Re: PISMO CAN'T FIND SYSTEM
Drew. I got the machine running again. The case was that I thougt that the arrow up key was the option key. After being puzzled for a long time the switch went on. That made a big difference. And the sound didn't sound because the soundlevel was at 0. Thank you so much. You are my hero! What a knowledge. Now i have to find out how to show my old firewire HD on the desktop. Do i have to use jumpers? - Original Message - From: Andrew Kershaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: G-Books [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 1:17 AM Subject: Re: PISMO CAN'T FIND SYSTEM Thank you Drew. I tried all your hints but Pismo doesn't make a start up sound. It goes straight to a grey screen with a small folder in the middle wich switches to a system icon and a question mark. What to do? That's strange. Some Macs when muted don't sound the startup chime... Don't know if that's the case with the Pismo or not... Try this: As soon as you hit the power button, hold down Apple-Option-O-F to boot into OpenFirmware. You should get a white-ish/grey screen with a text interface (it will look a bit like DOS does). Type reset-all return at the prompt. You Mac should reboot after you hit the return key. Then try holding down Apple-option-p-r to reset the PRAM... If after doing all this booting from a CD still doesn't work (by holding the c key at startup), then who knows... Failing all that, I'd check all the connections again - make sure to check that the keyboard is plugged in correctly, that all the RAM is seated correctly, and that both ends of the hard drive cable are firmly seated. You might even try using an external keyboard, just to be on the safe side. I'm also rather surprised that the PRAM reset didn't sound the startup chime the second time. Not that I doubt you, but are you sure you pressed all four buttons at the same time and that you pressed them immediately after (or even during) the startup chime (or right after pushing down the power button), then held them down until the screen lit up, went dark, PowerBook restarted, and repeated once or twice? The fact that you didn't hear a startup chime sounds odd - a PRAM reset done correctly _always_ sounds the startup chime on the re-boot. If that still doesn't work, then I'm stumped. Peace, Drew -- Author of ClassicStumbler email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.alksoft.com/ Visit the PowerBook 5300 FAQ! http://www.alksoft.com/5300_FAQ/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Removing Previous System Files
On Monday, October 6, 2003, at 10:56 PM, Tom Peterson wrote: Good luck. Unless you have enabled root access in netinfo, your admin password will not work using su- . Go to netinfo in the volume/applications/utilities. There is a menu item for enabling root access. It involves putting a password on the root login. Then su- will become very dangerous. :+) and work. then type sudo rm -r Previous\ Systems Note that they are using the sudo command and not su. They are two entirely separate commands. Sudo, followed by a command, will prompt you for your password. Once you successfully enter your password, that command will be run as the root (or another) user on the system. By default under OS X, the root user, and anyone with admin privileges (ie the user you created during your OS X install) will have the ability to run any command as root via sudo. This access is controlled by a file called /etc/sudoers, and can be edited with the visudo command. That file, and the command to edit it can be accessed only at the command line. Sudo is nice in that you can give someone rights to only run a single command or shell script as root, even if they are not a root or admin equivalent. Typing man sudo at the command prompt will give you a ton of information on the sudo command and all it's permutations. Hope this helps... Steve -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: PISMO CAN'T FIND SYSTEM
On Tuesday, October 7, 2003, at 02:47 AM, Sakshin de Groot wrote: Now i have to find out how to show my old firewire HD on the desktop. Do i have to use jumpers? Most firewire cases want to have the hard drive jumpered as master in order to work properly with the firewire bridgeboard. There should be a jumper on the drive, and a set of pins labeled either M and S, or M, S, and C depending on the drive. Place the jumper on the pair labeled M (for Master) and the drive should be ready to go with the case. Steve -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Install OS 9 on G4 867?
I recently purchased a G4 867 to replace my workhorse PB 3400. One of the selling points for my boss was the ability to retain my ton of legacy SCSI devices like scanners, especially my old Color OneScanner, which is perfect to carry on the road. I was expecting to be able to boot my new G4 into OS 9, but when I select start up disk there's no OS 9 folder. The system does run Classic Environment, but will not boot to OS 9. So, is it possible to install OS 9 on this new PowerBook? I have a copy of the OX 9.1 disk that came with my OS X install disks when I upgraded all the office desktops. Also have the PowerBook restore disks, but that doesn't seem to have OS 9 on them, unless I just looked in the wrong place. All suggestions gladly received - thanks! Ken Strayhorn Duke University -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: is my powerbook dead?
While it eliminates your hard drive it does not eliminate other possibilities such as a loose connection or perhaps a cracked circuit board. It's my understanding that Apple has a flat charge for repairing Powerbooks. If you are not comfortable doing a teardown rebuild yourself, it may pay for you to take it to them for repair. Just a thought. Joe Ellis - Original Message - From: Brendan McAlpine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: G-Books [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 5:27 PM Subject: Re: is my powerbook dead? Haven't dropped it recently, but it does take its share of abuse in my shoulder bag when I ride the subway, carry it to school / work for the last 3 years. I tried connecting and booting up from an external firewire drive and I get the same results. This would eliminate the internal drive as a problem, and would also eliminate kernel panics because of the OS 10.2.8 update as the machine displayed the same issue when booting from an external drive with a fresh install of jaguar. Should I just chalk this up to wear and tear finally taking its toll? It doesn't always lock up when I move it, and sometimes it just locks when I am doing random things like writing an email, or unplugging the power cord. argh...i wanted to wait for a G5 powerbook, but it looks like I may have a trip to the apple store in my immediate futureanyone have any other ideas or similar experiences? TIA Brendan On Thursday, October 2, 2003, at 02:58 PM, Joe Ellis wrote: - Original Message - From: Brendan McAlpine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: G-Books [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 1:57 PM Subject: Re: is my powerbook dead? Did that alreadystill no dice. The machine locks up at random times, like when I plug in the power cord (sometimes) or when I move the machine. I think its just on its way out. Any other ideas? You may have a hard drive that's going bad, have you tried booting it off a firewire drive, plugging it in, and moving it and getting lockups implies that something may be loose and floating around inside the case causing flakey operation, have you dropped it recently? Joe Ellis -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Install OS 9 on G4 867?
I have heard that the newest tower G4s cannot boot into OS 9 because the firmware prevents it. You can run in Classic mode but that's all. -tom -- From: Ken Strayhorn Subject: Install OS 9 on G4 867? I recently purchased a G4 867 to replace my workhorse PB 3400. One of the selling points for my boss was the ability to retain my ton of legacy SCSI devices like scanners, especially my old Color OneScanner, which is perfect to carry on the road. I was expecting to be able to boot my new G4 into OS 9, but when I select start up disk there's no OS 9 folder. The system does run Classic Environment, but will not boot to OS 9. So, is it possible to install OS 9 on this new PowerBook? I have a copy of the OX 9.1 disk that came with my OS X install disks when I upgraded all the office desktops. Also have the PowerBook restore disks, but that doesn't seem to have OS 9 on them, unless I just looked in the wrong place. All suggestions gladly received - thanks! Ken Strayhorn Duke University -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Install OS 9 on G4 867?
Whoever had the powerbook before you put just OS X on it, and did not set it up to dual boot into 9. The only PowerBooks that cannot run OS 9 are the Aluminum ones. Steve -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Removing Previous System Files
Tom Peterson wrote: Good luck. Unless you have enabled root access in netinfo, your admin password will not work using su- . Go to netinfo in the volume/applications/utilities. There is a menu item for enabling root access. It involves putting a password on the root login. Then su- will become very dangerous. :+) and work. Which is why I told him to use sudo instead... -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: System version on 12 PB 867
Hal wrote: So, if I clone my drive from my TiBook (800mHz) running 10.2.8, it should work just fine in the AlBook? I'd hate to have to reinstall everything all over again. Yeppers. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: is my powerbook dead?
Thanks Seeing as I need this laptop for work / school (I use it from 8AM until I go to sleep) I can't afford to be without it for any period of time. Today I rode up to the apple store in soho, plunked down my credit card, and walked out with a new 15 AlBook. The machine is amazing. Once I've migrated everything off the old TiBook, I'm going to run it as an MP3 serverthat is after I tear it apart to find out what the problem was. Thanks for the helpIt would have been nice to have been spared the expense of the new laptop, but oh well Brendan On Tuesday, October 7, 2003, at 08:55 AM, Joe Ellis wrote: While it eliminates your hard drive it does not eliminate other possibilities such as a loose connection or perhaps a cracked circuit board. It's my understanding that Apple has a flat charge for repairing Powerbooks. If you are not comfortable doing a teardown rebuild yourself, it may pay for you to take it to them for repair. Just a thought. Joe Ellis - Original Message - From: Brendan McAlpine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: G-Books [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 5:27 PM Subject: Re: is my powerbook dead? Haven't dropped it recently, but it does take its share of abuse in my shoulder bag when I ride the subway, carry it to school / work for the last 3 years. I tried connecting and booting up from an external firewire drive and I get the same results. This would eliminate the internal drive as a problem, and would also eliminate kernel panics because of the OS 10.2.8 update as the machine displayed the same issue when booting from an external drive with a fresh install of jaguar. Should I just chalk this up to wear and tear finally taking its toll? It doesn't always lock up when I move it, and sometimes it just locks when I am doing random things like writing an email, or unplugging the power cord. argh...i wanted to wait for a G5 powerbook, but it looks like I may have a trip to the apple store in my immediate futureanyone have any other ideas or similar experiences? TIA Brendan On Thursday, October 2, 2003, at 02:58 PM, Joe Ellis wrote: - Original Message - From: Brendan McAlpine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: G-Books [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 1:57 PM Subject: Re: is my powerbook dead? Did that alreadystill no dice. The machine locks up at random times, like when I plug in the power cord (sometimes) or when I move the machine. I think its just on its way out. Any other ideas? You may have a hard drive that's going bad, have you tried booting it off a firewire drive, plugging it in, and moving it and getting lockups implies that something may be loose and floating around inside the case causing flakey operation, have you dropped it recently? Joe Ellis -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions:
