Re: Lombard frying batteries???
You are spending money like buying a Ti to repair a Lombard - WHY ? There is no PMU board on a Lombard - so what is being replaced/repaired ? Even if you are sending it away, take yer HD out - really easy in a Lombard A: I like the Lombard/Pismo form factor much better than the TiBook form factor. Also, the Lombard, if I spread the upgrades out over a long enough time, it'll pay for itself in productivity. Plus, the Lombard is much easier to upgrade... Sorry in my attempt at brevity I managed to lose all coherence - blame the ale ! I was trying to say, why pay that much for a repair - you could buy a couple of complete ones for that price ?!! B: I had no clue that there was no PMU on the Lombard. Thanks for telling me. Well, there is no PMU board, there is a power board under the trackpad, so I guess it is that one, a pretty cheap and easy to replace part. C: I know how easy it is to remove a HD on a Lombard, and I've rebuilt a PB 190 from parts, so I know how to do that stuff. You were concerned about sending the machine away with all your stuff on it, I was pointing out that it is a 10 second job to remove it on a Lombard, probably easier than any other Powerbook, so there is no need for that worry. -- Best wishes Malcolm Cornelius - The Powerbook Fanatic http://www.pbfanatic.co.uk -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Lombard frying batteries???
Caleb, did you reset the PMU? Resetting the Power Manager PowerBook G3 Series (Bronze Keyboard)computers have a reset button located on the back of the computer behind the I/O door. Press the button once to reset the power manager. The PMU is located (AFAIK) on the main logic board. There is a separate Power Supply Card (separate from the Sound Card which contains the power-in jack), located under the trackpad. I'm not sure exactly how (or if) its failure can lead to the symptoms you've described. *Not not-all-that-helpful advice* Really, the best thing to have in this sort of situation is a second identical complete working PowerBook. It makes things so much easier to have known-good working parts to swap in and out for testing purposes. */Not not-all-that-helpful advice* dan k -- . http://macdan.n3.net/ carracho://dankephoto.dhs.org:9700 hotline://dankephoto.dhs.org:9500 . -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Lombard frying batteries???
Caleb, did you reset the PMU? Resetting the Power Manager PowerBook G3 Series (Bronze Keyboard)computers have a reset button located on the back of the computer behind the I/O door. Press the button once to reset the power manager. I'll try that right now. I remember doing it before, but that was after I accidentally kicked the plug out of the wall before I got the NewerTech battery. The PMU is located (AFAIK) on the main logic board. There is a separate Power Supply Card (separate from the Sound Card which contains the power-in jack), located under the trackpad. I'm not sure exactly how (or if) its failure can lead to the symptoms you've described. I'm pretty sure that the Power Supply Card would take the whole machine out with it, if it's as you describe it. *Not not-all-that-helpful advice* Really, the best thing to have in this sort of situation is a second identical complete working PowerBook. It makes things so much easier to have known-good working parts to swap in and out for testing purposes. */Not not-all-that-helpful advice* SARCASM Does a PowerBook 190 count? I've got two of them, one complete and one in pieces, if that'll help test Lombard parts./SARCASM Caleb -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Lombard frying batteries???
Dear listers, This is the second time I've had to email NewerTech support about replacing a battery, in the past month, but I'm starting to wonder if it's not my Lombard that's causing my battery problems, instead of the batteries themselves. I know the charging board is good on it, AFAIK, and the batteries did quit showing up as charged, with a corresponding light on the LED indicators on the side of the battery. Still, it's curious as to how a good company can send me two bad batteries in a row, without the possibility of a machine problem.. Well, hopefully you'll all have some good advice for me, Caleb P.S. Is it wrong to send messages to both the Google Groups and the old Maclaunch list, or is it acceptable? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Lombard frying batteries???
Dear listers, This is the second time I've had to email NewerTech support about replacing a battery, in the past month, but I'm starting to wonder if it's not my Lombard that's causing my battery problems, instead of the batteries themselves. I know the charging board is good on it, AFAIK, and the batteries did quit showing up as charged, with a corresponding light on the LED indicators on the side of the battery. Still, it's curious as to how a good company can send me two bad batteries in a row, without the possibility of a machine problem.. Well, hopefully you'll all have some good advice for me, Caleb I dont know why, but I have had _zero_ luck bringing any third party WS or lombard batteries back to life. BTI or Newertech. Mad Dog -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Lombard frying batteries???
I dont know why, but I have had _zero_ luck bringing any third party WS or lombard batteries back to life. BTI or Newertech. Well, I called NewerTech and they think it's a bad PMU, but I still want a second opinion. They did say that they could get approval for another replacement, if I wanted to, however. So, are there any other symptoms of a bad PMU other than fried batteries? I really don't want to ship my machine off, because it's got all my stuff on it, and it's got a couple of cracks in the lower case, and one to the left of the LCD on the inside of the lid that I don't want to stress any more than I have to. Also, before I forget, does anyone know the keyboard combination to force the fans to come on, because I suspect that mine has a bad fan, as well. *sighs as he's planning on spending the price of a used TiBook to get the Lombard fixed* Caleb -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Lombard frying batteries???
I dont know why, but I have had _zero_ luck bringing any third party WS or lombard batteries back to life. BTI or Newertech. Well, I called NewerTech and they think it's a bad PMU, but I still want a second opinion. They did say that they could get approval for another replacement, if I wanted to, however. So, are there any other symptoms of a bad PMU other than fried batteries? I really don't want to ship my machine off, because it's got all my stuff on it, and it's got a couple of cracks in the lower case, and one to the left of the LCD on the inside of the lid that I don't want to stress any more than I have to. Also, before I forget, does anyone know the keyboard combination to force the fans to come on, because I suspect that mine has a bad fan, as well. *sighs as he's planning on spending the price of a used TiBook to get the Lombard fixed* Caleb Did you notice any odd behavior ? For example my primary lombard will charge my one good battery even though the battery reads 100%. This worries me. You can always try swapping out the PMU - if I knew where it was. Mad Dog -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Lombard frying batteries???
I dont know why, but I have had _zero_ luck bringing any third party WS or lombard batteries back to life. BTI or Newertech. Well, I called NewerTech and they think it's a bad PMU, but I still want a second opinion. They did say that they could get approval for another replacement, if I wanted to, however. So, are there any other symptoms of a bad PMU other than fried batteries? I really don't want to ship my machine off, because it's got all my stuff on it, and it's got a couple of cracks in the lower case, and one to the left of the LCD on the inside of the lid that I don't want to stress any more than I have to. Also, before I forget, does anyone know the keyboard combination to force the fans to come on, because I suspect that mine has a bad fan, as well. *sighs as he's planning on spending the price of a used TiBook to get the Lombard fixed* Mate Not sure what you are saying here ... You are spending money like buying a Ti to repair a Lombard - WHY ? There is no PMU board on a Lombard - so what is being replaced/repaired ? Even if you are sending it away, take yer HD out - really easy in a Lombard ! -- Best wishes Malcolm Cornelius - The Powerbook Fanatic http://www.pbfanatic.co.uk -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Lombard frying batteries???
Mate Not sure what you are saying here ... You are spending money like buying a Ti to repair a Lombard - WHY ? There is no PMU board on a Lombard - so what is being replaced/repaired ? Even if you are sending it away, take yer HD out - really easy in a Lombard ! A: I like the Lombard/Pismo form factor much better than the TiBook form factor. Also, the Lombard, if I spread the upgrades out over a long enough time, it'll pay for itself in productivity. Plus, the Lombard is much easier to upgrade... B: I had no clue that there was no PMU on the Lombard. Thanks for telling me. C: I know how easy it is to remove a HD on a Lombard, and I've rebuilt a PB 190 from parts, so I know how to do that stuff. Thanks for the info, Caleb -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---