Re: Lombard & OSX

[mmnihals]

Good luck. :)



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Re: Lombard & OSX

[Polkadoter]

Thanks, for all the suggestions.   I think its related to the memory.   Will 
move the 128k stick (actually a 256 but its a dual sided so only sees 128) 
from the top to the bottom and see what happens.   Right now when both stick are 
in OSX goes only as far as the installation screen, and when I take out the 
128 - it doesn't work at all.   So it must be the memory.   Might have to 
purchase more.
Linda

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Re: Lombard & OSX

[mmnihals]

As another poster said - remove all peripheral when you run the installer
(better to clear this option first before you dig in).

If that doesn't work here's an overview of how to get to the bottom ram
slot :)

http://www.transintl.com/technotes/installrampbg3.htm

more detailed instructions from Apple

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25002

accessed from http://www.info.apple.com/usen/cip/

That 4GB drive will be a bit of tight fit but it should work - once
stuffed OSX 10.1, OS9, and LinuxPPC into my old 4GB drive. Still a bigger
drive is nice - IBM travelstar drives seem to work nicely on the Lombard.

Good luck



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Re: Lombard & OSX

[Laurent Daudelin]

On 16/04/04 13:59, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> How do I get to the lower slot?  The top one is easy to find.   The bottom
> one has the 64 meg chip in, so I thought I would switch them and take out the
> 64 
> meg.   I took out the top larger chip and only the original 8.6 disk will
> boot up  - the panther disks won't.  Any help is appreciated.  Also, the
> lombard 
> has a 4 gig drive - I will be updating in the future but for right now there
> isn't many programs on it.

Make sure you don't have any peripheral attached. Also, did you check if you
can boot another Mac with your Panther disk? Maybe the disk is damaged?

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Re: Lombard & OSX

[Al Poulin]

Linda at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I have a 333 lombard - I wiped the drive - its empty and now trying to=20
> install Panther.=A0 Every time it gets to the installation screen it freezes=
> .=A0 I have=20
> 192 meg memory and it says it needs only 128.=A0 Any suggestions,

I have a Lombard with 4GB hard drive.  I think that is too small.

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Re: Lombard & OSX

[Laurent Daudelin]

On 16/04/04 13:59, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> How do I get to the lower slot?  The top one is easy to find.   The bottom
> one has the 64 meg chip in, so I thought I would switch them and take out the
> 64 
> meg.   I took out the top larger chip and only the original 8.6 disk will
> boot up  - the panther disks won't.  Any help is appreciated.  Also, the
> lombard 
> has a 4 gig drive - I will be updating in the future but for right now there
> isn't many programs on it.

You have to carefully pry out the processor daughterboard. You have to be
very careful not to bend any of the numerous pins that connect the
daughterboard to the motherboard. However, it is easily done when you are
careful and know how it connects. I've done it multiple time without any
problem. The lower memory slot is underneath that daughterboard. I think the
trickiest part is making sure that the daughterboard is firmly put back in
place. You have to apply a firm push to the daughterboard which some people
are afraid to apply. If the daughterboard is aligned properly, there
shouldn't be any problem pushing it firmly into place. You just don't want
to put too much pressure to break the daughterboard, though!

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Re: Lombard & OSX

[Polkadoter]

How do I get to the lower slot?  The top one is easy to find.   The bottom 
one has the 64 meg chip in, so I thought I would switch them and take out the 64 
meg.   I took out the top larger chip and only the original 8.6 disk will 
boot up  - the panther disks won't.  Any help is appreciated.  Also, the lombard 
has a 4 gig drive - I will be updating in the future but for right now there 
isn't many programs on it.
Thanks, Linda


In a message dated 4/16/04 2:07:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< I got the same model Lombard running 10.3.3 quite nicely. I've been OSX

only since Jaguar. In my experience, 192MB isn't enough for OSX to run

smoothly. I had 192 MB myself before OSX. (a 128MB+64MB). Upgraded and put

in a 256MB chip in the bottom slot and the 128 in the top slot. At 384mb

the machine runs fine. My system profiler can't ID the ram chip type but

its been running since 10.2 first came out.


However since 128MB is the "official minimum" I'd say the next possibility

could be a problem with the ram chips. You could try with just 128MB to

see if the thing at least boots ok (assuming you have a 64mb+128mb

config).


If the machine worked ok with os9 then there might be an odd ram hardware

compatibility issue.


The other thing of course is to make sure the chips haven't popped out of

the slots (known to happen and is worth a look).


Wish I could recommend a good ram testing/diagnostic software other than

techtool that comes with Applecare CDROM. >>


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Re: Lombard & OSX

[mmnihals]

I got the same model Lombard running 10.3.3 quite nicely. I've been OSX
only since Jaguar. In my experience, 192MB isn't enough for OSX to run
smoothly. I had 192 MB myself before OSX. (a 128MB+64MB). Upgraded and put
in a 256MB chip in the bottom slot and the 128 in the top slot. At 384mb
the machine runs fine. My system profiler can't ID the ram chip type but
its been running since 10.2 first came out.

However since 128MB is the "official minimum" I'd say the next possibility
could be a problem with the ram chips. You could try with just 128MB to
see if the thing at least boots ok (assuming you have a 64mb+128mb
config).

If the machine worked ok with os9 then there might be an odd ram hardware
compatibility issue.

The other thing of course is to make sure the chips haven't popped out of
the slots (known to happen and is worth a look).

Wish I could recommend a good ram testing/diagnostic software other than
techtool that comes with Applecare CDROM.








> I have a 333 lombard - I wiped the drive - its empty and now trying to
> install Panther.  Every time it gets to the installation screen it
> freezes.  I have
> 192 meg memory and it says it needs only 128.  Any suggestions,
> Thanks in advance,
> Linda


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Re: Lombard & OSX

[michael Vogt]

Yes you need to have only one memory chip in one slot. some say to take 
out the bottom but I took out the top one then it installed fine
Michael & Sharon  Vogt <><

On Apr 15, 2004, at 7:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have a 333 lombard - I wiped the drive - its empty and now trying to
install Panther.  Every time it gets to the installation screen it 
freezes.  I have
192 meg memory and it says it needs only 128.  Any suggestions,
Thanks in advance,
Linda



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Lombard & OSX

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I have a 333 lombard - I wiped the drive - its empty and now trying to 
install Panther.  Every time it gets to the installation screen it freezes.  I have 
192 meg memory and it says it needs only 128.  Any suggestions,
Thanks in advance,
Linda

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Re: Sshhhsh...Lombard/osx asleep!

[Clark Martin]

At 10:48 PM -0700 12/6/03, Barry Erdman wrote:
Hi,

Anyone seen this?

After it's in sleep mode, nothing seems to wake it up, 'cept pulling 
the power cord and rebooting... (thank heavens for disk warrior!)

Solutions anyone?

333mhz Lombard 192mb ram
newly installed 40gig Hitachi DK23FB-40
Newly installed osx 10.2.8 (6R73)
Intermittent. Now it's wakes fine...


Okay, you do know about the harddisk and the sleep sensor issue. 
Actually, I don't know if it applies to the Lombard, it does apply to 
the Wallstreet.  I have an IBM/Hitachi harddisk in my Wallstreet. 
The magnetics in it will sometimes keep the magnetic sensor that is 
located near it from sensing that you have opened the lid.  It thinks 
the lid is still closed so it stays asleep.  First thing to try, put 
it to sleep using the menu command and don't close the lid.  If it 
always wakes from this it could be the problem.

There is a fix to this by shielding the drive with mu metal.  I've 
opted for a simpler approach.  If the computer doesn't wake I tilt it 
up or turn it around while tapping the shift key.  My theory is that 
the magnetic sensor is right on the edge and moving the computer 
around changes effect of the earth's magnetic field on the sensor.

FWIW, give it a try.
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Sshhhsh...Lombard/osx asleep!

[Barry Erdman]

Hi,

Anyone seen this?

After it's in sleep mode, nothing seems to wake it up, 'cept pulling 
the power cord and rebooting... (thank heavens for disk warrior!)

Solutions anyone?

333mhz Lombard 192mb ram
newly installed 40gig Hitachi DK23FB-40
Newly installed osx 10.2.8 (6R73)
Intermittent. Now it's wakes fine...

-Barry Erdman
Boulder CO
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