Re: DVD burning on Pismo
Actually the Pismo will burn DVDs okay, just at slower speeds. I did not test that. Perhaps I will, later. 4X has been confirmed to work using a UJ-845. My 2X confirmation was using a DVR-K05. I have no reason to doubt that the DVR-K05 will do 4X as well. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Fwd: Security and our Macs
FYI: Firefox and Mac security sanctuaries 'under attack' http://forms.theregister.co.uk/register/register Symantec attacks sacred cows By John Leyden Published Monday 19th September 2005 12:19 Symantec has attacked the perceived security advantages of Firefox and Apple Macs by drawing unfavourable comparisons with Microsoft's software and describing Mac fans as living in a false paradise. According to the latest edition of Symantec's Internet Security Threat Report, 25 vulnerabilities were disclosed for Mozilla browsers and 13 for Microsoft Internet Explorer in the first half of 2005. Graham Pinkney, head of threat intelligence EMEA at Symantec, said that switching from IE to Firefox as a way of minimising security risks was no longer valid advice. Cross-site scripting attacks have been used to attack more vulnerabilities in Mozilla browsers over the last six months than IE, Pinkney told an IDC security conference last week ahead of the publication of Symantec's threat report today. John Cheney, chief executive of email filtering firm BlackSpider, replied that the release of Firefox had helped Microsoft to raise its game in terms of browser security. As well as making comments that will doubtless irk Firefox fans, Symantec has renewed its assault of the perceived security advantages of Apple Macs. Mac users may be operating under a false sense of security as a noteworthy number of vulnerabilities and attacks were detected against Apple Mac's operating system, OS X, Symantec said, reflecting comments in the previous edition of its threat report that OS X was an emerging target for attack. While the number of vendor-confirmed vulnerabilities in OS X has remained relatively constant during the last two reporting periods [12 months], Symantec predicts this could change in the future. Symantec's analysis on a rootkit (OSX/Weapox) reveals it is designed to take advantage of OS X. This particular trojan demonstrates that as OS X increases in popularity, so too will the scrutiny it receives from potential attackers. Away from the desktop, Microsoft enterprise applications remain the top hacker target. For the fourth consecutive reporting period, the Microsoft SQL Server Resolution Service Stack Overflow Attack was the most common attack, accounting for 33 per cent of all attacks monitored by Symantec. Malware authors go modular Malicious code threats to privacy and confidentiality increased rapidly in the first six months of 2005 - up 48 per cent on the back half of 2004. Virus writers upped their production lines to release 10,866 new Windows virus and worm variants in the first six months of this year, Symantec reports. For the second period in succession, NetSky-P was the most reported malicious code sample. Gaobot and Spybot - both linked to the creation of zombie networks of compromised Windows PCs - were the second and third most reported. Malware that exposes confidential user information represented three-quarters (74 per cent) of the top 50 malicious code samples received by Symantec. Seven of the top 50 were linked to the creation of botnets. Websites that specialise in distributing source code and tools for malicious bots and botnets helped fuel the creation of multiple copies of Spybot with 6,361 new variants of the malware created in the first half of 2005, a 48 per cent increase over the 4,288 new variants documented in the second half of 2004. Instead of releasing a wide range of functions in one program or file, virus writers are beginning to create modular code to avoid detection. Once installed, modular malware first tries to disable antivirus software and firewall protection and then trieas to download other pieces (or modules) of code from compromised computers across the internet. A patch in time... Symantec chronicled 1,862 new vulnerabilities during 1H2005 - an average of 10 new flaws a day 73 per cent of which it categorises as easily exploitable. The time between the disclosure of a vulnerability and the release of an associated exploit was just six days. Half (59 per cent) of vulnerabilities were associated with web application technologies. Along with computer viruses and vulnerabilities, spam remains a leading security concern. Spam accounted for 61 per cent of all email traffic in the first half of 2005, according to Symantec, with over half (51 per cent) of all junk mail received worldwide originated in the US. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL
Re: Security and our Macs
On Sep 19, 2005, at 8:57 AM, Howard Katz wrote: FYI: Firefox and Mac security sanctuaries 'under attack' http://forms.theregister.co.uk/register/register A free access URL: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/09/19/symantec_threat_report/ Symantec attacks sacred cows By John Leyden Published Monday 19th September 2005 12:19 Symantec is getting desperate to sell their snake oil. Symantec has attacked the perceived security advantages of Firefox and Apple Macs by drawing unfavourable comparisons with Microsoft's software and describing Mac fans as living in a false paradise. According to the latest edition of Symantec's Internet Security Threat Report, 25 vulnerabilities were disclosed for Mozilla browsers and 13 for Microsoft Internet Explorer in the first half of 2005. Graham Pinkney, head of threat intelligence EMEA at Symantec, said that switching from IE to Firefox as a way of minimising security risks was no longer valid advice. Cross-site scripting attacks have been used to attack more vulnerabilities in Mozilla browsers over the last six months than IE, Pinkney told an IDC security conference last week ahead of the publication of Symantec's threat report today. John Cheney, chief executive of email filtering firm BlackSpider, replied that the release of Firefox had helped Microsoft to raise its game in terms of browser security. And he can not point to a SINGLE example where these attacks have affected a Mac, because there are none. Also note 25 vulnerabilities were *disclosed* for Firefox. Who knows how many there were that weren't disclosed for MS IE? Firefox's buglist is out there for the world to peruse. They can't hide anything. Firefox has also had three updates in that timeframe, specifically fixing those vulnerabilities. Another thing that they don't mention, because it might take some of the ' scry' out of their pronouncements is that nearly ALL, if not all of those Mac OSX vulnerabilities are LOCAL exploits, mostly means by which local users can escalate their privileges. 99% of us don't need to worry about that because WE are the only local users. As well as making comments that will doubtless irk Firefox fans, Symantec has renewed its assault of the perceived security advantages of Apple Macs. Mac users may be operating under a false sense of security as a noteworthy number of vulnerabilities and attacks were detected against Apple Mac's operating system, OS X, Symantec said, reflecting comments in the previous edition of its threat report that OS X was an emerging target for attack. Noteworthy number of vulnerabilities, perhaps, there have been several security updates; they still cannot point to a SINGLE ATTACK on a Mac. (and trust me they would if they could...they really WANT to stampede the herd.) Blah blah blah pleeesse buy our products pleeese blah blah blah. While the number of vendor-confirmed vulnerabilities in OS X has remained relatively constant during the last two reporting periods [12 months], Symantec predicts this could change in the future. Symantec's analysis on a rootkit (OSX/Weapox) reveals it is designed to take advantage of OS X. This particular trojan demonstrates that as OS X increases in popularity, so too will the scrutiny it receives from potential attackers. You need root privileges to install a rootkit. It is not an attack, it's what you use AFTER a successful attack. Moreover, WeaponX was posted in October of 2004. This has been around a while. And the author of WeaponX http://neil.slampt.net/ has written for Symantec. sniff sniff Why does it smell like day-old mackerel in here? Out of the box, Mac OS X is one of the most secure OSes on the market today. By default NOTHING is open, it has an effective firewall (moreso in 10.4, where you can pretty much make your mac invisible on the net. (in Sharing Firewall Advanced check Block UDP traffic and Stealth Mode. This may cause some problems in corporate environments so ask your friendly (or rude and arrogant as the case may be) IT person about this). I'm not burying my head in the sand, I'm not pretending that OS X is invulnerable, it's not. What I am pissed off at are people who cry wolf; folks who want to scare us into submission or into buying their worthless products, and Symantec has been pounding the drum for this for a while. Must need to meet their quarterlies. -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For
Re: Security and our Macs
I agree, Bruce, and was passing that on for info's sake. :) I still when I can steer folk over to the mac side, if nothing else by noting how much more secure our systems are. But this brings up an interesting question (at least to me): how much good is the mac-versions of the virus software out there? Even some of the magazines make it sound like virus protection software is a must-have. I've not bothered with getting any so far. To be honest, I just haven't seen the point or need. Later.Howard (BTW--sorry about the double-post of the news article. I didn't think Gmail had sent the 1st one so I hit the send button again.) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Security and our Macs
On 9/19/05, Howard Katz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree, Bruce, and was passing that on for info's sake. :) I still when I can steer folk over to the mac side, if nothing else by noting how much more secure our systems are. But this brings up an interesting question (at least to me): how much good is the mac-versions of the virus software out there? Even some of the magazines make it sound like virus protection software is a must-have. I've not bothered with getting any so far. To be honest, I just haven't seen the point or need. Later.Howard (BTW--sorry about the double-post of the news article. I didn't think Gmail had sent the 1st one so I hit the send button again.) I don't see the need for anything other than my own care against the big bad web. I always laugh when I read thesae articles... It reminds me of the saying follow the money and you will see what the real incentive to warn us is all about. Selling their product.. As Bruce mentioned, Symantec would wet their pants if they could actually prove why we need their software. -- Ron http://krowmagnum.4mg.com/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Security and our Macs
On 19/09/05 13:50, Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip!] What I am pissed off at are people who cry wolf; folks who want to scare us into submission or into buying their worthless products, and Symantec has been pounding the drum for this for a while. Very well put, Bruce. I couldn't have said it better myself. -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Security and our Macs
On 19/09/05 14:09, Howard Katz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree, Bruce, and was passing that on for info's sake. :) I still when I can steer folk over to the mac side, if nothing else by noting how much more secure our systems are. But this brings up an interesting question (at least to me): how much good is the mac-versions of the virus software out there? Even some of the magazines make it sound like virus protection software is a must-have. I've not bothered with getting any so far. To be honest, I just haven't seen the point or need. At this point, and unless you did thinker around administrative and networking stuff in OS X, I would say that antivirus are totally unneeded. -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Security and our Macs
On Sep 19, 2005, at 11:09 AM, Howard Katz wrote: But this brings up an interesting question (at least to me): how much good is the mac-versions of the virus software out there? Even some of the magazines make it sound like virus protection software is a must-have. I've not bothered with getting any so far. To be honest, I just haven't seen the point or need. Next time you see these articles about how necessary these products are, count how many pages of ads the companies mentioned have purchased, and you'll find your answer as to why the editorial side keeps saying they're necessary. :-/ -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Security and our Macs
{snip}
By default NOTHING is open, it has an effective firewall (moreso in
10.4, where you can pretty much make your mac invisible on the net.
(in Sharing Firewall Advanced check Block UDP traffic and Stealth
Mode. This may cause some problems in corporate environments so ask
your friendly (or rude and arrogant as the case may be) IT person
about this).
Bruce,
Isn't is pointless to turn on Firewall protection if using an Airport
network? I mean, my ABS (snow) has a built-in hardware firewall. Or
is it better to also have OS X's firewall turned on as well? (Panther
here).
Zoltan
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Re: Upgrading from CD-ROM to Combo/Super Drive
I checked OtherWorld Computing's website (http://eshop.macsales.com) didn't find anything listed for the ibook, but I've noticed sometimes that their website doesn't always reflect what they're advertising in print--and I don't have Mac Service Solutions (https://www.macservice.com/mail_in_service_detail.cfm) does list an 8X Dual Layer SuperDrive for PowerBook/iBook G4 $275 installed TechRestore (http://techrestore.com/xcart/home.php?cat=256) has a couple of models listed for the ibook--not sure which one you'd want. High end is $250. Hope this helps. Later...Howard -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Upgrading from CD-ROM to Combo/Super Drive
I would like to know if it is possible to replace the CD-ROM with one of these two types of drives? CD-ROM drives are now completely obsolete. Replacements, which are generally slot loading and 12.7mm, are usually CD-ROM-R-R/W and DVD-ROM-R-R/W, often including dual-layer DVD writing/rewriting. Also, DVD capability is now usually +/- instead of just -. (9.5mm tray loading, and 12.7mm tray loading drives are also available). Drives which are immediately compatible with OS X include the Pioneer DVR-K04. The newer -K05 (dual-layer) is supportable using PatchBurn. Another slot loading drive which can be supported likewise is the Panasonic UJ-845S. Most new drives are 12.7mm, and all have standard mounting (for such drives). Most have standard 50-pin miniature interfaces. Adapters are available so that such drives can be connected to a desktop's EIDE/UATA bus for test purposes, and thereafter transferred to your laptop. Some drives have Master/Slave/Cable Select capability; most are Master only, which is fine. In general, the newer drives are very fast, and DVD burned at best speed (often 8X for single-layer DVDs and 2.4X for dual-layer DVDs) may be too fast for reliable operation except on the very latest 'books. If failures reoccur, this can be fixed by selecting 2X or 4X burning. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Security and our Macs
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 8:24 pm -0700, Zoltan Batiz wrote: Bruce, Isn't is pointless to turn on Firewall protection if using an Airport network? I mean, my ABS (snow) has a built-in hardware firewall. Or is it better to also have OS X's firewall turned on as well? (Panther here). I'd say using a snow ABS is a *very* good reason to turn on the firewall. IIRC, what Apple calls a 'firewall' in the ABS is just NAT, and the snow ABS only has WEP encryption (as opposed to WPA in the later base stations), which is no protection at all against a determined hacker. TimH -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
DVD audio extract/mp3?
Hi all; I just ordered the DVD of Jesus christ superstar, which I think musically is Andrew Lloyd Weber's best effort. Anyway the audio on it has been remastered- and you cna't get a audio CD with a good analog-to-digital conversion- all the Amazon reviews say stuff like what did they do, remaster it while playing it ina garbage can. I have 2 different remastered audio Cds and indeed they aren't great. Anyway is there a good way to get the audio off of the good-sounding DVD and into mp3, using my 10.4, iLife'd PB G4? See the Amazon reviews of the audio CDs to see why I want to do this! I know I can do it with a PC, but I'm not aware of a way to do it on the Mac other than using WireTap or other util to just capture the sound as it plays on the laptop. I've bought the DVD plus 2 crappy audio CD remasterings plus this comes under fair use IMO, so flame me not (please) :) thanks, Brian -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: DVD audio extract/mp3?
on 19/09/05 19:02, Brian McEwen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all; I just ordered the DVD of Jesus christ superstar, which I think musically is Andrew Lloyd Weber's best effort. Anyway the audio on it has been remastered- and you cna't get a audio CD with a good analog-to-digital conversion- all the Amazon reviews say stuff like what did they do, remaster it while playing it ina garbage can. I have 2 different remastered audio Cds and indeed they aren't great. Anyway is there a good way to get the audio off of the good-sounding DVD and into mp3, using my 10.4, iLife'd PB G4? See the Amazon reviews of the audio CDs to see why I want to do this! I know I can do it with a PC, but I'm not aware of a way to do it on the Mac other than using WireTap or other util to just capture the sound as it plays on the laptop. I've bought the DVD plus 2 crappy audio CD remasterings plus this comes under fair use IMO, so flame me not (please) :) thanks, Brian I think that's pretty much it, WireTap Pro or Audio Hijack and Audio Hijack Pro. I personally use WireTap Pro and I've been pretty happy with it. -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] hack attack: n. [poss. by analogy with `Big Mac Attack' from ads for the McDonald's fast-food chain; the variant `big hack attack' is reported] Nearly synonymous with hacking run, though the latter more strongly implies an all-nighter. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
