Tiger on Lombard via TiBook
Hey Andrew, When you mentioned that you installed Tiger from the 12 G4 to the 400mhz Lombard...did you swap hard drives or?? just curious, Ed From: Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Tiger on Lombard via TiBook ??? Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 08:51:05 -0700 In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I installed Tiger from my Aluminum 12 G4 and that installation works great on the 400MHz Lombard. Of course, as in all OSX versions, DVD movies cannot be played on the Lombard under OSX. Andrew -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
15' Wallstreet
Laurent, I had to customize my Wallstreet (I grew out of the 14 inch screen almost as fast as the jeans I wore in college). It took some tinkering with the casing just to get the new screen in (lots of shaving and adding an titanium strip around the edges that aligns with the new titanium strip on the bottom panel). Mind you I was simply following the instructions of a friend. I gave it to him and I don't know how but he managed to get the video card and the video RAM up to standards enough to push this screen into working order, as well as maintaining decent backlighting. I'm not sure what else he did but he does work for Disney and they wish on a lot of stars, so who knows. Either that or I just hit the '5' key instead of '4'. I'll have to measure. :) Edward Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 15:01:14 -0400 Subject: Re: Wallstreet Tiger From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 17/05/05 14:59, Edward Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip!] Powerbook Wallstreet 15 PowerBook Wallstreet 15? I've never heard of a Wallstreet with a 15 screen! -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Wallstreet Tiger
I'm aware that the WS is ancient, the issue that I have is that I have installed Panther by removing the powerbooks hardrive and loading it into a firewire drive attached to a supported computer...after putting the HD back in the powerbook it works fine, booting into Panther with no prob...this is just odd...I can install Tiger on my iPod and boot from it! The powerbook's hardrive (with Tiger) will start up on a desktop but not on my wallstreet.didn't have this issue with Panther... Powerbook Wallstreet 15 500MHZ G4 upgrade 512MB RAM 30GB HD Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 22:58:12 +0200 From: Beniamino Cenci Goga [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Wallstreet Tiger The wallstreet is not a supported platform for Tiger. Stick with Panther on your Wallstreet WS is not supported for panther too! but I managed to install it with XPF Try, as soon as it is available the version that installs Tiger, with XPostFacto (XPF). Ben PS. I managed to install Tiger to the iBook G3 via SCSI disk mode: it is pretty slow but usable. Ben -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Wallstreet Tiger
In a never ending quest to keep my Wallstreet going I attempted a Tiger install. I tried this the same way I did Panther, by removing the hard-drive, putting it in a firewire casing and installing from my Tower. It installs fine and runs great on the tower, but when I transfer the hard-drive back to the Wallstreet I get a no disk flasherany ideas? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Waterlogged wallstreet
Recently my Wallstreet was attacked by a glass of water. I took it apart and there didn't seem to be any water inside the machinebut of course, now she's dead (and I'm so depressed). If I plug it in it tries to start up, whiring while the green power light goes on...but I don't think the hard drive even starts spinning and then it shuts back down. In this process the screen doesn't light up and I have to wait a couple of hours for this to happen again (it won't start with the startup button). So the process (just to repeat) goes like this. 1. Empty battery bays. Insert power cord. 2. Startup light comes on, quick whirring sound for 2-3 second. 3. Sound stops, light goes off, and the machine is dead. 4. Repeat in an hour with same results. It doesn't seem to me like the entire machine is shot and with the wide array of parts on ebay I'm hoping someone could give me an idea on what this might beany ideas from the Wallstreet family? There are 10 different kinds of people: those who understand binary and those who don't. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Waterlogged wallstreet
Thanks for the advicewhen the Wallstreet was originally watered I took it completely apart (even the PCMIA cage was out)in under 5 minutes...this may not be impressive but it was at 6am (and I'm a night owl) while my very sorry wife watched and hopedit sat for a week before I re-assembled it. I didn't find any real water but I'm guessing at this point that it's a loss due to a short. So now I'm stuck w/Gateway desktop. :( thanks again folks ed Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 15:08:38 -0400 Subject: Re: Waterlogged wallstreet From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 05/06/04 14:41, Ken at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Reply follows quote. On 05/06/2004 11:09 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Recently my Wallstreet was attacked by a glass of water. I took it apart and there didn't seem to be any water inside the machinebut of course, now she's dead (and I'm so depressed). If I plug it in it tries to start up, whiring while the green power light goes on...but I don't think the hard drive even starts spinning and then it shuts back down. In this process the screen doesn't light up and I have to wait a couple of hours for this to happen again (it won't start with the startup button). So the process (just to repeat) goes like this. 1. Empty battery bays. Insert power cord. 2. Startup light comes on, quick whirring sound for 2-3 second. 3. Sound stops, light goes off, and the machine is dead. 4. Repeat in an hour with same results. It doesn't seem to me like the entire machine is shot and with the wide array of parts on ebay I'm hoping someone could give me an idea on what this might beany ideas from the Wallstreet family? - If you are lucky, and your water is soft, you may be able to revive the machine by THOROUGHLY drying in out. As a minimum, I would remove the keyboard, hard drive, processor card and disconnect as many of the ribbon cable connectors as I could reach without disassembling the computer and let it air dry for a day or so. I suspect that water has gotten into some of the connectors and is causing faulty circuits. I suppose you could use a hair dryer on it after you have done the disconnections to speed things up, just don't over heat things! There is also another unfortunate possibility. If the original poster did try to power it up before it was completely dry, it is possible that remaining water caused some shorts that could have fried some electronic components in it which could be permanently damaged, even if the PowerBook is now let to dry completely... -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Powerlogix vs Sonnet
In my understanding the only real difference between the G3 and G4 is the whole velocity engineie the latest OSX programs like Photoshop will take advantage of that but that most average applications probably won't justify the expensethen again if the expense isn't a major issue...wellit's always fun to tinker. ed j On Apr 4, 2004, at 2:30 PM, G-Books wrote: G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books Digest #1672 1. Panther, Groovy, iChat AV 2. Re: Panther, Groovy, iChat AV 3. Re: Panther, Groovy, iChat AV 4. Lombard won't boot after HD replacement 5. Pismo restart problems HELP 6. Re: Lombard won't boot after HD replacement 7. Wallstreet Powerlogix G3 500 vs Sonnet G4 500 G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For feed mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ -- Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 12:08:05 -0800 Subject: Panther, Groovy, iChat AV From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yup, finally installed Panther on both the G-4 powerbook and the Pismo. Flawless, swift, excellent. For iChat AV to work, does it require certain hardware? On the Pismo, it said I didn't have the right gear. I need more than firewire? -- Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 17:43:11 -0500 Subject: Re: Panther, Groovy, iChat AV From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/04/04 15:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yup, finally installed Panther on both the G-4 powerbook and the Pismo. Flawless, swift, excellent. For iChat AV to work, does it require certain hardware? On the Pismo, it said I didn't have the right gear. I need more than firewire? No, you would actually need more speed. iChat AV requires a G3 processor of at least 600MHz. I'm using the shareware iChatUSBCam from Ecamm Network at Ecamm.com to remove this limitation. -Laurent. -- === = Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelin http://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fortrash /for'trash/ n.: Hackerism for the FORTRAN (FORmula TRANslator) language, referring to its primitive design, gross and irregular syntax, limited control constructs, and slippery, exception-filled semantics. -- Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 17:24:03 -0600 Subject: Re: Panther, Groovy, iChat AV From: Nikon's World [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Saturday, April 3, 2004, at 02:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yup, finally installed Panther on both the G-4 powerbook and the Pismo. Flawless, swift, excellent. For iChat AV to work, does it require certain hardware? On the Pismo, it said I didn't have the right gear. I need more than firewire? I believe that you need at least a 600MHz G3 to use video chat. 700MHz iBook running 10.2.8 Macs for life! http://homepage.mac.com/nikon80x/Menu2.html -- Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2004 00:18:08 -0500 Subject: Lombard won't boot after HD replacement From: Kevin Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm stumped...I was running Panther on my Lombard 400 with 192 MB Ram and the original 6 gig hard drive. I decided to replace the 6 with a 10 gig. So I go thru the install of Panther and when it finishes the first disc it goes right back to the beginning of the install processnever asks for the second disc. Reboot won't see the hard drive to startup but goes to the cd and boots off the disc. The hard drive shows up on the desktop but it won't boot. So, I went through the whole process of Norton, Disk First Aid, Initializing, etc...no luck...same thing...so i tried to install OS 9.1 first and the install went through fine but again it won't startup from the hd. It keeps going to the cd. If I take the cd out, I just get the flashing question mark in the folder in the middle of the screen. I checked Apple's web site for any updates and it doesn't list any needed. Tried the Firmware updates anyhow but it states they are not needed for this machine. Any ideas? I've taken out the top RAM and still nothing. My next step is to put the 6 gig back in. ugh! --- Kevin -- Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 23:03:01
Cardbus carriage for Wallstreet
Has anyone else out there had probs with the Wallstreet's cardbus carriage (ie getting jammed, refusing cards)? I've replaced it once already (thank GOD for ebay) and am getting ready to do it again and as easy as it is to replace (say compared to..installing a hard drive on a Clamshell)I'm getting nervous opening up the 'puter so muchso I'm just wondering if I'm simply too strong and my massive physical condition is causing me to break the carriage or if it's some sort of design weakness? I've seen a couple people talk about this before and was hoping to get some answers.thanks folks. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: G3/Mac OS X Settlement
I think that all of this stems directly from the Mac culture itself. The Mac is a drastically less used, more expensive, and a slower computer (sorry guysbenchmarks vs reality). Despite those huge marketing nightmare's many of us in the culture (as defined when you put down your hard earned $$ on a Mac) expect more than our constantly complaining Window's compadre. The facts are hard...that those who buy Mac's fit one of three patternsthey make their living on a Mac, they want to make a living on a Mac, or they love the obviously superior OS. For the first group, an upgrade is simply a necessity of business. For the second group, an upgrade is usually at a student discount brought to you by student loans. For the third group, an upgrade (or rather 4 in 4 years) is almost as great of a financial strain as the damn computer itself. Simply putMac user's spend a great deal of time talking about their Mac. Bragging even. And then they find that the $3000 they spent three years ago is now completely obsolete (even an old Dell runs WinDoze XP with minor hardware upgrades)...and well, that hurts. Blame whomever you like, the pain is still there..in my years as a #3 I often questioned just what the hell I was doing and why. By the time I am able to afford a new powerbook they'll have G6's (if Moto and IBM ever kick it into gear). My Wallstreet, while still functional is OSX Jag, doesn't have Panthercan't have Panther. Am I complaining? At first I did. At every chance. Now I just grin and bear itand the keyboard of the Wallstreet will get dusty from neglect and the three year old Dell with the inferior OS will be used more and more. I feel a tad neglected, rejected even.but it's all about money kidsApple can't spend the next two years updating their OS to run on every computer made in the last 4 yearsthat's Microsoft's job.and while producing an inferior OS, they still have 95% of the market. Apple is blessed. If they showed their customers 1/4 of the dedication their customer's showed them.they might have a chance in this market. Mac forevereven if it's just a museum piece, ed j -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Exclusive Club Pass Expired
David What do you mean by more expensive? The price is higher or the value is lower? If you mean that the Mac price is higher then you are right. I can buy a PC for a lower price than my Mac. But I get more for my money. I meant that Mac's are priced higher and that the advantages of more bang for your buck don't matter if you don't have the buck in the first place. Many Mac owner's SAVE their money for a long time in order to buy their Mac...and getting more features standard (ie more initial $$) doesn't matter if the features aren't supported after a couple of yearsmeanwhile over on your friends PC his add-on features that cost him extra after the initial purchase...while fraught with occasional problems and not nearly as pretty as the Mac's..are still working because they are supported. I won't be installing new updates to my (Mac)OS every week True...Apple would charge you. :) Of course they also release complete OS's instead of Window's Betas-sold-as-complete-OS...now if they could just figure out a way to stop doing it every year. Sigh...yes, my PC desktop is much faster than my Mac - but it doesn't let me write reports any faster. No, but when you spend so much of your marketing campaign promoting speed...it becomes a tad ironic. You have described a group of Mac owners but you have left out a very large group - probably the largest. People buy a Mac because it works and it lets them work. No, I described them as Group #3...those who love the obviously superior OS. I am not bashing or trashing Mac...I'm simply trying to grasp and explain what motivates class action law suits from the Mac User side. People belong to an exclusive club when they buy a Mac and they love it (Dell customer's aren't as rabid as Apple's) and suddenly new Mac stuff (ie OS, etc) comes and as simple as that they are no longer in the club...they're on the fringe..running an outdated OS or using a computer who's features have been retiredI think that's itI think the Club pass doesn't open the doors anymore and some of us have to watch from the outside of the fence as everyone else swims in the pool of a new OS. Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 06:57:55 -0500 Subject: Re: G3/Mac OS X Settlement From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 10/29/03 2:11 AM, Edward Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that all of this stems directly from the Mac culture itself. The Mac is a drastically less used, more expensive, and a slower computer (sorry guysbenchmarks vs reality). What do you mean by more expensive? The price is higher or the value is lower? If you mean that the Mac price is higher then you are right. I can buy a PC for a lower price than my Mac. But I get more for my money. My Mac comes with features that are extras on the PC. My Mac won't cause me the same headaches that my PC will. I won't be installing new updates to my OS every week (each one needed and each one possibly wrecking my OS. And yes, I know that MS is now scheduling them monthly. That just means that my computer is more vulnerable for 29 days than it used to be for 6 days) And when I decide to sell my Mac, several years after I've already sold the PC, I will be able to get more for it. As for the speed issue. Sigh...yes, my PC desktop is much faster than my Mac - but it doesn't let me write reports any faster. I don't put out a newsletter any faster. I don't browse the internet any faster. I don't write/read email any faster. The facts are hard...that those who buy Mac's fit one of three patternsthey make their living on a Mac, they want to make a living on a Mac, or they love the obviously superior OS. You have described a group of Mac owners but you have left out a very large group - probably the largest. People buy a Mac because it works and it lets them work. It doesn't grab the user by the nose and force him/her into a pattern decided upon by the programmers. It doesn't assume the user is a moron and needs a wizard. It lets the user get on with the job at hand and stays out of the way. Mac forevereven if it's just a museum piece, Don't you dare call my SE/30 a museum piece - it has a vastly important job - delivering and receiving email for a small non-profit organization. How many 1990 PCs do you know of that are still running without having visited the computer doctor? david -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto
Exclusive Club Pass Expired
David What do you mean by more expensive? The price is higher or the value is lower? If you mean that the Mac price is higher then you are right. I can buy a PC for a lower price than my Mac. But I get more for my money. I meant that Mac's are priced higher and that the advantages of more bang for your buck don't matter if you don't have the buck in the first place. Many Mac owner's SAVE their money for a long time in order to buy their Mac...and getting more features standard (ie more initial $$) doesn't matter if the features aren't supported after a couple of yearsmeanwhile over on your friends PC his add-on features that cost him extra after the initial purchase...while fraught with occasional problems and not nearly as pretty as the Mac's..are still working because they are supported. I won't be installing new updates to my (Mac)OS every week True...Apple would charge you. :) Of course they also release complete OS's instead of Window's Betas-sold-as-complete-OS...now if they could just figure out a way to stop doing it every year. Sigh...yes, my PC desktop is much faster than my Mac - but it doesn't let me write reports any faster. No, but when you spend so much of your marketing campaign promoting speed...it becomes a tad ironic. You have described a group of Mac owners but you have left out a very large group - probably the largest. People buy a Mac because it works and it lets them work. No, I described them as Group #3...those who love the obviously superior OS. I am not bashing or trashing Mac...I'm simply trying to grasp and explain what motivates class action law suits from the Mac User side. People belong to an exclusive club when they buy a Mac and they love it (Dell customer's aren't as rabid as Apple's) and suddenly new Mac stuff (ie OS, etc) comes and as simple as that they are no longer in the club...they're on the fringe..running an outdated OS or using a computer who's features have been retiredI think that's itI think the Club pass doesn't open the doors anymore and some of us have to watch from the outside of the fence as everyone else swims in the pool of a new OS. Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 06:57:55 -0500 Subject: Re: G3/Mac OS X Settlement From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 10/29/03 2:11 AM, Edward Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that all of this stems directly from the Mac culture itself. The Mac is a drastically less used, more expensive, and a slower computer (sorry guysbenchmarks vs reality). What do you mean by more expensive? The price is higher or the value is lower? If you mean that the Mac price is higher then you are right. I can buy a PC for a lower price than my Mac. But I get more for my money. My Mac comes with features that are extras on the PC. My Mac won't cause me the same headaches that my PC will. I won't be installing new updates to my OS every week (each one needed and each one possibly wrecking my OS. And yes, I know that MS is now scheduling them monthly. That just means that my computer is more vulnerable for 29 days than it used to be for 6 days) And when I decide to sell my Mac, several years after I've already sold the PC, I will be able to get more for it. As for the speed issue. Sigh...yes, my PC desktop is much faster than my Mac - but it doesn't let me write reports any faster. I don't put out a newsletter any faster. I don't browse the internet any faster. I don't write/read email any faster. The facts are hard...that those who buy Mac's fit one of three patternsthey make their living on a Mac, they want to make a living on a Mac, or they love the obviously superior OS. You have described a group of Mac owners but you have left out a very large group - probably the largest. People buy a Mac because it works and it lets them work. It doesn't grab the user by the nose and force him/her into a pattern decided upon by the programmers. It doesn't assume the user is a moron and needs a wizard. It lets the user get on with the job at hand and stays out of the way. Mac forevereven if it's just a museum piece, Don't you dare call my SE/30 a museum piece - it has a vastly important job - delivering and receiving email for a small non-profit organization. How many 1990 PCs do you know of that are still running without having visited the computer doctor? david -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto
Re: Problems with PCMIA slot....UPDATE
Re: Problems with PCMIA slot...UPDATE Laurent, Thanks for the info...the kicker is that my old CapSure card works great, is recognized, and performs admirally but my USB and FIREWIRE (which I used to burn CD very recently) are suddenly UNKNOWNI stripped down the Wallstreet (twice) and fixed the drive so it now takes cards (with a little nudging) and ejects them (nudge nudge) but won't recognize them as anything but unknown (form and function)not quite sure what to do at this pointI thought I've read somewhere that the cards might need drivers after updating to 10.2.6 but the CapSure card is designed for OS 9 and no problems existI even tried two different firewire cards and both are unknown...the Bluetooth USB adapter that I plug into my USB Cardbus even lights up...so it's getting power.I'm ready for some voodoo chants but I'm scared that my wife's Gateway will overhear and suddenly morph into a usable machine.any ideas on a fix besides a new machine (an idea my wife treats with open hostility)... thanks, ed -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
problems with PCMIA slot
I have a Wallstreet (512MB, 30GB HD, G4 500MHZ upgrade...ie I've put some cash into this machine)...and I have an external firewire CD Burner and a Sony Ericsson T68i that uses Bluetooth...I've had nothing but great experiences but recently any cardbus card (USB or FIREWIRE) inserted shows up generic without even acknowledging what type of card it isie firewire and usb DEAD. I've tried everything to no avail...bluetooth is permantly UNAVAILABLEI'm running 10.2.6 and have read that some people have had problems with PCMIA slots and 10.2.6 but it worked in the past (I honestly can't remember when I upgraded to 10.2.6)...isync and ical and address book were flawlessnow the cards won't even eject most of the time.perhaps the drive is dead.any ideas.PLEASE HELP. thanks, Ed J. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
