Re: [fw-general] Database Migrations - Yes, No, Maybe?
On 7 Nov 2008, at 21:47, Wil Sinclair wrote: If I'm not mistaken, Rob Allen originally proposed DB migrations some time back. Last I heard, he was planning to refactor that proposal to build on Zend_Tool. Rob, how off am I? That's the basic plan - Zend_Tool is the obvious vehicle to use now. (Once I fully understand it's internals!) I didn't expect Zend Framework in Action to take quite as long as it has done though, which is why it's languished as long as it has. I have high hopes to have the time to look at it properly early next year though! Regards, Rob...
RE: [fw-general] Database Migrations - Yes, No, Maybe?
If I'm not mistaken, Rob Allen originally proposed DB migrations some time back. Last I heard, he was planning to refactor that proposal to build on Zend_Tool. Rob, how off am I? ,Wil > -Original Message- > From: Benjamin Eberlei [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 10:41 AM > To: fw-general@lists.zend.com > Subject: Re: [fw-general] Database Migrations - Yes, No, Maybe? > > does not exist and is not planned from what i can see in the proposals > (there > is one proposal, but its inactive for many months). > > if you want to use a formal migration system use Doctrine, Propel or > ezcDatabaseSchema. All great components. Since ZF does not enforce a > model > component on you, its very easy to switch them in. > > Benjamin > > On Friday 07 November 2008 19:15:24 Phoenix wrote: > > Coming to ZF from a Rails background (because I'm much stronger in > PHP > > than in Ruby), one of the things that "irks" me is the *apparent* > lack > > of a formal database migration system. In Rails, you create > migration > > files, define the structure and/or changes in a DB-neutral context, > then > > "run" the migration to have the changes made to your database, be it > > MySQL, Oracle, MSSQL, etc. > > > > Does this functionality exist with Zend Framework at all? I haven't > > seen any mention of it in tutorials or other information, but since > I'm > > new, I figure chances are I'm missing something. If this doesn't > exist, > > is it planned? > > > > Thanks. > > > > -- > Benjamin Eberlei > http://www.beberlei.de
Re: [fw-general] Database Migrations - Yes, No, Maybe?
This is something that I expect we'll see after Zend_Tool is completed and we approach 2.0, along with generators. Trust me, I want to see those things, too. :-) -Matt On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Benjamin Eberlei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > does not exist and is not planned from what i can see in the proposals > (there > is one proposal, but its inactive for many months). > > if you want to use a formal migration system use Doctrine, Propel or > ezcDatabaseSchema. All great components. Since ZF does not enforce a model > component on you, its very easy to switch them in. > > Benjamin > > On Friday 07 November 2008 19:15:24 Phoenix wrote: > > Coming to ZF from a Rails background (because I'm much stronger in PHP > > than in Ruby), one of the things that "irks" me is the *apparent* lack > > of a formal database migration system. In Rails, you create migration > > files, define the structure and/or changes in a DB-neutral context, then > > "run" the migration to have the changes made to your database, be it > > MySQL, Oracle, MSSQL, etc. > > > > Does this functionality exist with Zend Framework at all? I haven't > > seen any mention of it in tutorials or other information, but since I'm > > new, I figure chances are I'm missing something. If this doesn't exist, > > is it planned? > > > > Thanks. > > > > -- > Benjamin Eberlei > http://www.beberlei.de >
Re: [fw-general] Database Migrations - Yes, No, Maybe?
does not exist and is not planned from what i can see in the proposals (there is one proposal, but its inactive for many months). if you want to use a formal migration system use Doctrine, Propel or ezcDatabaseSchema. All great components. Since ZF does not enforce a model component on you, its very easy to switch them in. Benjamin On Friday 07 November 2008 19:15:24 Phoenix wrote: > Coming to ZF from a Rails background (because I'm much stronger in PHP > than in Ruby), one of the things that "irks" me is the *apparent* lack > of a formal database migration system. In Rails, you create migration > files, define the structure and/or changes in a DB-neutral context, then > "run" the migration to have the changes made to your database, be it > MySQL, Oracle, MSSQL, etc. > > Does this functionality exist with Zend Framework at all? I haven't > seen any mention of it in tutorials or other information, but since I'm > new, I figure chances are I'm missing something. If this doesn't exist, > is it planned? > > Thanks. -- Benjamin Eberlei http://www.beberlei.de
