Re: OS X (10.2.2) successful on Wallstreet
The ATI RagePro mod description mentions opening a file with either pico or vi... huh? What is pico and vi? Byron On Monday, August 4, 2003, at 09:24 AM, Kai Robinson wrote: If you want decent video performance - other than changing to 16-bit colour, there are two things you can do. a) Download and Install GrackleProbe to enable extra PCI options b) Read the ATI RagePro.kext mod on: http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/OSX/osx_ragepro_driver_tip.html With those mods, SpeedBench for OS X reports that my graphics are faster than an iMac 333, as well as the CPU/RAM/HD - rather good i thought!! Kai -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: OS X (10.2.2) Successful on Wallstreet
The Pismo is so much more slimmer and lighter. Portability is important Wow... Pismo slim and light? I'm glad I never handled a Wallstreet, it must be a real boat anchor if Pismo is light by comparison. (Of course, I'm a bit spoiled, having been using single-spindle subnotebooks for the last few years). Wallstreet is kinda beefy...almost 8 pounds of joy for the 14.1 version. It's like carrying around a Papoose. It's ok, though...I've never had a laptop that's been less than 7 pounds. I've gone from a PowerBook 145 to a IBM Thinkpad 365X to a Wallstreet PDQ 14.1 and basically carrying them in a backpack has felt just about the same. All that extra beefiness comes from the extra thickness on the bottom (non-lcd half) versus a lombard or a pismo which are about 20% thinner on the bottom half. Yes, it does weigh quite a bit when battery and cd modules are in but, that extra height allows for two PC cardbua slots (type II) or one type III. I am not sure I will be buying a ti or al anytime soon though because of the rather ease with which damage, specifically scratches and dings occur on those machines. Quite frankly, the wallstreet is tanklike and seems built rather rigidly, as if made to last, save for the screen hinge. It also is not so thin that it leaves marks on the screen as well which is rather nice as well. Perhaps I should phone powerlogix and get on with it...long live the wallstreet! David Pekarsky -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: OS X (10.2.2) Successful on Wallstreet
specifically scratches and dings occur on those machines. Quite frankly, the wallstreet is tanklike and seems built rather rigidly, as if made to I considered Wallstreet and Lombard (as well as iBooks) when I was buying my Pismo a couple of months back. What decided me for Pismo was: a) reasonable pricing, b) large LCD, and c) inbuilt Firewire. -- Lewin A.R.W. Edwards http://www.zws.com/ Learn how to build high-performance embedded systems on a budget! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0750676094/zws-20 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: OS X (10.2.2) successful on Wallstreet
Pico, vi and vim are text editors. they're terminal based apps - carried over from generations of Unix/Linux/BSD Kai on 8/5/03 10:30 pm, mailmehere at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The ATI RagePro mod description mentions opening a file with either pico or vi... huh? What is pico and vi? Byron On Monday, August 4, 2003, at 09:24 AM, Kai Robinson wrote: If you want decent video performance - other than changing to 16-bit colour, there are two things you can do. a) Download and Install GrackleProbe to enable extra PCI options b) Read the ATI RagePro.kext mod on: http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/OSX/osx_ragepro_driver_tip.html With those mods, SpeedBench for OS X reports that my graphics are faster than an iMac 333, as well as the CPU/RAM/HD - rather good i thought!! Kai -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: OS X (10.2.2) successful on Wallstreet
On 2/8/03, Sid Barras said: I did put in a fast (20gb 5400rpm travelstar) Hard drive, and maxed the memory at 512mb, but other than that, my 266mhz G3 wallstreet is stock. I got acceptable performance since 10.1.5 - 10.2.5 on my almost stock 266MHz WallStreet, with only 192MB RAM and an IBM 20GB TravelStar HDD. I forget which, but one of the following release added (some of) the missing graphics acceleration for the WallStreet graphics chip, which also helps. But I succumbed to temptation a few months ago and got a 2nd hand Pismo - with AirPort, USB and FireWire. The most important thing for OS X is the video chip. My WallStreet flies in OS 8.1 - 9.2. It IS faster in OS 9 Finder than my Pismo running the OS X Finder. The Pismo is so much more slimmer and lighter. Portability is important to me. I am dreaming about a 12 G4 as my next PowerBook, provided my eyesight holds up... Mike -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: OS X (10.2.2) successful on Wallstreet
The Pismo is so much more slimmer and lighter. Portability is important Wow... Pismo slim and light? I'm glad I never handled a Wallstreet, it must be a real boat anchor if Pismo is light by comparison. (Of course, I'm a bit spoiled, having been using single-spindle subnotebooks for the last few years). -- Lewin A.R.W. Edwards http://www.zws.com/ Learn how to build high-performance embedded systems on a budget! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0750676094/zws-20 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: OS X (10.2.2) successful on Wallstreet
If you want decent video performance - other than changing to 16-bit colour, there are two things you can do. a) Download and Install GrackleProbe to enable extra PCI options b) Read the ATI RagePro.kext mod on: http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/OSX/osx_ragepro_driver_tip.html With those mods, SpeedBench for OS X reports that my graphics are faster than an iMac 333, as well as the CPU/RAM/HD - rather good i thought!! Kai -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: OS X (10.2.2) successful on Wallstreet
On Monday 04 August 2003 05:06 am, Lewin Edwards wrote: The Pismo is so much more slimmer and lighter. Portability is important Wow... Pismo slim and light? I'm glad I never handled a Wallstreet, it must be a real boat anchor if Pismo is light by comparison. (Of course, I'm a bit spoiled, having been using single-spindle subnotebooks for the last few years). Wallstreet is kinda beefy...almost 8 pounds of joy for the 14.1 version. It's like carrying around a Papoose. It's ok, though...I've never had a laptop that's been less than 7 pounds. I've gone from a PowerBook 145 to a IBM Thinkpad 365X to a Wallstreet PDQ 14.1 and basically carrying them in a backpack has felt just about the same. -.\\-H- -- Michelle Klein-Hass Box 2273, Van Nuys, CA 91404-2273 Brought to you by Linux, KDE and KMail...try it, you'll like it! -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
OS X (10.2.2) successful on Wallstreet
Hi all, to those who've held back installing OS X on their wallstreet because of all the naysayers, well, count me as one who's found it to run very satisfactory. I did put in a fast (20gb 5400rpm travelstar) Hard drive, and maxed the memory at 512mb, but other than that, my 266mhz G3 wallstreet is stock. And it is running fine. I did give up a tiny bit of functionality (I've got to search for drivers that no longer work for some of my older peripheral, and may not find the), but I also installed OS 9.2.2 on the other partition of the hard drive, so I'll be able to start up on sys 9 if I need to use these again. There is no question that in my mind the OS X interface is much more elegant. It takes some getting used to, especially the file handling and look of the windows. I do also kind of miss all the control panels and the ability to fine tune things more, but I think I can get used to OS X. Sid B -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: OS X (10.2.2) successful on Wallstreet
Congrats to AJ, Amanda, the lower slot will take a 256 low profile sodimm as will the upper, its space is large so up to a 2 inch Sodimm will fit the upper. And I am sending this from a wallstreet with 10.2.6. I have a 233 mhz board in a bag and a 500mhz Blue Chip running in it. Works as well as the daughters Ibook 700 G3. I am stumped as to how a unix system cannot deal with SCSI on this old book. Makes me scratch my head. TTFN On Saturday, August 2, 2003, at 09:54 AM, AJ Ward wrote: Coolies! How'd ya get the ram to 512mb? Amanda - Original Message - From: Sid Barras [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: G-Books [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 8:30 AM Subject: OS X (10.2.2) successful on Wallstreet Hi all, to those who've held back installing OS X on their wallstreet because of all the naysayers, well, count me as one who's found it to run very satisfactory. I did put in a fast (20gb 5400rpm travelstar) Hard drive, and maxed the memory at 512mb, but other than that, my 266mhz G3 wallstreet is stock. And it is running fine. I did give up a tiny bit of functionality (I've got to search for drivers that no longer work for some of my older peripheral, and may not find the), but I also installed OS 9.2.2 on the other partition of the hard drive, so I'll be able to start up on sys 9 if I need to use these again. There is no question that in my mind the OS X interface is much more elegant. It takes some getting used to, especially the file handling and look of the windows. I do also kind of miss all the control panels and the ability to fine tune things more, but I think I can get used to OS X. Sid B -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: OS X (10.2.2) successful on Wallstreet
it worked perfictley on mine which was a 233mhz but i gave it a 266 chip it has 320 mb of ram ind is fully upgraded to 10.2.6i did have to partition the drive into 8gb and 12gb to make it work tho otherwise it says it is not in the first 8 gb even if the hd is wiped clean the only problems are that it wont boot into os9 and my printer wont work(printer port) other than that i am happy i upgraded off os 9! n -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
