Re: [OT] IPods / Unusually poor battery life compared to iBooks/Powerbooks
Apple are too often no too smart with warranty issues or just giving good service. In the long run they loose out because of this. It doesn't matter how other companies behave because they don't have the same small market share. Small market share for the iPod? According to eWeek, Apple is the demanding leader in the MP3 player market of any company. Apple sold more iPods in one quarter than the next leading company did all year. I also have the same feelings as David, it seems at every turn there is a group of Mac users (sometimes prompted by greedy lawyers) threatening a class action suit against Apple. I have always declined participation in the suits and written letters to the court for my reasons to decline. I am not without problems with my Mac systems, I owned a 5300 that the ram never stayed in and the power plug constantly broke. Today I have one of those ibooks with the POSSIBILITY that the logic board may go bad, if it happens, it happens and I will address the issue then without legal action. In our office, this year alone, 2 Compaqs and one Dell laptop had a series of hardware problems (one Compaq has been sent back 3 times, returned with the same problem), our Dell server's hard drive failed, and one Dell workstation's ram and video card went bad. Even though we have on site service, we are still waiting, the techs will not come out until WE exhaust all trouble shooting from our end to determine what the problem is. (These systems are all under warranty and 6 to 12 months old). All high tech companies have problems, assembly lines make mistakes, engineers design flaws and software is full of bugs and security issues, etc. The one thing we do not see in these threads of a few dissatisfied Mac users is the multitudes that are happy who have nothing to complain about. I personally would never use anything but Apple and stand behind them as a company. Best Regards, Wayne Schneck Marketing Manager FME -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: [OT] IPods / Unusually poor battery life compared to iBooks/Powerbooks
David, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I find it funny in a very sick way that Apple customers are talking about suing Apple when every laptop available uses the same technology and Dell uses the same technology in their music player ... no one is complaining about those instances ... Which probably is because these companies did replace their battery from the beginning, no? Apple are too often no too smart with warranty issues or just giving good service. In the long run they loose out because of this. It doesn't matter how other companies behave because they don't have the same small market share. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
[OT] IPods / Unusually poor battery life compared to iBooks/Powerbooks
I have several iBooks/Powerbooks that seem to be niggardly with respect to battery life. However, the opposite seems to be true with the iPods recently purchased. In fact, I almost need to charge my one iPod daily as the battery drain is so horrible! Anyone else having similar experiences? Thanks. -Bob- Bob Angell 1238 Fenway Avenue, SLC, UT 84102-3212 v: 801.583.8544; cell/sms: 801.824.7343 email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Had Momma Cass Karen Carpenter shared that ham sandwich, they might be with us today! -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: [OT] IPods / Unusually poor battery life compared to iBooks/Powerbooks
I would like to share a little of my experience with iPods; I own 2, the original 5 Gig and a brand new 20 Gig The 5 Gig battery lasted for about 18 Months. The new 20 Gig one seems to be fine (so far) After reading a whole lot on the subject of iPod battery it seems to me that: a) those battery will last for (about) 2 years or anywhere between 200 and 500 charges b) The best way to go about it is never charge the iPod unless it is almost dead; Not because of the memory factor, but simply because the battery Kind of remember how many time it has been charged, and not the amount of energy left in the Battery. c) Follow Apple iPod/iTunes up date, that is the best (and maybe) only way to maintain your iPod Battery in top shape d) Sure way to know if you need to replace the battery is simply making the rationale as to: How long does it need to be charge vs how long will it play Exemple: Charged for 12 hours vs played for 2 hours e) If you want your Battery to last longer, do the following; Do not set 1) Sound Check 2) Continuous play 3) Equalizer 4) The Shuffle and play list functions d) Put the Back light control to the minimum f) If all else fails go to www.pdasmart.com the will sell you a new battery for your iPod that (with confidence) you can replace yourself g) Send it in to PDASmart so they will change it for you (less expansive service than Apple h) If you are still under Apple warranty do not hesitate send it in! i) If you can purchase a Apple Care extended Warranty for your iPod it will pay for itself Hope that help you Kind Regards Hugo Trottier Editor The Digital Dispatch On 14-Jan-04, at 11:08 AM, BA wrote: I have several iBooks/Powerbooks that seem to be niggardly with respect to battery life. However, the opposite seems to be true with the iPods recently purchased. In fact, I almost need to charge my one iPod daily as the battery drain is so horrible! Anyone else having similar experiences? Thanks. -Bob- Bob Angell 1238 Fenway Avenue, SLC, UT 84102-3212 v: 801.583.8544; cell/sms: 801.824.7343 email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Had Momma Cass Karen Carpenter shared that ham sandwich, they might be with us today! -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: [OT] IPods / Unusually poor battery life compared to iBooks/Powerbooks
e) If you want your Battery to last longer, do the following; Do not set 1) Sound Check 2) Continuous play 3) Equalizer 4) The Shuffle and play list functions d) Put the Back light control to the minimum Couple of things to add. A) Your ipod is always on, even when it doesn't appear to be. That is one reason that it can be ready to go so quickly when you press a button. If you have it fully charged, and then leave it sit for 4 or 5 days, you will notice that the battery level has dropped quite a bit. B) The size of your tracks will greatly influence the amount of battery life that you have. A track that does not fit fully within the cache of the ipod is going to hit the drive and thus the battery more. Higher bitrate MP3s will also cause a faster battery loss due to the processor needing to work harder to decode them. I've had my 10GB ipod for a year and have not had any battery issues as of yet. Steve Fuller -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: [OT] IPods / Unusually poor battery life compared to iBooks/Powerbooks
There was a article on one of the news shows that went into the issue with the iPod battery problem, where they only lost around 18 months. Originally Apple would not replace the battery, and felt the iPod was a disposable item, but after some creative negative advertising by some film makers, they now offer battery changing directly from Apple. I have no idea of how much the service costs though! Tom on 1/14/04 10:08, BA at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have several iBooks/Powerbooks that seem to be niggardly with respect to battery life. However, the opposite seems to be true with the iPods recently purchased. In fact, I almost need to charge my one iPod daily as the battery drain is so horrible! Anyone else having similar experiences? Thanks. -Bob- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: [OT] IPods / Unusually poor battery life compared to iBooks/Powerbooks
I have to correct some of you statements Tom. Apple offered the replacement service two weeks before the domain name ipodsdirtylittlesecret was even registered, that was the domain of the people who ran the advertising campaign. That site also was connected to encouraging inflammatory vandalism of Apple ad physical space such as store signs and billboards. Nearly six other vendors also offer a similar battery replacement service. Prices vary from $60-100. Lithium Ion batteries only last 18-24 months on average use whether it be a PowerBook battery, iPod battery, or Sony Viao battery, that is just how the battery works. Some last longer, depends on use, conditions, all sorts of stuff, some also last shorter. I find it funny in a very sick way that Apple customers are talking about suing Apple when every laptop available uses the same technology and Dell uses the same technology in their music player ... no one is complaining about those instances ... David On Jan 14, 2004, at 10:24 PM, Tom Ethen wrote: There was a article on one of the news shows that went into the issue with the iPod battery problem, where they only lost around 18 months. Originally Apple would not replace the battery, and felt the iPod was a disposable item, but after some creative negative advertising by some film makers, they now offer battery changing directly from Apple. I have no idea of how much the service costs though! Tom -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: [OT] IPods / Unusually poor battery life compared to iBooks/Powerbooks
I have no issue with Apple (Just back from MacWorld), including the battery only lasting 18 months or so. The problem I had, was their initial refusal to replace the iPod battery, looking at it as a $400 disposable item. Tom on 1/14/04 22:31, David M. Ensteness at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to correct some of you statements Tom. Apple offered the replacement service two weeks before the domain name ipodsdirtylittlesecret was even registered, that was the domain of the people who ran the advertising campaign. That site also was connected to encouraging inflammatory vandalism of Apple ad physical space such as store signs and billboards. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
