Re: Pismo Sleep Problem

[Joe Ellis]

>
> AFAIR, the Power Management Unit is on the Power board, the one that you
> mention is controlling batteries charging and is connected to the lid.
>
> -Laurent.
> --
Thanks, I think I've located a reference. Will report results when I get it
back together again in a week or so.

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Re: Pismo Sleep Problem

[Laurent Daudelin]

On 31/01/03 13:57, "Joe Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Laurent Daudelin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "G-Books" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 1:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Pismo Sleep Problem
> 
> 
>> On 31/01/03 12:35, "Joe Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> The Pismo has 2 different cards that relate to it's power management
> system;
>>> one is the sound card where the plug for the power adapter is located
> (other
>>> power control stuff?) and a second board called the power board that
>>> controls battery charging and is tied to the latch for the lid. One of
> these
>>> cards controls the sleep function; at least it controls how the hardware
>>> should respond to sleep/wake commands. I believe I have eliminated just
>>> about every software related cause of my non-sleeping Pismo so I am
>>> considering replacing the suspect card but I want to determine which
> card I
>>> should swap out. Anyone had experience in this area? Anyone know where I
> can
>>> locate a technical manual for the Pismo? A real one, not just the one
> that
>>> shows the ports.
>> 
>> I don't know how well it can relates to your problem, but back when I was
>> using a Wallstreet, it started developing a strange problem as it would
>> charge the battery and then, all of a sudden, it would declare the battery
>> as being fully charged, which it wasn't. After sending it to PowerBook
>> parts, the power management board had to be replaced. Please, be aware
> that
>> I'm not saying or implying that this is the part you have to replace, but
> in
>> my case, with the Wallstreet, that was it...
>> 
>> -Laurent.
>> --
> Thanks Laurent,
> 
> As I research this I'm finding there is a significant difference between the
> Pismo and Wallstreet as far as the Power Management is concerned. With the
> 2000 Pismo, they started using a different IC called a "PMU99" and this is
> the chip that controls all the sleep functions, what I am trying to
> determine just now is which card inside the the Pismo has that chip on it. I
> guess I'm going to have to further disassemble my machine to verify it's
> location. Since it's already partly there while waiting for my G4 upgrade.
> So far I haven't found a manual that actually shows it's location. The one
> in the Apple developer area has a block diagram showing the chip but nothing
> with it's real location.
> 
> Joe Ellis
> 

AFAIR, the Power Management Unit is on the Power board, the one that you
mention is controlling batteries charging and is connected to the lid.

-Laurent.
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Re: Pismo Sleep Problem

[Joe Ellis]

- Original Message -
From: "Laurent Daudelin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "G-Books" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: Pismo Sleep Problem


> On 31/01/03 12:35, "Joe Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > The Pismo has 2 different cards that relate to it's power management
system;
> > one is the sound card where the plug for the power adapter is located
(other
> > power control stuff?) and a second board called the power board that
> > controls battery charging and is tied to the latch for the lid. One of
these
> > cards controls the sleep function; at least it controls how the hardware
> > should respond to sleep/wake commands. I believe I have eliminated just
> > about every software related cause of my non-sleeping Pismo so I am
> > considering replacing the suspect card but I want to determine which
card I
> > should swap out. Anyone had experience in this area? Anyone know where I
can
> > locate a technical manual for the Pismo? A real one, not just the one
that
> > shows the ports.
>
> I don't know how well it can relates to your problem, but back when I was
> using a Wallstreet, it started developing a strange problem as it would
> charge the battery and then, all of a sudden, it would declare the battery
> as being fully charged, which it wasn't. After sending it to PowerBook
> parts, the power management board had to be replaced. Please, be aware
that
> I'm not saying or implying that this is the part you have to replace, but
in
> my case, with the Wallstreet, that was it...
>
> -Laurent.
> --
Thanks Laurent,

As I research this I'm finding there is a significant difference between the
Pismo and Wallstreet as far as the Power Management is concerned. With the
2000 Pismo, they started using a different IC called a "PMU99" and this is
the chip that controls all the sleep functions, what I am trying to
determine just now is which card inside the the Pismo has that chip on it. I
guess I'm going to have to further disassemble my machine to verify it's
location. Since it's already partly there while waiting for my G4 upgrade.
So far I haven't found a manual that actually shows it's location. The one
in the Apple developer area has a block diagram showing the chip but nothing
with it's real location.

Joe Ellis


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Re: Pismo Sleep Problem

[Laurent Daudelin]

On 31/01/03 12:35, "Joe Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The Pismo has 2 different cards that relate to it's power management system;
> one is the sound card where the plug for the power adapter is located (other
> power control stuff?) and a second board called the power board that
> controls battery charging and is tied to the latch for the lid. One of these
> cards controls the sleep function; at least it controls how the hardware
> should respond to sleep/wake commands. I believe I have eliminated just
> about every software related cause of my non-sleeping Pismo so I am
> considering replacing the suspect card but I want to determine which card I
> should swap out. Anyone had experience in this area? Anyone know where I can
> locate a technical manual for the Pismo? A real one, not just the one that
> shows the ports.

I don't know how well it can relates to your problem, but back when I was
using a Wallstreet, it started developing a strange problem as it would
charge the battery and then, all of a sudden, it would declare the battery
as being fully charged, which it wasn't. After sending it to PowerBook
parts, the power management board had to be replaced. Please, be aware that
I'm not saying or implying that this is the part you have to replace, but in
my case, with the Wallstreet, that was it...

-Laurent.
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Re: Pismo Sleep Problem

[Joe Ellis]

The Pismo has 2 different cards that relate to it's power management system;
one is the sound card where the plug for the power adapter is located (other
power control stuff?) and a second board called the power board that
controls battery charging and is tied to the latch for the lid. One of these
cards controls the sleep function; at least it controls how the hardware
should respond to sleep/wake commands. I believe I have eliminated just
about every software related cause of my non-sleeping Pismo so I am
considering replacing the suspect card but I want to determine which card I
should swap out. Anyone had experience in this area? Anyone know where I can
locate a technical manual for the Pismo? A real one, not just the one that
shows the ports.

Joe Ellis


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Re: Pismo Sleep Problem

[Joe Ellis]

On 1/30/03 1:41 PM, "Joe Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Laurent Daudelin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "G-Books" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:06 PM
> Subject: Re: Pismo Sleep Problem
> 
> 
>> On 30/01/03 13:00, "Joe Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
>>> to take the time to isolate the problem by dropping back to OS 9 and
> seeing
>>> if I can get it to sleep there, if it does, it can't be a power manager
>>> problem, it will have to relate to OS X. No conclusions until I see how
> it
>>> runs in OS 9.
>> 
>> I often have Entourage v.X and iChat up and running, with Entourage set to
>> check mail every 10 minutes and it doesn't prevent my Pismo from sleeping
>> nor does it wake it up. There must be something else with your setup...
>> 
>> -Laurent.
>> --
> As I said need to look at a couple of other things before I make a final
> diagnosis, BTW has anyone had any experience with power manager
> problems/symptoms? I'm an old Navy Electronics Technician so I'm not afraid
> to use a screwdriver or voltmeter (sometimes to my chagrin).
> 
> Joe Ellis
> 
Well, got home tonight and the FedEx box to ship my processor back for
refurbishment was here. Decided I check out my sleep problem before I take
the beast apart for the upgrade.

Started up in OS 9.2.1 and tried to get it to go to sleep, the screen goes
dark, sleep light blinks once and it immediately wakes up. Same thing in OS
10.2.3! Close the lid, sleep light blinks but I can hear the hard drive
cycling. With all the other tests I've run, I'm now fairly certain my power
manager card is faulty. I guess I'll spend the time waiting for my upgrade
being returned trying to confirm it.

Anyone on the list ever see the power manager fail this way? Resetting per
the Apple technical article does no good, neither does zapping the PRAM.

Joe Ellis


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Re: Pismo Sleep Problem

[P . F . Grenier]

On Thursday, Jan 30, 2003, at 09:33 US/Eastern, Keith Potter wrote:

> My Pismo has started having trouble in recent weeks.  It sometimes
> shuts down instead of going to sleep when I close the lid.  When this
> happens, and I restart, it takes a looong time for the grey logo
> screen to give way to the "Welcome to OSX" screen.  Has anyone had
> similar experiences?  Does anyone know a fix?  I am running 10.2.3 with
> all the updates.
>
> Thanks in advance...
>
> --Keith Potter
>

Try something basic like a PRAM reset. I have a iBook running OS X that 
started to wake when closed and sleep when open. The 1st thing I tried 
was a PRAM reset, on the restart I ran fsck (no problems.) All is well 
now.


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Re: Pismo Sleep Problem

[Joe Ellis]

- Original Message -
From: "Laurent Daudelin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "G-Books" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: Pismo Sleep Problem


> On 30/01/03 13:00, "Joe Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> > to take the time to isolate the problem by dropping back to OS 9 and
seeing
> > if I can get it to sleep there, if it does, it can't be a power manager
> > problem, it will have to relate to OS X. No conclusions until I see how
it
> > runs in OS 9.
>
> I often have Entourage v.X and iChat up and running, with Entourage set to
> check mail every 10 minutes and it doesn't prevent my Pismo from sleeping
> nor does it wake it up. There must be something else with your setup...
>
> -Laurent.
> --
As I said need to look at a couple of other things before I make a final
diagnosis, BTW has anyone had any experience with power manager
problems/symptoms? I'm an old Navy Electronics Technician so I'm not afraid
to use a screwdriver or voltmeter (sometimes to my chagrin).

Joe Ellis


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Re: Pismo Sleep Problem

[Laurent Daudelin]

On 30/01/03 13:00, "Joe Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> - Original Message -
> From: "Kevin Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "G-Books" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 12:37 PM
> Subject: Re: Pismo Sleep Problem
> 
> 
>> On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Joe Ellis wrote:
>> 
>>> My Pismo also appears to have a problem with sleep and after a lot of
>>> playing around with it, I beginning to think it may relate to OS X. At
> first
>>> I suspected that my power manager board has a problem but I think now it
> may
>>> relate to network activity over airport. My problem is I can't get it to
> go
>>> to sleep at all. I haven't booted back into OS 9 to see if it's there as
>>> well, maybe give it a shot tonight.
>> 
>> My Airport-connected Pismo is put to sleep 6-10 times a day with no
>> problem.  What "network activity" are you referring to?
>> 
>> KeS
>> 
> I usually have Entourage set to check mail every 10 minutes so I wonder if
> it may be causing the wake-up; but really, I just haven't taken the time to
> see exactly what is going on. I usually have Entourage and one or two web
> browsers going such as Safari, Explorer, or Navigator. I know that well
> behaved applications should not cause the machine to wake up which is why I
> am still inclined to suspect I have a problematic power manager. I just need
> to take the time to isolate the problem by dropping back to OS 9 and seeing
> if I can get it to sleep there, if it does, it can't be a power manager
> problem, it will have to relate to OS X. No conclusions until I see how it
> runs in OS 9.

I often have Entourage v.X and iChat up and running, with Entourage set to
check mail every 10 minutes and it doesn't prevent my Pismo from sleeping
nor does it wake it up. There must be something else with your setup...

-Laurent.
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Re: Pismo Sleep Problem

[Joe Ellis]

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Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: Pismo Sleep Problem


>
> Also running Pismo 10.2.3 and have had no sleep problems. I had minor
> problems getting the PB to sleep under earlier versions of Jaguar and OSX
> 10.1 but this rendition seems to work for the Pismo. Though, if I have a
> non-optical mouse attached it seems to not want to go to sleep the first
> time I put it to sleep and does not reliably go to sleep on its own when
> inactive. My optical mouse (small mouse for traveling) causes no such
> problems.
>
> Turtle-Bear
>
Now there's something I hadn't considered, I usually use a wireless mouse,
receiver plugged to usb port. I will also try it without the mouse.

Thanks,
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Re: Pismo Sleep Problem

[Joe Ellis]

- Original Message -
From: "Kevin Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: Pismo Sleep Problem


> On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Joe Ellis wrote:
>
> > My Pismo also appears to have a problem with sleep and after a lot of
> > playing around with it, I beginning to think it may relate to OS X. At
first
> > I suspected that my power manager board has a problem but I think now it
may
> > relate to network activity over airport. My problem is I can't get it to
go
> > to sleep at all. I haven't booted back into OS 9 to see if it's there as
> > well, maybe give it a shot tonight.
>
> My Airport-connected Pismo is put to sleep 6-10 times a day with no
> problem.  What "network activity" are you referring to?
>
> KeS
>
I usually have Entourage set to check mail every 10 minutes so I wonder if
it may be causing the wake-up; but really, I just haven't taken the time to
see exactly what is going on. I usually have Entourage and one or two web
browsers going such as Safari, Explorer, or Navigator. I know that well
behaved applications should not cause the machine to wake up which is why I
am still inclined to suspect I have a problematic power manager. I just need
to take the time to isolate the problem by dropping back to OS 9 and seeing
if I can get it to sleep there, if it does, it can't be a power manager
problem, it will have to relate to OS X. No conclusions until I see how it
runs in OS 9.

Joe Ellis


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Re: Pismo Sleep Problem

[P. Turtle-Bear Guillermo]

On 1/30/2003 9:17 AM Laurent Daudelin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

>On 30/01/03 11:11, "Joe Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Thomas Ethen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "G-Books" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:04 AM
>> Subject: Re: Pismo Sleep Problem
>> 
>> 
>>> My Pismo with Jaguar on it has a sleep problem also, when I am running
>>> PhotoShop 7 in Jaguar and put the PowerBook to sleep, when it wakes up,
>>> PhotoShop has shut down and I have to restart the program. If I put the
>> same
>>> PowerBook to sleep in 9.2 with PhotoShop 7 running, it will  wake up with
>>> the program just as I left it. Any ideas?
>>> 
>>> Tom
>>> 
>> My Pismo also appears to have a problem with sleep and after a lot of
>> playing around with it, I beginning to think it may relate to OS X. At first
>> I suspected that my power manager board has a problem but I think now it may
>> relate to network activity over airport. My problem is I can't get it to go
>> to sleep at all. I haven't booted back into OS 9 to see if it's there as
>> well, maybe give it a shot tonight.
>
>10.2.3 on my Pismo. No problem sleeping. Going to sleep when Ethernet is
>connected than waking up and switching to AirPort, and vice versa. With
>Internet-based applications (Entourage, Safari) running or not. I haven't
>tested with PhotoShop 7, though, so I can't comment. But I have absolutely
>no sleep problem in all kind of configurations. There might be a specific
>pattern of apps or settings in your case and we would have to know it in
>order to test. I'm just providing my own pattern of use here so that with
>such and such, I don't have any sleep problem.

Also running Pismo 10.2.3 and have had no sleep problems. I had minor 
problems getting the PB to sleep under earlier versions of Jaguar and OSX 
10.1 but this rendition seems to work for the Pismo. Though, if I have a 
non-optical mouse attached it seems to not want to go to sleep the first 
time I put it to sleep and does not reliably go to sleep on its own when 
inactive. My optical mouse (small mouse for traveling) causes no such 
problems.

Turtle-Bear

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Re: Pismo Sleep Problem

[Kevin Stevens]

On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Joe Ellis wrote:

> My Pismo also appears to have a problem with sleep and after a lot of
> playing around with it, I beginning to think it may relate to OS X. At first
> I suspected that my power manager board has a problem but I think now it may
> relate to network activity over airport. My problem is I can't get it to go
> to sleep at all. I haven't booted back into OS 9 to see if it's there as
> well, maybe give it a shot tonight.

My Airport-connected Pismo is put to sleep 6-10 times a day with no
problem.  What "network activity" are you referring to?

KeS

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Re: Pismo Sleep Problem

[Steve Fuller]

> What is fsck? 

Stands for File System ChecK. It's done when unix filesystems are not shut
down cleanly.

>Where is macosxhints to be found?

http://www.macosxhints.com

http://www.macosxapps.com is another good site for OSX items.

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Re: Pismo Sleep Problem

[Russell Holt]

On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:36AM -0500, Ed Zelinsky wrote:
> on 1/30/03 9:53 AM, Russell Holt at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>  The long startup is usually fsck, I think, due to the system not 
>> doing a
>>  sync at shutdown. Check macosxhints for the key sequence to press at
>>  startup to show what's happening in the boot sequence (a verbose
>>  mode).   that's all I know
>
>
>
> What is fsck? Where is macosxhints to be found?
>

fsck is file system check, a unix util that fixes file system 
inconsistencies often run at startup. The normal shutdown procedure 
involves running 'sync' which flushes file system buffers etc to disk 
and does clean up (in the terminal do 'man sync' if curious.) Not that 
it matters. Search for 'verbose' on www.macosxhints.com (or is it .org?) 
and go to the startup key sequence hint. I think it is command-v during 
boot. I suggest this just to see what is taking so long during boot... 
And hypothesized it is fsck.
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Re: Pismo Sleep Problem

[Rick Banuelos]

On Thursday, January 30, 2003, at 08:31  AM, Ed Zelinsky wrote:

> What is fsck?

File System Consistency Check (?)

Here's how to run it:

At the startup chime, hold down (Command-S) through the gray Apple 
screen until you see the Command line on a black background; then you 
can let go. Allow the single-user mode (command line) to start-- you'll 
see a prompt-- and type the following:

/sbin/fsck -y

(Yes, you do need to put that space in there)

It will go through a series of checks, and when finished, will either 
say:

***FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED***

-or-

***The volume (your HD name here) appears to be okay.***

I usually run fsck as many times as needed to get the "okay" message 
(which has never been more than twice). After you get the okay message, 
type:

reboot

And your mac will do your bidding.

_

In order to *see* this stuff while you start your computer, hold down 
(Command-V). This is known as verbose logging, and makes it easy to see 
if there is anything slowing your computer at startup time. You can't 
actually access the command line when you do this, but it can prove to 
be quite educational to watch.

>  Where is macosxhints to be found?
>

http://www.macosxhints.com/



HTH,



Rick Banuelos

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Re: Pismo Sleep Problem

[Guy Masson]

fsck = ( more or less ) disk first aid for UNIX

macosxhints = www.macosxhints.com


GM



> > The long startup is usually fsck, I think, due to the system not doing a
> > sync at shutdown. Check macosxhints for the key sequence to press at
> > startup to show what's happening in the boot sequence (a verbose
> > mode).   that's all I know
> 
> 
> 
> What is fsck? Where is macosxhints to be found?
> 
> 
> 

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Re: Pismo Sleep Problem

[Ed Zelinsky]

on 1/30/03 9:53 AM, Russell Holt at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> The long startup is usually fsck, I think, due to the system not doing a
> sync at shutdown. Check macosxhints for the key sequence to press at
> startup to show what's happening in the boot sequence (a verbose
> mode).   that's all I know



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Re: Pismo Sleep Problem

[Laurent Daudelin]

On 30/01/03 11:11, "Joe Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> - Original Message -
> From: "Thomas Ethen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "G-Books" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:04 AM
> Subject: Re: Pismo Sleep Problem
> 
> 
>> My Pismo with Jaguar on it has a sleep problem also, when I am running
>> PhotoShop 7 in Jaguar and put the PowerBook to sleep, when it wakes up,
>> PhotoShop has shut down and I have to restart the program. If I put the
> same
>> PowerBook to sleep in 9.2 with PhotoShop 7 running, it will  wake up with
>> the program just as I left it. Any ideas?
>> 
>> Tom
>> 
> My Pismo also appears to have a problem with sleep and after a lot of
> playing around with it, I beginning to think it may relate to OS X. At first
> I suspected that my power manager board has a problem but I think now it may
> relate to network activity over airport. My problem is I can't get it to go
> to sleep at all. I haven't booted back into OS 9 to see if it's there as
> well, maybe give it a shot tonight.

10.2.3 on my Pismo. No problem sleeping. Going to sleep when Ethernet is
connected than waking up and switching to AirPort, and vice versa. With
Internet-based applications (Entourage, Safari) running or not. I haven't
tested with PhotoShop 7, though, so I can't comment. But I have absolutely
no sleep problem in all kind of configurations. There might be a specific
pattern of apps or settings in your case and we would have to know it in
order to test. I'm just providing my own pattern of use here so that with
such and such, I don't have any sleep problem.

-Laurent.
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Re: Pismo Sleep Problem

[Joe Ellis]

- Original Message -
From: "Thomas Ethen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "G-Books" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: Pismo Sleep Problem


> My Pismo with Jaguar on it has a sleep problem also, when I am running
> PhotoShop 7 in Jaguar and put the PowerBook to sleep, when it wakes up,
> PhotoShop has shut down and I have to restart the program. If I put the
same
> PowerBook to sleep in 9.2 with PhotoShop 7 running, it will  wake up with
> the program just as I left it. Any ideas?
>
> Tom
>
My Pismo also appears to have a problem with sleep and after a lot of
playing around with it, I beginning to think it may relate to OS X. At first
I suspected that my power manager board has a problem but I think now it may
relate to network activity over airport. My problem is I can't get it to go
to sleep at all. I haven't booted back into OS 9 to see if it's there as
well, maybe give it a shot tonight.

Joe Ellis


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Re: Pismo Sleep Problem

[Thomas Ethen]

My Pismo with Jaguar on it has a sleep problem also, when I am running
PhotoShop 7 in Jaguar and put the PowerBook to sleep, when it wakes up,
PhotoShop has shut down and I have to restart the program. If I put the same
PowerBook to sleep in 9.2 with PhotoShop 7 running, it will  wake up with
the program just as I left it. Any ideas?

Tom


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Re: Pismo Sleep Problem

[Russell Holt]

The long startup is usually fsck, I think, due to the system not doing a 
sync at shutdown. Check macosxhints for the key sequence to press at 
startup to show what's happening in the boot sequence (a verbose 
mode).   that's all I know

On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 9:45AM -0500, Keith Potter wrote:
> My Pismo has started having trouble in recent weeks.  It sometimes
> shuts down instead of going to sleep when I close the lid.  When this
> happens, and I restart, it takes a looong time for the grey logo
> screen to give way to the "Welcome to OSX" screen.  Has anyone had
> similar experiences?  Does anyone know a fix?  I am running 10.2.3 
> with
> all the updates.
>
> Thanks in advance...
>
> --Keith Potter
>

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Pismo Sleep Problem

[Keith Potter]

My Pismo has started having trouble in recent weeks.  It sometimes 
shuts down instead of going to sleep when I close the lid.  When this 
happens, and I restart, it takes a looong time for the grey logo 
screen to give way to the "Welcome to OSX" screen.  Has anyone had 
similar experiences?  Does anyone know a fix?  I am running 10.2.3 with 
all the updates.

Thanks in advance...

--Keith Potter


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