Re: Pegasus Mail
> "DYB" == Dmitry Yu Bolkhovityanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DYB> BTW, what's with *.fvwm.org? www is inaccessible, as well as cvs... The machine had a little hardware problem. I fixed it this morning. - J< -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm-workers" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pegasus Mail
Ok, folks, I know that I have to do something to this thing. I'm using PMail mainly because all my correspondence since 1995 is kept there, plus Novell is the most supported service in our institute. And yes, it doesn't support In-reply-to even in the Windows version (at least our Novell guru and PMail translator S.Dubrov says so). And I'm stuck with Dos version anyway (because of DosEmu ;-). Well, thanks for all suggestions, and again sorry for breaking this thread too ;-). BTW, what's with *.fvwm.org? www is inaccessible, as well as cvs... ___ Dmitry Yu. Bolkhovityanov | Novosibirsk, RUSSIA phone (383-2)-39-49-56 | The Budker Institute of Nuclear Physics | Lab. 5-13 -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm-workers" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pegasus Mail
On 4 Aug 2001, at 13:31, Mikhael Goikhman wrote: > Dmitry, you use Pegasus Mail. I don't know whether you noticed, but this > mailer is the only one (there is also /bin/mail) that does not support > threads. When you get dozens of emails daily, threads are essential. > Most mailers (I can list 20) support In-reply-to: header (used to > show threads), some also support References: header (this is used by mail > archives to add links to related messages, usually to all parents). > > Take a look at http://www.hpc.uh.edu/fvwm/archive/0107/threads.html . > You always start a new thread although most of messages are Re: ones. > > Is it an option to change your mailer to a more standard-compliant one? > I can suggest pine for DOS, but there are more (I didn't use any though). > I know it may be a pain. But it was your decision (a bad decision :) ) > to use a non free software, patching a free program to set In-reply-to: > header in replies should not take more than an hour. > > P.S. I remember pmail in 1993, a nice colorfull pseudographics text toy. As a member of the Pegasus Mail tech support team, I do take exception to that remark. Pegasus Mail is live & well, and works just fine. You will find it supports In-reply-to headers. It is considered the most RFC compliant mail-tool on the market. Most of its problems have to do with non-compliant messages from outlook. (basically forcing non-compliance so that other mail tools are not compatable). (And its free!!) Eee Gads. Dmitry. You are using Pegasus Mail 3.50 for Dos??? Alas, that version is no longer supported. The lastest version is 3.12c for windows. Version 4.0 is due out within the next several weeks (that is the version I am using now). You should seriously consider upgrading (www.pmail.com). But, if DOS is the requirement 3.50 should work just fine for you. I'll check to see if 3.50 supports reply- to. Mike --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] To obtain my PGP public key, mail "SEND PUB KEY" in the subject to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm-workers" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pegasus Mail
On 05 Aug 2001 13:48:04 +0200, Dominik Vogt wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 04, 2001 at 01:31:56PM +, Mikhael Goikhman wrote: > > Dmitry, you use Pegasus Mail. I don't know whether you noticed, but this > > mailer is the only one (there is also /bin/mail) that does not support > > threads. When you get dozens of emails daily, threads are essential. > > Most mailers (I can list 20) support In-reply-to: header (used to > > show threads), some also support References: header (this is used by mail > > archives to add links to related messages, usually to all parents). > > > > Take a look at http://www.hpc.uh.edu/fvwm/archive/0107/threads.html . > > You always start a new thread although most of messages are Re: ones. > > Perhaps you should consider using mutt. It can even identify the If you press 'h' in your mutt, you will see that I am using mutt. > correct thread without one of those headers (I guess it's using > the subject). Although it's not perfect (such mails are always > shown as a reply to the first mail in the thread), at least you > get the mails sorted into threads: > >Jul-29 To fvwm-workers What to do for next release? >Jul-30 To fvwm-workers |-> >Aug-02 To fvwm-workers | `-> >Aug-04 To fvwm-workers | `-> >Aug-04 To fvwm-workers `*> > > The last line shows a reply without thread information (indicated > by the asterisk). I know that mutt guesses that a message belong to a thread by its subject and adds it to the end of thread. But this does not help for comunication. Consider a not very complex tree: 1350 Jul-22 Dominik Vogt(2.9K) Some subject 1351 Jul-22 Mikhael Goikhman(3.7K) |-> 1352 Jul-22 Dan Espen (2.7K) | |-> 1353 Jul-22 Mikhael Goikhman(1.3K) | | `-> 1354 Jul-22 Dominik Vogt(6.7K) | `-> 1355 Jul-22 Dmitry Yu. Bolkhovi (7.5K) `*> 1356 Jul-22 Dominik Vogt(4.9K) `-> There is no any chance to know whether 1355 is a reply to Dominik, Dan or me (and if to me, to which message) if a mailer does not supply this info. It is unfortunate that someone uses closed non-standard mailer, that breaks a thread into 2 threads exponentially every time a message is sent. I would just patch it and not whine. Now I can only suggest to switch. Regards, Mikhael. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm-workers" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pegasus Mail
Open you fvwm folder, and choose sort by threads. You can also ctrl-click on the subject header, and it will sort by threads. Mike On 5 Aug 2001, at 13:48, Dominik Vogt wrote: > On Sat, Aug 04, 2001 at 01:31:56PM +, Mikhael Goikhman wrote: > > Dmitry, you use Pegasus Mail. I don't know whether you noticed, but this > > mailer is the only one (there is also /bin/mail) that does not support > > threads. When you get dozens of emails daily, threads are essential. > > Most mailers (I can list 20) support In-reply-to: header (used to > > show threads), some also support References: header (this is used by mail > > archives to add links to related messages, usually to all parents). > > > > Take a look at http://www.hpc.uh.edu/fvwm/archive/0107/threads.html . > > You always start a new thread although most of messages are Re: ones. > > Perhaps you should consider using mutt. It can even identify the > correct thread without one of those headers (I guess it's using > the subject). Although it's not perfect (such mails are always > shown as a reply to the first mail in the thread), at least you > get the mails sorted into threads: > >Jul-29 To fvwm-workers What to do for next release? >Jul-30 To fvwm-workers |-> >Aug-02 To fvwm-workers | `-> >Aug-04 To fvwm-workers | `-> >Aug-04 To fvwm-workers `*> > > The last line shows a reply without thread information (indicated > by the asterisk). > > Bye > > Dominik ^_^ ^_^ > > -- > Dominik Vogt, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- > Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm-workers" in the > body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] To obtain my PGP public key, mail "SEND PUB KEY" in the subject to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm-workers" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pegasus Mail
On Sat, Aug 04, 2001 at 01:31:56PM +, Mikhael Goikhman wrote: > Dmitry, you use Pegasus Mail. I don't know whether you noticed, but this > mailer is the only one (there is also /bin/mail) that does not support > threads. When you get dozens of emails daily, threads are essential. > Most mailers (I can list 20) support In-reply-to: header (used to > show threads), some also support References: header (this is used by mail > archives to add links to related messages, usually to all parents). > > Take a look at http://www.hpc.uh.edu/fvwm/archive/0107/threads.html . > You always start a new thread although most of messages are Re: ones. Perhaps you should consider using mutt. It can even identify the correct thread without one of those headers (I guess it's using the subject). Although it's not perfect (such mails are always shown as a reply to the first mail in the thread), at least you get the mails sorted into threads: Jul-29 To fvwm-workers What to do for next release? Jul-30 To fvwm-workers |-> Aug-02 To fvwm-workers | `-> Aug-04 To fvwm-workers | `-> Aug-04 To fvwm-workers `*> The last line shows a reply without thread information (indicated by the asterisk). Bye Dominik ^_^ ^_^ -- Dominik Vogt, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm-workers" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pegasus Mail
Dmitry, you use Pegasus Mail. I don't know whether you noticed, but this mailer is the only one (there is also /bin/mail) that does not support threads. When you get dozens of emails daily, threads are essential. Most mailers (I can list 20) support In-reply-to: header (used to show threads), some also support References: header (this is used by mail archives to add links to related messages, usually to all parents). Take a look at http://www.hpc.uh.edu/fvwm/archive/0107/threads.html . You always start a new thread although most of messages are Re: ones. Is it an option to change your mailer to a more standard-compliant one? I can suggest pine for DOS, but there are more (I didn't use any though). I know it may be a pain. But it was your decision (a bad decision :) ) to use a non free software, patching a free program to set In-reply-to: header in replies should not take more than an hour. P.S. I remember pmail in 1993, a nice colorfull pseudographics text toy. Regards, Mikhael. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm-workers" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
