring up after the fact?

*In the US, estimates of the numbers of American workers
who have been 'downsized' from jobs in the major corporates, from
1980 to 1995, vary from a low count of 13m people, to as high as
39m.

In the early 1990s, the American Management Association
conducted studies of firms which had engaged seriously in
downsizing. The AMA found that repeated downsizings produce
"lower profits and declining worker productivity..." Another study
by the Wyatt Companies found that "less than half the companies
achieved their expense reduction goals; fewer than one-third
increased their profitability and less than one third increased their
productivity..."

*Richard Sennett, in his recent book "The Corrosion of
Character" writes that because managerial ideology presents the
drive for re-structuring as a matter of achieving greater efficiency,
we need to ask whether such institutional change has succeeded in
its goals.

Sennett: "It became clear to many business leaders by the mid-
1990s that only in the highly paid fantasy life of consultants can a
large organisation define a new business plan, trim staff and 're-
engineer' itself to suit, then steam forward to realise the new design.

"Many, even most, re-engineering efforts fail largely because
institutions become dysfunctional during the people-squeezing
process: the morale and motivation of workers drop sharply in the
various plays of downsizing. Surviving workers wait for the next
blow of the axe rather than exulting in competitive victory over those
who are fired...

"Institutional changes, instead of following the path of the
guided arrow, head in different and often conflicting directions:
business plans are discarded and revised; expected benefits turn
out to be ephemeral; the organisation loses direction, a profitable
operating unit is suddenly sold, for example, yet a few years later
the parent company tries to get back the business in which it knew
how to make money before it sought to reinvent itself..."

*Sennett says that because institutional re-structurings signal
to the finance markets that change is "for real", the stock prices of
institutions in the course of re-organisation often rises, as though
"any changes are better than continuing on as before..."According
to the markets, the disruption of organisations becomes profitable.

Sennett: "While the disruption may not be justifiable in terms of
productivity, the short-term returns to stockholders provide a strong
incentive to the powers of chaos disguised by that seemingly
reassuring word 're-engineering'. Perfectly viable businesses are
gutted or abandoned, capable employees are set adrift rather than
rewarded, simply because the organisation must prove to the
market that it is capable of change..."

FROM JOB TO PROFESSION
by Andrew Kimbrell

*The word job in English originally meant a criminal or
demeaning action. (We retain this meaning when we call a bank
robbery a "bank job.") After the industrial revolution took hold in
18th-century England, the first generations of factory workers felt
that wage work was humiliating and undignified. Angry about being
driven from their traditional work on the land or in crafts, they
applied the word job to factory labour as a way of expressing their
disgust.

*Even today many of us avoid the word job, preferring more
upscale terms like occupation or career to describe what we do for
40-plus hours each week. Yet the older meaning of these words
also reveals something about the nature of work.

Occupation originally meant to seize or capture. (It is still used in
this sense when, for instance, we speak of the 

Re: Destruction of Albania (Part I)

1999-05-15 Thread Ray E. Harrell



Christoph Reuss wrote:

 Ed Weick replied:
  How beautifully smug!  I  understand that your bankers made quite a lot of
  money from the gold and jewelry that the Nazis took from death-camp victims.
  Europe, if you read its history, was a cesspool of wars, repressions and
  mass exterminations.  And it was Europeans who brought diseases and
  enslavement to the Americas, accounting for the destruction of civilizations
  and the deaths of perhaps 100 million people.  I'm sorry, I didn't mean to
  get into this one, but on reading the above self-congratulatory puffery, I
  just couldn't help it.  But perhaps I misunderstood.  Perhaps you intent was
  some form  of comic irony.

 Basically my smug description of Europe was a parody of Ray's smug
 description of America (or vice-versa for the negative descriptions).

I have no idea how you could see
anything that I have written as defending the history of
European Americans on this continent past present andI am quite cynical about the
future as well.

The gist of my post was threefold:1. I stated that an issue (such as the one
described by the Yugoslaveconomist from Toronto)  which is "listed" , "described'
and
"understood"  rarely creates change and is not an
answer too whatever the problem is.   It is simply an inadequate
process in my opinion.   I said:

So you have to come up with a better script than "Describe
the history",  "list the atrocities" and everyone will "understand"
and thus change!

2. The problem that economist Chussudovsky mentioned is not
new but is a common process that springs from the belief that
financial, i.e. economic value, constitutes real value in the
world.   In that sense every economist who preaches economic
value above community morality or the growth of the human
consciousness or spirit is a collaborator in what Chussodovsky
is complaining about.   I simply do not believe that this value
system can end in anything other than human conflict and death.

I used Wagner as an example because his own continual
harassment by bankers and others who refused to pay him
royalties (an Intellectual Capital issue) while reducing him
to a pauper in relation to his need for Physical Capital both
for common needs and the productions of his work has been
used and abused by people on all sides of the political,
religious and cultural spectrum.   The greatest composer and
theoretical mind of the 19th century was forced into prison
and ran from country to country while writing his greatest
works.   There were 3 and 1/2 million refugees washing
across the face of Europe as the economists and aristocracy
played their games.   The king of Bavaria said that he would
have executed Wagner for his philosophical support of the
Democracy movement in Dresden where he was being paid
a pittance for masterworks and conducting as well.

All to say this is not new.   Nor is it old for people like my
sister to be abducted by a government and sent thousands
of miles from family, friends and culture to a school to
drive the Indian out.   Or for Gypsy children, like the Bolshoi
ballerina studying with me at present, to be abducted by the
Swiss government and put with Gadje families who were
supposed to drive out the culture from their genetics as well.
Luckily for the ballerina she was first in Russia and later
Denmark where her talent was honored and she received
exceptional instruction rather than being put in jail for
"stealing children" or some other lie.

I said:
Don't you know all of those Schubert, Schumann, Brahms and
Mahler songs dealing with the European people on the other
side of those bankers?

3. And finally I said:
Goodness is not cultural and neither is greed or evil.
(I wrote about the church in my last post so I don't
consider it to be an answer either.)  But the issue of
living together is one that we must solve and doing it
creatively must also happen or we are doomed to be
replaced.

(by another species.)


 Then again, your above criticism misses the point as it talks of the
 (distant) past, whereas my comparisions referred to the present
 (according to Ray's appeal to "live in the present").

Not a bad idea, "truly living in the present" although I can't findthe phrase in
that post.  Perhaps you could post what you are
referencing as I am in this case.  That would make it simpler.

 [And much
 could be said about the role of US bankers in nazi/other wars.]

I agree and you could list Henry Ford as well.

Lest you believe that I am against Europeans or the Swiss in
particular, I would say that it may be true that a Swiss person
saying what I have said would be expressing those feelings.

However, in my case as I have said over the years on this
list that you should not mistake passion for a curse.  I have
taught voice to wonderful Swiss students and one of my favorite
teachers sang in Zurich at the opera for many years.   I
seek only solutions and discussion.  I do not have the answers
but I do have many questions and history with 

Re: FW Statistics That Matter from The Jobs Letter No.99 (

1999-05-15 Thread Durant

The way unemployment statistics were compiled changed
20+ times under Thatcher, and I wouldn't be surprised if he
followed the US trend, like she did in most other things.
Unemployed married/partnered women do not appear in
UK registers. Youth under 18, men over 60 and anyone 
who for some reason do not qualify for benefit is missing
from he statistics. The "new" jobs are low paid, part-time, temporary 
and shoert contracts, without the previous holiday etc.
benefits.
I think the US underclass, homeless people etc.
" the 3rd world in the 1st world",
is totally excluded from the unemployment statistics
in the US, too.
The so cold anglosaxon way of "less government"
is as much of a failure as the so called "nanny state".

Eva


  Official Unemployment Rates
 
  SPAIN 18.6%
  FRANCE 11.9%
  ITALY 12.3%
  GERMANY 9.5%
  CANADA 8.3 %
  NEW ZEALAND 7.2%
  AUSTRALIA 8.1%
  OECD AVERAGE 7.0%
  BRITAIN 6.3%
  UNITED STATES 4.6%
  JAPAN 4.3 %
 
 Aren't these numbers a bit misleading, because the way they're calculated
 differs among countries (even within the EU) ?  (E.g. considering the various
 categories of de-facto unemployed people who fall out of the statistics for
 various reasons.)  Also, comparing the unemployment rates of younger people
 can be more telling (e.g. Spain: ~40% IIRC).  It would give an interesting
 on-topic FW thread to analyze the (politically-motivated) biases/differences
 and try to calculate "real"/commensurable numbers.
 
 Greetings,
 Chris
 
 
 
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Re: Destruction of Albania (Part I) [my final reply on this]

1999-05-15 Thread Christoph Reuss

REH wrote:
 
  Basically my smug description of Europe was a parody of Ray's smug
  description of America (or vice-versa for the negative descriptions).

 I have no idea how you could see
 anything that I have written as defending the history of
 European Americans on this continent past present andI am quite cynical about
 the future as well.

I objected to your sweeping generalization of 08-May that "In Europe they are
eating each other, here we are feeding each other." which is a crass
misrepresentation of reality for most places.


 2. The problem that economist Chussudovsky mentioned is not
 new but is a common process that springs from the belief that
 financial, i.e. economic value, constitutes real value in the
 world.   In that sense every economist who preaches economic
 value above community morality or the growth of the human
 consciousness or spirit is a collaborator in what Chussodovsky
 is complaining about.   I simply do not believe that this value
 system can end in anything other than human conflict and death.

I think the point of Michel Chossudovsky is that economical developments
have a big influence on human conflicts, so much so that they are even a
motor of conflict.  This is a basic element of independent conflict research,
and I assume we can all agree on that.  Realizing a cause is the first step
(and the precondition) to effectively treat it.



  Then again, your above criticism misses the point as it talks of the
  (distant) past, whereas my comparisions referred to the present
  (according to Ray's appeal to "live in the present").

 Not a bad idea, "truly living in the present" although I can't findthe
 phrase in that post.  Perhaps you could post what you are
 referencing as I am in this case.  That would make it simpler.

On Sat, 08 May 1999 20:45:24 -0400, you wrote:
   But Chris, in spite of all of this, [my father] taught us to live in
   the present.

The danger of living in the present is to forget the past and to ignore
the impacts of present decisions on the future -- both is a 'good' recipe to
repeat the mistakes of the past and to mess up the future.  Clinton and many
Americans are clearly "living in the present" and the results are accordingly.
Let's leave "living in the present" up to animals -- humans have developed a
brain to remember the past and to project the future.


 All to say this is not new.   Nor is it old for people like my
 sister to be abducted by a government and sent thousands
 of miles from family, friends and culture to a school to
 drive the Indian out.   Or for Gypsy children, like the Bolshoi
 ballerina studying with me at present, to be abducted by the
 Swiss government and put with Gadje families who were
 supposed to drive out the culture from their genetics as well.

There is no way to compare the oppression and destruction of Native Americans
by the US gov't with the handling of Gypsies by the Swiss gov't.  Nobody was
"abducted by the Swiss government" -- there have been wrong-doings by a
social foundation which had the task of ensuring the education of Gypsy
children.  These wrong-doings were stopped 26 years ago, and since then,
the Swiss gov't has spent millions of dollars to investigate the cases and
to pay compensations (did the US gov't do anything similar for Natives?).
An independent study came to the conclusion that "the main guilt of the
authorities was lack of control of this foundation."  Please check your facts
better before handing out random accusations and sweeping generalizations.


 Last week I also heard the National Rifle Association use
 the Swiss requirement for weapons and food in their
 basements as a justification for the free flow of firearms
 in America no matter how many street gangs, drug lords
 or disgruntled adolescents have them.

The NRA's argument is really ironic, because "the Swiss requirement for
weapons" is limited to the personal _military_ gun of each _soldier_ and
has nothing to do with the free flow of _private_ firearms (which is more
strictly regulated in Switzerland than in the US) that the NRA wants.


 In my opinion we suffer from a poverty of workable non-violent
 models and imagination.

IMHO Switzerland offers such a model and has offered it for a long time now
(even _before_ it was rich), not only internally but also externally (Red
Cross etc.), but it seems that the powers-that-be are more interested in
tearing down this model and (dis)"integrating" it into the imperialist EU,
instead of adopting this model.  It is "in the way" of the "New World Order",
like the Yugoslavian model of non-aligned socialism was.

Chris