LCD vs. CRT

2005-05-28 Thread Claire Hart
Having read the posts on what to do with old CRTs and also the dangers 
of photon beams zapping out of the ray guns and getting us all, I am 
left with questions on two trains of thought:


(1)  Is it wiser to buy a flat-panel monitor?  Are we safer?  Are our 
kids safer?  They spend quite a bit of time in front of those monitors 
(both are gamers, and one is a design communications major, so he's 
going to be in front of computer screens for a LONG time).  Should I 
consider replacing my sons' CRTs for flat-panels?  (I'm on a 
PowerBook.)


(2)  Is CRT recycling actually a for-profit possibility?  I am not 
close to Oregon, so it would be hard for me to ship my CRTs.  However, 
would this be a viable start-up business option?  How would one learn 
how to properly  safely dismantle, sort, and ship these things?


Claire


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Re: LCD vs. CRT

2005-05-28 Thread darm0k

At 11:29 AM -0500 05/28/2005, Claire Hart wrote:
Having read the posts on what to do with old CRTs and also the 
dangers of photon beams zapping out of the ray guns and getting us 
all, I am left with questions on two trains of thought:


(1)  Is it wiser to buy a flat-panel monitor?  Are we safer?  Are 
our kids safer?  They spend quite a bit of time in front of those 
monitors (both are gamers, and one is a design communications major, 
so he's going to be in front of computer screens for a LONG time). 
Should I consider replacing my sons' CRTs for flat-panels?  (I'm on 
a PowerBook.)


In the old days, CRTs were mostly plain glass.  So they did radiate 
forward a quite bit -- that's why yer mom told you to not sit so 
close to the TV.  But modern CRTs have a lot of lead (shielding) in 
the glass, and much much better masks (the thing that you see between 
pixels if you look real close), so the radiation leakage is minimal.


The radiation is ruled by the inverse-square law.  That means it 
falls off very very quickly as you move away from the screen.  Bottom 
line: If you sit more than two feet away from the screen, I wouldn't 
worry about it.


Of far greater concern, for both CRT and LCD, is eye strain in 
general.  Staring at any type of monitor for long hours is tuff on 
the eyes!  Reducing the brightness and adjusting the contrast can 
make a big diff.  And try a longer keyboard cable, so you can sit 
farther away from the screen.


Also keep in mind that there are still specific uses for CRTs.  If 
you're into serious graphics or video work, CRTs currently have much 
better color reproduction and response (faster frame rate).  LCDs are 
improving, but they're not there yet.  Well, ok.  I saw one LCD that 
had what I consider pro-quality color reproduction.  But it was 
$22,000. :)



(2)  Is CRT recycling actually a for-profit possibility?  I am not 
close to Oregon, so it would be hard for me to ship my CRTs. 
However, would this be a viable start-up business option?  How would 
one learn how to properly  safely dismantle, sort, and ship these 
things?


There are a number of companies that recycle equipment for profit. 
Due to the extensive environmental laws and regulations, I think it 
would be very risky start-up!


FWIW,
- Dan.

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Re: LCD vs. CRT

2005-05-28 Thread Zoltan Batiz

Claire,


I agree with Dan.  CRT monitors still have many uses.  Take me for 
example.  My main computer is a PowerBook Pismo.  I have the Apple 17 
CRT Studio display hooked up to it for web design purposes.  With both 
LCD and CRT technology at my fingertips, I'm able to compare colors for 
some websites.  There is a huge difference, especially how pictures can 
look.  With both, I'm able to get the best quality between the two.  
If you have gamers in the house, they are better off with modern CRT 
monitors for now.  Dan's previous post on this thread best explains 
why.



Zoltan
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Re: LCD vs. CRT

2005-05-28 Thread Brian
From what I've heard from others, CRTs have a longer useful life  
span than LCD monitors as well, and are significantly cheaper, which  
helps with the value equation.

Brian

On May 28, 2005, at 11:29 AM, Claire Hart wrote:

Having read the posts on what to do with old CRTs and also the  
dangers of photon beams zapping out of the ray guns and getting us  
all, I am left with questions on two trains of thought:


(1)  Is it wiser to buy a flat-panel monitor?  Are we safer?  Are  
our kids safer?  They spend quite a bit of time in front of those  
monitors (both are gamers, and one is a design communications  
major, so he's going to be in front of computer screens for a LONG  
time).  Should I consider replacing my sons' CRTs for flat-panels?   
(I'm on a PowerBook.)


(2)  Is CRT recycling actually a for-profit possibility?  I am not  
close to Oregon, so it would be hard for me to ship my CRTs.   
However, would this be a viable start-up business option?  How  
would one learn how to properly  safely dismantle, sort, and ship  
these things?


Claire


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1.25ghz PB Hangs in Tiger

2005-05-28 Thread Dylan McDermond
Anyone else having fits with Tiger on the Al Books? I've been getting  
hangs - maybe once a day - that lock everything. No mouse, no  
keyboard, nothing. I have to use a ctrl-cmd-power to reboot, no  
matter how long I wait.


They seem to come with opening new program instances - like finder  
windows, mail messages, safari tabs, etc.


This is a fresh erase-the-disk-and-install Tiger installation. I have  
a single 1gb RAM stick that was bought from OWC about 8 months ago.  
The only other OS level item I see that I have installed is  
Temperature Monitor Lite, but it was hanging before I installed that.  
10.4.1 has been better than 10.4.0, but Panther was solid, no hangs.  
I haven't had these problems before I installed Tiger. I've done  
loads of PRAM resets, nvram resets, permissions repairs, disk checks  
and extensive memory tests - everything checks out fine.


Anyone else with similar woes? Maybe a fix?

- Dylan


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Re: 1.25ghz PB Hangs in Tiger

2005-05-28 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 28/05/05 21:02, Dylan McDermond at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anyone else having fits with Tiger on the Al Books? I've been getting
 hangs - maybe once a day - that lock everything. No mouse, no
 keyboard, nothing. I have to use a ctrl-cmd-power to reboot, no
 matter how long I wait.
 
 They seem to come with opening new program instances - like finder
 windows, mail messages, safari tabs, etc.
 
 This is a fresh erase-the-disk-and-install Tiger installation. I have
 a single 1gb RAM stick that was bought from OWC about 8 months ago.
 The only other OS level item I see that I have installed is
 Temperature Monitor Lite, but it was hanging before I installed that.
 10.4.1 has been better than 10.4.0, but Panther was solid, no hangs.
 I haven't had these problems before I installed Tiger. I've done
 loads of PRAM resets, nvram resets, permissions repairs, disk checks
 and extensive memory tests - everything checks out fine.
 
 Anyone else with similar woes? Maybe a fix?

No problem with 10.4.1 on my 17. No hang or anything else...

-Laurent.
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Re: 1.25ghz PB Hangs in Tiger

2005-05-28 Thread Steve Fuller

Anyone else having fits with Tiger on the Al Books? I've been getting
hangs - maybe once a day - that lock everything. No mouse, no
keyboard, nothing. I have to use a ctrl-cmd-power to reboot, no
matter how long I wait.





No problem with 10.4.1 on my 17. No hang or anything else...


I'll echo Laruent's findings as well. 10.4.1 on a 1st gen 17 albook.  
My suggestion would be to remove the ram stick and see if that causes  
the issues to stop.


Steve


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