Re: Another Opinion wanted

2005-05-27 Thread Nick Marshall
On Thu, 26 May 2005, Tom Peterson wrote:

 If you hold down the option key and select the color prefs does it give you
 the option for millions at 800?

 No dice! In x 10.3.9 with patched rage pro drivers the only options are
 thousands or 256 at1024x780.


What about at 800x600?  Don't you get a millions option?

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Re: Another Opinion wanted

2005-05-27 Thread Tom Peterson

There is no 800x600 option for the LCD monitor. I have not tried to pretend
it has a crt monitor. There are several different color profiles which
disappear when the check box specifying show for only this monitor is
selected.

What about at 800x600?  Don't you get a millions option?

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Re: Another Opinion wanted

2005-05-26 Thread Nick Marshall
On Wed, 25 May 2005, Tom Peterson wrote:
 
 1024x780thousands. I don't have the option in display prefs for
 millions at 800x600.


Really?  2MB of vram should give you millions at 800x600.  I use to run my
7300 at 1024 at thousands 99% of the time and when I needed to edit some pics
I would switch to 800 at millions.  Then I got the 2MB vram upgrade and then
I was 1024 the whole time at millions.

If you hold down the option key and select the color prefs does it give you
the option for millions at 800?

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Re: Another Opinion wanted

2005-05-26 Thread Tom Peterson


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Subject: Re: Another Opinion wanted

On Wed, 25 May 2005, Tom Peterson wrote:
 
 1024x780thousands. I don't have the option in display prefs for
 millions at 800x600.


Really?  2MB of vram should give you millions at 800x600.  I use to run my
7300 at 1024 at thousands 99% of the time and when I needed to edit some
pics
I would switch to 800 at millions.  Then I got the 2MB vram upgrade and then
I was 1024 the whole time at millions.

If you hold down the option key and select the color prefs does it give you
the option for millions at 800?

No dice! In x 10.3.9 with patched rage pro drivers the only options are
thousands or 256 at1024x780.


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Re: Another Opinion wanted

2005-05-25 Thread Tom and Lisa P



Exactly.  That's what I was trying to get across by comparing my Ti to my
friends Pismo.  'Elegantly' is a much nicer way to put it. :)  The good thing
is Tom and Lisa now know there is a third option.  500MHz G4.

What are you running the display at?  800x600 millions or 1024x768 thousands.

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Me ?  I  run at 1024x768 in thousands.  The G4/500 has kind of a high 
price premium .


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Re: Another Opinion wanted

2005-05-25 Thread Tom Peterson

Nick Marshall wrote:


On Tue, 24 May 2005, Tom Peterson wrote:

 


Nick Marshall wrote:

   


On Mon, 23 May 2005, Tom and Lisa P wrote:



 


What would be better for running OS X on a Wallstreet (yes, I know a
WS isnt an optimal solution); a G3/500 or a G4/400 ?


   


Unless the apps you are going to use have been optimized by Altivec, iTunes
for instance, go with the G3.  The extra 100Mhz will make more of a
difference in most operations.  Plus it runs cooler.



 


I have the wallstreet that has 2 megs vram. It now has L2 1 meg cache
via G4 500 mhz Blue Chip accellerator. It does most everything that the
daughters 700mhz G3 Ibook does. maybe not as elegantly. :)
   



Exactly.  That's what I was trying to get across by comparing my Ti to my
friends Pismo.  'Elegantly' is a much nicer way to put it. :)  The good thing
is Tom and Lisa now know there is a third option.  500MHz G4.

What are you running the display at?  800x600 millions or 1024x768 thousands.

 

1024x780thousands. I don't have the option in display prefs for 
millions at 800x600.


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Re: Another Opinion wanted

2005-05-24 Thread Tom and Lisa P

on 23/05/05 22:28, Tom and Lisa P at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 on 23/05/05 22:05, Tom and Lisa P at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  What would be better for running OS X on a Wallstreet (yes, I know a
  WS isnt an optimal solution); a G3/500 or a G4/400 ?

  thanks,


 Probably the G3/500. What is the speed of the backside cache?

 -Laurent.


 Both would have 250 Mhz cache parts.  I am not sure what ratios you
 can select, so its likely the G4/400 would run at 200 Mhz.  If I
 could get a 3:5 ratio, I could run at 240 Mhz.

 thanks,

 Mad Dog


Have you checked XLR8YourMac.com for readers' reports about accelerator?

-Laurent.


Ive seen the ratings, but they dont seem to talk about the difference 
between the two for running X.


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Re: Another Opinion wanted

2005-05-24 Thread Nick Marshall
On Tue, 24 May 2005, Tom and Lisa P wrote:

 on 23/05/05 22:28, Tom and Lisa P at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   on 23/05/05 22:05, Tom and Lisa P at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
What would be better for running OS X on a Wallstreet (yes, I know a
WS isnt an optimal solution); a G3/500 or a G4/400 ?
 
thanks,
 
   Probably the G3/500. What is the speed of the backside cache?
 
   -Laurent.
 
   Both would have 250 Mhz cache parts.  I am not sure what ratios you
   can select, so its likely the G4/400 would run at 200 Mhz.  If I
   could get a 3:5 ratio, I could run at 240 Mhz.
 
   thanks,
 
   Mad Dog
 
 Have you checked XLR8YourMac.com for readers' reports about accelerator?
 
 -Laurent.

 Ive seen the ratings, but they dont seem to talk about the difference
 between the two for running X.


There is a 500MHz G4 available from Sonnet.  That way you would get a G4 and
500MHz at the same time.  Kinda pricey though.  $350 at OWC.

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Re: Another Opinion wanted

2005-05-24 Thread Tom Peterson

Nick Marshall wrote:


On Mon, 23 May 2005, Tom and Lisa P wrote:

 


What would be better for running OS X on a Wallstreet (yes, I know a
WS isnt an optimal solution); a G3/500 or a G4/400 ?
   




Unless the apps you are going to use have been optimized by Altivec, iTunes
for instance, go with the G3.  The extra 100Mhz will make more of a
difference in most operations.  Plus it runs cooler.

 

I have the wallstreet that has 2 megs vram. It now has L2 1 meg cache 
via G4 500 mhz Blue Chip accellerator. It does most everything that the 
daughters 700mhz G3 Ibook does. maybe not as eleganly. :)



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Re: Another Opinion wanted

2005-05-24 Thread Nick Marshall
On Tue, 24 May 2005, Tom Peterson wrote:

 Nick Marshall wrote:

 On Mon, 23 May 2005, Tom and Lisa P wrote:
 
 
 
 What would be better for running OS X on a Wallstreet (yes, I know a
 WS isnt an optimal solution); a G3/500 or a G4/400 ?
 
 
 
 
 Unless the apps you are going to use have been optimized by Altivec, iTunes
 for instance, go with the G3.  The extra 100Mhz will make more of a
 difference in most operations.  Plus it runs cooler.
 
 
 
 I have the wallstreet that has 2 megs vram. It now has L2 1 meg cache
 via G4 500 mhz Blue Chip accellerator. It does most everything that the
 daughters 700mhz G3 Ibook does. maybe not as eleganly. :)

Exactly.  That's what I was trying to get across by comparing my Ti to my
friends Pismo.  'Elegantly' is a much nicer way to put it. :)  The good thing
is Tom and Lisa now know there is a third option.  500MHz G4.

What are you running the display at?  800x600 millions or 1024x768 thousands.

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Re: Another Opinion wanted

2005-05-23 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 23/05/05 22:05, Tom and Lisa P at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What would be better for running OS X on a Wallstreet (yes, I know a
 WS isnt an optimal solution); a G3/500 or a G4/400 ?
 
 thanks,

Probably the G3/500. What is the speed of the backside cache?

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Re: Another Opinion wanted

2005-05-23 Thread Tom and Lisa P

on 23/05/05 22:05, Tom and Lisa P at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 What would be better for running OS X on a Wallstreet (yes, I know a
 WS isnt an optimal solution); a G3/500 or a G4/400 ?

 thanks,


Probably the G3/500. What is the speed of the backside cache?

-Laurent.


Both would have 250 Mhz cache parts.  I am not sure what ratios you 
can select, so its likely the G4/400 would run at 200 Mhz.  If I 
could get a 3:5 ratio, I could run at 240 Mhz.


thanks,

Mad Dog

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Re: Another Opinion wanted

2005-05-23 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 23/05/05 22:28, Tom and Lisa P at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 on 23/05/05 22:05, Tom and Lisa P at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  What would be better for running OS X on a Wallstreet (yes, I know a
  WS isnt an optimal solution); a G3/500 or a G4/400 ?
 
  thanks,
 
 Probably the G3/500. What is the speed of the backside cache?
 
 -Laurent.
 
 Both would have 250 Mhz cache parts.  I am not sure what ratios you
 can select, so its likely the G4/400 would run at 200 Mhz.  If I
 could get a 3:5 ratio, I could run at 240 Mhz.
 
 thanks,
 
 Mad Dog

Have you checked XLR8YourMac.com for readers' reports about accelerator?

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Re: Another Opinion wanted

2005-05-23 Thread themacuser
Someone will probably disagree with me but I say go for the G3 if you 
want to use Jaguar or the G4 if you want to use Panther. Panther is 
more G4 optimised...


If you want to use Photoshop or apps like that, go for the G4..
On 24/05/2005, at 13:19, Nick Marshall wrote:


On Mon, 23 May 2005, Tom and Lisa P wrote:



What would be better for running OS X on a Wallstreet (yes, I know a
WS isnt an optimal solution); a G3/500 or a G4/400 ?



Unless the apps you are going to use have been optimized by Altivec, 
iTunes

for instance, go with the G3.  The extra 100Mhz will make more of a
difference in most operations.  Plus it runs cooler.

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