Re: Pismo OSX upgrade
Bruce Johnson said: Apple has designed OS X with the idea in mind that root is NOT ALLOWED to log in. Don't second-guess them in this. This is not completely true. In Mac OS X *Server* root access is on from the get go. But you're right, that Mac OS X Client is designed to be able to administrate without the root user. It's a rootless system and root is not activated from the start. In reality though, some problems can only be solved by using apps running as root. But the best way then is usually using Pseudo or a similar app to grant specific apps root access, preferrably then the GUI tools needed for the job at hand. It's of course a good idea to know what one are doing with them and one shouldn't run apps as root unless this is really needed. In a majority of cases, an admin account should be sufficient. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Pismo OSX upgrade
On Monday, January 10, 2005, at 08:39 PM, Jeff Hubatka wrote: So back to the CD, started up, went to change password - and found only one user, that being root. So I changed that password, then started up as root. First thing I did was to create a new user with her same name as before, then log out of root. Do not, repeat DO NOT act as though a OS X system is like 'any old Linux box' Running as root is dangerous to start with, and under OS X introduces all sorts of problems; as you found out. This is why all the permissions were screwed up, and why it wouldn't boot You do NOT need to enable the root user, ever; if you need a root shell, 'sudo -s' serves quite nicely. Apple has designed OS X with the idea in mind that root is NOT ALLOWED to log in. Don't second-guess them in this. -- Wherever you go, there you are. - B. Banzai, Ph.D. Bruce Johnson -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Pismo OSX upgrade
Greetings all- Wife's Pismo 500, 512 RAM, 20GB, currently running 10.2.8. I'm trying to upgrade to Panther, and after a couple tries it finally seemed to install yesterday. However, now I can't actually start the machine from the internal drive. It hangs at Waiting foreither Apple File service or network file system. I started in single-user mode and ran fsck and it did a repair. Second time thru it said everything was OK but on reboot it's still hung up. So I started off the CD and repaired permissions, but same thing again. Then I started off an external FW (cloned) drive and repaired permissions again. It took over an hour to do what looked like 3000 permissions, but this morning it's still hung at network file system. Any ideas? --- JSH TiBook -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Pismo OSX upgrade
on 09/01/05 10:02, Jeff Hubatka at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings all- Wife's Pismo 500, 512 RAM, 20GB, currently running 10.2.8. I'm trying to upgrade to Panther, and after a couple tries it finally seemed to install yesterday. However, now I can't actually start the machine from the internal drive. It hangs at Waiting foreither Apple File service or network file system. I started in single-user mode and ran fsck and it did a repair. Second time thru it said everything was OK but on reboot it's still hung up. So I started off the CD and repaired permissions, but same thing again. Then I started off an external FW (cloned) drive and repaired permissions again. It took over an hour to do what looked like 3000 permissions, but this morning it's still hung at network file system. Format the drive and do a clean install. See if that helps. If you drive had bad sectors before the install, then your system is likely corrupted. The only way to be sure is to format the drive and reinstall... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fortrash /for'trash/ n.: Hackerism for the FORTRAN (FORmula TRANslator) language, referring to its primitive design, gross and irregular syntax, limited control constructs, and slippery, exception-filled semantics. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Pismo OSX upgrade
On Jan 9, 2005, at 9:42 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: on 09/01/05 10:02, Jeff Hubatka at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings all- Wife's Pismo 500, 512 RAM, 20GB, currently running 10.2.8. I'm trying to upgrade to Panther, and after a couple tries it finally seemed to install yesterday. However, now I can't actually start the machine from the internal drive. It hangs at Waiting foreither Apple File service or network file system. I started in single-user mode and ran fsck and it did a repair. Second time thru it said everything was OK but on reboot it's still hung up. So I started off the CD and repaired permissions, but same thing again. Then I started off an external FW (cloned) drive and repaired permissions again. It took over an hour to do what looked like 3000 permissions, but this morning it's still hung at network file system. Format the drive and do a clean install. See if that helps. If you drive had bad sectors before the install, then your system is likely corrupted. The only way to be sure is to format the drive and reinstall... -Laurent. -- I agree with Laurent, except I would zero out the data when erasing the drive. Click on options in Disk Utility just before clicking on erase. This way, you can be sure you got rid of whatever problems you might of had before. I once had a strange recursive problem years ago on a drive that eventually ruined my entire system. . .only to try the zero out feature which FINALLY REMOVED the actual problem. Z THE BLUETOOTH MASTER -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
