Re: FVWM: FvwmForm replaces FvwmPrompt (fvwm 2.0.41)
Anno domini 2020 Wed, 26 Aug 22:06:37 +0100 Thomas Adam scripsit: > On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 09:19:40PM +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > Some more history: > > > > sunsite.unc.edu-CD6/X11/window-managers/ > > fvwm-2.0.43.tar.gz 537 KB 12.07.9617:51:56 MESZ > > Yes -- this is already catered for in what's in the git repositories. > > > So 2.0.41 is somewhere between August 1995 and June 1996 - kind of a blind > > spot in my archive. Still it might be in the shrinkwaped box of 1998 which I > > dare not to open ... > > What archive do you own? Is this a private collection or something you've > found on Google? > > -- Thomas Adam > Private collection. My own computer museum from days of adventure long gone by :) Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...
Re: FVWM: FvwmForm replaces FvwmPrompt (fvwm 2.0.41)
On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 09:19:40PM +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Some more history: > > sunsite.unc.edu-CD6/X11/window-managers/ > fvwm-2.0.43.tar.gz537 KB 12.07.9617:51:56 MESZ Yes -- this is already catered for in what's in the git repositories. > So 2.0.41 is somewhere between August 1995 and June 1996 - kind of a blind > spot in my archive. Still it might be in the shrinkwaped box of 1998 which I > dare not to open ... What archive do you own? Is this a private collection or something you've found on Google? -- Thomas Adam
Re: FVWM: FvwmForm replaces FvwmPrompt (fvwm 2.0.41)
On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 03:03:10PM -0400, Dan Espen wrote: > Wow, fvwm history that is before my time? (I think.) I didn't think that was possible! Damn. :) > All I can come up with is a config file with this: > > AddToMenu Module-Popup"Modules" Title > + "Prompt"Module FvwmPrompt "hello" raise > > Looks like it issued a prompt then executed an Fvwm command. Indeed. I can find compilation problems on the fvwm mailing list, but nothing beyond that. > I don't remember FvwmClean either. See: https://manpages.debian.org/jessie/fvwm1/FvwmClean1.1.en.html I'm not sure what problem that solved, but it's interesting! -- Thomas
Re: FVWM: FvwmForm replaces FvwmPrompt (fvwm 2.0.41)
"Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" writes: > Anno domini 2020 Wed, 26 Aug 19:37:03 +0100 > Thomas Adam scripsit: >> Hi, >> >> I'm curious about a piece of Fvwm history. In the git log for fvwm2, >> the initial revision (which is when Jason committed the Fvwm code to >> CVS), notes the following for Fvwm 2.0.41: >> >> Removed FvwmPrompt (use FvwmForm instead, since it's better >> anyways) >> >> This was sometime in 1998, although I'm presuming 2.0.41 was before >> then. >> >> Has anyone gpt any information about FvwmPrompt? If it were a >> forerunner to FvwmForm I've not heard of it before. I note from the >> old mailing list archives that it was a compiled module, but I can't >> find the code anywhere. >> >> Dust off the cobwebs, folks! >> >> I'm only asking as I have just committed a new binary to Fvwm3 called >> "FvwmPrompt", and hadn't realised it had existed already. I thought >> I was being so clever with the choice of name as well... That'll >> teach me! :) >> >> -- Thomas >> >> > > 1998 ... could it be that the SuSE Linux of 1995 has it? I remember I > used fvwm95 around that time. I'll go to archive and check :) > > Nik Wow, fvwm history that is before my time? (I think.) All I can come up with is a config file with this: AddToMenu Module-Popup "Modules" Title + "Button-Bar"Module FvwmButtons + "Clean-Up" Module FvwmClean + "Identify" Module FvwmIdent + "SaveDesktop" Module FvwmSave + "Debug" Module FvwmDebug + "Pager" Module FvwmPager 0 1 + "WinList" Module FvwmWinList + "Background"Module FvwmBacker + "IconBox" Module FvwmIconBox + "Banner"Module FvwmBanner + "Talk" Module FvwmTalk + "Prompt"Module FvwmPrompt "hello" raise Looks like it issued a prompt then executed an Fvwm command. I don't remember FvwmClean either. -- Dan Espen
Re: FVWM: FvwmForm replaces FvwmPrompt (fvwm 2.0.41)
Anno domini 2020 Wed, 26 Aug 19:56:03 +0100 Thomas Adam scripsit: > On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 08:43:45PM +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > Anno domini 2020 Wed, 26 Aug 19:37:03 +0100 > > 1998 ... could it be that the SuSE Linux of 1995 has it? I remember I used > > fvwm95 around that time. I'll go to archive and check :) > > That's not logical. Fvwm95 was a fork. See though: > > https://www.fvwm.org/fvwm-ml/15306.html > > Which takes us back to 1996... > > -- Thomas > > Yes, memory fades and is not that clear any more as it used to be ... ;) Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...
Re: FVWM: FvwmForm replaces FvwmPrompt (fvwm 2.0.41)
On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 08:43:45PM +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Anno domini 2020 Wed, 26 Aug 19:37:03 +0100 > 1998 ... could it be that the SuSE Linux of 1995 has it? I remember I used > fvwm95 around that time. I'll go to archive and check :) That's not logical. Fvwm95 was a fork. See though: https://www.fvwm.org/fvwm-ml/15306.html Which takes us back to 1996... -- Thomas
Re: FVWM: FvwmForm replaces FvwmPrompt (fvwm 2.0.41)
Anno domini 2020 Wed, 26 Aug 19:37:03 +0100 Thomas Adam scripsit: > Hi, > > I'm curious about a piece of Fvwm history. In the git log for fvwm2, the > initial revision (which is when Jason committed the Fvwm code to CVS), notes > the following for Fvwm 2.0.41: > > Removed FvwmPrompt (use FvwmForm instead, since it's better anyways) > > This was sometime in 1998, although I'm presuming 2.0.41 was before then. > > Has anyone gpt any information about FvwmPrompt? If it were a forerunner to > FvwmForm I've not heard of it before. I note from the old mailing list > archives that it was a compiled module, but I can't find the code anywhere. > > Dust off the cobwebs, folks! > > I'm only asking as I have just committed a new binary to Fvwm3 called > "FvwmPrompt", and hadn't realised it had existed already. I thought I was > being so clever with the choice of name as well... That'll teach me! :) > > -- Thomas > > Just checked: SuSE 1995 has FVWM Version: 1.24r I have SuSE from 1998 and 2000 - but those two are still unopened originals :/ Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...
Re: FVWM: FvwmForm replaces FvwmPrompt (fvwm 2.0.41)
Anno domini 2020 Wed, 26 Aug 19:37:03 +0100 Thomas Adam scripsit: > Hi, > > I'm curious about a piece of Fvwm history. In the git log for fvwm2, the > initial revision (which is when Jason committed the Fvwm code to CVS), notes > the following for Fvwm 2.0.41: > > Removed FvwmPrompt (use FvwmForm instead, since it's better anyways) > > This was sometime in 1998, although I'm presuming 2.0.41 was before then. > > Has anyone gpt any information about FvwmPrompt? If it were a forerunner to > FvwmForm I've not heard of it before. I note from the old mailing list > archives that it was a compiled module, but I can't find the code anywhere. > > Dust off the cobwebs, folks! > > I'm only asking as I have just committed a new binary to Fvwm3 called > "FvwmPrompt", and hadn't realised it had existed already. I thought I was > being so clever with the choice of name as well... That'll teach me! :) > > -- Thomas > > 1998 ... could it be that the SuSE Linux of 1995 has it? I remember I used fvwm95 around that time. I'll go to archive and check :) Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...
FVWM: FvwmForm replaces FvwmPrompt (fvwm 2.0.41)
Hi, I'm curious about a piece of Fvwm history. In the git log for fvwm2, the initial revision (which is when Jason committed the Fvwm code to CVS), notes the following for Fvwm 2.0.41: Removed FvwmPrompt (use FvwmForm instead, since it's better anyways) This was sometime in 1998, although I'm presuming 2.0.41 was before then. Has anyone gpt any information about FvwmPrompt? If it were a forerunner to FvwmForm I've not heard of it before. I note from the old mailing list archives that it was a compiled module, but I can't find the code anywhere. Dust off the cobwebs, folks! I'm only asking as I have just committed a new binary to Fvwm3 called "FvwmPrompt", and hadn't realised it had existed already. I thought I was being so clever with the choice of name as well... That'll teach me! :) -- Thomas