[OT] Customer 'Service' (was: Re: Painting AlBook ???)
On Thursday, January 20, 2005, Larry le Mac wrote: Sometimes one wonders how some people retain their jobs... Having endured a bout with both AOL's cretins (I'm sorry; I shouldn't insult cretins that way) and those at SBC/Yahoo in the past month, I will say AMEN! to that... And I don't want to get going on the newest form of torture, the voice maze hell (which only recognizes what you say about 60 percent of the time - my own experience, YMMV). Jim Rohde A child of five could understand this. Fetch me a child of five. - Groucho Marx -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Poor Apple Service Was: Re: Painting AlBook ???
Hi Larry, Yes, you can really wonder. I have made notes, I have the exact time for the call etc. and I really want to send a complaint to Apple. Have no idea where to send it to though, and to who there I should address it. I mean, if I had trusted her, I most likely would have given up this computer, I would have had to sell it again. I could have lost a lot of money on the whole thing. Now I have a keyboard on the way, they mailed me and said they had received it and sent it on to me with the airport express base... We are all humans, and I do not have any problems with a person making an error, if they just are a bit humble. When you tell them in a nice way that you know for a fact that what she is saying is incorrect, that you have checked this before and that you already got an offer for one from a different company - and she still will not give in or at least check the issue over again That is when I got really annoyed and I told her that I was really unhappy with the level of the service she was giving, that I thought it was really poor... She deserves to get a clear message from her superiors that this is not good enough, and I would not mind a written reply to a complaint... :) Aase :) Anyway, maybe contacting Apple would be a better idea (Maybe they had a dead iBook to pull one from)?. I not only didn`t get any help there, the lady flat out gave me incorrect information. She told me that it was not possible to change the keyboard, and no way would she listen to me. When I asked her What if a person`s keyboard breaks?, she told me that if that was the case, the person would have to buy a new computer. Sometimes one wonders how some people retain their jobs... Larry -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Painting AlBook ???
-Original Message- From: G-Books [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aase Marit Waage Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 17:57 To: G-Books Subject: Re: Painting AlBook ??? Anyway, maybe contacting Apple would be a better idea (Maybe they had a dead iBook to pull one from)?. I not only didn`t get any help there, the lady flat out gave me incorrect information. She told me that it was not possible to change the keyboard, and no way would she listen to me. When I asked her What if a person`s keyboard breaks?, she told me that if that was the case, the person would have to buy a new computer. Aase :) Changing the keyboard is a fairly easy process, you just have to be careful. Just look at the section for upgrading your memory in the iBook manual (PDF version here: http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Manuals/ibook/0221682i BookG4UG.pdf) It is under the Enhancing your computer section of the manual, page 55. After removing the metal RAM Shield you will see the connector for the keyboard. Look at the second and third pictures here http://www.bluap.nl/mac/ibookdual.php?ibookid=3 for the ram shield and keyboard connector. You just have to slide up the top part of the connector which will release the keyboard cable. Then pull out the keyboard connector, slide in the new one, and push down the top of the connector to lock the cable in place. Check here for more instructions on removing a zif cable http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/pcyc/zif.htm Then change you keyboard type under system preferences. If you ever need to send the laptop in for apple care just swap the old keyboard in and you are good to go. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Painting AlBook ???
Anyway, maybe contacting Apple would be a better idea (Maybe they had a dead iBook to pull one from)?. I not only didn`t get any help there, the lady flat out gave me incorrect information. She told me that it was not possible to change the keyboard, and no way would she listen to me. When I asked her What if a person`s keyboard breaks?, she told me that if that was the case, the person would have to buy a new computer. Sometimes one wonders how some people retain their jobs... Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Painting AlBook ???
From: Aase Marit Waage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have you seen a laptop painted with a motif? You wouldn`t be afraid that it could sort of ruin the simple elegance the PB has - the sort of minimalist style? The thing is, I am a serious Mac fanatic, ask anyone who knows me, however, I wouldn't steer my creativity based on the style set out by Apple. What I would do with a Mac (I have many plans) is not affected by Apple or their style, more my own imagination. Take a look at: http://www.paintedbytes.com/ http://www.applefritter.com/hacks (Click on laptop mods) Now, I am not saying that many (or any) of these are nice, but it is all what the owner likes that matters. Regarding the keyboard... I checked with a Mac support place and the price for a Mac keyboard is UNBELIEVABLY EXPENSIVE and as it is not a user changeable part, even if the PowerBook is out of warranty, you cannot buy it with them changing it, even if I have/will completely disassemble the entire PowerBook and repaint it... I am seriously investigating pinting the keys!!! Oh, and I keep my nails trimmed, as this I am sure has a big effect on the longevity of the print, even on the old black G3 PowerBooks. I just sold my wife's Lombard and half the key were hardly distinguishable... To me it looks very doable, the biggest problem is that the keyboard isn't actually the same layout. The Swedish return key is vertical while I believe the US is horizontal... Time will tell (as Robert Nesta Marley said...) Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Painting AlBook ???
From: Aase Marit Waage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have you seen a laptop painted with a motif? This is more what I was thinking about: http://www.applefritter.com/images/tidrag-3-1085_640x480.jpg Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Painting AlBook ???
Larry le Mac wrote: Take a look at: http://www.paintedbytes.com/ http://www.applefritter.com/hacks (Click on laptop mods) Now, I am not saying that many (or any) of these are nice, but it is all what the owner likes that matters. Until resale time rolls around, anyway JR -- This sig contains no political, religious, or commercial content whatsoever. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Painting AlBook ???
From: John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Until resale time rolls around, anyway Yes, that is one consideration, but I have had enough of me changing my Macs every other week (slight exageration) and never being able to settle. I am pretty good at finding cheap Macs but then find the temptation of selling them too much. I have so far built up a cash buffer of about the value of a new iBook, and having paid back the starting capital. As I said, I now need to settle down with one Mac that fits my needs, hence all the toing and frowing with which model. My reasoning with the painting is that if I buy a dented PB G4 Alu which has already got a lower value, I'm not going to harm the value by repairing it and repaingting it. In any case, it is the USE that is the value not the resell value!! I hate it when you see ads where people are selling a Mac with the text paid $4000 five years ago, want $3000... Forgetting actual hardware depreciation, five years of use costs more than $200 per year!!! Larry _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Painting AlBook ???
On Jan 18, 2005, at 6:01 PM, Aase Marit Waage wrote: Hi again Larry, Have you seen a laptop painted with a motif? You wouldn`t be afraid that it could sort of ruin the simple elegance the PB has - the sort of minimalist style? I think the candy apple red sounds really neat and elegant... But again, of course it is a matter of taste... Did you have a look at the red Ferrari laptop? There`s a picture at http://global.acer.com/products/notebook/fr3000.htm I didn`t look further though, I am sure that there are better pictures out there... But, as far as I can see, it really looks great. But a painted PB would look much better, no doubt in my mind :) When you decide, if you do it, you will just have to share pictures!!! Aase :) From: John McGibney [EMAIL PROTECTED] Candy Apple Red;) That's the one. My biggest problem is deciding between a straight (i.e. single colour) or going for a motif of some sort. A straight colour will always look good, while a good motif will look better, though a crap motif will look shit and spoil the PB. Here is a link to a cool looking TiBook mod: http://www.applefritter.com/node/1074 If you want to see what a Albook will look like in a variety of solid colors look here: http://www.colorwarepc.com/content.aspx?id=20#gallery I really like the carbon one. 700MHz iBook G3 640MB Ram OS 10.3.7 Laugha while you can monkeyboy. Dr. Lizardo(Bukaroo Bonzai) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Painting AlBook ???
From: MTH [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you want to see what a Albook will look like in a variety of solid colors look here: http://www.colorwarepc.com/content.aspx?id=20#gallery Really cool, somewhat expensive though. However, I wonder about the names Ferrari and Prowler... Slight case of copyright/trademark infringement... Larry _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.com/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Painting AlBook ???
I've thought of one alternative to painting it... Polishing it!!! Chrome look mirror finish :o) A bastard to keep clean though... Larry _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Painting AlBook ???
Hi Larry, I just have to say one thing though, I hold you personally accountable for my home being messy and that I didn`t even do laundry today ;) BGI had big plans for doing _sensible_ stuff, instead my _whole evening_ went poof - gone... Where I have been all night? The applefritter site and the other site you also gave me... I got completely lost and time flew!!! And it is all your fault!!! LOL OK... So... I give in totally You convinced me... I can just say one thing, if you can do something like some of these, I will just take a bow and say GO FOR IT Shoot, I hate to admit it, but I even kind of liked the green book with the flower pattern... Geeez, I never liked flower patterned stuff... I just can`t believe it, but it is just kind of cool... neat... fun retro... The only one that really made me go YIKES (big time juck, juck, juck), was the one with the spiders. I just waited for one of them to pop out of my screen to come and get me Eew I have to draw the line somewhere, and for me it definately goes with insects and bugs, he-he... Most of the books there were obviously real well done, most seem to really know what they are doing, and at least on the pictures, it seems like they have done perfect jobs. I just have to say, when you get there, you have to share pics, or I will get grumpy, OK? :) The only thing I am not too happy about, is that now I want to play too :( As if I don`t have enough not completed creative projects of different sorts sitting here, he-he... Male friends tease me all the time, for having more tools and gadgets than them all combined... One thing I don`t have and never tried though, is a compressor and an airbrush... It sure looks like a lot of fun!!! When (or if, if you didn`t make a final decision) you start, will you take step-by-step pictures like some of these other people did? And ask them to add it to the applefritter site? That would be real neat... The old PB electronic picture frames were neat too. I had to resist an urge to give it a try, but that I really don`t think would be a good idea for me, I never opened a computer or did anything that has to do with electronics, I can only perform the most simple electric jobs, those that we are allowed to do ourselves here. I do have a deep respect for electricity, LOL... I have only blown a main fuse and darked out the whole house once, when I was 12 years old. I did it right, just didn`t know about the importance of insulation, he-he... Learned my lesson though, after being subjected to an embarrassing serious talk by our electrician family friend who came to the rescue when the lights wouldn`t go on after the ordinary main fuses were replaced (Boy was I in trouble!) But with the help of a more skilled person, and some careful planning, I am sure I could do it... It would have been a lot of fun to make one, including the frame itself (a splendid occasion for using my fancy miter (sp?) saw!)... It would have been great with an even bigger one, to show photo art and other artwork on... Oh well, it won`t happen anytime soon, but in a couple of years, I will have a lot more time on my hands!!! LOL BTW, I looked around on eBay the other day, and there were so many old PB`s there, really cheap. I saw two PB`s, one 170 and one 165 that were ending in an hour or so, and they were at $9.99... Of course a color screen one would be more expensive, but it wouldn´t have to cost much at all. The 170 was my first PB, back in 1992, so I had to pull myself together to resist bidding on it. It would have been a lot of fun to own one again, just for the fun of it. Boy that was an awesome computer back then, everybody were jealous - I loved that computer... In your other post you mentioned painting the keyboard vs. getting a Swedish one. I really know what you mean about the Enter key. I am having real problems with it here too, as the Norwegian keyboard also has the larger, partly vertical one (like a flipped L, the International one plus the key upside it to the right, combined). I keep missing the Enter-key all the time. I have had a little keyboard ordeal too. I won`t feel really relieved until I have the new one here... I Before I bought this iBook, I talked to the guy who helped me pick all my previous Power Books. He now owns his own business, but earlier he worked as a consultant (at something like Hjälpmedelverket), working with computers and adapting them and accessories for people using them as assistive technology because of disabilities (The reason why I got my first PB was that I have trouble writing because of a disability I have, that is how I met him). Bottom line is that every time my computer has needed to be replaced, he has been there to help me, so it felt sort of scary not having him to guide me this time. I was so very happy when I finally got hold of him on the phone. One main
Re: Painting AlBook ???
From: Aase Marit Waage [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip You'll have to forgive me for not quoting your message... ;o) First of all, you'll have to add yourself to the list of people who blame me for far serious things than wasting an afternoon/evening!! Secondly, I agree, this sort of stuff is seriously addictive!! Why do you think I keep changing Macs and plans ?! I have owned over 130 Apples and Macs since 1993, including my beloved Mac 128 (early 64KB ROM version), Mac Portable (in which I was going to build a PB G3 but sense got the better of it. Current simple projects are fitting my G3 BW server into a Mac II case (from 1987), Mac IIg ? Mac IIg3 ? Mac IIosx (as opposed to IIx)? as well as making an old PowerBook 140 into a jewelery box for my wife, obviously with a mirror in the screen frame. :o) I have to admit that I haven't even finished reading your mail as I am watching a Beck film... I will read it tomorrow. Later! Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Painting AlBook ???
From: Aase Marit Waage [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am just now trying out the new iBook on the net for the first time and boy does things go faster than on the Pismo... Just love it!!! One of the biggest factors is VRAM for OS X!!! --- BTW, have you now decided for sure to go for the PB? I think I would have had problems deciding Em, no. I AM (!) having problems deciding!!! The issue is that the PB needs a new battery, but at least the I KNOW it is new, and that raises the price tag to just over 1000SEK (a basic 12 iBook costs 9495SEK with 256MB and combo), but that does include 768MB RAM and a SuperDrive. It also has AirPort Xtreme, which I know the iBook has. Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Painting AlBook ???
From: John McGibney [EMAIL PROTECTED] Candy Apple Red;) That's the one. My biggest problem is deciding between a straight (i.e. single colour) or going for a motif of some sort. A straight colour will always look good, while a good motif will look better, though a crap motif will look shit and spoil the PB. :o/ Larry _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Painting AlBook ???
Hi again Larry, Have you seen a laptop painted with a motif? You wouldn`t be afraid that it could sort of ruin the simple elegance the PB has - the sort of minimalist style? I think the candy apple red sounds really neat and elegant... But again, of course it is a matter of taste... Did you have a look at the red Ferrari laptop? There`s a picture at http://global.acer.com/products/notebook/fr3000.htm I didn`t look further though, I am sure that there are better pictures out there... But, as far as I can see, it really looks great. But a painted PB would look much better, no doubt in my mind :) When you decide, if you do it, you will just have to share pictures!!! Aase :) From: John McGibney [EMAIL PROTECTED] Candy Apple Red;) That's the one. My biggest problem is deciding between a straight (i.e. single colour) or going for a motif of some sort. A straight colour will always look good, while a good motif will look better, though a crap motif will look shit and spoil the PB. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Painting AlBook ???
Hi David, I am in Norway... I just got my new iBook, which has an international keyboard. I am now getting a new one, a Norwegian one. So what I need to do, is to change the keyboard definition in the system, then pop on the new keyboard. And I will be all set, with a new iBook that really looks like it belongs in Norway. And I can touch type in my normal speed again.. :) I would much rather do that than painting the keys. I really don't think that would be a good solution, at least not one that would last very long (painting on plastic, the preparation work would be a lot of work sanding the key's down, using special primer etc.). Why don't you call around to different Apple workshops and ask if they have a dead AlBook laying there with a Swedish keyboard, and if they can pull the keyboard and sell it to you for a reasonable price... I wouldn't ask Apple for help though. I think they may be linked together for the Scandinavian countries, because when I spoke with them, they kept calling me Swedish even if I told them I am in Norway. They probably use people sitting in another country. Anyway, I tried calling them here, and got no help at all. Actually, all I got was a big lie, that it was impossible to change the keyboard on an iBook, and that if you needed a new keyboard, you would have to buy a new computer. I am actually seriously considering to send a formal complaint. I luckily knew better already, I had checked that you could change the keyboard before buying the computer. But if I didn't know, and believed them, I would most likely have had to get rid of my new iBook, because I have to have the Norwegian keyboard, I just can't use an International one. About painting the titanium Power Book... You can take the whole case off, right? I would seriously consider to sand it down myself, then use the spackle (what do you call it in English, not sure that is the right word - Norwegian: sparkel, Swedish, maybe: Spackel?? - Du forstaar hva jeg mener?) they use for metal/cars (not interior snabbspackel, that does not get hard enough), then sand it even and smooth and finally take the whole thing to a car paint shop and get them to finish the job perfectly. Shouldn't cost much as long as you have done the preparation work which is what takes time. Or take it to one of the schools where they learn to paint cars. They normally do the job for free, you only pay for the paint. I mean, I would make sure that the paint job was totally perfect... While you are at it, you also have the chance to get a unique PB, why not go for a different color? How about shiny bright red? Now that would look real cool with the white apple... Oh well, you probably want it to look normal... :) Just my NOK .50 worth... :) Aase :) On 1/16/05 3:03 PM, Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My PB vs. iBook decision is nearing it's end and I'm leaning towards the AlBook. However, I am seriously considdering painting it, partly because it's fun but also because it has a dent which needs straightning. Anyone have any good ideas/tips for painting an AlBook ??? Unfortunately it has a US keyboard (I'm in Sweden) so I am actually considdering repainting the keys too, which makes the whole thing a lot more interesting... Love to hear from anyone with tips or experience. Do a Google search for painted iBooks. I've seen several articles one of which encouraged a student of mine to paint his. The lid is a waving US flag and the bottom is a blue field with stars. I don't recall the details but I do remember him saying the star field took him three attempts. david -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email:
Re: Painting AlBook ???
Hi Clark, He was thinking of painting the dented/scratched Titanium Power Book, right (called it Al(uminum)Book)? The iBook was perfect while the PB wasn't? Aase :) One consideration, AFAIK the current iBook is a clear plastic case with white paint on the inside. If you disassembled the case and stripped the paint you could then paint it on the inside as you please and the paint would be thoroughly protected. Mind you this would void your warranty. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Painting AlBook ???
From: Aase Marit Waage [EMAIL PROTECTED] It was me and not David who was thinking of repainting an AlBook, but that's by the by... While you are at it, you also have the chance to get a unique PB, why not go for a different color? How about shiny bright red? That's my point precisely, a different coloured PowerBook would be really cool, but even cooler if the keys were the same colour. There is automotive paint which is strong enough! Yes, spackel in Swedish. Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Painting AlBook ???
From: Aase Marit Waage [EMAIL PROTECTED] He was thinking of painting the dented/scratched Titanium Power Book, right (called it Al(uminum)Book)? TiBook = Titanium (1st generation G4 PowerBooks) AlBook = Aluminium (2nd gen G4 PB) -- The iBook was perfect while the PB wasn't? Yes, it's buying a dented/scew G4 AlBook 12 vs. a new iBook 12... Larry _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Painting AlBook ???
From: Dan K [EMAIL PROTECTED] FYI, AlBooks aren't painted (at least not the Al panels), they're anodized (a hard layer of aluminum oxide.) To refinish... I was talking of a serious custom job! Welcome to Pimp my Mac ;o) Larry _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.com/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Painting AlBook ???
From: Aase Marit Waage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ooops, sorry about the name mix-up, Larry!!! NP :o) --- I would be really tempted to make a custom PB if I first had to paint it. I think bright shiny red would be awesome on one of those... but of course, color is a matter of taste. I was actually thinking of deep red metallic! Larry _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Painting AlBook ???
From: Aase Marit Waage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ooops, sorry about the name mix-up, Larry!!! NP :o) --- I would be really tempted to make a custom PB if I first had to paint it. I think bright shiny red would be awesome on one of those... but of course, color is a matter of taste. I was actually thinking of deep red metallic! Larry Candy Apple Red;) John -- Arrive alive, hang up drive! -- Is this a bad idea? The folks at Sprint announced it is developing a TV cell phone. It will let you watch TV on your cell phone. They have the perfect name for it: 'Nine Dead in Interstate Pileup.' --Jay Leno -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Painting AlBook ???
My PB vs. iBook decision is nearing it's end and I'm leaning towards the AlBook. However, I am seriously considdering painting it, partly because it's fun but also because it has a dent which needs straightning. Anyone have any good ideas/tips for painting an AlBook ??? Unfortunately it has a US keyboard (I'm in Sweden) so I am actually considdering repainting the keys too, which makes the whole thing a lot more interesting... Love to hear from anyone with tips or experience. Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Painting AlBook ???
On 1/16/05 3:03 PM, Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My PB vs. iBook decision is nearing it's end and I'm leaning towards the AlBook. However, I am seriously considdering painting it, partly because it's fun but also because it has a dent which needs straightning. Anyone have any good ideas/tips for painting an AlBook ??? Unfortunately it has a US keyboard (I'm in Sweden) so I am actually considdering repainting the keys too, which makes the whole thing a lot more interesting... Love to hear from anyone with tips or experience. Do a Google search for painted iBooks. I've seen several articles one of which encouraged a student of mine to paint his. The lid is a waving US flag and the bottom is a blue field with stars. I don't recall the details but I do remember him saying the star field took him three attempts. david -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Painting AlBook ???
On 16 Jan 2005, at 9:26 PM, Clark Martin wrote: AFAIK the current iBook is a clear plastic case with white paint on the inside. Nope the ibook g3 was like that the newer ibooks have the plastic that is actually white. Richard Richard Clark http://rec.homedns.org NPDS: http://mawgadogsnewt.homeip.net:8088 ichat:mawgadog33 Yahoo:Ozzy_Wells Skype:mawgadog icq:115390002 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Painting AlBook ???
At 9:03 PM +0100 1/16/05, Larry le Mac wrote: Anyone have any good ideas/tips for painting an AlBook ??? From: Clark Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] One consideration, AFAIK the current iBook is a clear plastic case with white paint on the inside. AlBook... iBook... Uh, nah, I was talking about painting the aluminium. :o) Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Painting AlBook ???
On Jan 16, 2005, at 2:03 PM, Larry le Mac wrote: My PB vs. iBook decision is nearing it's end and I'm leaning towards the AlBook. However, I am seriously considdering painting it, partly because it's fun but also because it has a dent which needs straightning. Anyone have any good ideas/tips for painting an AlBook ??? Unfortunately it has a US keyboard (I'm in Sweden) so I am actually considdering repainting the keys too, which makes the whole thing a lot more interesting... Love to hear from anyone with tips or experience. Larry Here is the place to go for everything you ever wanted to know about modifying your laptop: http://www.applefritter.com/main Have fun. 700MHz iBook G3 640MB Ram OS 10.3.7 Laugha while you can monkeyboy. Dr. Lizardo(Bukaroo Bonzai) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---