Date and time

[Tivo]

When my Pismo crashes, date and time go blooey. What¹s the problem and
how to solve it? Thanks, Tivo


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Re: Yo Yo Adapter's

[Thomas Ethen]

Sending back the original two, keeping the new ones-checked to see if there
was a difference and the resistance seems to be it. New ones low, old ones
high-high resistance seems to mean heat and sparks.
It's two YO YO's, for two Pismos with low resistance! That's harder to say
five times fast!
Tom
on 7/23/01 17:16, makmac at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

\
> 
> Why are you sending them back if you just got them? Because of the
> resistance? And if you have no idea what this means, why are you checking
> it? 
> 
> And why do you have five yo-yos for two Pismos? (say that 5 times fast ;^)
> 
> Just wondering.
> 
> -makmac
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Re: Yo Yo Adapter's

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Tom Ethen on 7/23/01 5:00 PM wrote:

> I got my adapter's today for both my Pismo's! I checked the resistance on
> all four and the Delta Yo Yo (which sparked a lot) was five times the
> resistance of the new ones, while the Samsung Yo Yo (which only sparked a
> little) was only twice the resistance of the new ones. I have no idea what
> this means, but I thought I would check them out before I send them back to
> Apple.

Why are you sending them back if you just got them? Because of the
resistance? And if you have no idea what this means, why are you checking
it? 

And why do you have five yo-yos for two Pismos? (say that 5 times fast ;^)

Just wondering.

-makmac


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Re: Yo Yo Adapter's

[Tom Ethen]

I got my adapter's today for both my Pismo's! I checked the resistance on
all four and the Delta Yo Yo (which sparked a lot) was five times the
resistance of the new ones, while the Samsung Yo Yo (which only sparked a
little) was only twice the resistance of the new ones. I have no idea what
this means, but I thought I would check them out before I send them back to
Apple.
The new adapter's don't get as hot as the old ones did either!
Tom



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Re: Dead Pismo

[Kyle Hansen]

Mike Ferguson wrote:

> PS - I pushed harder, it clicked, it booted.  Hoorah!

I knew it. YEAH!

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Re: Narcoleptic Pismo?

[Tom Ethen]

I somehow set mine to start up at 2AM and thought for a few of days that I
didn't remember to shut it down the night before. Glad I figured it out
before I signed up for therapy!
Tom


> 
the Energy Saver control panel
> became set to sleep every day at 00.09 without my ever opening it. Go
> figure.
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Re: Narcoleptic Pismo?

[mark gadzikowski]

Thanks for the email and L posts regardign my sleep problem.

It appears my Pismo's narcolepsy was was not the RAM or modem or 
Airport card. Rather, somewhere in my PRAM resets--I always reset 
twice whenever i install hardware--the Energy Saver control panel 
became set to sleep every day at 00.09 without my ever opening it. Go 
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Re: Dead Pismo

[makmac]

Mike Ferguson on 7/23/01 12:19 PM wrote:

> PS - I pushed harder, it clicked, it booted.  Hoorah!
> 
...and they all lived happily ever after!



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Re: Dead Pismo

[Mike Ferguson]

"crust r." wrote:

> >Perhaps resetting the Power Manager will help. I believe this will also
> >reset the PRAM.
> >
> >-makmac
>
> make sure you have the memory in the top
> slot removed, because the place you need to push to make the connection for
> the card is directly underneath where the chip would be. There will be an
> audible click, and you will feel it as it hits. Then reinstall the top
> memory chip. I was a mess for about an hour there,

crust, makmac, kyle,

truly, the next time anyone asks me why I continue to pin my colours to the
Cupertino mast I will tell them of the momentous day when, from across the
world, the massed armies of mac afficionados rallied round to save one poor
little Pismo from a life as a doorstop.  The story will be handed down through
the generations, doubtless growing more fantastical with the telling ("no, it
was a 6Gb RAM chip he was trying to install, not a 4Gb one", etc.), but the
core message, of these  fabled beings' devotion  to their platform in the face
of the Redmondian onslaught, will always shine through...oh, must stop now, I'm
gushing:)

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Re: Wallstreet upgrade from Sonnet

[Black Rabite]

On Monday, July 23, 2001, at 12:29 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:

> Hmmm, still, I would definitely go for the 466 and give up the 34 MHz in
> speed boost, than pay $150 more to get it. It seems that 34 MHz doesn't
> worth it...

I forget where I read this, but a simple way to compare the value of 
upgrades like this is to divide the speed by the price, highest number is 
"best" value. You will always pay a premium to get the highest speed.

500 MHz / $399 = 1.25 MHz/$
466 MHz / $249 = 1.87 MHz/$

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Re: Dead Pismo

[crust r.]

>Perhaps resetting the Power Manager will help. I believe this will also
>reset the PRAM.
>
>-makmac


Good idea. And I can only echo what someone else said: make sure you have 
the processor card seated. I put some new memory into my own Pismo a week 
ago, and had the same result: dead Pismo. After trying to reseat the damn 
processor card for the 5th time or so, I finally pulled out the manual...and 
it says pretty clearly in there, make sure you have the memory in the top 
slot removed, because the place you need to push to make the connection for 
the card is directly underneath where the chip would be. There will be an 
audible click, and you will feel it as it hits. Then reinstall the top 
memory chip. I was a mess for about an hour there, thinking I'd killed my 
Pismo - which is my ONLY computer, and which I've only had a few months (and 
which is the best computer I've ever owned!).



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Re: Dead Pismo

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 7/23/01 11:50 AM wrote:

> Now I don't think that a supposedly dead Powerbook
> should be drawing ANY current, much less enough to
> cause it to heat up like it has.  I've now removed the
> battery, 'cos I'm worried.
> 
> This give anyone any more clues?
> 
Perhaps resetting the Power Manager will help. I believe this will also
reset the PRAM.

-makmac


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Re: Wallstreet upgrade from Sonnet

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On Monday, July 23, 2001, at 12:16  PM, makmac wrote:

> Laurent Daudelin on 7/18/01 3:25 PM wrote:
>
>>> So, there is something I don't get. If your fellow didn't see a huge
>>> speed gain from 233 to 466, why would one pay $399 for a 500 when 
>>> there
>>> is the 466 at $249? The speed increase from 466 to 500 must be really
>>> minimal, or is there something I'm missing?
>>>
> Then makmac on 7/18/01 4:07 PM wrote:
>
>> Good question, I'll call and ask him.
>>
>
>
> I asked him. There are two reasons. One, it was a 300MHz Wallstreet (my
> mistake). Two, he says he bought it to run OSX and he wanted all the 
> RAM he
> could get.
>
> Since he was limited by RAM and speed, along with the fact that he has 
> more
> money than patience, he sold the Wallstreet and promptly bought a G4
> Titanium (to compliment his new iBook). The poor fellow suffers 
> so... ;^)
>
>> Your question got me to thinking. Why does PowerLogix 500MHz cost over 
>> twice
>> as much (at $579) as it's 466MHz (at $249)? Perhaps that little 34MHz 
>> boost
>> provides a much more substantial increase that one might suspect.
>>
>
> Well, per someone else's post, this is now a mute point since the price 
> is
> dropping to $399. No doubt they saw Sonnet's press release.

Hmmm, still, I would definitely go for the 466 and give up the 34 MHz in 
speed boost, than pay $150 more to get it. It seems that 34 MHz doesn't 
worth it...

-Laurent.
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Re: Wallstreet upgrade from Sonnet

[makmac]

Laurent Daudelin on 7/18/01 3:25 PM wrote:

>> So, there is something I don't get. If your fellow didn't see a huge
>> speed gain from 233 to 466, why would one pay $399 for a 500 when there
>> is the 466 at $249? The speed increase from 466 to 500 must be really
>> minimal, or is there something I'm missing?
>> 
Then makmac on 7/18/01 4:07 PM wrote:

> Good question, I'll call and ask him.
> 


I asked him. There are two reasons. One, it was a 300MHz Wallstreet (my
mistake). Two, he says he bought it to run OSX and he wanted all the RAM he
could get. 

Since he was limited by RAM and speed, along with the fact that he has more
money than patience, he sold the Wallstreet and promptly bought a G4
Titanium (to compliment his new iBook). The poor fellow suffers so... ;^)

> Your question got me to thinking. Why does PowerLogix 500MHz cost over twice
> as much (at $579) as it's 466MHz (at $249)? Perhaps that little 34MHz boost
> provides a much more substantial increase that one might suspect.
> 

Well, per someone else's post, this is now a mute point since the price is
dropping to $399. No doubt they saw Sonnet's press release.

-makmac


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Re: New adapter hard to plug in

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Jeff Lentz on 7/23/01 7:41 AM wrote:

> I hate to even post another comment on the adapter
> exchange program, but my newly-replaced adapter's plug
> is extremely tight in the power jack and I'm worried
> it will damage the jack's mount.  Anyone else have
> similar concerns/experiences?  If it does break off
> the mounting for the jack, would Apple repair it out
> of warranty because it's due to the new adapter?
> 

Mine was far too tight in my Wallstreet and since I recall a much earlier
post from someone who damaged the AC port on his Wallstreet after 2 weeks of
using a yo-yo adapter (prior to the recall) I decided to loosen up mine.

I rather barbaricly spread out the shield on the plug using a flat blade
screwdriver. I slowly worked the screwdriver around the perimeter of the
shield prying it outward. This resulted in a tiny gap at the seam of the
shield which loosened it up enough to relieve the tightness. I was careful
not to apply any significant pressure (while prying) to the jack in the
center as I didn't want to break it. I repeated this until it was loosened
up enough. It's still tighter than my original black AC but I feel more
comfortable with it.

Now it fits quite nicely. I don't think it would have loosened up enough
over time. I figured it would be less costly to break the adapter than end
up needing to replace the power board in my Wallstreet.

 Do this at your own risk of course. 

-makmac


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Re: New adapter hard to plug in

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On Monday, July 23, 2001, at 07:41  AM, Jeff Lentz wrote:

> I hate to even post another comment on the adapter
> exchange program, but my newly-replaced adapter's plug
> is extremely tight in the power jack and I'm worried
> it will damage the jack's mount.  Anyone else have
> similar concerns/experiences?  If it does break off
> the mounting for the jack, would Apple repair it out
> of warranty because it's due to the new adapter?
>
> - Jeff Lentz


I have the same problem!   that little sucker takes both hands to 
remove from the back of my powerbook.  Judging from experience with my 
5300's jack mount comming lose, I'm definately very worried.



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Re: New adapter hard to plug in

[Remy Davison]

>I hate to even post another comment on the adapter
>exchange program, but my newly-replaced adapter's plug
>is extremely tight in the power jack and I'm worried
>it will damage the jack's mount.  Anyone else have
>similar concerns/experiences?  If it does break off
>the mounting for the jack, would Apple repair it out
>of warranty because it's due to the new adapter?
I'm awaiting my new one, but I do have a spare yoyo adapter I've used 
with both the Wallstreet & the Lombard for about 9 months. They're 
somewhat tight when new (like most things, like coffee plungers), but 
wear in pretty quickly. It's no tighter or looser than the standard black 
adapter (we should christen the black baby adapter sometime - 'Son of 
Delta'; 'Idiot from Quanta Who Subcontracted Delta' or something?).

Cheers,

RD

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Narcoleptic 512M RAM module with Ricochet modem?

[anthony petito]

I use a 512 MB Ram chip from OWC in my pismo 400 with an apple airport card
in use all the time. Never had this problem. My 512 MB chip is in the bottom
slot.

> 
> Message-Id: 
> Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 05:39:35 -0700
> From: mark gadzikowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Narcoleptic 512M RAM module with Ricochet modem?
> 
> Does anyone else with 512M modules in a Pismo encounter sleep
> unexpectedly? My Pismo 400 (1g RAM/20g HD - MacOS9.1) has started to
> sleep without warning. Luckily, it's a graceful shut down each time,
> but the bottom line is that I'm not triggering it on purpose.
> 
> The unexpected sleep appears to be related to an upgrade from 384 MB
> RAM (256M MemoryX + 64M Apple, both 3-2-2) to 1G (512M OWC + 512M
> OWC, both 2-2-2). While unexpected sleep appears to occur only with a
> 512M module, this does not appear to be linked to any particular 512M
> module;  I have tested four different OWC 512M modules and have had
> unexpected sleep occur with all combinations, even when I've tested
> one of the 512M with a 64M or 256M.
> 
> This surprise sleep occurs only during operation with battery, not
> while running on AC power. This sleep occurs despite active
> connections with a cardbus modem (Merlin for Ricochet wireless). I
> think it may occur _only_ with an active Ricochet connection. The
> modem alone doesn't trigger sleep. Does this imply the 512M modules
> are drawing too much power in combination with the modem?
> 
> Anyone else using a cardbus card with 512M RAM modules experience
> unexpected sleep?


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New adapter hard to plug in

[Jeff Lentz]

I hate to even post another comment on the adapter
exchange program, but my newly-replaced adapter's plug
is extremely tight in the power jack and I'm worried
it will damage the jack's mount.  Anyone else have
similar concerns/experiences?  If it does break off
the mounting for the jack, would Apple repair it out
of warranty because it's due to the new adapter?

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Re: Dead Pismo

[mikeferguson]

We have a new symptom

After Kyle's (helpful) post following my original cry for 
help, I went back and took my book apart again to 
jiggle the processor card about a bit to seat it properly.

When I did this I noticed that the processor, the heat 
shield and the heat sink were all hot to the touch (not 
burning, but hot).  Now, the thing hasn't booted, but it's 
definitely drawing enough power from the battery (which 
I just stuck back in when I reassembled it) to cause this 
heating.  I put it all back together again, battery 
included, and left it for ten minutes and checked again - 
sure enough the heat shield and sink were hot again.  
And in the interim it still wouldn't boot.

Now I don't think that a supposedly dead Powerbook 
should be drawing ANY current, much less enough to 
cause it to heat up like it has.  I've now removed the 
battery, 'cos I'm worried.

This give anyone any more clues?

PS On a lighter note, the PB1400 I bought on eBay last 
week arrived this morning just after the Pismo died - 
perfect timing, though I wish I'd been able to introduce 
them to each other (sniff, sniff...)

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Re: Dead Pismo

[Kyle Hansen]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Oh dear, I've killed it.
> Trying to install a 256Mb upgrade in the bottom slot.
> Put it all back together again, pressed go and nothing,
> nada.

The processor is probably not fully seated.  Reseat it and see what
happens.  It's a common thing with Pismo's.  Also.  Note that you are not
supposed to remove the heat sink from the Microprocessor board.  The 2
small phillips headed screws are supposed to stay connected, otherwise you
remove the thermal transfer pad from between the processor and the
heatsink.  It'll probably be fine, but if you are anywhere near an
electronics store get some thermal conductive glue and put a small amount
(3mm wide line) around the edge of the thermal transfer pad, so that the
connection remains solid.  In the future just remove the one long screw off
to the left and leave the heatsink assembly attached to the microprocessor
board.

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Dead Pismo

[mikeferguson]

Oh dear, I've killed it.
Trying to install a 256Mb upgrade in the bottom slot.
Put it all back together again, pressed go and nothing,
nada.
Here's what I did:
1.  Popped off the keyboard
2.  Took the two screws out of the heat shield over the
processer, and the longer one out of the big heatsink
under the lower left hand side of the keyboard.
3.  Pulled gently at the tab on the side of the processer
card to lift it out.  It was very reluctant.  So I pulled the
one for the hard drive (which came out quite easily),
then had another go.  Eventually it came free, though it
felt more difficult than I had expected.  And in the
process I knocked the heatsink off the top of the
processer (though this seemed to clip back on OK).  But
I didn't hear any 'breaking' noises.
4.  Removed the old 64 chip and replaced it with the
new 256 one.
5.  Reversed the above.  The processer card went back
in quite smoothly, and I felt it had engaged OK in that
big socket with all the little pins.
Question - could I have dislodged something during this
process?  If so, what, where, and is there an online
resource which can show me how to put it back?
I'm 99% sure I haven't fried it with static - I discharged
myself and didn't move while I was working on a clean
desk etc etc.
Any and all help gratefully received before I reluctantly
admit my failure to a £50 per hour techie.

TIA

Mike

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