Re: New PB 15 Alu SLOOOOW ?

2004-05-08 Thread Larry le Mac
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The conversion may however need all the resources it's asking for, so
make sure to check the quality of the material at least one time.
I'd give it all anyway as I want the CDs ripped as fast as possible.

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Re: New PB 15 Alu SLOOOOW ? (update)

2004-05-08 Thread Larry le Mac
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You mean, just before your hard drive fills up?
No worries, I have 1TB in my Wind tunnel with plenty of
space yet.  :o)
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Re: New PB 15 Alu SLOOOOW ?

2004-05-06 Thread Larry le Mac
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Is it always seeming to be a bit sluggish in response no matter what you're 
doing?
Sounds a little stoopid, but I'm not sure...
Reason, because I am encoding a serious amount of audio books to AAC,
each book having 10-15 CDs and we're not just talking one or two books.
Changing CDs have become as automatic as lifting my cup of tea, so I
suppose it is possible that this is the cause, seeing as my PB is encoding
audio 90% of the time I'm using it.
:o/
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Re: New PB 15 Alu SLOOOOW ?

2004-05-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 5/6/04 2:27 AM, Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Changing CDs have become as automatic as lifting my cup of tea, so I
 suppose it is possible that this is the cause, seeing as my PB is encoding
 audio 90% of the time I'm using it.
 
The good news is that OS X utilizes pre-emptive multitasking which means
that processes requiring CPU time get it. This allows a program in the
background to continue operating while we are using the program in the
foreground. Finally! I can sort my massive database and read my email at the
same time.

The bad news is that OS X utilizes pre-emptive multitasking unlike OS 9
which used cooperative multitasking. This means that the program in the
foreground isn't able to utilize all the horsepower of the processor to get
the job done. This is one of reasons (but not the only reason) why VirtualPC
runs more slowly in OS X than OS 9.

When I read your message yesterday (sorry, I didn't have time to fire off a
response then) my first thought was your CD ripping. But as others
suggested, if it seems sluggish even when you aren't ripping CDs, create a
fresh account and see if it still feels slow. I can tell you that nothing
about my 1.25g alBook and nothing about my wife's G4 iBook is slow, hesitant
or sluggish.

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Re: New PB 15 Alu SLOOOOW ? (update)

2004-05-06 Thread Larry le Mac
Thanks everyone for info and I have to admit that it is/was the CD ripping.
This might sound like a really daft thing not to think of but as I have been
encoding MASSES of CD audio books at around 10-15 CDs each for what
seems like forever, I have become so used to, and may I say good at,
sticking a new CD in once the previous one was done, that I probably
rip a CD during 90%+ of the time I'm at the Mac.
It'll be nice when they're all done!   :o)
Have a nice weekend (I'm off work tomorrow!!  B-)
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Re: New PB 15 Alu SLOOOOW ?

2004-05-06 Thread Mikael Byström
Paul wrote:
Converting CD's to AAC eats a lot of bandwidth.
...Eats a lot of cpu power, not bandwidth, unless you mean the audio
stream is saturating the system bus. I'd find that unlikely in this case.

Richard wrote:
I recommend 
running activity monitor with the cpu bar up so you can see.  My guess 
would be that if its just running slow while importing that would be 
the culprit since importing eats away at cpu resources and also hard 
drive bandwidth and seeing as I'm guessing you have a 4200rpm hard 
drive in there that doesn't help.

You can also renice the process doing the conversion to make it less (or
more) straining on the CPU. Usually works quite well, but isn't perfect.

In the terminal type: sudo renice 10 iTunes 
(press return and then type your admin pass when asked)
to make app iTunes perform slower.

to make it perform faster you'd type:
sudo renice -10 iTunes

Fastest is -20 and slowest is 20.

The conversion may however need all the resources it's asking for, so
make sure to check the quality of the material at least one time. I



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Re: New PB 15 Alu SLOOOOW ? (update)

2004-05-06 Thread James Rohde
On 5/6/04, Larry le Mac wrote:

seems like forever, I have become so used to, and may I say good at,
sticking a new CD in once the previous one was done, that I probably
rip a CD during 90%+ of the time I'm at the Mac.

It'll be nice when they're all done!   :o)

You mean, just before your hard drive fills up? Have you ordered your 120 
Terabyte external drive yet? ;-)

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New PB 15 Alu SLOOOOW ?

2004-05-05 Thread Larry le Mac
Hi y'all!
I have a very new PowerBook 1GHz 15 Alu with Panther.
I have updated it to X.3.3 and not installed any odd stuff,
just the standard. 768MB RAM.
However, it does feel very slow with the GUI response, for
instance swapping tabs in Safari or switching program,
opening windows and such like.
I am more than not converting CDs to AAC, but I cannot
see how the response should be that affected, or is it ???
How relevant would a clean re-install be ?
I have masses (too mucy) experience of OS 7 through 9.2.2
but not with OS X and it's behaviour over time.
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Re: New PB 15 Alu SLOOOOW ?

2004-05-05 Thread Eugene Lee
On Wed, May 05, 2004 at 01:13:38PM +0200, Larry le Mac wrote:
: 
: I have a very new PowerBook 1GHz 15 Alu with Panther.
: I have updated it to X.3.3 and not installed any odd stuff,
: just the standard. 768MB RAM.
: 
: However, it does feel very slow with the GUI response, for
: instance swapping tabs in Safari or switching program,
: opening windows and such like.
[...]
: I have masses (too mucy) experience of OS 7 through 9.2.2
: but not with OS X and it's behaviour over time.

Panther's GUI is supposed to feel on par with Mac OS 9's GUI, speedwise.
But it might feel slower.  Quartz, OS X's graphics subsystem is completely
different and requires brawnier hardware.  Quartz Extreme addresses most
of the speed issues.

Then again, I disliked the Platinum look with Mac OS 8 and 9.  It always
felt slower than good-old System 7, and way too much gray.


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Re: New PB 15 Alu SLOOOOW ?

2004-05-05 Thread Mikael Byström
Larry, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

I have a very new PowerBook 1GHz 15 Alu with Panther.
I have updated it to X.3.3 and not installed any odd stuff,
just the standard. 768MB RAM.

However, it does feel very slow with the GUI response, for
instance swapping tabs in Safari or switching program,
opening windows and such like.

I am more than not converting CDs to AAC, but I cannot
see how the response should be that affected, or is it ???

How relevant would a clean re-install be ?

I'd do it, but first try and make a new user and see if that user logged
in feels faster. A 1Ghz should NOT feel slow. I have a 266Mhz G3 with 384
MB RAM runing 10.3.3 and that is not slow. See what I mean?



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Re: New PB 15 Alu SLOOOOW ?

2004-05-05 Thread Larry le Mac
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Panther's GUI is supposed to feel on par with Mac OS 9's GUI, speedwise.
I think you may have misunderstood my question as I am simply
saying that THIS Mac feels much slower, hesitations when switching
window or app etc.
I have an MDD, a G4 Gb and I recently had an eMac 1GHz and
they didn't feel slow to respond.
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Re: New PB 15 Alu SLOOOOW ?

2004-05-05 Thread Larry le Mac
From: Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'd do it, but first try and make a new user and see if that user logged
in feels faster. A 1Ghz should NOT feel slow. I have a 266Mhz G3 with
384 MB RAM runing 10.3.3 and that is not slow. See what I mean?
Yes, I do! Claiming that OS X.3 needs a 1GHz + Mac demotes
any critisism one might have of Micro$oft and they're power
hungry attempts at an OS.
I will follow your advice.
Tackar!!  :o)
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Re: New PB 15 Alu SLOOOOW ?

2004-05-05 Thread Paul Nicholson
Larry,
Converting CD's to AAC eats a lot of bandwidth. How does it feel 
perform when you are not doing conversions?

Paul
On May 5, 2004, at 4:13 AM, Larry le Mac wrote:
Hi y'all!
I have a very new PowerBook 1GHz 15 Alu with Panther.
I have updated it to X.3.3 and not installed any odd stuff,
just the standard. 768MB RAM.
However, it does feel very slow with the GUI response, for
instance swapping tabs in Safari or switching program,
opening windows and such like.
I am more than not converting CDs to AAC, but I cannot
see how the response should be that affected, or is it ???
How relevant would a clean re-install be ?
I have masses (too mucy) experience of OS 7 through 9.2.2
but not with OS X and it's behaviour over time.
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Re: New PB 15 Alu SLOOOOW ?

2004-05-05 Thread Richard Bae
Is it always seeming to be a bit sluggish in response no matter what 
you're doing?  Or just during importing CDs to iTunes?  I recommend 
running activity monitor with the cpu bar up so you can see.  My guess 
would be that if its just running slow while importing that would be 
the culprit since importing eats away at cpu resources and also hard 
drive bandwidth and seeing as I'm guessing you have a 4200rpm hard 
drive in there that doesn't help.

-Richard Bae
On 5 May 2004, at 12.52, Paul Nicholson wrote:
Larry,
Converting CD's to AAC eats a lot of bandwidth. How does it feel 
perform when you are not doing conversions?

Paul
On May 5, 2004, at 4:13 AM, Larry le Mac wrote:
Hi y'all!
I have a very new PowerBook 1GHz 15 Alu with Panther.
I have updated it to X.3.3 and not installed any odd stuff,
just the standard. 768MB RAM.
However, it does feel very slow with the GUI response, for
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