Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Expos=E8?= crashes my Pismo - Help...
Hello jim Wow, yeah, the problem seems to occur when I have opened Safari (of course, that's when I want to gain quick access to downloaded files on the desktop using expose), but also when I have openend several other apps, such as the terminal, entourage and vectorworks... But with just acrobat or indesign open, expose works just fine... So maybe it's a very mixture of both of the answers, maybe having openend some apps causes expose to use a part of the memory that is maybe faulty (which of course can be) - maybe by swapping expose out? But for now, I just switched expose off, I'm currently praying the RAM isn't faulty and yeah...thanks for all your replies thomas On 18.02.2005 1:51 Uhr, James Comas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a similar problem with my Pismo (400, 512MB), running 10.3.7. I discovered that engaging Expose, whether by hot-key or hot-corner, would often, not always, result in a freeze. I wasn't able to determine the exact conditions; but the problem would always happen if I had been using Safari for some time and had accumulated 3-4 windows, each with several tabs. I decided to deal with the problem by simply switching Expose off. Then, a couple of months later, I repartitioned my hard-disk (for an unrelated reason) and, of course, had to reinstall the system software. For whatever reason, Expose worked with no problems and continues to work fine after updating to 10.3.8. So you may want to try reinstalling your system software. If you do, I hope you have the same luck I had. Jim -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Expos=E8?= crashes my Pismo - Help...
on 18/02/05 07:58, thomas sappl at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello jim Wow, yeah, the problem seems to occur when I have opened Safari (of course, that's when I want to gain quick access to downloaded files on the desktop using expose), but also when I have openend several other apps, such as the terminal, entourage and vectorworks... But with just acrobat or indesign open, expose works just fine... So maybe it's a very mixture of both of the answers, maybe having openend some apps causes expose to use a part of the memory that is maybe faulty (which of course can be) - maybe by swapping expose out? But for now, I just switched expose off, I'm currently praying the RAM isn't faulty and yeah...thanks for all your replies thomas On 18.02.2005 1:51 Uhr, James Comas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a similar problem with my Pismo (400, 512MB), running 10.3.7. I discovered that engaging Expose, whether by hot-key or hot-corner, would often, not always, result in a freeze. I wasn't able to determine the exact conditions; but the problem would always happen if I had been using Safari for some time and had accumulated 3-4 windows, each with several tabs. I decided to deal with the problem by simply switching Expose off. Then, a couple of months later, I repartitioned my hard-disk (for an unrelated reason) and, of course, had to reinstall the system software. For whatever reason, Expose worked with no problems and continues to work fine after updating to 10.3.8. So you may want to try reinstalling your system software. If you do, I hope you have the same luck I had. Jim Just a comment, you're likely to see more VM activity with a lot of apps opened... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] FUBAR n.: The Failed UniBus Address Register in a VAX. A good example of how jargon can occasionally be snuck past the suits; see foobar, and foo for a fuller etymology. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Expos=E8?= crashes my Pismo - Help...
Hello everybody, As I got my Pismo last week, I'm currently new to the Mac - although I have a few experience with Linux. I really started to get in love with the Panther AND the Pismo But after I installed some more 256mb RAM (to finally 512mbs) into the Pismo and upgraded to 10.3.8, my Pismo crashes (meaning everything stands still - only the cursor is active) after I used ANY of the Exposè -Shortcuts (F11 for example) - I have to hard-reboot (that's the word for it?) the whole thing... Because Exposè is one of the most loveliest features in Panther (and also causes many Wows and Oooohhs and Aaaahhhss from my friends ;-), I'm really desperate. Does anyone here on the list have experience with this problem and can give me some solutions? I would appreciate any recommendations Greetings from Mozart's own country... Thomas -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Expos=E8?= crashes my Pismo - Help...
On 17/02/05 15:09, thomas sappl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everybody, As I got my Pismo last week, I'm currently new to the Mac - although I have a few experience with Linux. I really started to get in love with the Panther AND the Pismo But after I installed some more 256mb RAM (to finally 512mbs) into the Pismo and upgraded to 10.3.8, my Pismo crashes (meaning everything stands still - only the cursor is active) after I used ANY of the Exposè -Shortcuts (F11 for example) - I have to hard-reboot (that's the word for it?) the whole thing... Because Exposè is one of the most loveliest features in Panther (and also causes many Wows and Oooohhs and Aaaahhhss from my friends ;-), I'm really desperate. Does anyone here on the list have experience with this problem and can give me some solutions? I would appreciate any recommendations I've never heard of such problem. Did you say that it was working fine before you added your additional 256MB of RAM? If so, maybe the RAM is faulty? How did you get OS X installed on it initially? You might consider reinstalling the OS after backing up your data... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Expos=E8?= crashes my Pismo - Help...
Laurent, Do you think, a faulty memory can only cause problems with Exposè or will this just be the beginning of the end? ;-) well, I thought more of the VR or so? Yeah, I think I have to reinstall the OS as the first step to a better and happy future with the pismo, panther and me *g* Greetings thomas On 17.02.2005 21:13 Uhr, Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17/02/05 15:09, thomas sappl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everybody, As I got my Pismo last week, I'm currently new to the Mac - although I have a few experience with Linux. I really started to get in love with the Panther AND the Pismo But after I installed some more 256mb RAM (to finally 512mbs) into the Pismo and upgraded to 10.3.8, my Pismo crashes (meaning everything stands still - only the cursor is active) after I used ANY of the Exposè -Shortcuts (F11 for example) - I have to hard-reboot (that's the word for it?) the whole thing... Because Exposè is one of the most loveliest features in Panther (and also causes many Wows and Oooohhs and Aaaahhhss from my friends ;-), I'm really desperate. Does anyone here on the list have experience with this problem and can give me some solutions? I would appreciate any recommendations I've never heard of such problem. Did you say that it was working fine before you added your additional 256MB of RAM? If so, maybe the RAM is faulty? How did you get OS X installed on it initially? You might consider reinstalling the OS after backing up your data... -Laurent. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Expos=E8?= crashes my Pismo - Help...
On Feb 17, 2005, at 3:23 PM, thomas sappl wrote: Do you think, a faulty memory can only cause problems with Exposè or will this just be the beginning of the end? ;-) well, I thought more of the VR or so? It's fairly resource intensive, so it might show up there. The biggest problem with bad RAM is that it shows up inconsistently all over the place. Yeah, I think I have to reinstall the OS as the first step to a better and happy future with the pismo, panther and me *g* I'm not sure it will help, but I guess it won't hurt anything besides time. TjL -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Expos=E8?= crashes my Pismo - Help...
At 9:23 PM +0100 2/17/05, thomas sappl wrote: Laurent, Do you think, a faulty memory can only cause problems with Exposè or will this just be the beginning of the end? ;-) well, I thought more of the VR or so? Yeah, I think I have to reinstall the OS as the first step to a better and happy future with the pismo, panther and me *g* Greetings thomas Since Expose is part of the operating system and everything up to it loads in a particular order it is quite possible that it is always loading at a bad spot in memory, assuming there is a problem with the memory. So it is likely that it would consistently cause a problem. In OS 9 you could change the disk cache size to shift where things loaded and see if the problem changed. But I don't know off hand how to do the same sort of thing in OS X. The simplest test is to swap the memory SODIMMs to see if the problem moves elsewhere. That is if you can, ie you have two SODIMMs (it sounds like you do) and both are low profile (to fit in the upper slot). -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Expos=E8?= crashes my Pismo - Help...
On older Macs running OSX, RAM is probably the number one problem. I've had trouble with even Apple ram on Pismo and Lombard PowerBooks under OSX, and now buy only from OWC, which has reasonable prices and very liberal replacement policies, including for OSX crashes (they know the problem well). Andrew On 17 Feb 2005 at 18:35, Timothy Luoma wrote: On Feb 17, 2005, at 3:23 PM, thomas sappl wrote: Do you think, a faulty memory can only cause problems with Exposè or will this just be the beginning of the end? ;-) well, I thought more of the VR or so? It's fairly resource intensive, so it might show up there. The biggest problem with bad RAM is that it shows up inconsistently all over the place. Yeah, I think I have to reinstall the OS as the first step to a better and happy future with the pismo, panther and me *g* I'm not sure it will help, but I guess it won't hurt anything besides time. TjL -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Expos=E8?= crashes my Pismo - Help...
I had a similar problem with my Pismo (400, 512MB), running 10.3.7. I discovered that engaging Expose, whether by hot-key or hot-corner, would often, not always, result in a freeze. I wasn't able to determine the exact conditions; but the problem would always happen if I had been using Safari for some time and had accumulated 3-4 windows, each with several tabs. I decided to deal with the problem by simply switching Expose off. Then, a couple of months later, I repartitioned my hard-disk (for an unrelated reason) and, of course, had to reinstall the system software. For whatever reason, Expose worked with no problems and continues to work fine after updating to 10.3.8. So you may want to try reinstalling your system software. If you do, I hope you have the same luck I had. Jim -- Dr. James Comas Department of English University of Missouri-Columbia = -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
