Missing messages
I sent two messages to this list yesterday, but neither have shown up. I received other messages posted to the list, however. Could someone tell me if my iBook question made it through? Perhaps it was censored because it wasn't a PowerBook question? -- Sincerely, Dennis B. Swaney Windows is a command-line OS with a GUI shell while Mac System 10 is ... oh, never mind. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
iBook won't boot up from CD + more info
Sorry for top posting but I STILL haven't received the messages I sent last night, nor, if any, replies. IF anyone gets this, could you reply directly? I was able to get the iBook to boot up using my OS 10.3 install disk and my Tech Tool Pro 4.01 disk. However, it won't boot up with the Tech Tool Pro 3.01 disk. Since the two former disks are OS 10 boot disks and the latter is an OS 9 boot disk, is it possible that this iBook can't boot into OS 9? I thought that all 2001 Macs could still boot up into OS 9. I went to Apple's website and tried to get info on the iBook but Apple said that the model number M6497 can't be found. I read the specification sheet on the early 2001 iBook but it used a model number M7... ORIGINAL MESSAGE: I was given an iBook (M6497, 2001) and am trying to get it to boot up into OS 9. The person who gave it to me started to install OS 10 but never finished the installation, so the iBook boots up into OS 10 but before getting to where I can access the Startup Disk Control Panel, launches into the continue installtion mode. I tried to boot up from my Tech Tool Pro 3 disk by holding down the C key but it just booted from the hard drive (This may be due to the type of CD drive; my Bondi Rev B has never booted from a CD using the hold-down-the-C-key) What is the other key to use to choose a startup disk? I'm resending this with the model and year from the bottom of the iBook sine the first message hasn't showed up after 45 minutes -- Sincerely, Dennis B. Swaney Windows is a command-line OS with a GUI shell while Mac System 10 is ... oh, never mind. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iBook won't boot up from CD + more info
Dennis B. Swaney wrote: Sorry for top posting but I STILL haven't received the messages I sent last night, nor, if any, replies. IF anyone gets this, could you reply directly? Yo Dennis.. I got your original message and the follow ups Regards, Mike K -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Missing messages
on 23/03/05 09:36, Dennis B. Swaney at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sent two messages to this list yesterday, but neither have shown up. I received other messages posted to the list, however. Could someone tell me if my iBook question made it through? Perhaps it was censored because it wasn't a PowerBook question? Nobody does any censure on the lists. Don't know what happened, though. You could maybe wait a little bit. I haven't seen any problem with the list. -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] flowchart n.: [techspeak] An archaic form of visual control-flow specification employing arrows and 'speech balloons' of various shapes. Hackers never use flowcharts, consider them extremely silly, and associate them with COBOL programmers, card wallopers, and other lower forms of life. This attitude follows from the observations that flowcharts (at least from a hacker's point of view) are no easier to read than code, are less precise, and tend to fall out of sync with the code (so that they either obfuscate it rather than explaining it, or require extra maintenance effort that doesn't improve the code). See also PDL, sense 1. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: repair Wallstreet power adapter
On Mar 22, 2005, at 11:38 PM, themacuser wrote: I've done it. It is a pain. Mine shorted out where the cord goes into the plug, I had to hacksaw the plug open and fix it, then putting heatshrink around the plug. Ooohhh...heatshrink. Luuuxury. Mine's covered in green duct tape ;-) I agree, it was an astonishing PITA to fix. The outer shield on mine is now only roughly circular. This is the one thing that has always infuriated me about Apple: their [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ non-standard power adapters. For a long time they were using rational ones, like with the 1400. Then they went back to the wierdos. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Phar macy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iBook won't boot up from CD + more info
ORIGINAL MESSAGE: I was given an iBook (M6497, 2001) and am trying to get it to boot up into OS 9. The person who gave it to me started to install OS 10 but never finished the installation, so the iBook boots up into OS 10 but before getting to where I can access the Startup Disk Control Panel, launches into the continue installtion mode. I tried to boot up from my Tech Tool Pro 3 disk by holding down the C key but it just booted from the hard drive (This may be due to the type of CD drive; my Bondi Rev B has never booted from a CD using the hold-down-the-C-key) What is the other key to use to choose a startup disk? I'm resending this with the model and year from the bottom of the iBook sine the first message hasn't showed up after 45 minutes Early 2001 models need 9.1, late 2001 models need Sys 9.2.1 minimum. Check the CD for Version info. Try holding the Option key during startup for a choice of drives. Trey holding Command-Option-Shift-Delete to skip the internal drive. You CD drive could be dead or dirty so it can't read the CD. Try using a cleaning CD in the drive. In its search for info the eye might get swiped clean enough to work. John -- You recommend Macs to your friends, and Intel machines to those whom you don't mind billing by the hour. - Anonymous -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
replaced HD no modem
hello again, I bought a new hard drive from pbfixit...had my local high school computer tech watch the install guide online and install it. chime it works! now when I go to set up netscape...no modem responding. what happened Kristina waiting on cables waiting on this pb to work well! -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: replaced HD no modem
on 23/03/05 16:15, Kristina Rost at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello again, I bought a new hard drive from pbfixit...had my local high school computer tech watch the install guide online and install it. chime it works! now when I go to set up netscape...no modem responding. what happened Kristina waiting on cables waiting on this pb to work well! Well, it would seem that in the process of installing the hard drive, your tech did disconnect the modem. That's what I would suspect... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] foo /foo/ 1. interj. Term of disgust. 2. [very common] Used very generally as a sample name for absolutely anything, esp. programs and files (esp. scratch files). 3. First on the standard list of metasyntactic variables used in syntax examples. See also bar, baz, qux, quux, corge, grault, garply, waldo, fred, plugh, xyzzy, thud. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: replaced HD no modem
Well, it would seem that in the process of installing the hard drive, your tech did disconnect the modem. That's what I would suspect... Might be an idea to run the Apple System Profiler just to get confirmation as to whether the modem reads as still there ? ADi -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: replaced HD no modem
your tech did disconnect the modem. That's what I would suspect... my suspicions too, and blush accusation...the lad denies touch the device...and he's taking my daughter to the prom so he wishes to please. Might be an idea to run the Apple System Profiler just to get confirmation as to whether the modem reads as still there ? and just where in the ASP would the read be? kristina -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: replaced HD no modem
on 3/23/05 4:41 PM, Malcolm Cornelius at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And all the settings were copied ? I had to start anew...so I just set to the isp specs...over on a phone call and he said its my modem Which machine btw. lombard Kristina -thinking takes time -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: power adapter repairs
The yo-yo for my Pismo was starting to look dangerous. So in a pre-emptive strike I wound about 7-8 inches of the cord back into the yo-yo and then filled it up with clear bead of silicon squeezed out of a tube. Not pretty to look at but it works and is safe. Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:22:18 -0500 From: Dante McLean [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: repair Wallstreet power adapter I've tried it. It is a pain in the neck, and probably not worth spending time on. The yo-yo's are difficult (not impossible) to get apart, and as the usual issue is the cord, you probably won't get anywhere with repair attempts. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Missing messages
At 11:13 AM -0500 3/23/05, Laurent Daudelin wrote: on 23/03/05 09:36, Dennis B. Swaney at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sent two messages to this list yesterday, but neither have shown up. I received other messages posted to the list, however. Could someone tell me if my iBook question made it through? Perhaps it was censored because it wasn't a PowerBook question? Nobody does any censure on the lists. Don't know what happened, though. You could maybe wait a little bit. I haven't seen any problem with the list. Ok, Bruce Johnson sent me a private reply saying that Malcolm Cornelius had posted a reply: I didn't get it. I've also discovered that I have not received some of the messages in the New HD, no modem thread; I get replies to messages I haven't received. It must be a problem with my ISP; time to raise hell with them. -- Sincerely, Dennis B. Swaney Windows is a command-line OS with a GUI shell while Mac System 10 is ... oh, never mind. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iBook won't boot up from CD + more info
At 2:04 PM -0500 3/23/05, John McGibney wrote: ORIGINAL MESSAGE: I was given an iBook (M6497, 2001) and am trying to get it to boot up into OS 9. The person who gave it to me started to install OS 10 but never finished the installation, so the iBook boots up into OS 10 but before getting to where I can access the Startup Disk Control Panel, launches into the continue installtion mode. I tried to boot up from my Tech Tool Pro 3 disk by holding down the C key but it just booted from the hard drive (This may be due to the type of CD drive; my Bondi Rev B has never booted from a CD using the hold-down-the-C-key) What is the other key to use to choose a startup disk? I'm resending this with the model and year from the bottom of the iBook sine the first message hasn't showed up after 45 minutes Early 2001 models need 9.1, late 2001 models need Sys 9.2.1 minimum. Check the CD for Version info. Try holding the Option key during startup for a choice of drives. Trey holding Command-Option-Shift-Delete to skip the internal drive. You CD drive could be dead or dirty so it can't read the CD. Try using a cleaning CD in the drive. In its search for info the eye might get swiped clean enough to work. Well, since it DID boot with OS 10 bootable disks, I'll try my 9.1 disk. I'm trying to get it up so that I can run the system profiler on it find out the specifications. Like I said in one of my messages, according to Apple, the model M6497 iBook doesn't exist. I'll also try booting from a Firewire drive. -- Sincerely, Dennis B. Swaney Windows is a command-line OS with a GUI shell while Mac System 10 is ... oh, never mind. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Can I monitor my network?
As it is NmapFE is pretty simple. It will tell you what other systems are on your network, and what, to some extent they're doing there. thanks for that Bruce... I had no idea that anyone had a cocoa front end for nmap nice find. Steve -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iBook won't boot up from CD + more info
At 2:04 PM -0500 3/23/05, John McGibney wrote: Early 2001 models need 9.1, late 2001 models need Sys 9.2.1 minimum. Check the CD for Version info. Try holding the Option key during startup for a choice of drives. Trey holding Command-Option-Shift-Delete to skip the internal drive. You CD drive could be dead or dirty so it can't read the CD. Try using a cleaning CD in the drive. In its search for info the eye might get swiped clean enough to work. Ok, I was finally able to get it to boot with an external Firewire drive running 10.2.6. Apple System Profiler gave me the following information: 500 MHz G3 128 MB RAM 9.36 GB HD CD-RW/DVD-ROM drive Machine model: iBook (version = 22.15) Sales Order # M8520LL/A I then tried to boot with a 9.1 install CD, it started and then bombed saying to restart with extensions off. When I did, it bombed again. I next tried a 9.2.1 install CD. Again, it bombed saying to start with extensions off. When I did, it finally booted up. I then ran Disk First Aid and it said the hard drive appeared to be ok. So, I've determined that the iBook is an iBook 22.15, a top-of-the-line Dual-USB. After the battery charges, I will see about wiping the hard drive and installing OS 9.2.1. The hard drive and RAM are too low to install 10 AND expect good performance. If I decide to do more, I'll have to take it to an Apple Store and have the RAM maxed out plus a larger HD put in it. -- Sincerely, Dennis B. Swaney Windows is a command-line OS with a GUI shell while Mac System 10 is ... oh, never mind. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
