Re: Pismo DVD/CD drive death...

[Jon Glass]

on 11/17/02 3:25 AM, Thomas Ethen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I was under the impression that you couldn't do that with the LG.
> 
> Tom
> 
> on 11/15/02 10:31 PM, Mark at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for everyone's input. I have seen a Panasonic replacement on the
>> internet for 79.95 + s/h that slaps into the expansion bay carriage. Anyone
>> have this drive or experience? It's a  CD-ROM/DVD drive...

I don't know about the DVD drive, but I just got today a Matsushita (i.e.
Panasonic) CDRW drive that was supposed to go into the Toshiba Lifebook
(from Ted Burford on this list--thank Ted! Got it today!) and the plug from
this Matsushita drive matched my Pismo LG drive exactly. It's in there right
now, spinning away. The whole process of swapping out the Toshiba sled with
the Pismo sled took all of a couple of minutes. I wonder if the DVD drive is
any different? Anybody have a picture of the plug from this thing?
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Re: Pismo DVD/CD drive death...

[Joe Ellis]

I've got your site bookmarked, I'll have to wait a while to get some cash
together. The ones noted earlier in this thread sold for considerably less;
as much as $89 in one case. Glad to know they are still available though.

Joe Ellis


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> Not to toot my own horn (too much), but we carry these (and many other pb
> parts), for those who are needing a repair/replacement..
> 
> http://www.wegenermedia.com
> 
>   OR the UJDA-720 drive specifically at
> 
> http://www.wegenermedia.com/pismop.htm
> 
>   (the 720 is the newer version of the 710--identical in physical design,
> and fully swappable with any DVD drive mechanism that had a Panasonic
> (SR-) drive.. It's an 8x8x8x24, whereas the original
> mother-of-all-modules was 8x4x24, from what I've seen).. Other than that, the
> two are identical.  Ours are set to master, making them fully bootable on a
> Pismo or Lombard..
> thx,
> 
> David
> 
> 
> 
> In a message dated 11/16/02 11:19:41 PM, you wrote:
> 
>> At the moment it seems the UJDA-710 drive is only available for purchase in
>> large quantities to resellers, I haven't found a single unit available
>> anywhere.
>> 
>> Joe Ellis
>> 
>> On 11/16/02 4:47 AM, "Raymond Wiker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


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Re: Pismo DVD/CD drive death...

[DavidWedge]

Not to toot my own horn (too much), but we carry these (and many other pb 
parts), for those who are needing a repair/replacement..

http://www.wegenermedia.com 

OR the UJDA-720 drive specifically at

http://www.wegenermedia.com/pismop.htm

(the 720 is the newer version of the 710--identical in physical design, 
and fully swappable with any DVD drive mechanism that had a Panasonic 
(SR-) drive.. It's an 8x8x8x24, whereas the original 
mother-of-all-modules was 8x4x24, from what I've seen).. Other than that, the 
two are identical.  Ours are set to master, making them fully bootable on a 
Pismo or Lombard..
thx,

David



In a message dated 11/16/02 11:19:41 PM, you wrote:

>At the moment it seems the UJDA-710 drive is only available for purchase in
>large quantities to resellers, I haven't found a single unit available
>anywhere.
>
>Joe Ellis
>
>On 11/16/02 4:47 AM, "Raymond Wiker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> James Rohde writes:
>>> You need the Matsushita UJDA-710. This is a Combo DVD/CDRW (there _no_
>>> DVD-R). Slimline DVD-Rs have only appeared in the last week in Sony &
>>> Toshiba models. The ebay store that often sells the UJDA-710 is here:
>>> 
>>> <http://www.ebaystores.com/id=10525630>
>>> 
>>> The alternative is the 330, which is CDRW only.
>> 
>>   http://www.pcliquidator.com seems to have a few of the
>> UJDA-330, as well as the UJDA-320F4. They also have a laptop DVD/CDRW
>> drive by NEC.
>> 
>>   See http://www.pcliquidator.com/displayproduct.asp?which=58
>> for details.
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Re: Pismo DVD/CD drive death...

[Joe Ellis]

At the moment it seems the UJDA-710 drive is only available for purchase in
large quantities to resellers, I haven't found a single unit available
anywhere.

Joe Ellis

On 11/16/02 4:47 AM, "Raymond Wiker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> James Rohde writes:
>> You need the Matsushita UJDA-710. This is a Combo DVD/CDRW (there _no_
>> DVD-R). Slimline DVD-Rs have only appeared in the last week in Sony &
>> Toshiba models. The ebay store that often sells the UJDA-710 is here:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The alternative is the 330, which is CDRW only.
> 
>   http://www.pcliquidator.com seems to have a few of the
> UJDA-330, as well as the UJDA-320F4. They also have a laptop DVD/CDRW
> drive by NEC.
> 
>   See http://www.pcliquidator.com/displayproduct.asp?which=58
> for details.


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Re: Pismo DVD/CD drive death...

[Thomas Ethen]

I was under the impression that you couldn't do that with the LG.

Tom

on 11/15/02 10:31 PM, Mark at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Thanks for everyone's input. I have seen a Panasonic replacement on the
> internet for 79.95 + s/h that slaps into the expansion bay carriage. Anyone
> have this drive or experience? It's a  CD-ROM/DVD drive...
> 


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Re: Pismo DVD/CD drive death...

[Raymond Wiker]

James Rohde writes:
 > You need the Matsushita UJDA-710. This is a Combo DVD/CDRW (there _no_ 
 > DVD-R). Slimline DVD-Rs have only appeared in the last week in Sony & 
 > Toshiba models. The ebay store that often sells the UJDA-710 is here:
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > The alternative is the 330, which is CDRW only.

http://www.pcliquidator.com seems to have a few of the
UJDA-330, as well as the UJDA-320F4. They also have a laptop DVD/CDRW
drive by NEC.

See http://www.pcliquidator.com/displayproduct.asp?which=58
for details.

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Re: Pismo DVD/CD drive death

[Andrew Main]

>What I suggest you do is send your machine in to Apple and pay the full
>charge for laptop repair, which is $350.  They will replace the drive and
>check your hnges and a number of other things.

Is $350 the total cost, or is it $350 + parts? If the former, it 
could be a bargain; if the latter, I'd suggest checking out
http://www.dttservice.com/, who offer free diagnosis, repair for cost 
of parts + $30. I recently suffered another common PB problem, 
Lombard CPU death; they replaced it for under $300, including 
shipping both ways.

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Re: Pismo DVD/CD drive death...

[Ryan Stewart]

I don't know if this is true that it is only the DVD module that fails. My
LG 8080 DVD is now dead for the second time, and my battery is dead for the
third time. *BUT this time the two died at the same time* In the
previous repairs, apple has just replaced the modules, obviously this is
only a short (2 month?) term fixit. I think it is a complex problem
involving the motherboard and module, as the folks with the Mashita DVD
drives have a lot less problems.

My applecare is good until Jan 2004 thank goodness!
Ryan


> The Pismo drive, particularly the LG version, is pretty notorious for failing
> early in life.  We see many in for repairs, and unfortunately, it is not an
> item which can be "rebuilt".. The motor fails and the result is that the head
> will not read more than a few times without losing tracks or timing..


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Re: Pismo DVD/CD drive death...

[James Rohde]

On 11/15/02 5:12 PM David Wedge put electrons to ether and said:
>
>> The Pismo drive, particularly the LG version, is pretty notorious for
>failing
>> early in life.  We see many in for repairs, and unfortunately, it is not
>an
>> item which can be "rebuilt".. The motor fails and the result is that the
>head
>> will not read more than a few times without losing tracks or timing..
>>
>> You can save a few bucks by getting a replacement drive module, and
>> installing it in your tray (the drive module can be removed from the black
>> plastic tray, and a new drive can be installed, using a small philips
>> screwdriver--it takes about 5 minutes).  We do this and several other
>> companies as well--offering a newer version, with a beefed up motor I
>might
>> add (LG finally figured it out after about a year, so the newer versions
>are
>> better).  It's going to set you back $100-300, depending on how you decide
>to
>> go about it.
>>
>A while back there was a thread about replacement CD-DVD/CDRW drives that
>could be installed on the drive module that were very reasonably priced. I
>haven't been able to track it down, does anyone recall them? I don't want to
>lose my current DVD playing capability, but it would be nice to have a CD
>writing capable drive also.

Found this from Oct. 8, 2002:
-

You need the Matsushita UJDA-710. This is a Combo DVD/CDRW (there _no_ 
DVD-R). Slimline DVD-Rs have only appeared in the last week in Sony & 
Toshiba models. The ebay store that often sells the UJDA-710 is here:



The alternative is the 330, which is CDRW only.

-

Also from July 31, 20002:

For an answer to the question about the DVD/CDRW replacement for the 
Pismo,
this is where I went to  get the info I needed to switch mine over.

http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/PB_G3/oem_combo_drives/notebook_combo_drive.html


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And from Jun 9, 2002:

I did the UJDA330 and it works great in my Pismo (very easy conversion)
although the face plate doesn't quite cover the opening completely, but I
only have it in to burn anyway so it doesn't make any difference to me. If
you purchase one, get the blue face plate, as it matched the Pismo black
fairly well.

Tom

 - and -

>Does anyone know where I can get a VST expansion bay
>cdr/w. I've seen people online selling them with there
>powerbooks and was wondering where I might find one
>for a good price.
>Thanks
>MR
I'm pretty sure they were available at $119 or thereabouts at the recent 
sale (refurb from smartdisk/VST). They're only 4x4x20 and bootable in 
Pismo only, not Lombard.

MCE's much more expensive expansion bay CDRWs go up to 16x write speeds, 
IIRC. They also made/make 4x4 and 8x4. They are also available for 
Wallstreet. Note that the Wallstreet ones are of a different form factor 
to the later G3 'Books.

The kludge is the UJDA330 and 770 from ebay - these are Matsushita OEM 
units you screw into your existing CD/DVD carrier. The 330 is CDRW, the 
770 is a Combo DVD/CDRW. Usually around $180 for the 770 and probably 
under $100 for the 330. Some members on this list have experience of 
putting these together.

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Re: Pismo DVD/CD drive death...

[Mark]

Thanks for everyone's input. I have seen a Panasonic replacement on the
internet for 79.95 + s/h that slaps into the expansion bay carriage. Anyone
have this drive or experience? It's a  CD-ROM/DVD drive...

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:57:49 EST
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (G-Books)
> Subject: Pismo DVD/CD drive death...
> 
> The Pismo drive, particularly the LG version, is pretty notorious for failing
> early in life.  We see many in for repairs, and unfortunately, it is not an
> item which can be "rebuilt".. The motor fails and the result is that the head
> will not read more than a few times without losing tracks or timing..
> 
> You can save a few bucks by getting a replacement drive module, and
> installing it in your tray (the drive module can be removed from the black
> plastic tray, and a new drive can be installed, using a small philips
> screwdriver--it takes about 5 minutes).  We do this and several other
> companies as well--offering a newer version, with a beefed up motor I might
> add (LG finally figured it out after about a year, so the newer versions are
> better).  It's going to set you back $100-300, depending on how you decide to
> go about it.
> 
> All that said, the Pismo is indeed a serious contender as one of the best
> Powerbooks ever to leave Cupertino. Very well built, very few issues,
> incredible expandability, and rock solid reliability.  I've logged several
> world trips on my own, as well as 15,000+ miles in the saddlebag of my
> motorcycle.  I love it..
> 
> Thanks,
> David
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>>> Okay - I am new here to the G-Books page and probably asking an old
> question.
>>> But I 
>>> just bought a great little Pismo 400 with 320 RAM, open box - new (no
>>> warranty) from 
>>> CompUSA. Everything seemed to work fine for a couple of months until a
> couple
>>> days  ago. Anywho the LG CD-ROM/DVD won't recognize CD's and the System
> profiler in
>>> OS  X.2.2 crashes everytime I take a look at the drive specs. If I run the
>>> hardware test I get it to read 1 CD and then it stops again. Are there
> driver's posted fro these
>>> GoldStar CD/DVD drives that enable them to be more reliable? I see a lot
> of postings on
>>> Apple's web support pages but everyone basically says "too bad" or "that's
> a bummer" but
>>> no  answers. The rest of the machine runs like a dream - just no i tunes
> or the
>>> like. Kinda  aggravating!!  Can anyone help me?
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Re: Pismo DVD/CD drive death...[TAN]

[Dustin]

>A while back there was a thread about replacement CD-DVD/CDRW drives
that
>could be installed on the drive module that were very reasonably priced

Try MCE
http://store.powerbook1.com/mcexcarprome.html

and

VST (refurb only)
http://store.yahoo.com/smartdiskstore/refprod.html

-Dustin


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Re: Pismo DVD/CD drive death...[TAN]

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- Original Message -
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Subject: Pismo DVD/CD drive death...


> The Pismo drive, particularly the LG version, is pretty notorious for
failing
> early in life.  We see many in for repairs, and unfortunately, it is not
an
> item which can be "rebuilt".. The motor fails and the result is that the
head
> will not read more than a few times without losing tracks or timing..
>
> You can save a few bucks by getting a replacement drive module, and
> installing it in your tray (the drive module can be removed from the black
> plastic tray, and a new drive can be installed, using a small philips
> screwdriver--it takes about 5 minutes).  We do this and several other
> companies as well--offering a newer version, with a beefed up motor I
might
> add (LG finally figured it out after about a year, so the newer versions
are
> better).  It's going to set you back $100-300, depending on how you decide
to
> go about it.
>
A while back there was a thread about replacement CD-DVD/CDRW drives that
could be installed on the drive module that were very reasonably priced. I
haven't been able to track it down, does anyone recall them? I don't want to
lose my current DVD playing capability, but it would be nice to have a CD
writing capable drive also.

Joe Ellis


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Pismo DVD/CD drive death...

[DavidWedge]

The Pismo drive, particularly the LG version, is pretty notorious for failing 
early in life.  We see many in for repairs, and unfortunately, it is not an 
item which can be "rebuilt".. The motor fails and the result is that the head 
will not read more than a few times without losing tracks or timing..

You can save a few bucks by getting a replacement drive module, and 
installing it in your tray (the drive module can be removed from the black 
plastic tray, and a new drive can be installed, using a small philips 
screwdriver--it takes about 5 minutes).  We do this and several other 
companies as well--offering a newer version, with a beefed up motor I might 
add (LG finally figured it out after about a year, so the newer versions are 
better).  It's going to set you back $100-300, depending on how you decide to 
go about it.

All that said, the Pismo is indeed a serious contender as one of the best 
Powerbooks ever to leave Cupertino. Very well built, very few issues, 
incredible expandability, and rock solid reliability.  I've logged several 
world trips on my own, as well as 15,000+ miles in the saddlebag of my 
motorcycle.  I love it..

Thanks,
David

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>> Okay - I am new here to the G-Books page and probably asking an old 
question.
>> But I 
>> just bought a great little Pismo 400 with 320 RAM, open box - new (no
>> warranty) from 
>> CompUSA. Everything seemed to work fine for a couple of months until a 
couple
>> days  ago. Anywho the LG CD-ROM/DVD won't recognize CD's and the System 
profiler in
>> OS  X.2.2 crashes everytime I take a look at the drive specs. If I run the
>> hardware test I get it to read 1 CD and then it stops again. Are there 
driver's posted fro these
>> GoldStar CD/DVD drives that enable them to be more reliable? I see a lot 
of postings on
>> Apple's web support pages but everyone basically says "too bad" or "that's 
a bummer" but
>> no  answers. The rest of the machine runs like a dream - just no i tunes 
or the
>> like. Kinda  aggravating!!  Can anyone help me?

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