Re: Large or small (was Pismo vs ibook?)
why does the vst zip not work in X mine works fine on my lombard in 10.1.5. vicki On Wednesday, October 6, 2004, at 06:09 AM, Iain McShane wrote: All, Pismo vs ibook I just have just bought a Pismo 400Mhz, installed 768M RAM and a 60Gig Drive, it also came with a VST 6Gig drive bay, VST 250M Zip (does not work in OSX) and two batteries. Also had an Airport card installed. Was in a cafe yesterday, used bluetooth and Nokia over GPRS to get mail, works great! Ease of use, upgradeability, tough, expandability and has the ability to use current OS and peripherals. I have now given up my G3 900Mhz iBook, gave it to the girlfriend to play the Sims. Cheers, Iain On Oct 6, 2004, at 1:40 PM, Andrew F. wrote: Perhaps your religious zeal annoyed me. Andrew On 10/5/04 10:31 PM, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The National Enquirer reports at 10:17 PM -0700 10/5/04, Andrew F. wrote: Religious zeal or not, Wallstreet and similar models are still too big. Good grief, give it a break. You made your feelings known long ago. You're free to think what you want, but nobody died and made you the final authority. You obviously don't respect other people's opinions. I'm beginning to wonder why we should care what you think. Bob -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Large or small (was Pismo vs ibook?)
VST's support site said it was not supported in OS X, so I did not pursue it, I did try the Iomega drivers but got an installation error (ioware-mx-ppc-402.sit) Error is, error creating folder 1008:9,-5000 access is denied On Oct 6, 2004, at 3:51 PM, victoria Duggan wrote: why does the vst zip not work in X mine works fine on my lombard in 10.1.5. vicki On Wednesday, October 6, 2004, at 06:09 AM, Iain McShane wrote: All, Pismo vs ibook I just have just bought a Pismo 400Mhz, installed 768M RAM and a 60Gig Drive, it also came with a VST 6Gig drive bay, VST 250M Zip (does not work in OSX) and two batteries. Also had an Airport card installed. Was in a cafe yesterday, used bluetooth and Nokia over GPRS to get mail, works great! Ease of use, upgradeability, tough, expandability and has the ability to use current OS and peripherals. I have now given up my G3 900Mhz iBook, gave it to the girlfriend to play the Sims. Cheers, Iain On Oct 6, 2004, at 1:40 PM, Andrew F. wrote: Perhaps your religious zeal annoyed me. Andrew On 10/5/04 10:31 PM, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The National Enquirer reports at 10:17 PM -0700 10/5/04, Andrew F. wrote: Religious zeal or not, Wallstreet and similar models are still too big. Good grief, give it a break. You made your feelings known long ago. You're free to think what you want, but nobody died and made you the final authority. You obviously don't respect other people's opinions. I'm beginning to wonder why we should care what you think. Bob -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Problems with OS 9.2 applications opening
At 07:57 PM -0500 10/05/2004, DPrice wrote: While in OS X environment some 9.2 app's won't open: Nisus 4.6 for one, Simple Text, however, MS Word does fine. Any suggestions or advice? TIA Make sure the app's prefs are in the right place and all the file protections (permissions) give the appropriate access. Also try starting Classic first. That seems to make a diff sometimes. - Dan. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
In shoe box. In middle of road!
I travelled around the world in 1984 with a Fat Mac in the special bag on one shoulder, as well as a largish portable stereo nearly as big as the fat mac, a fold over suit bag which as well as clothes had an imagewriter (yes, an imagewriter!) printer inside the zippered 'middle', and a brief case and camera case as my carry on bags. And one pretty heavy suitcase. Love my Pismo. Or should I say, love my Pismos, or will as soon as we get the second, just bought on ebay in US and upgraded to G4 550, running. S. On 06/10/2004, at 7:11 AM, G-Books wrote: Even today, many times I find my newish (rev B) 12 PowerBook to be a bit too bulky and instead grab my 4-year-old laptop PC, which instead of 4.6lbs weighs only 3.4. If Apple would take the current 12 PB and shave 1/2 of thickness and 1lb of weight (by ditching the optical drive), I'd buy one right away. Andrew Can I chuckle about that, Andrew? I remember hauling my 128k/256k original Mac (with an internal 10MB hard drive, which made it even heavier) back and forth to work in an Apple carrying bag for 3 years. Talking about heavy!! -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
vst disc in X
On Wednesday, October 6, 2004, at 07:08 AM, Iain McShane wrote: VST's support site said it was not supported in OS X, so I did not pursue it, I did try the Iomega drivers but got an installation error (ioware-mx-ppc-402.sit) Error is, error creating folder 1008:9,-5000 access is denied On Oct 6, 2004, at 3:51 PM, victoria Duggan wrote: why does the vst zip not work in X mine works fine on my lombard in 10.1.5. vicki Hi i did not install any drivers i just put the drive in the bay without thinking and asp recognizes it, and the drive works fine just takes a couple of seconds to load a disc. And before i get loads of replies to this i mean about 4 seconds not minutes. I can write to the disc and also install bits from it and it reads 100mb or 250mb discs, the discs when inserted show up like a installer drive in X all white. vicki -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Large or small (was Pismo vs ibook?)
Aha so the difference is found. The wallstreet leaves lots of room between my six-pack and the forward edge of my laptop. Well now all is understandable! On Oct 6, 2004, at 12:22 AM, Andrew F. wrote: The small machines, on the other hand, are quite comfortable to use on a tray table in coach, and even allow some empty space between my larger-than-I'd-prefer gut and the forward edge of my laptop. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Large or small (was Pismo vs ibook?)
Larger than I'd prefer is 36 (my waistband). While not a six-pack, hardly obese either. Andrew --- Dan Palka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aha so the difference is found. The wallstreet leaves lots of room between my six-pack and the forward edge of my laptop. Well now all is understandable! On Oct 6, 2004, at 12:22 AM, Andrew F. wrote: The small machines, on the other hand, are quite comfortable to use on a tray table in coach, and even allow some empty space between my larger-than-I'd-prefer gut and the forward edge of my laptop. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Welcome rama chavy
Thanks for bringing your enthusiasm to the list! Turtle-Bear On Oct 4, 2004, at 2:01 PM, crap mail wrote: sorry didn't mean to offend, i put all my list servers on that email(personal joke) because of harvester programs/bots that will collect your email addresses for spam purposes. i didn't think i would have much info i could offer so i never planned on posting. my name is rama chavy and i will change my account email to my name/email. i'm a print graphic designer, who has some mac troubleshooting/repairing experience. and between the 20th anniversary in the bdroom, and the se/30 (128mb ram/500mb hd, xceed micron card+harness allowing greyscale internally: ), and the wireless 3500c 'kanga' running 10.2. plus the many macs (and a couple of apple IIe's w/300baud modems) worked on/with, and the pismo which i use to hell and back 24-7. apples rocks! also i would like to thank all who contribute here, its been a real problem saver and learning/enriching experience. and i hope to be able to contribute more often in the future. sincerely, rama. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: SmartMedia printing on the road
At 09:56 AM -0700 10/06/2004, Bruce Johnson wrote: PDF on the stick Um, is that fried? Maybe with some hot sauce? - Dan. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Green light and spinning fan (Wallstreet PB)
After an internal surgery in my Wallstreet PB (250 MHz, Serie I), the PB is apparently dead. When I press cmd-shift-fn-power, the green light switches on and the fan starts spinning forever; this only stops when I press the key combination again. I searched the net, and the symptoms seem to be quite common. However, the reasons for this behaviour are apparently far from clear: some say it is the logic board, other say it is the processor and some say that all was okay after letting the PB alone for a while. Has anybody on the list a more definite answer? Is there still hope for my Wallstreet? Many thanks in advance, Nils -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Green light and spinning fan (Wallstreet PB)
On Oct 6, 2004, at 3:38 PM, Nils Mueller-Scheessel wrote: After an internal surgery in my Wallstreet PB (250 MHz, Serie I), the PB is apparently dead. When I press cmd-shift-fn-power, the green light switches on and the fan starts spinning forever; this only stops when I press the key combination again. Time to open up the patient again, make sure the processor daughter card is properly seated. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Phar macy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Green light and spinning fan (Wallstreet PB)
My Reply follows quote. On 06/10/2004 15:38 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: After an internal surgery in my Wallstreet PB (250 MHz, Serie I), the PB is apparently dead. When I press cmd-shift-fn-power, the green light switches on and the fan starts spinning forever; this only stops when I press the key combination again. I searched the net, and the symptoms seem to be quite common. However, the reasons for this behaviour are apparently far from clear: some say it is the logic board, other say it is the processor and some say that all was okay after letting the PB alone for a while. Has anybody on the list a more definite answer? Is there still hope for my Wallstreet? Many thanks in advance, Nils - On mine, it turned out to be the processor card. You could get lucky and fix it by reseating the processor card. Press it FIRMLY into place. Ken -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Green light and spinning fan (Wallstreet PB)
On Oct 6, 2004, at 5:38 PM, Nils Mueller-Scheessel wrote: After an internal surgery in my Wallstreet PB (250 MHz, Serie I), the PB is apparently dead. When I press cmd-shift-fn-power, the green light switches on and the fan starts spinning forever; this only stops when I press the key combination again. I searched the net, and the symptoms seem to be quite common. However, the reasons for this behaviour are apparently far from clear: some say it is the logic board, other say it is the processor and some say that all was okay after letting the PB alone for a while. Has anybody on the list a more definite answer? Is there still hope for my Wallstreet? Many thanks in advance, Nils This might seem like a silly question but why would you ever push that particular keyboard combination? 700MHz iBook G3 640MB Ram OS 10.3.5 Laugha while you can monkeyboy. Dr. Lizardo(Bukaroo Bonzai) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Green light and spinning fan (Wallstreet PB)
The Wallstreet has no hard reset switch, so that key combination does the job. As others have said, you probably just need to re-seat the processor module. I've had similar symptoms after overclocking a board too much, or forgetting to push it all the way back into the slot. If that doesn't work, you'll probably need to track down a replacement module on eBay. Most of them are for the Series II machines, but there must be some Series I modules floating around somewhere. Cheers, ben On Thursday, October 07, 2004, at 10:57AM, MTH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 6, 2004, at 5:38 PM, Nils Mueller-Scheessel wrote: After an internal surgery in my Wallstreet PB (250 MHz, Serie I), the PB is apparently dead. When I press cmd-shift-fn-power, the green light switches on and the fan starts spinning forever; this only stops when I press the key combination again. I searched the net, and the symptoms seem to be quite common. However, the reasons for this behaviour are apparently far from clear: some say it is the logic board, other say it is the processor and some say that all was okay after letting the PB alone for a while. Has anybody on the list a more definite answer? Is there still hope for my Wallstreet? Many thanks in advance, Nils This might seem like a silly question but why would you ever push that particular keyboard combination? 700MHz iBook G3 640MB Ram OS 10.3.5 Laugha while you can monkeyboy. Dr. Lizardo(Bukaroo Bonzai) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---