Re: G5

[Mark Benson]

On Tuesday, Jun 24, 2003, at 14:39 Europe/London, Brendan McAlpine 
wrote:

The real question is, when do we get G5 powered powerbooks?

I heard that it was mentioned in the keynote that we should expect 
them in 2 quarters.  Is this true?  I haven't been able to find any 
other mention of it.
Best flying guess bassed on rumours from people around the net is 
January MacWorld 2004. Seems sensible and that is 2 quarters away.

Hopefully Panther will come out at the Paris MacWorld Expo, as I'm 
going so I'll be buying that then :).

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Re: Pismo Battery dead

[Laurent Daudelin]

on 24/06/03 21:32, Kurt Appling at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> re; to reset a battery I've had some success with complete dischargeing
> ,placeing it into refridgerator for several ,then recharge as
> usual.I've had ocassions of batteries reading as bad, if hot from use
> or chargeing.
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, June 24, 2003, at 12:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> on 24/06/2003 17:15, G-Books at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>>> Now, I just put it back in and, sure enough, the last LED is blinking.
>>> However, Mac OS X 10.2.6 says the battery is charged, although the
>>> LED is
>>> still blinking. So, it seems it won't recharge anymore. I rebooted in
>>> 9 and
>>> try Battery Reset 2.0 from Apple, but it said that I didn't need it
>>> on my
>>> PowerBook model.
>>> 
>>> Any idea on how to reset the battery? If not, I've seen a few places
>>> that
>>> are selling BatteryTech replacement for my Pismo around $120. Any
>>> gotcha or
>>> recommendation before I take the plunge?
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance!
>>> 
>>> -Laurent.
> 

Yes, that reminds me of someone who did post a similar fix for a Newton
rechargeable battery. I'll put mine in the fridge right now and I'll see
tomorrow...

-Laurent.
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Re: G5

[Laurent Daudelin]

on 24/06/03 21:25, Thomas Ethen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> If we get one of those in our Pismo's then we all can have 20 min batteries!
> 
> Tom
> 
> on 6/24/03 16:37, Mick Ring at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> on 6/24/03 13:14, David M. Ensteness at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>>> That isn't a heat sink, look up the specs on the G5 and the heat it
>>> produces, its not all that hot a processor.
>> 
>> It must be pretty hot because each processor has it's own fan and I'm not
>> talking about those little processor fans.

No chance. The pinup of those chips is way too different to be fit on a
Pismo's daughterboard, or so I was told...

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Re: color stylewriter 4500

[Laurent Daudelin]

on 24/06/03 23:18, |n|i|c|k| at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> hey all,
> first i want to congratulate apple for the G5
> nowI have a wallstreet and the newest os X with all the
> upgrades.and I have a color stylewriter 4500 printer that connects
> through the printer port..the problem is that I cant find any
> drivers for itso I cant print...anyone know how I can print on my
> color stylewriter 4500 in os X??

Unfortunately, you can't. OS X supports only printers on AppleTalk that are
PostScript, or USB-based printers. I had to throw my Color StyleWriter 2400
away, even though I had an AppleTalk module for it.

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Re: G5

[David M. Ensteness]

Instead of arguing over it you guys could just go look up the info ...

David

this regarding how much heat they make.

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Re: G5

[James Rohde]

On 06/24/2003 10:15 AM, Brendan McAlpine wrote:

>
>The real question is, when do we get G5 powered powerbooks?
>
>I heard that it was mentioned in the keynote that we should expect them 
>in 2 quarters.  Is this true?  I haven't been able to find any other 
>mention of it.
>

Bet those laptops will *really* toast your lap... :-)
Heck, my Pismo gets a bit warm on my lap at times!

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Re: G5

[Hamlin Krewson]

Actually 9 fans. 7 of which are designed to run at low speeds. As I 
recall, it also runs cooler (dissipates less heat) than similarly 
clocked G4s and uses less power.

Apple has already stated that Laptops will remain G4 for a while yet.

> 
> RE;look at the interior picture closely, I think those are plastic 
> airflow chambers ,rather like funnels into the fans, 7 fans? are they 
> serious?
> 
> On Tuesday, June 24, 2003, at 12:14 PM, Mick Ring wrote:
> 
>> on 6/24/03 6:39, Brendan McAlpine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>>> The real question is, when do we get G5 powered powerbooks?
>> 
>> It will be a long time. Did you see the size of the heat sinks? And how
>> about a big fan for each processor? Those babies are hot!


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Re: G5

[Kurt Appling]

RE;look at the interior picture closely, I think those are plastic 
airflow chambers ,rather like funnels into the fans, 7 fans? are they 
serious?

On Tuesday, June 24, 2003, at 12:14 PM, Mick Ring wrote:

on 6/24/03 6:39, Brendan McAlpine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The real question is, when do we get G5 powered powerbooks?
It will be a long time. Did you see the size of the heat sinks? And how
about a big fan for each processor? Those babies are hot!


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color stylewriter 4500

[|n|i|c|k|]

hey all,
first i want to congratulate apple for the G5
nowI have a wallstreet and the newest os X with all the 
upgrades.and I have a color stylewriter 4500 printer that connects 
through the printer port..the problem is that I cant find any 
drivers for itso I cant print...anyone know how I can print on my 
color stylewriter 4500 in os X??

thx
n
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Re: gaps in frame TiPB G4

[Clyde Kahrl]

no gaps in mine.

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Re: Pismo Battery dead

[Kurt Appling]

re; to reset a battery I've had some success with complete dischargeing 
,placeing it into refridgerator for several ,then recharge as 
usual.I've had ocassions of batteries reading as bad, if hot from use 
or chargeing.

On Tuesday, June 24, 2003, at 12:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

on 24/06/2003 17:15, G-Books at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Now, I just put it back in and, sure enough, the last LED is blinking.
However, Mac OS X 10.2.6 says the battery is charged, although the 
LED is
still blinking. So, it seems it won't recharge anymore. I rebooted in 
9 and
try Battery Reset 2.0 from Apple, but it said that I didn't need it 
on my
PowerBook model.

Any idea on how to reset the battery? If not, I've seen a few places 
that
are selling BatteryTech replacement for my Pismo around $120. Any 
gotcha or
recommendation before I take the plunge?

Thanks in advance!

-Laurent.


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Re: G5

[Thomas Ethen]

If we get one of those in our Pismo's then we all can have 20 min batteries!

Tom

on 6/24/03 16:37, Mick Ring at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> on 6/24/03 13:14, David M. Ensteness at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> That isn't a heat sink, look up the specs on the G5 and the heat it
>> produces, its not all that hot a processor.
> 
> It must be pretty hot because each processor has it's own fan and I'm not
> talking about those little processor fans.
> 
> 
> -Mick


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Re: G5

[Kurt Appling]

RE; I have a G4 TI PB, I am going to venture a guess,,patience,,see 
what the new IBM chip does in the field first.I hope to soon ask among 
our fellow listers how fast-how hot etc.



On Tuesday, June 24, 2003, at 09:39 AM, Brendan McAlpine wrote:

The real question is, when do we get G5 powered powerbooks?

I heard that it was mentioned in the keynote that we should expect 
them in 2 quarters.  Is this true?  I haven't been able to find any 
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Re: Pismo Battery dead

[Thomas Ethen]

I have the same issue with one of the three batteries I have for my Pismo's
and there seems to be nothing I can do about reviving the almost dead one.

Tom
> I tried running off it and I got about 15 minutes.
> 
> -Laurent.


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Re: G5

[Kochkodin]

>
>
> I think the idea is to have a lot of fans spinning more slowly (and
> quietly) rather than a few spinning quickly (and loudly). Which doesn't
> necessarily imply a hot processor.
>
> TimH
>

For a quiter fan you would want to have a slower revolving prop and smaller
diameter. The faster a prop spins and
the larger the prop the louder it is. This is why propeller designers for
airplanes try to make their props shorter and reduce
their RPMs.

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Re: G5

[Tim Hodgson]

On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 2:37 pm -0700, Mick Ring wrote:

>on 6/24/03 13:14, David M. Ensteness at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> That isn't a heat sink, look up the specs on the G5 and the heat it
>> produces, its not all that hot a processor.
>
>It must be pretty hot because each processor has it's own fan and I'm not
>talking about those little processor fans.

I think the idea is to have a lot of fans spinning more slowly (and
quietly) rather than a few spinning quickly (and loudly). Which doesn't
necessarily imply a hot processor.

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Re: G5

[Donald Keenan]

On Tuesday, June 24, 2003, at 02:00 AM, Wiebe Wilbers wrote:

On 24/6/03 3:52 PM, "John Beringer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

It's been a long time coming...looks like apple finally managed to 
whiz past
the performance put out by wintel...
Right on!

JB
Yep, and not a second too soon either. I can't WAIT to start telling my
windoze loving geek friends... :-)
Wiebe.

Hurrah
! So Apple DOES have its mojo back.
For now at least, Mr. Moore :)
This should stop the condescending remarks from those who don't seem to 
appreciate Apple's workmanship.
Donald

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Re: G5

[Mick Ring]

on 6/24/03 13:14, David M. Ensteness at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> That isn't a heat sink, look up the specs on the G5 and the heat it
> produces, its not all that hot a processor.

It must be pretty hot because each processor has it's own fan and I'm not
talking about those little processor fans.


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Re: G5

[David M. Ensteness]

That isn't a heat sink, look up the specs on the G5 and the heat it 
produces, its not all that hot a processor.

David

On Tuesday, June 24, 2003, at 11:14  AM, Mick Ring wrote:

on 6/24/03 6:39, Brendan McAlpine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The real question is, when do we get G5 powered powerbooks?
It will be a long time. Did you see the size of the heat sinks? And how
about a big fan for each processor? Those babies are hot!
-Mick


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Re: printing from USB (Lombard, OS 9.2.2) to serial (Canon BJC4550)

[Herbert Goodfriend]

Hello all
I'm just settling in with my new Lombard (400 Mhz, OS 9.2.2) and am 
starting to think about printing.
Is there a USB to Serial converter that I can plug into the back?
Would such a converter cost more than a new USB printer?


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I paid $40 for a converter and also had to get a different driver (no 
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printing from USB (Lombard, OS 9.2.2) to serial (Canon

[caribsea]

Not sure if this will help, but I needed to print from my Lombard to my Apple 
Laserwriter 4/600 (serial). I got an Asante unit on eBay and it works great through 
ethernet with a crossover cable. You have to make sure you get the correct Asante Talk 
(I'm not at home and can't tell you which it is). I got a wrong one first. I don't 
know about Canon printers, but if you have the driver and it's serial, I don't know 
why this wouldn't work. The ethernet cable goes from the Lombard to the Asante and a 
cable out of the Asante goes to the serial printer.

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Re: Pismo Battery dead

[Laurent Daudelin]

On 24/06/03 12:24, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> on 24/06/2003 17:15, G-Books at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> Now, I just put it back in and, sure enough, the last LED is blinking.
>> However, Mac OS X 10.2.6 says the battery is charged, although the LED is
>> still blinking. So, it seems it won't recharge anymore. I rebooted in 9 and
>> try Battery Reset 2.0 from Apple, but it said that I didn't need it on my
>> PowerBook model.
>> 
>> Any idea on how to reset the battery? If not, I've seen a few places that
>> are selling BatteryTech replacement for my Pismo around $120. Any gotcha or
>> recommendation before I take the plunge?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance!
>> 
>> -Laurent.
> 
> 
> I assume you tried running off the battery anyway?
> I have a Pismo battery that acts the same way (i.e., only one LED blinking)
> but gives me 2+ hours in OS 9.2.2. It does show up in the Apple battery
> charging control strip module and in My Battery PPC, which both show it
> charging and fully charged. Weird, but works.

I tried running off it and I got about 15 minutes.

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Re: Pismo Battery dead

[csean]

on 24/06/2003 17:15, G-Books at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Now, I just put it back in and, sure enough, the last LED is blinking.
> However, Mac OS X 10.2.6 says the battery is charged, although the LED is
> still blinking. So, it seems it won't recharge anymore. I rebooted in 9 and
> try Battery Reset 2.0 from Apple, but it said that I didn't need it on my
> PowerBook model.
> 
> Any idea on how to reset the battery? If not, I've seen a few places that
> are selling BatteryTech replacement for my Pismo around $120. Any gotcha or
> recommendation before I take the plunge?
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> -Laurent.


I assume you tried running off the battery anyway?
I have a Pismo battery that acts the same way (i.e., only one LED blinking)
but gives me 2+ hours in OS 9.2.2. It does show up in the Apple battery
charging control strip module and in My Battery PPC, which both show it
charging and fully charged. Weird, but works.

Chris


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Re: G5

[Mick Ring]

on 6/24/03 6:39, Brendan McAlpine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> The real question is, when do we get G5 powered powerbooks?

It will be a long time. Did you see the size of the heat sinks? And how
about a big fan for each processor? Those babies are hot!


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Re: G5

[Jim Anderson]

Brendan wrote:
> The real question is, when do we get G5 powered powerbooks?   

I dunno. The real question to me is, when do we get 2GHz
processor upgrades for the Pismo... ;-)

Jim Anderson

Blardy blar blar blar...

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Re: G5

[Jeremy Derr]

On Tuesday, June 24, 2003, at 08:39 AM, Brendan McAlpine wrote:

The real question is, when do we get G5 powered powerbooks?

I heard that it was mentioned in the keynote that we should expect 
them in 2 quarters.  Is this true?  I haven't been able to find any 
other mention of it.
i don't recall hearing that in the keynote. i wasn't paying 100% 
attention, though. the only time-frame I heard was "within 12 months" 
for the G5 to hit 3GHz.

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Re: printing from USB (Lombard, OS 9.2.2) to serial (CanonBJC4550)

[Laurent Daudelin]

On 24/06/03 09:41, "Andrew King" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello all
> I'm just settling in with my new Lombard (400 Mhz, OS 9.2.2) and am
> starting to think about printing.
> Is there a USB to Serial converter that I can plug into the back?
> Would such a converter cost more than a new USB printer?

Possibly ;-)

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Display screen for Lombard 333 MHz

[Herbert Goodfriend]

Is the display screen for the Lombard 400MHz the same as the screen 
for the 333MHz? It looks the same but the wires are a different color.

(I own a 333 and am considering the purchase of a screen pulled from a 400.)

Herb Goodfriend

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printing from USB (Lombard, OS 9.2.2) to serial (CanonBJC4550)

[Andrew King]

Hello all
I'm just settling in with my new Lombard (400 Mhz, OS 9.2.2) and am 
starting to think about printing.
Is there a USB to Serial converter that I can plug into the back?
Would such a converter cost more than a new USB printer?

I've also got a internal VST superdisk for floppy disks but have noticed 
that the drive clicks and whirs when I start up the computer (with no 
floppy inside). Is this normal?
Was there ever an Apple internal floppy or was the Wallstreet the last 
powerbook to have that option?

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Re: G5

[Brendan McAlpine]

The real question is, when do we get G5 powered powerbooks?

I heard that it was mentioned in the keynote that we should expect them 
in 2 quarters.  Is this true?  I haven't been able to find any other 
mention of it.

Brendan

On Tuesday, June 24, 2003, at 02:00 AM, Wiebe Wilbers wrote:

On 24/6/03 3:52 PM, "John Beringer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

It's been a long time coming...looks like apple finally managed to 
whiz past
the performance put out by wintel...
Right on!

JB
Yep, and not a second too soon either. I can't WAIT to start telling my
windoze loving geek friends... :-)
Wiebe.

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