Re: Pismo ram and Tiger question

2005-11-07 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Nov 4, 2005, at 9:07 PM, kaldav wrote:


Hello,
I have just installed a larger memory module into my Pismo running  
10.4.2. It had two 128 mb modules = 256 mb ram total.
Therefore, I put in one 256 mb from my ibook G3 300 mhz, leaving  
the other 128 mb in place = total 384 mb.


With the 256 mb only, it ran Tiger. However, once I put the other  
256 mb in, it starts up fine, lets me log in and then the cursor  
freezes. I wondered it if was bad ram, but then why does it boot  
up? Does anyone have any other suggestions?

Thanks.


Because that's how far it gets before it freezes..it won't mess up  
until it actually accesses the ram.:-) Double check all connections,  
and reseat the RAM and CPU. These are the usual causes of such  
problems. if it persists, then the the system isn't happy with the Ram.


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Re: Pismo RAM

2004-11-29 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Nov 29, 2004, at 2:48 PM, Dante McLean wrote:
Hello:
Need RAM for the Pismo.  According to my manual, I am looking for 
low-profile un-buffered PC100 3.3 Volt 144pin SODIMM.  The question 
is, Parity or Non-Parity, or does it matter?  It specifies 
un-buffered, which I take to mean Non-parity--is this correct?
yoda Screw around, you should not! To Data Memory Systems go you 
should!/yoda http://www.datamem.com/viewcat.asp?C=1101

Good prices, good service, good memory.
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Re: Pismo ram fit in 500mhz iBook?

2003-03-03 Thread Joe Ellis

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Subject: Pismo ram fit in 500mhz iBook?


 Will the ram from my Pismo fit in a friends 500mhz ibook? I think the ram
is
 high profile so that could be a problem. I just need to fit it in for a
 minute as I need to test if the ram is faulty. The ram is showing up as
256
 on my computer and I get the dialog in os9 boot: Built in memory test
 failed. Contact service technician.

 It is a 512mb (PC100? 2-2-2) Chip. I have latest firmware (4.1.8f5) The
ram
 worked fine for 2 years, until last week when I used my s-video port for
the
 first time. It has lifetime warrantee, but I don't want to send it in
unless
 it is really the ram!

 Thanks all,
 Ryan
I don't know if the RAM will fit your friends machine or not but your
description of symptoms would lead me to believe the card is defective. You
could confirm it with your hardware test CD if you have one. Do you have
another card as well in your Pismo or just the one? If you have a second
card you could also try swapping them and see what symptoms you get.

Joe Ellis


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Re: Pismo ram fit in 500mhz iBook?

2003-03-03 Thread Ryan Stewart
 Will the ram from my Pismo fit in a friends 500mhz ibook? I think the ram

 I don't know if the RAM will fit your friends machine or not but your
 description of symptoms would lead me to believe the card is defective. You
 could confirm it with your hardware test CD if you have one. Do you have
 another card as well in your Pismo or just the one? If you have a second
 card you could also try swapping them and see what symptoms you get.
 
 Joe Ellis
 

Yes I also have a 128 chip that came with the machine. Funny, I tried the
test cd once and no probs were found. However, I reseat the bad ram, zap the
pram and nv-ram and the computer will recognize the 512 chip ok for a few
hours, then I get a VERY hard freeze, (needing the reset button on the back
of the pismo) I restart, and the 512 magically becomes 256 again.

I have had so many problems with my wonderful machine, that I hope I need a
motherboard replacement. Just think how bad it would be if this Pismo didn't
just sit on a table its whole life!
ryan


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Re: Pismo ram fit in 500mhz iBook?

2003-03-03 Thread Joe Ellis
On 3/3/03 5:15 PM, Ryan Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Will the ram from my Pismo fit in a friends 500mhz ibook? I think the ram
 
 I don't know if the RAM will fit your friends machine or not but your
 description of symptoms would lead me to believe the card is defective. You
 could confirm it with your hardware test CD if you have one. Do you have
 another card as well in your Pismo or just the one? If you have a second
 card you could also try swapping them and see what symptoms you get.
 
 Joe Ellis
 
 
 Yes I also have a 128 chip that came with the machine. Funny, I tried the
 test cd once and no probs were found. However, I reseat the bad ram, zap the
 pram and nv-ram and the computer will recognize the 512 chip ok for a few
 hours, then I get a VERY hard freeze, (needing the reset button on the back
 of the pismo) I restart, and the 512 magically becomes 256 again.
 
 I have had so many problems with my wonderful machine, that I hope I need a
 motherboard replacement. Just think how bad it would be if this Pismo didn't
 just sit on a table its whole life!
 ryan
 
Well it definitely has all the symptoms of bad RAM; I would hope it's under
warranty and you can get a replacement. If you bought cheap and didn't get
one; I would kindly suggest you get a replacement from someplace like
Crucial.com, may save you $ and time in the long run.

Joe Ellis


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Re: Pismo Ram

2003-01-22 Thread Brian L. Matthews
According to Apple syst. profiler: SoDimm 0/J2 SDRAM  64mb
  SoDimm 1/J2 SDRAM  256mb
Which one is in the upper slot? 64mb module?

I'm pretty sure SODIMM0/J2 is the bottom slot. When I added my 512MB 
module I put it in the bottom slot and Apple System Profiler shows 
SODIMM0/J2 as 512MB. So I'd guess your 64MB modules is in under the 
processor card.

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Re: Pismo Ram

2003-01-22 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 22/01/03 11:59, Brian L. Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 According to Apple syst. profiler: SoDimm 0/J2 SDRAM  64mb
  SoDimm 1/J2 SDRAM  256mb
 Which one is in the upper slot? 64mb module?
 
 I'm pretty sure SODIMM0/J2 is the bottom slot. When I added my 512MB
 module I put it in the bottom slot and Apple System Profiler shows
 SODIMM0/J2 as 512MB. So I'd guess your 64MB modules is in under the
 processor card.

Which would make sense, since when the Pismo was updated, only the top slot
was replaced.

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Re: Pismo RAM recommendations

2002-12-03 Thread Shayne Croy

On Monday, December 2, 2002, at 08:45  PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 I want to put 2x 512MB RAM modules  in my Pismo.Can anyone recommend a 
 good online memory retailer that's good in price and aftersales 
 service?

  My mother-in-law sent me to transintl for 2 256mb modules for my 
 lombard, as she had used them for 2 512's for her pismo. I live in 
 Alaska, and their shipping was lightning fast! Also, they have 
 downloadable-printable full color install instructions that were a 
 godsend. Don't know about aftersales, because so far their stuff is 
 problem free... HTH

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Re: Pismo RAM recommendations

2002-12-03 Thread David M. Ensteness
OWComputing has so so after sales service but good prices and quality  
products.

The lower DIMM [under the processor card] needs to be low profile, the  
other can be a full size DIMM.

David


On Tuesday, December 3, 2002, at 12:45  AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
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 Hi all,
 I want to get 2x 512MB RAM modules to replace my 1x64  1x128MB  
 modules in
 my Pismo.
 I've never taken the Pismo RAM out before, and was wondering if both
 modules are of the same size?

 Also, I plan to buy it online from a US site (I currently reside in
 Singapore). I've bought memory from the ChipMerchant before ( a few  
 years
 ago for my PB1400) and they had excellent service then. Can anyone
 recommend a good online memory retailer that's good in price and  
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Re: Pismo RAM recommendations

2002-12-03 Thread Thomas Ethen
That is not the case with a Pismo, as both chips can be full size, although
you can still use the higher priced low profile chip if you wish.

Tom
 
 The lower DIMM [under the processor card] needs to be low profile, the
 other can be a full size DIMM.


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Re: Pismo RAM recommendations

2002-12-03 Thread David M. Ensteness
Uhm, sorry but a full size DIMM did not physically fit under my 
processor card ... it was too wide. Glad a bought low profile 256MB 
when it was like $30 months ago ...

David

On Tuesday, December 3, 2002, at 09:40  AM, Thomas Ethen wrote:

 That is not the case with a Pismo, as both chips can be full size, 
 although
 you can still use the higher priced low profile chip if you wish.

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Re: Pismo RAM recommendations

2002-12-03 Thread Thomas Ethen
Then you must has some strange RAM, because the full size chips I have fit
perfectly in both the upper and lower slots in my Pismo and the Apple
Service Manual does not specify low profile RAM in the lower slot either. I
have put two 512 chips in three Pismos so far and have never purchased the
low profile chips, even though they were available from the vendor and all
or them fit perfectly.

Tom

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 Uhm, sorry but a full size DIMM did not physically fit under my
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Re: Pismo RAM recommendations

2002-12-03 Thread Andrew Main
Mark_PHILIP wrote:

Hi all,
I want to get 2x 512MB RAM modules to replace my 1x64  1x128MB modules in
my Pismo.
I've never taken the Pismo RAM out before, and was wondering if both
modules are of the same size?

Also, I plan to buy it online from a US site (I currently reside in
Singapore). I've bought memory from the ChipMerchant before ( a few years
ago for my PB1400) and they had excellent service then. Can anyone
recommend a good online memory retailer that's good in price and aftersales
service?

The top slot is easy, of course, but the lower is a bit of a hassle 
because you have to pull the CPU card, which is connected to the heat 
sink, which is connected to the... Anyway it's a bit awkward. Handle 
with care so you don't bend the heat sink tube arm.

I've been buying from DMS (http://www.datamem.com/apple.asp) for 
years, with excellent results. Last week I had my first bad RAM from 
them, and they shipped a replacement overnight, with a prepaid return 
for the bad one. Dunno how this would work for an overseas sale, but 
in general I'd recommend them.

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Re: Pismo Ram

2002-12-03 Thread Stuart Saunders
Ditto. And a hard drive. Xcept not seen mother in law for about twenty 
years! ;-)  Or her daughter!!   ;-))


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  My mother-in-law sent me to transintl for 2 256mb modules for my
 lombard, as she had used them for 2 512's for her pismo. I live in
 Alaska, and their shipping was lightning fast! Also, they have
 downloadable-printable full color install instructions that were a
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Re: Pismo RAM recommendations

2002-12-03 Thread Hal
I've got full size 512 in my lower slot as well. Adding memory to the 
top slot is trivial, the lower slot is a little more compliated, but 
not tough.


I'm a big fan of OWC as well. I've only had 1 problem with them in over 
20 orders, and that was a glitch in their ordering system that sent the 
package to the wrong address. They had it reshipped to me within 3 
days. Great prices on good products.

-Hal


On Tuesday, December 3, 2002, at 08:43 AM, Quan Vi wrote:

 ...Then you must has some strange RAM, because the full size chips I 
 have fit
 perfectly in both the upper and lower slots in my Pismo and the Apple
 Service Manual does not specify low profile RAM in the lower slot 
 either. I
 have put two 512 chips in three Pismos so far and have never purchased 
 the
 low profile chips, even though they were available from the vendor and 
 all
 or them fit perfectly.

 Tom

 on 12/3/02 8:46, David M. Ensteness at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Uhm, sorry but a full size DIMM did not physically fit under my
 processor card ... it was too wide. Glad a bought low profile 256MB
 when it was like $30 months ago ...


 Tom is absolute correct, I also used just full size chip (512MB) on 
 both
 upper and lower slot on my pismo.


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Re: Pismo RAM recommendations

2002-12-03 Thread Ian Haddock
powerbook1.com

Great place with top quality components. Real people to talk to  and 
super fast service.  You wont be unhappy.


On Tuesday, December 3, 2002, at 11:03 AM, Hal wrote:

 I've got full size 512 in my lower slot as well. Adding memory to the
 top slot is trivial, the lower slot is a little more compliated, but
 not tough.


 I'm a big fan of OWC as well. I've only had 1 problem with them in over
 20 orders, and that was a glitch in their ordering system that sent the
 package to the wrong address. They had it reshipped to me within 3
 days. Great prices on good products.

 -Hal


 On Tuesday, December 3, 2002, at 08:43 AM, Quan Vi wrote:

 ...Then you must has some strange RAM, because the full size chips I
 have fit
 perfectly in both the upper and lower slots in my Pismo and the Apple
 Service Manual does not specify low profile RAM in the lower slot
 either. I
 have put two 512 chips in three Pismos so far and have never purchased
 the
 low profile chips, even though they were available from the vendor and
 all
 or them fit perfectly.

 Tom

 on 12/3/02 8:46, David M. Ensteness at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Uhm, sorry but a full size DIMM did not physically fit under my
 processor card ... it was too wide. Glad a bought low profile 256MB
 when it was like $30 months ago ...


 Tom is absolute correct, I also used just full size chip (512MB) on
 both
 upper and lower slot on my pismo.


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Re: Pismo RAM recommendations

2002-12-03 Thread Ian Haddock
Interesting to see the same type of problem with OWC. Good sales 
service, but if they send you a bad item... they drag their feet 
forever, which angers me like nothing else.

I spent 4 months sending and receiving the same 512Mb piece of RAM for 
my pismo which had a _documented_ thermal problem (which took $90 of my 
money to test by an independent) They claimed each time to have tested 
the card and found no problems. Once I requested info on the test 
procedures I found out the tests did not contain thermal tests.

The just slapped it on a test board and sent it back. i.e. They never 
even read my detailed emails sent with the RAM.

This finally ended when sent a rather angry email to as many email 
address as I could find demanding a solution to this ongoing problem. 
They finally replaced the RAM and everything has been working perfectly.

So in the end it cost me $100 more than sticker and tons of my time.

I won't be recommending OWC to anyone I know.
Ian


On Monday, December 2, 2002, at 11:26 PM, Doug Behr wrote:

 For What it's worth, I have had mixed results with
 Other World COmputing.

 I have 1 GB in my Pismo that I got from them and have
 was happy with the service and the RAM.

 After that, I ordered a HD from them and it took over
 four months to get a replacement after they initially
 sent a dead unit.

 A plus one and a minus one leaving me leaning
 toward negative.  After my last experience, I vowed
 not to buy from them again, and have all taken my
 hardware and software biz elsewhere.

 I bought some desktop RAM from Crucial about 4 years
 ago and was very happy with that
 transaction...although I'd guess that their RAM is
 more expensive than OWC.

 Good Luck.

 DB.
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 Computing.  They give
 a lifetime warranty on their memory.  I've found
 them to ship quickly,
 and be very easy to work with.

 Putting the memory in is a bit complicated.  But it
 can be done fairly
 quickly.

 Erick
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 Hi all,
 I want to get 2x 512MB RAM modules to replace my
 1x64  1x128MB
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 my Pismo.

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Re: Pismo RAM recommendations

2002-12-02 Thread RogueWriter
On service alone, I highly recommend Other World Computing.  They give 
a lifetime warranty on their memory.  I've found them to ship quickly, 
and be very easy to work with.

Putting the memory in is a bit complicated.  But it can be done fairly 
quickly.

Erick
On Tuesday, December 3, 2002, at 12:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Hi all,
 I want to get 2x 512MB RAM modules to replace my 1x64  1x128MB 
 modules in
 my Pismo.
 I've never taken the Pismo RAM out before, and was wondering if both
 modules are of the same size?

 Also, I plan to buy it online from a US site (I currently reside in
 Singapore). I've bought memory from the ChipMerchant before ( a few 
 years
 ago for my PB1400) and they had excellent service then. Can anyone
 recommend a good online memory retailer that's good in price and 
 aftersales
 service?

 Many thanks,
 Mark.


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Re: Pismo RAM recommendations

2002-12-02 Thread Doug Behr
For What it's worth, I have had mixed results with
Other World COmputing.

I have 1 GB in my Pismo that I got from them and have
was happy with the service and the RAM.  

After that, I ordered a HD from them and it took over
four months to get a replacement after they initially
sent a dead unit.

A plus one and a minus one leaving me leaning
toward negative.  After my last experience, I vowed
not to buy from them again, and have all taken my
hardware and software biz elsewhere.

I bought some desktop RAM from Crucial about 4 years
ago and was very happy with that
transaction...although I'd guess that their RAM is
more expensive than OWC.

Good Luck.

DB.
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 On service alone, I highly recommend Other World
 Computing.  They give 
 a lifetime warranty on their memory.  I've found
 them to ship quickly, 
 and be very easy to work with.
 
 Putting the memory in is a bit complicated.  But it
 can be done fairly 
 quickly.
 
 Erick
 On Tuesday, December 3, 2002, at 12:45 AM,
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  Hi all,
  I want to get 2x 512MB RAM modules to replace my
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  modules in
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Re: Pismo RAM and help with a decision...

2002-05-30 Thread Raymond Wiker

Thomas Peri writes:
  Crucial Technology (www.crucial.com) is pretty good.  Right now, you can 
  get a 512MB module for a Pismo for $186.69 with free shipping.  As for 
  quality, I used to run a lab of 30 G3s at a university, all of which I 
  upgraded with RAM from Crucial, and we never had any problems with it in 
  the year that I continued to work there.

Other World Computing (http://www.macsales.com) has a 512MB
module at $108. This is a full-sized module, though. They also have
low-profile memory that fits both memory slots (I'm not sure whether
this is a possible problem with the Pismo.)

I ordered a 512MB unit for my iBook last friday, and it was
delivered this Tuesday morning at work, in a small town in
Norway. This is _good_ :-)

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Re: Pismo RAM and help with a decision...

2002-05-30 Thread Tim Hodgson

Raymond Wiker wrote:

Other World Computing (http://www.macsales.com) has a 512MB
module at $108. This is a full-sized module, though. They also have
low-profile memory that fits both memory slots (I'm not sure whether
this is a possible problem with the Pismo.)

No, the pismo can take full-size modules in both slots, which saves you
quite a lot of money :-)

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Re: Pismo RAM and help with a decision...

2002-05-29 Thread Laurent Daudelin

on 29/05/02 21:35, Thomas Peri at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Crucial Technology (www.crucial.com) is pretty good.  Right now, you can
 get a 512MB module for a Pismo for $186.69 with free shipping.

Boy! Is it me, or has the price of memory went up? $186 for 512 MB? I
thought it used to be barely above $100 not very long ago, or am I wrong?

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Re: Pismo RAM and help with a decision...

2002-05-29 Thread markemmanuel

Yep, memory went up since November 2001.  Maybe I'll just sit tight and 
not buy anything until the end of the summer.  Maybe, just maybe, prices 
will be lower.


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 Boy! Is it me, or has the price of memory went up? $186 for 512 MB? I
 thought it used to be barely above $100 not very long ago, or am I 
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