Re: [IKD] INFORMATION OVERLOAD--WEEK 6
Athena Vongalis wrote: In relation to the question about the number of English language speakers around the world, David Crystal in his book Global English illustrates the three circles of English. Basically the first circle is the English speaking countries, the second consists of the 'colonies' and nations which have adopted English as the official/ government language and the third, and most massive, includes almost every other 'significant' nation such as Russia, China, Indonesia and so on. In terms of international relationships whether economic, diplomatic, educational, scientific and so on, English is the common language. While this may seem obvious enough, if we consider that language is essentially ' a game of communication' as Wittgenstein would say, then in order to communicate one has to take part in the 'game'. In taking part in the game, there has to be an understanding of the rules of communication, both overt and hidden rules, an understanding of the context in which that communication takes place and a sorting out of the relationships and baggage that each speaker brings to the game. Like any other game, in order to be good, it has to be practiced especially if the art of communication can persuade and can identify, can signal belonging and can determine the social order of the speaker. In the world arena, a diplomat, politician without English is at a clear disadvantage. Using interpreters and translation interferes with the art of communication and as such interferes with the message and power of persuasion. The advantage of English is immeasurable. Athena Vongalis Language Policy research Monash University [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Athena Vongalis yes, but only if you live with one eye in a tunnel reality It helps you to avoid the depth. But have you ever thought about that not only countries are seperated by language like UK and US but also fields of profession or regions? It looks very reasonable what you write, but it is not enough and it will leave out diversity and the potential to grow, change, and surprise! There is no way other than to look into switching systems or what we do in Europe with the MLIS Multi-Lingual Information Society. see: http://www.infoterm.or.at/index.html and : www2.echo.lu/mlishome.htm Closing the eyes is no way - you will miss seeing a lot, but it is with words like with fog or even worth - you get into trouble when you think you know but do not or worth drive faster as you see no fog. "In trouble" might be war, but why not try a HUMANE INFORMATION SOCIETY: see: [2] Towards the Humane Information Society - People issues in the implementation of the EU Framework V Programme, eds J.P. Chester, European Union ACTS Programme USINACTS Project, Jp Chester, Institute of Technology, Carlow, Ireland, ISBN: 1 901267 03 2 http://atwww.hhi.de/usinacts.html as further elaborated in: http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/humane-info.htm I can only STRONGLY recommend: http://www.uia.org/projects/cultency.htm Encyclopedia of Conceptual Insights from the World's Cultures Proposal to UNESCO in relation to the Decade on Cultural Development I have jsut organized a conference on WORLD CULTURES and definitely your way is no way for a society searching for COMMON FRAMES OF REFERENCE as we agreed in RIO at the EARTH SUMMIT. see: http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/melbourne.htm But please it need sto be an open transfer between schemas or models, as in : http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/landscape.htm#Change the maps, models, and paradigms Not only ONE frame which closes our horizons mentally as well as physically in the end. but if you want to open your eyes, share views, merge models, meatphors, schemas, languages, have a look at: http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/spatialm.htm http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/landscape.htm#Change the maps, models, and paradigms you just need to, like many kids do already try to see with many eyes in the HOUSE OF EYES: http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/uiu_plus/isss98/house-of-eyes.htm If not thisngs are dangerous and maybe a deadly GAME OF COMMUNICATION - as you cite WITTGENSTEIN we know too much about peacemaking and dialogue, so we can not let you go with your arguments: http://www.uia.org/dialogue/webdial.htm have a look at: http://newciv.org/cob/members/benking/voicetxt.html to be shure - we all struggle with English and can improve, but it is not enough!! all the best to you heiner benking SYNOPSIS-UPDATE http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/ifsr/IFSRnov98pp.htm * ME/FUTURES - http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/borderland.htm http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/recentsurvival9899.htm ** There is growing lament that wisdom, imagination and virtue are lost when messages double, information
Re: [IKD] Information overload and Indigenous Knowledge
why do we reinvent the wheel? work on overload is as old as ICT and somehow I feel it would be good to include some old work and initiatives which were too early, or were not understood, or the technology or we humans were not up to it. If this group/lists are really wanting to look at the issues seriously and constructively we migth want to look at the work of UNU, UIA, and many other bodies nicelely summarized in: Project on Information Overload and Information Underuse (IOIU) of the Global Learning Division of the United Nations University (Area 6: Coding and the socio-cultural context of information, 1986) Review of Frameworks for the Representation of Alternative Conceptual Orderings as Determined by Cultural and Linguistic Contexts http://www.uia.org/uiadocs/lingcul.htm Anti-Developmental Biases in Thesaurus Design Knowledge-Representation in a Computer-Supported Environment Anti-Developmental Biases in Thesaurus Design http://www.uia.org/knowledg/antidev.htm Representation, Comprehension and Communication of Sets: the Role of Numberp://www.uia.org/knowledg/numb0.htm Global Strategies Project: Reframing the Unknown 7.2 Strategic denial: reframing the unknown http://www.uia.org/strategy/72futled.htm Design Considerations for Spatial Metaphors http://www.uia.org/uiadocs/spatialm.htm and the efforts of EEES Environmental Experts of the Economic Summit (G7), UNEP, SRU and others some 15 and more years ago and where this efforts are now, and how they could fit into what is needed and possible. Harmonization of Environmental Measurement http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/harmonization/harmonization.htm Access and Assimilation: Pivotal Environmental Information Challenges - Linking, Archiving, and Exploiting Multi-Lingual and Multi-Scale Environmental Information Repositories http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/aa/acc&assim.htm Proposing a Conceptual Superstructure Work-Report of a Vision to explore issue-scapes like virtual landscapes http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/melbourne.htm REPORT TO THE CLUB OF ROME 'THE CAPACITY TO GOVERN' - Seven Points to Remember http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/governance.htm#UN here only "point" 6 and 7: 6. Research into spatial metaphors supporting local and global governance by enabling understanding of intersectoral strategic dilemmas of action and results chains in a symbolic and trans-cultural form, for shared exploration of issues and evaluation of proportions and consequences with differentiation between data, conjectures and 'noise' in policy information. 7. Further development of a conceptual superstructure as a reference paradigm to ease access to salient data while avoiding unnecessary redundancy and overloads. TERMINOLOGY and MLIS Multi-LINGUAL Information Society: CONCEPT AND CONTEXT MAPPING - TOWARDS COMMON FRAMES OF REFERENCE http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/term/terminology.htm Here we write : we should not only change seats, but the script, when we are in the wrong film: http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/ifsr/IFSRnov98pp.htm Maybe some of the above is new to some members of this list so we could assemble more force and depth to takle the issues, and not avoid problems of terminology, and frames, and sets, and and and One central proble is that value is hidden and lost in volumes of noise. Solutions are proposed and elaborated and used in prototypes over th alst 20 and more years. If we could only see that there are ways to use other representation and (re)search paradigms. heiner benking http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/humane-info.htm http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/predicament.htm http://www.geocities.com/~acunu/millennium/resume/res-hb.html ** There is growing lament that wisdom, imagination and virtue are lost when messages double, information halves, knowledge quarters,... and noise without origin, quality, and purpose is everywhere. But how to overcome this downward spiral? ** Westrienen, Gerard van wrote: Yaw Fitzgerald wrote: >> I agree with Alistair Scott of the UK DFID. The work that is being done by ID21 needs to be replicated. The important thing with the so called knowledge overload is to sift the available information properly. >> I agree completely with Yaw Fitzgerald and favour activities like ID21. ** There is growing lament that wisdom, imagination and virtue are lost when messages double, information halves, knowledge quarters,... and noise without origin, quality, and purpose is everywhere. But how to overcome this downward spiral? **
Re: Earth Day 2000 info
April 22, 2000, the millennial Earth Day, hundreds of millions of > people > will join in actions to create a sustainable global environment. > Earth Day > 2000 will call for tangible results and far-reaching policies to > protect > the environment. It will enlist a new generation of environmental > activists, building alliances that transcend the boundaries of > countries, > continents, and cultures. It will galvanize the sort of broad, deep > support that makes tough choices politically possible. > > We cannot afford to waste time complaining, avoiding, denying, or > fighting > each other. > > Together, we can create a positive future. > > Earth Day's Precedent > > Earth Day began in the belief that people, working together, can > accomplish > extraordinary things. Earth Day is unique in that it links citizen > activists around the world with each other while inspiring action on > personal, community, national, and international levels. > > On the first Earth Day in 1970, 20 million citizens in the United > States > came together to create a national environmental agenda. Within two > years, > the country's main environmental agency had been created. Important > laws > to clean the air and water and to protect rare species had been > adopted. > > On Earth Day 1990, over 200 million people in 141 countries on every > continent participated in celebrations in their communities. The > mobilization of citizen groups that started with Earth Day 1990 > empowered > citizens, linked non-governmental organizations (NGOs) globally, and > pressured heads of state to participate personally in the UN Earth > Summit > in Rio de Janeiro. > > Since 1990, Earth Day has been embraced by citizen groups the world > over as > an international citizens' day. In Canada, Japan, France, and many > other > countries, national offices coordinate Earth Day activities. In > Eastern > Europe, the Regional Environment Center reports that most of its 2300 > affiliates organize yearly for Earth Day. We look forward to > connecting > with those groups who have already been using Earth Day as an > organizing > tool, and with those who are ready to begin doing so. > > Earth Day Celebrations and Actions > > Earth Day is celebrated in diverse ways. In 1990, Earth Day ignited > environmental imaginations in France, where participants formed a > 500-mile > human chain along the Loire River, stretching across the country, to > honor > one of Europe's last clean rivers. In Asia, an international team of > mountain climbers from China, the Soviet Union and the U.S. picked up > the > more than two tons of trash left on Mount Everest by earlier > expeditions. > Five thousand Italians staged a roadway lie-down to protest car > fumes. In > Haiti, Earth Day was officially declared a National Holiday. In > Jordan, > 10,000 students joined a national cleanup. In Tokyo Bay, 35,000 > Japanese > environmentalists gathered on Dream Island, an island made of garbage, > to > set up a temporary recycling center. To learn more about Earth Day in > 1990 > and years since, see http://www.sdearthtimes.com/edn/calendar. > > Join Earth Day 2000 > > Earth Day 2000, the 30th anniversary of Earth Day, will use grassroots > > organizing and cutting-edge technology to educate, empower, and > inspire > actions that protect the public interest. > > Earth Day will create global networks that connect activists > together. It > will prod organizations to think more ambitiously about the immensity > and > urgency of their work. > > Connect your efforts with those of other activists to create a global > force > for change. > > Join Earth Day 2000. > > Please return the following important contact information so we can > collaborate > > Name: > Organization: > Address: > Postal code: > Country: > Telephone: > Fax: > Email: > Website: > Prefer to be contacted by > Email___ mail___ fax___(please indicate one) > > Earth Day 1999 Plans > > Earth Day 2000 Plans > > Other Comments: > - SHARING FUTURES - times, spaces, voices, views, values,.. in SHARED PERSPECTIVE Heiner BENKING, Box 2060,D - 89010 Ulm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/homepageHB1.htm http://newciv.org/cob/members/benking/or http://www.uia.org/guests/benking/ http://www.geocities.com/~acunu/millennium/resume/res-hb.html full version at: http://www.geocities.com/~acunu/millennium/resume/hbenking.html http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/ifsr/IFSRnov98pp.htm * ME/FUTURES - http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/borderland.htm http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/recentsurvival9899.htm ** There is growing lament that wisdom, imagination and virtue are lost when messages double, information halves, knowledge quarters,... and noise without origin, quality, and purpose is everywhere. But how to overcome this downward spiral? **
Humanity 3000: Futures for Humans or Super-Humans
elligence. francis writes below: " In the end, the borders between carbon and silicon will become ever less relevant, and the one will merge naturally into the other. Therefore, there is no real competition between humans and machines, and no danger of the one "taking over" from the other one." Some of you felt really concerned about a "cyborg" merger but asked if we are looking for futures or if technologies will beside by themselves. You see I was in this technology market research, delphi, computers, technology, defence, and many other industries, I was shocked about how nearly 90% of you did stick to the "surface" of the issues and avoid to tackle the questions which were raised. It was called ALTERNATIVE FUTURES, POSITIVE FUTURES, we called it with Willis Harman the PATHFINDER project in search for alternative ways and horizons, but nobody brought up alternatives, most of you seem to be stuck with numbers and what we know already... Nobody thinks about giving a pathfinder for the future a map, a knapsack, and a some (altentive) directions (orientations) I am and was so agitated because we all know there is nothing we can do, that we can not anything, see not, have not, dare not... you see it is a deep trap. And if I would not have had the please to work with children now since more than 5 years, maybe even more than 10 years, it depends what you mean and count, and would have seen that kids ask new questions, do not accept bloodless stereotypes of everybody knows,... I searched for you for something old, a translation I had received from Penttii MALASKA 5 years ago, but somehow lost somewhere. I was wondering why nobody had picked it up what was written there, why nobody wondered that the kids were tired with old the renown Futurists, given them models, numbers, scenarios, probabilities, but not FUTURES. Nobody had wondered that the Finish WEEKLY was covering a WORLD CONFERENCE by dropping a few names in a little "Box", but the Journalist, after also interviewing all the FUTURISTS, had felt that the story was how the KIDS reacted to new questions and rooms for possibly shared futures and options, how they jointly found the answers themselves !!, how they wondered and became more and more comfortable with the idea, that what they learn in school is "too flat", where they are, what they learn, what it is about with LIFE and Professions... I had always felt others should pick this up, but the Journalist has done his job, the kids have done their job and it is up to us, to reflect the mould we are stuck in. ROBERT JUNGK had told me to do my workshops and developments with kids and forget about the grown ups. BUT the grown ups control what the kids learn - and so we need to brake this deadlock and dilemma!! The internet is a way - but we have to do it real ! and we need your support ! EXCUSE ME - I am totally burned out after 10 years, and I want ot lay it into the hands of kids, are their any kids left !?? Words of thanks and acknowledgement: Dear Francis, I took the liberty to show in contrast/discussion to your invited discussion of your position paper, where I see differences, where I feel we should go, what is at stake. That does not mean all your work is bad or rubbish. ON THE CONTRARY - it very important and very professional - what I mean is do all to get HUMANITY and KIDS involved wide and transcend the topic, area, categories, and horizons.. discuss GLOBAL BRAIN and GLOBAL MIND - Integral and transformative concepts. ONLY by addressing you and the ISSUES YOU RAISE and The SOLUTIONS you see, we are able to jointly steer a common course on common maps, many maps and models.. http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/spatialm.htm http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/landscape.htm and negotiate the issues in dialogue, "erörtern" seeing and negotiating all positions in a joint co-creative exercise. see: http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/dialogue-culture.htm http://newciv.org/cob/members/benking/voicetxt.html Excuse me, but in the original first message I highlighted in my eyes important, pressing and immediate issues. Points I raised were somehow forgotten or put into distance.. - SORRY IT IS TOO IMPRTANT FOR ME - to just let go - with CYBERTALK.. where the issues are LIFE and survival. Heiner Benking PS: we have put the translations of WFSF report in HELSINGIN SANOMAT (weekly) now - on the web. You are welcome to vistit: http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/edu/educationfin.htm or how it applies to optics and ethics, another piece not accepted as there is so little space.. http://newciv.org/cob/members/benking/opto.html for something different or new or not established or alien *** I have to dedicate to many children, their well-packed and innocent questions. here are some of them or what came to to me in search for answers: There is growing lament
conserving culture Re: More on the growing Gap
> Pille Bunnell wrote in her ESSAY "conserving a culture": > > "we can imagine the consequences at the global, but we can never see > the global" > > > > Dear Pille, > sorry I forgot: You wrote "we can imagine the consequences at the > global, but we can never see the global". This is what it is > really about and what we should concern ourselves with: Never say > never. > Humanity has been electrified with pictures form orbit, and a mayor > goodwilling "mania" started with "seeing GAIA, the globe > as a whole". But it was and is not enough to see the fragility, even > when so visisible, aesthetic, and powerful. It was used to > justify losts of spendings, but it is not enough to get and maintain a > humility "the more we gaze". > I know as I was close to ISY - International Space Year...1992 ... > > These pictures get old, we get used to them, they are not immersive, > and the feeling is de-tached, the observer attitude is > maintained... as I mentioned in the message "image versus show" (Ivan > ILLICH) > > To make a difference, I do it actually and know, that we can create > pictures and models which allow us to immmerse & > embody in order to discuss, share and feel scales, proportions and > consequences. That has been my work staring eben before > the KLUWERS ACADEMIC PUBLISHERS preparations and follow up of the > SERIES : CREDIBILITY OF ECOLOGY > (started in 1986) > > So in order to get the difference: > We have to make real the proportions, scales and consequences, and I > have cc:ed for excample to Robert > LAMSON, Panetics, Y. Dror CAPACITY OT GOVERN, and John McConnell > EARTHDAY - as I feel they might get what > I mean when I want to make things and subjects more plastic and solid. > > Heiner > > SHARING FUTURES - times, spaces, voices, views, values,.. > >in SHARED PERSPECTIVE > http://newciv.org/cob/members/benking/ > http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/homepageHB1.htm > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Heiner BENKING, Box 2060,D - 89010 Ulm > > SEE: > * ON GLOBAL THINKING AND FEELING: > http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/ifsr/IFSRnov98pp.htm > http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/uiu_plus/isss98/house-of-eyes.htm > * ON HUMANITY & WAR - > http://www.bfranklin.edu/hubs/global/benking.htm > * ON ME/FUTURES - > http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/borderland.htm > ** > Wisdom, imagination and virtue is lost > when messages double, information halves, knowledge quarters,... > ** >
Re: FW Futurework begins its fifth year
thanks specially to STEVE who got me here. I really believe you are working towards thinking the things together and prepare and do some action. heiner Eva Durant wrote: > Thanks - I do sometimes find some useful data > & information and hopefully a trend towards > a analysis of the contradiction of > fundations not just pussyfooting on the surface... > Best wishes for the hols - and for a better new year. > > Eva > > > A relative newcomer, about a year, I too would like to wish all my > FW > > friends the very best. This has become my home base, the list I > feel most > > comfortable on and the discussions of the highest level. I have > grown to > > appreciate Eva, Brad, Jay, Steve, Keith, Ed and Al, but names are > just > > labels, it is the mind behind the label I engage with and enjoy. > Those who > > come and go often leave a trail I follow and so from this home base, > I am > > constantly expanding. > > > > Respectfully, > > > > Thomas Lunde
Re: simulation, models, scenarios
the new report will be on policy and Governance, jsut check in and see how it evolves with the ROUND UP's heiner Steve Kurtz wrote: > Greetings, > > Have a quick look at the work being done by UN Univ: > > http://www.geocities.com/~acunu/millennium/scenarios/SPS.html > > Steve -- Please CC: ALSO !!! to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you have personal, urgent and immediate messages for me which I should not miss! SHARING FUTURES - times, spaces, voices, views, values,.. in SHARED PERSPECTIVE http://newciv.org/cob/members/benking/ http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/homepageHB1.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Heiner BENKING, Box 2060,D - 89010 Ulm WHAT IS NEW... * ON GLOBAL THINKING AND FEELING: http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/ifsr/IFSRnov98pp.htm http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/uiu_plus/isss98/house-of-eyes.htm * ON THINKING & SYMBOL GROUNDING - http://ciiiweb.ijs.si/dialogues/r-benking.htm * ON CYBERCULTURE - http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/m-p/meta-paradigm.htm http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/visual/visualization.htm http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/predicament.htm * ON HUMANITY & WAR - http://www.bfranklin.edu/hubs/global/benking.htm * ON OVERCLAIMS & OVERSIMPLIFICATIONS - http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/overview.htm * ON METAPHORS and AGENTS - http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/aizu/aizu98.htm http://www.uia.org/uiadocs/spatialm.htm http://www.lcc.gatech.edu/~dieberger/ECHT94.WS.toc.html * ON DIALOGUE - http://ciiiweb.ijs.si/dialogues/page1.htm http://www.thur.de/home/annette/gespraech.htm (German) http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/dialogue-culture.htm * ON ME/FUTURES - http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/borderland.htm * ON LEARNING - http://www.urbanspacelab.wien.at/learnday/ http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/edu/education.htm ** Wisdom, imagination and virtue is lost when messages double, information halves, knowledge quarters,... **
Re: Interesting URL for Institute for Social Inventions
one of these is to have dialogue and conversations, another way to make symposia and conferences, giving "VOICES THAT MATTER http://newciv.org/cob/members/benking/voicetxt.html 'HAZEL HANDERSON called the "magic round-tables" a "GOOD SOCIAL INVENTION" so it made it to the rhino's list and repository... If you want to know more go to the database, make your rating, AND see details at: http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/dialogue-culture.htm or: http://newciv.org/cob/members/benking/SharingVoices.html http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/inviting.htm Heiner Benking ON GLOBAL THINKING AND FEELING see: IFSR NEWSLETTER Dez 1998 http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/ifsr/IFSRnov98pp.htm ** Wisdom, imagination and virtue is lost when messages double, information halves, knowledge quarters,... ** Douglas P. Wilson wrote: > I've stumbled across an interesting web page for the Global Ideas Bank > > put up by the Institute for Social Inventions. Even though they claim > to > want "non-technological" inventions -- an oxymoron, by my definition, > I think the basic idea is very similar to the idea behind the term > "social technology". I suggest you all check it out -- it is > > http://www.globalideasbank.org/ >
holism and holarchies : Re: Theobald's Latest Message
we have seen DEE HOCK at last years STATE OF THE WORLD FORUM and have asked KEN WILBER on his FORUM and QUESTION board repeatedly about sources, so far to not avail. As I am not in the habit of getting tired, instead I ask again and again, and this time want to share with you my latest asking for an answer from KEN WILBER. All the matters you raise in review of Theobalds last message are too imported to be only see in fragments.. Heiner ** my last message to KEN WILBERS forum: http://www.shambhala.com/forums/wilber/index.shtml Dear Ken, I receive messages like the one below often. They refer to you and holarchies but I am a little concerned when i do not get answeres from you when I ask you directly why youa re not tracing back beyond TAYLOR and Why you mentioned Jan SMUTS only in EYE to EYE but never again in later publications. Can you or anyone else help? Heiner *** from: Re: Theobald's Latest Message I presume they refer to Dee Hock's non-hierarchical "management-by-a-group-of-equals" structure (chaos/order) see http://www.cascadepolicy.org/dee_hock http://www.funderstanding.com/mailing1.htm Similar structure is proposed by Wilber/Koestler as "holarchical", being the "management structure" that the "most complex holon", the human being, runs by -- see "Brief History of Everything" etc: http://www.shambhala.com/wilber They have similar effect, in my opinion, to the Co-operative structure of Mondragon, and the Direct Democracy structure brought about by "citizen-initiated binding referendum" * from Heiner: I am so free to give some references to help you bundle your thoughts and would love you to read the messages addressed directly to you. Heiner Benking see: http://ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/holismsmuts.htm and http://www.newciv.org/ISSS_Primer/seminar.html we have covered you extensively in teh WHOLENESS SEMINAR (so we are very fond ofg your ideas) but still : ken, DO YOU HAVE AN ANSWER to my QUESTION after reading this!?: http://www.newciv.org/ISSS_Primer/asem09js.html http://www.newciv.org/ISSS_Primer/asem03sd.html Colin Stark wrote: > At 04:56 PM 11/20/98 -1000, Jay Hanson wrote: > >- Original Message - > >From: Caspar Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >>The other question is whether the upswing in energy around Y2K and > >>funddamental change will lead to attempts of various > >>people/organizations to centralize energy flows or whether we shall > be > >>wise enough to set up decentralized/chaordic structures. > > > >What's "decentralized/chaordic structures"? > > I presume they refer to Dee Hock's non-hierarchical > "management-by-a-group-of-equals" structure (chaos/order) see > http://www.cascadepolicy.org/dee_hock > http://www.funderstanding.com/mailing1.htm > > Similar structure is proposed by Wilber/Koestler as "holarchical", > being > the "management structure" that the "most complex holon", the human > being, > runs by -- see "Brief History of Everything" etc: > > http://www.shambhala.com/wilber > > They have similar effect, in my opinion, to the Co-operative structure > of > Mondragon, and the Direct Democracy structure brought about by > "citizen-initiated binding referendum" > > >What problem do they solve? > > hierarchy/dictatorship problems > > Colin Stark > > >Jay -- SHARING FUTURES - times, spaces, voices, views, values,.. in SHARED PERSPECTIVE http://newciv.org/cob/members/benking/ http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/homepageHB1.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Heiner BENKING, Box 2060,D - 89010 Ulm WHAT IS NEW ON ... * CYBERCULTURE - http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/m-p/meta-paradigm.htm http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/visual/visualization.htm http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/predicament.htm * HUMANITY - http://www.bfranklin.edu/hubs/global/benking.htm * METAPHORS and AGENTS - http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/aizu/aizu98.htm http://www.uia.org/uiadocs/spatialm.htm http://www.lcc.gatech.edu/~dieberger/ECHT94.WS.toc.html * THINKING & SYMBOL GROUNDING - http://ciiiweb.ijs.si/dialogues/r-benking.htm * HUMANITY - http://www.bfranklin.edu/hubs/global/benking.htm * DIALOGUE - http://ciiiweb.ijs.si/dialogues/page1.htm http://www.thur.de/home/annette/gespraech.htm (German) http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/dialogue-culture.htm * ME/FUTURES - http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/borderland.htm * LEARNING - http://www.urbanspacelab.wien.at/learnday/ http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/edu/education.htm#Cross-cultural http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/uiu_plus/isss98/house-of-eyes.htm ** Wisdom, imagination and virtue is lost when messages double, information halves, knowledge quarters,... **
info war or peace - globalisation and global learning
something new and different? http://www.bfranklin.edu/hubs/global/benking.htm best regrards heiner benking -- SHARING FUTURES - times, spaces, voices, views, values,.. in SHARED PERSPECTIVE http://newciv.org/cob/members/benking/ http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/homepageHB1.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Heiner BENKING, Box 2060,D - 89010 Ulm ** Wisdom, imagination and virtue is lost when messages double, information halves, knowledge quarters,... **
Re: The X Files ("deus ex machina" excuses)
Thomas Lunde wrote: > Eva wrote: > ramble... strawmen stuff. Just because we strive for rational > decision making, that doesn't mean that individuality should somehow > suffer; and decisions do not have to be "digital" always. > > Eva > YOU REALLY HAVE AN INTERSTING LIST THERE: "Culture and Future! I would like to make you aware of http://www.metaself.org/ maybe you start with: A Metaphor Model of the Self http://www.metaself.org/model/ Social Relationships and Virtues http://www.metaself.org/model/2realm.html this are the basics I fully subscribe to and can recommend after reading night and day. It is the basic building block also to my work and I would have loved to haveit 8 years ago. WE CAN BRIDGE NOW THE CANYON and GO BEYOND WORDS AND LANGUAGES! Heiner > - > SHARING FUTURES http://newciv.org/cob/members/benking/ > > WHAT IS NEW !?: ON CREATIVITY & UNDERSTANDING > http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/landscape.htm > http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/visual/visualization.htm > > http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/uiu_plus/isss98/house-of-eyes.htm > ** > Wisdom, imagination and virtue is lost > when messages double, information halves, knowledge quarters,... > **
Re: It's our final exam
Thomas Lunde wrote: -Original Message- From: Jay Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Future Work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Only the scientists can save us now. But I believe our future is written >in our past -- written in our genes. I expect "chaos and cannibalism". >How could it be otherwise? Thomas: One of the best minds in my opinion, Marshal McLuhan would have said the opposite. It is the artists rather than the scientists who have predicted the future and provided us with the directions that have led our evolution. It is not the counter of beans or the labelers of "facts", but the dreamer of dreams that is humans greatest achievement and that is not necessarily an attribute of intelligence as it is the ability to translate feelings and intuitions into mediums that move other humans. > >Jay -- www.dieoff.com > Dear JAy and Thomas,ONLY the ONLY !? I think it is dangerous this "in the box" thinking of what can safe us. It is neither THE sceintist nor the artist. I struggeled with both communities and even see them fighting for the truth and the turf (salvation through their dogma). Maybe I have a news for you, as you seem to admire Marshall McLuhan: I recently wrote a press Announcement: "The Lady behind the Gutenberg Galaxis" is is about marshalls wife and son comming to open the EUROPEAN McLuhan Center and being at CultH in Vienna http://www.culth.org/. The friend of Marshal who started with him the PERSPECTIVE UNIT at the McLuhan Toronto is nor openting MMI in Mastrich. if you are intersted what we mean by cross-culture "out of the BOX" thinking have a look here: http://www.ceptualinstitute.com/genre/benking/visual/visualization.htm the final exam might be the thinking beyond the categories, the imaginative lateral and diagonal embodied immersive and shared apprach to issues and their realtion andf context, not just WORDS... By4now Heiner
