Re: I got dem ol' Kosmic Pismo blues again mama >

2005-04-16 Thread themacuser 
Throw away an (almost) perfectly good powerbook? I'll have it if you're 
throwing it out...
On 17/04/2005, at 06:39, The Real Seed Catalogue wrote:

Put the RAM back where it was.
It very likely doesn't like one of the modules in the 'wrong' slot.
Also do alt-apple - O - F just after the BONG and when you get a 
DOS-like screen type 'reset-nvram' then hit return.

Can also type 'reset-all' instead.
Or, better still, throw the damn thing away. Sounds like a nightmare.

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Re: I got dem ol' Kosmic Pismo blues again mama >

2005-04-16 Thread The Real Seed Catalogue 
Put the RAM back where it was.
It very likely doesn't like one of the modules in the 'wrong' slot.
Also do alt-apple - O - F just after the BONG and when you get a 
DOS-like screen type 'reset-nvram' then hit return.

Can also type 'reset-all' instead.
Or, better still, throw the damn thing away. Sounds like a nightmare.

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Re: I got dem ol' Kosmic Pismo blues again mama

2005-04-09 Thread Peter Stein 
If you are back in there pulling stuff like your processor card, you really
should check your HD cable at the connection to the hard drive, it is
possible to have misaligned the plug and a pin is bent or you are off by one
pair of pins.

Just 2 cents worth. Good luck on the revival!



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Re: I got dem ol' Kosmic Pismo blues again mama

2005-04-09 Thread Jeff Drummond 
On Apr 8, 2005, at 11:28 pm, Bruce Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I seem to have been a bit unlucky when buying a Pismo on eBay. I hope
you don't mind the following shaggy dog story.
Firstly the DVD drive died within hours of receipt of the wee beauty.
I bought a replacement mechanism but I can't put it in the dead
drive's housing because I can't undo two of the screws.  However, I
was given an intact 24X CD-R drive and so I can put the DVD drive
into its housing.  This seems a waste. DOes anyone think I can drill
the stuck screw out without damaging the housing beyond use?
I guess that would depend on your skill with a drill. :) You might also
consider the old-screwdriver-and-a-bit-of-epoxy trick. Otherwise, I
you might be looking at a new drive caddy.
Next the power cable died. Replacement was easy and cheap, so I got
as far as installing and configuring OSX, classic and other software.
During a visit to England the power cables stopped delivering power
to the Pismo. I was able to keep it charged using my mum's clamshell
iBook cables.  However, I then used it quite a lot, such that there
was maybe 15 minutes left on the battery. Thinking that if the power
cable was new then the fault must be in the yo-yo (the old one had
had issues) I bought a brand-new one.
By the time it arrived, I'd also received a bigger HD and so had
installed that, following the Apple Service Manual's take-apart
methods. I did have some trouble taking out the processor card
because the wee plastic tag you have to pull on to extract this had
torn before I received the Pismo. In the end, I used a pair of
needle-nosed pliers to grasp the remnant of the tag and pull it up.
I also put a 512MB RAM card that had been in the upper slot in the
lower slot and put the 128MB card that had been in the lower slot
into the upper slot (to make it easier to replace this when I can
afford more RAM).
I'm pretty sure that I reassembled everything properly. (It's
possible that I didn't seat the processor card properly when I first
reassembled it.) However, I can't start the Pismo using either the
old nor the new yo-yo. The battery is completely flat but so long as
the power cables are delivering power, should this matter?
I can think of the following possible reasons for it not starting up
* I've damaged the processor card
* I've damaged the I/O logic board it connects to
* when taking out or replacing the hard drive assembly, I've damaged
the inverter board or soundcard (which also appears to be where the
power switch is connected. I can't see any damaged cables and I'm
loath to try to take it apart further to investigate.)
* the power port has been damaged by dodgy power cables.
* I've damaged the hard drive cable
I know both of the old hard disk and the new hard disk are OK - when
put into a USB enclosure, they mount on my G4/400 desktop.
Any thoughts on how I can diagnose the fault(s) or should I go to my
nearest Apple Service provider?
If you're not getting a startup chime, then the first thing I'd look
at would be the processor card.
A common problem with the Pismo is failure to reseat the processor card
properly. It always seems to take more force than I think it should.
I put a finger on the four corners of the card and press down firmly;
and I still fail to seat it properly about half the time. :)
I'd also inspect the processor card carefully for bent pins.
The battery being dead should not, in itself, be an issue. The Pismo
can start and run without a battery so long as it's getting power from
the power adapter. Your ongoing problems with power cables seems a bit
odd, however, and I wonder if it could be due to an intermittent
problem with the AC-power board or maybe the PMU.
Hope this helps,
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Re: I got dem ol' Kosmic Pismo blues again mama

2005-04-09 Thread Beverly Woods 
 Bruce Ryan wrote:
 I did have some trouble taking out the processor card 
because the wee plastic tag you have to pull on to extract this had 
torn before I received the Pismo. In the end, I used a pair of 
needle-nosed pliers to grasp the remnant of the tag and pull it up.
We've got that problem in a Pismo here, and there's so little left of the 
tag that I have to use tweezers. Not fun but it works.
I also put a 512MB RAM card that had been in the upper slot in the 
lower slot and put the 128MB card that had been in the lower slot 
into the upper slot (to make it easier to replace this when I can 
afford more RAM).

I'm pretty sure that I reassembled everything properly. (It's 
possible that I didn't seat the processor card properly when I first 
reassembled it.) However, I can't start the Pismo using either the 
old nor the new yo-yo. The battery is completely flat but so long as 
the power cables are delivering power, should this matter?

I can think of the following possible reasons for it not starting up
* I've damaged the processor card
* I've damaged the I/O logic board it connects to
* when taking out or replacing the hard drive assembly, I've damaged 
the inverter board or soundcard (which also appears to be where the 
power switch is connected. I can't see any damaged cables and I'm 
loath to try to take it apart further to investigate.)
* the power port has been damaged by dodgy power cables.
* I've damaged the hard drive cable

I know both of the old hard disk and the new hard disk are OK - when 
put into a USB enclosure, they mount on my G4/400 desktop.

Any thoughts on how I can diagnose the fault(s) or should I go to my 
nearest Apple Service provider?

I've often had that happen with Pismos after upgrades. Often the processor 
card is not properly seated in the reassembly process. You do have to push 
down on it pretty hard. Try reseating that and let us know if the Pismo 
comes on.

Beverly

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Re: I got dem ol' Kosmic Pismo blues again mama

2005-04-09 Thread Tim 
On Apr 9, 2005, at 2:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Three things come to mind that you can do yourself:
Unplug and remove battery, make sure the reset button has been reset 
(on the
back panel with all the ports)

Make sure processor card IS seated PROPERLY.  Can sometimes fool you.
Make sure ram is seated properly.  There is also ram voodoo.  Some 
cards
work well in one slot while nopt in the other.  Some work not at all.  
Try
flipping the chips around.

PS, a good fix for your nubby pull tab is to add plain old cellophane 
tape.
I second that.  Check your processor card seating and your ram needs to 
snap into the slot, not just be pushed down into it.  Be careful, 
tho.
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Re: I got dem ol' Kosmic Pismo blues again mama

2005-04-09 Thread illovox 
Three things come to mind that you can do yourself:

Unplug and remove battery, make sure the reset button has been reset (on the
back panel with all the ports)

Make sure processor card IS seated PROPERLY.  Can sometimes fool you.

Make sure ram is seated properly.  There is also ram voodoo.  Some cards
work well in one slot while nopt in the other.  Some work not at all.  Try
flipping the chips around.

PS, a good fix for your nubby pull tab is to add plain old cellophane tape.

Run Vzel
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> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 23:06:43 +0100
> From: Bruce Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: I got dem ol' Kosmic Pismo blues again mama
> 
> ...
> I also put a 512MB RAM card that had been in the upper slot in the
> lower slot and put the 128MB card that had been in the lower slot
> into the upper slot (to make it easier to replace this when I can
> afford more RAM).
> 
> I'm pretty sure that I reassembled everything properly. (It's
> possible that I didn't seat the processor card properly when I first
> reassembled it.) However, I can't start the Pismo using either the
> old nor the new yo-yo. The battery is completely flat but so long as
> the power cables are delivering power, should this matter?
> 
> I can think of the following possible reasons for it not starting up
> * I've damaged the processor card
> * I've damaged the I/O logic board it connects to
> * when taking out or replacing the hard drive assembly, I've damaged
> the inverter board or soundcard (which also appears to be where the
> power switch is connected. I can't see any damaged cables and I'm
> loath to try to take it apart further to investigate.)
> * the power port has been damaged by dodgy power cables.
> * I've damaged the hard drive cable
> ...
> Bruce Ryan
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Re: I got dem ol' Kosmic Pismo blues again mama

2005-04-08 Thread Andrea Stansbury 
With that level of problems I'd go to the nearest Apple Service 
provider.  The repairs at that point might be a lot more than it's 
worth.  Sorry to hear of your blues.

On Apr 8, 2005, at 10:45 PM, Chad Swarthout wrote:
Gosh, I'd just toss it!  I'm not sure what to do, honestly.
On Apr 8, 2005 5:06 PM, Bruce Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Dear Listers
I seem to have been a bit unlucky when buying a Pismo on eBay. I hope
you don't mind the following shaggy dog story.
Firstly the DVD drive died within hours of receipt of the wee beauty.
I bought a replacement mechanism but I can't put it in the dead
drive's housing because I can't undo two of the screws.  However, I
was given an intact 24X CD-R drive and so I can put the DVD drive
into its housing.  This seems a waste. DOes anyone think I can drill
the stuck screw out without damaging the housing beyond use?
Next the power cable died. Replacement was easy and cheap, so I got
as far as installing and configuring OSX, classic and other software.
During a visit to England the power cables stopped delivering power
to the Pismo. I was able to keep it charged using my mum's clamshell
iBook cables.  However, I then used it quite a lot, such that there
was maybe 15 minutes left on the battery. Thinking that if the power
cable was new then the fault must be in the yo-yo (the old one had
had issues) I bought a brand-new one.
By the time it arrived, I'd also received a bigger HD and so had
installed that, following the Apple Service Manual's take-apart
methods. I did have some trouble taking out the processor card
because the wee plastic tag you have to pull on to extract this had
torn before I received the Pismo. In the end, I used a pair of
needle-nosed pliers to grasp the remnant of the tag and pull it up.
I also put a 512MB RAM card that had been in the upper slot in the
lower slot and put the 128MB card that had been in the lower slot
into the upper slot (to make it easier to replace this when I can
afford more RAM).
I'm pretty sure that I reassembled everything properly. (It's
possible that I didn't seat the processor card properly when I first
reassembled it.) However, I can't start the Pismo using either the
old nor the new yo-yo. The battery is completely flat but so long as
the power cables are delivering power, should this matter?
I can think of the following possible reasons for it not starting up
* I've damaged the processor card
* I've damaged the I/O logic board it connects to
* when taking out or replacing the hard drive assembly, I've damaged
the inverter board or soundcard (which also appears to be where the
power switch is connected. I can't see any damaged cables and I'm
loath to try to take it apart further to investigate.)
* the power port has been damaged by dodgy power cables.
* I've damaged the hard drive cable
I know both of the old hard disk and the new hard disk are OK - when
put into a USB enclosure, they mount on my G4/400 desktop.
Any thoughts on how I can diagnose the fault(s) or should I go to my
nearest Apple Service provider?
thanks in advance
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Re: I got dem ol' Kosmic Pismo blues again mama

2005-04-08 Thread Chad Swarthout 
Gosh, I'd just toss it!  I'm not sure what to do, honestly.

On Apr 8, 2005 5:06 PM, Bruce Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear Listers
> 
> I seem to have been a bit unlucky when buying a Pismo on eBay. I hope
> you don't mind the following shaggy dog story.
> 
> Firstly the DVD drive died within hours of receipt of the wee beauty.
> I bought a replacement mechanism but I can't put it in the dead
> drive's housing because I can't undo two of the screws.  However, I
> was given an intact 24X CD-R drive and so I can put the DVD drive
> into its housing.  This seems a waste. DOes anyone think I can drill
> the stuck screw out without damaging the housing beyond use?
> 
> Next the power cable died. Replacement was easy and cheap, so I got
> as far as installing and configuring OSX, classic and other software.
> 
> During a visit to England the power cables stopped delivering power
> to the Pismo. I was able to keep it charged using my mum's clamshell
> iBook cables.  However, I then used it quite a lot, such that there
> was maybe 15 minutes left on the battery. Thinking that if the power
> cable was new then the fault must be in the yo-yo (the old one had
> had issues) I bought a brand-new one.
> 
> By the time it arrived, I'd also received a bigger HD and so had
> installed that, following the Apple Service Manual's take-apart
> methods. I did have some trouble taking out the processor card
> because the wee plastic tag you have to pull on to extract this had
> torn before I received the Pismo. In the end, I used a pair of
> needle-nosed pliers to grasp the remnant of the tag and pull it up.
> 
> I also put a 512MB RAM card that had been in the upper slot in the
> lower slot and put the 128MB card that had been in the lower slot
> into the upper slot (to make it easier to replace this when I can
> afford more RAM).
> 
> I'm pretty sure that I reassembled everything properly. (It's
> possible that I didn't seat the processor card properly when I first
> reassembled it.) However, I can't start the Pismo using either the
> old nor the new yo-yo. The battery is completely flat but so long as
> the power cables are delivering power, should this matter?
> 
> I can think of the following possible reasons for it not starting up
> * I've damaged the processor card
> * I've damaged the I/O logic board it connects to
> * when taking out or replacing the hard drive assembly, I've damaged
> the inverter board or soundcard (which also appears to be where the
> power switch is connected. I can't see any damaged cables and I'm
> loath to try to take it apart further to investigate.)
> * the power port has been damaged by dodgy power cables.
> * I've damaged the hard drive cable
> 
> I know both of the old hard disk and the new hard disk are OK - when
> put into a USB enclosure, they mount on my G4/400 desktop.
> 
> Any thoughts on how I can diagnose the fault(s) or should I go to my
> nearest Apple Service provider?
> 
> thanks in advance
> 
> Bruce Ryan
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I got dem ol' Kosmic Pismo blues again mama

2005-04-08 Thread Bruce Ryan 
Dear Listers
I seem to have been a bit unlucky when buying a Pismo on eBay. I hope 
you don't mind the following shaggy dog story.

Firstly the DVD drive died within hours of receipt of the wee beauty. 
I bought a replacement mechanism but I can't put it in the dead 
drive's housing because I can't undo two of the screws.  However, I 
was given an intact 24X CD-R drive and so I can put the DVD drive 
into its housing.  This seems a waste. DOes anyone think I can drill 
the stuck screw out without damaging the housing beyond use?

Next the power cable died. Replacement was easy and cheap, so I got 
as far as installing and configuring OSX, classic and other software.

During a visit to England the power cables stopped delivering power 
to the Pismo. I was able to keep it charged using my mum's clamshell 
iBook cables.  However, I then used it quite a lot, such that there 
was maybe 15 minutes left on the battery. Thinking that if the power 
cable was new then the fault must be in the yo-yo (the old one had 
had issues) I bought a brand-new one.

By the time it arrived, I'd also received a bigger HD and so had 
installed that, following the Apple Service Manual's take-apart 
methods. I did have some trouble taking out the processor card 
because the wee plastic tag you have to pull on to extract this had 
torn before I received the Pismo. In the end, I used a pair of 
needle-nosed pliers to grasp the remnant of the tag and pull it up.

I also put a 512MB RAM card that had been in the upper slot in the 
lower slot and put the 128MB card that had been in the lower slot 
into the upper slot (to make it easier to replace this when I can 
afford more RAM).

I'm pretty sure that I reassembled everything properly. (It's 
possible that I didn't seat the processor card properly when I first 
reassembled it.) However, I can't start the Pismo using either the 
old nor the new yo-yo. The battery is completely flat but so long as 
the power cables are delivering power, should this matter?

I can think of the following possible reasons for it not starting up
* I've damaged the processor card
* I've damaged the I/O logic board it connects to
* when taking out or replacing the hard drive assembly, I've damaged 
the inverter board or soundcard (which also appears to be where the 
power switch is connected. I can't see any damaged cables and I'm 
loath to try to take it apart further to investigate.)
* the power port has been damaged by dodgy power cables.
* I've damaged the hard drive cable

I know both of the old hard disk and the new hard disk are OK - when 
put into a USB enclosure, they mount on my G4/400 desktop.

Any thoughts on how I can diagnose the fault(s) or should I go to my 
nearest Apple Service provider?

thanks in advance
Bruce Ryan
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