Re: Continuous pinging - affecting performance ???
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] How would you feel if someone tossed a pebble at your office window once every second? The once a second comes from my estimation of what the always on option for pinging in the OS X Network Utility... That's all. Larry _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: National Enquirer/was Re: Continuous pinging - affecting performance ???
The National Enquirer reports at 12:00 PM -0400 9/5/04, Donald Keenan wrote: On Sunday, September 5, 2004, at 10:52 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Saturday, September 4, 2004, at 10:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 08:08 PM -0600 09/02/2004, Bob wrote: The National Enquirer reports at 8:22 PM +0200 9/2/04, Larry le Mac wrote: However, sending the 64 bytes every second, how will that affect performance ? How does the National Enquirer end up in the history of the replies as above? You mean you didn't know that they have a reporter monitoring this mail-list? ;-/ Can one customize the way the mail in this way? Some can. Maybe most can. I'm used to seeing At 08:08 PM -0600 09/02/2004, Bob wrote:. is it just that National Enquirer is entered as a user name? No. See below. I had to laugh when I've seen it in the past and now I'm wondering, how this was set up? Well it depends on what email client you are using. I confess to being pretty one dimensional when it comes to email. I started out using Eudora back when Old Yeller was just a pup and I have never used anything else. I don't know enough about Apple Mail App or the other email clients that are available, to keep my feet warm in the desert in August. So I can't tell you how to change yours unless you are using Eudora. But basically, that line is called an Attribution line or Attribution string. Your attributing the subsequent quoted material to the following person(s). You just need to find out how (reading the owner's manual would probably tell you) to change it in your email client. I view attribution strings as inverse .sigs. You can make them your own and personalize them. I simply added The National Enquirer reports at the beginning of my default attribution string. BTW kudos for modifying the Subject line of your message and not hijacking the previous thread. I know a lot of Internet veterans who don't do that. One final comment: Whenever asking for help or advice, always include the pertinent information that will allow others to offer their assistance -- application(s) if relevant version; OS version; hardware and model if relevant. Hope I've helped some, Bob -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Continuous pinging - affecting performance ???
On Saturday, September 4, 2004, at 10:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 08:08 PM -0600 09/02/2004, Bob wrote: The National Enquirer reports at 8:22 PM +0200 9/2/04, Larry le Mac wrote: However, sending the 64 bytes every second, how will that affect performance ? It's not your performance that should be of concern. This is not said in an accusatory manner, but it has always been considered very poor netiquette to constantly ping an ISP. It will unnecessarily waste **their** resources. Exactly. Perception of FLOOD -- a violation of your TOS/AUP. How would you feel if someone tossed a pebble at your office window once every second? Once a minute is MORE than ample for a keep-alive ping. Once every few minutes would be even better... Entirely OT, but this reminded me of a recent Dr. Fun cartoon... http://www.ibiblio.org/Dave/Dr-Fun/df200408/df20040818.jpg -- Wherever you go, there you are. - B. Banzai, Ph.D. Bruce Johnson -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
National Enquirer/was Re: Continuous pinging - affecting performance ???
On Sunday, September 5, 2004, at 10:52 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Saturday, September 4, 2004, at 10:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 08:08 PM -0600 09/02/2004, Bob wrote: The National Enquirer reports at 8:22 PM +0200 9/2/04, Larry le Mac wrote: However, sending the 64 bytes every second, how will that affect performance ? How does the National Enquirer end up in the history of the replies as above? Can one customize the way the mail in this way? I'm used to seeing At 08:08 PM -0600 09/02/2004, Bob wrote:. is it just that National Enquirer is entered as a user name? I had to laugh when I've seen it in the past and now I'm wondering, how this was set up? Thanks, Donald -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Continuous pinging - affecting performance ???
At 08:08 PM -0600 09/02/2004, Bob wrote: The National Enquirer reports at 8:22 PM +0200 9/2/04, Larry le Mac wrote: However, sending the 64 bytes every second, how will that affect performance ? It's not your performance that should be of concern. This is not said in an accusatory manner, but it has always been considered very poor netiquette to constantly ping an ISP. It will unnecessarily waste **their** resources. Exactly. Perception of FLOOD -- a violation of your TOS/AUP. How would you feel if someone tossed a pebble at your office window once every second? Once a minute is MORE than ample for a keep-alive ping. Once every few minutes would be even better... - Dan. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Continuous pinging - affecting performance ???
The National Enquirer reports at 1:46 PM +1000 9/3/04, Dana Sibera wrote: On 03/09/2004, at 4:22 AM, Larry le Mac wrote: In an attempt to keep my Mac/ADSL online all the time irrelevant of net activity I have now set Network Tool to continuously ping my ISP, seems to work... However, sending the 64 bytes every second, how will that affect performance ? I have a 512k ADSL connection. I presume not a lot... It'd affect you very little. you can do somewhere over 50,000 bytes a second on 512k, so 64/50,000 is miniscule. If you do want to spread pings out, and are OK with using the terminal, you can open it and enter: ping -i 300 www.apple.com for example, which will ping apple.com at 300 second intervals. That's only once every 5 minutes. Great suggestion, Dana. I had let that completely slip my mind. That's a much better suggestion than creating an AppleScript. Let me add the following to your suggestion: You can create a detached process (using the qualifier on the command above), and then close your Terminal session. One should be able to set up a cron script that will also permit you to execute the ping without leaving Terminal open. Bob -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Continuous pinging - affecting performance ???
In an attempt to keep my Mac/ADSL online all the time irrelevant of net activity I have now set Network Tool to continuously ping my ISP, seems to work... However, sending the 64 bytes every second, how will that affect performance ? I have a 512k ADSL connection. I presume not a lot... ??? Larry _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Continuous pinging - affecting performance ???
The National Enquirer reports at 8:22 PM +0200 9/2/04, Larry le Mac wrote: In an attempt to keep my Mac/ADSL online all the time irrelevant of net activity I have now set Network Tool to continuously ping my ISP, seems to work... However, sending the 64 bytes every second, how will that affect performance ? I have a 512k ADSL connection. I presume not a lot... It's not your performance that should be of concern. This is not said in an accusatory manner, but it has always been considered very poor netiquette to constantly ping an ISP. It will unnecessarily waste **their** resources. There may a difference of opinion now that we are in the paradigm of broadband connections rather than dial-up, but I have not seen anyone voice an opinion one way or the other. For pre-OS X, I have used StayOn! for several years. It allows me to ping at user definable intervals. So I ping every 3-5 minutes which is sufficient to keep my connection alive. Even then, I don't ping my ISP (although I don't see any problem doing that at 3-5 min. intervals), rather I ping a web IP like Yahoo.com. I doubt that StayOn! will work in OS X, although I've never tried it. If there isn't a similar app available for OS X, I'll bet it would be simple to write an AppleScript to ping at set intervals. My $.02 worth, Bob -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Continuous pinging - affecting performance ??? (P.S.)
I should have added that another option is to set your email client to check your email every 5 minutes or so. Does Apple's Mail app allow you to set the time interval for checking email? I know Eudora does. That will keep your connection alive. HTH, Bob -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Continuous pinging - affecting performance ???
On 03/09/2004, at 4:22 AM, Larry le Mac wrote: In an attempt to keep my Mac/ADSL online all the time irrelevant of net activity I have now set Network Tool to continuously ping my ISP, seems to work... However, sending the 64 bytes every second, how will that affect performance ? I have a 512k ADSL connection. I presume not a lot... It'd affect you very little. you can do somewhere over 50,000 bytes a second on 512k, so 64/50,000 is miniscule. If you do want to spread pings out, and are OK with using the terminal, you can open it and enter: ping -i 300 www.apple.com for example, which will ping apple.com at 300 second intervals. That's only once every 5 minutes. dana -- http://www.danamania.com/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
