Re: USB sharing

2002-07-24 Thread Walter R Basil


On Tuesday, July 23, 2002, at 10:09  PM, (G-Books) wrote:

 Sorry to make you do it, but TBMK OS X doesn't support the printer
 sharing like *nix does (yet) maybe with Jaguar it will.


I kind of doubt that, although I would *love* to be wrong. I think his 
Jobsness would have mentioned it, as it is one of the most requested 
features, as spring loaded folders were. Anything to make Apple look 
better after dropping that bomb on us.

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Re: USB sharing

2002-07-24 Thread Ryan Coleman

On Tuesday, July 23, 2002, at 10:09  PM, (G-Books) wrote:

  Sorry to make you do it, but TBMK OS X doesn't support the printer
  sharing like *nix does (yet) maybe with Jaguar it will.


I kind of doubt that, although I would *love* to be wrong. I think his
Jobsness would have mentioned it, as it is one of the most requested
features, as spring loaded folders were. Anything to make Apple look
better after dropping that bomb on us.

I would like to see that in Jaguar, too.

Anyway, where did they come up with such a name? Must be the build 
name of the new build of BSD they are adding... or that was something 
like Cheetah and they couldn't quite market it.
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Re: USB sharing

2002-07-24 Thread Andrew Chong

We have a shared multi-printer HP OfficeJet [it's the cousin nobody 
speaks about], which is shared between 3 machines using a USB switch 
from Belkin. The only drawback - it's manual. You have to push a 
button to switch machines. An inellegant solution but it works.

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Re: USB sharing

2002-07-24 Thread Andrew Chong

Missed that!

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Re: USB sharing

2002-07-24 Thread Ryan Coleman

Um, why not share on the Tower?

   By PSX I will assume OSX.
yep
  I was saying it doesn't work in X, only under 9.x

  Control Panel there.

Argggh misread the e-mail.

Guess it's off to the store for a USB switch...

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Re: USB sharing

2002-07-24 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Wednesday, July 24, 2002, at 01:25 PM, Ryan Coleman wrote:

 Um, why not share on the Tower?

All right we've either got a major cross-communication here or we
re talking about different threads ;-)

That's what I was *trying* to do.

Have:G4 Tower, OS 9.1
TiBook OSX 10.1.5

Turned USB printer sharing on on the tower, went to TiBook, couldn't 
find the printer. I can see and mount the shared drive on the tower from 
the TiBook, so there's not a problem seeing shared resources, just the 
shared USB printer. I tried Go To Server and Print Center and couldn't 
find the printer anywhere.

I believe (since I've never gotten it running to see) you need to run 
the USB printer sharing control panel to see shared USB printers to use, 
since there's a network pane in there.

That said, we found a $25 USB switch which they're going to get which 
should solve the problem forthwith.

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Re: USB sharing

2002-07-23 Thread Ryan Coleman

Gotta wild idea here...

I have two machines (TiBook running OSX, GW G4 running 9.1) and one
Epson USB printer.

Plug the Epson into the G4, run USB Printer Sharing (an extension and 
CP) and use AT/TCP to get it on the TiBook.
USB Printer Sharing is not supported (last I checked) under X.
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Re: USB sharing

2002-07-23 Thread Bruce Johnson

Ryan Coleman wrote:
Gotta wild idea here...

I have two machines (TiBook running OSX, GW G4 running 9.1) and one
Epson USB printer.
 
 
 Plug the Epson into the G4, run USB Printer Sharing (an extension and 
 CP) and use AT/TCP to get it on the TiBook.
 USB Printer Sharing is not supported (last I checked) under X.

Ok...now for the delicate task of 'taking' a printer from one person and 
'giving' it to another. Fun fun fun...

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Re: USB sharing

2002-07-23 Thread Ryan Coleman

Ryan Coleman wrote:
Gotta wild idea here...

I have two machines (TiBook running OSX, GW G4 running 9.1) and one
Epson USB printer.


  Plug the Epson into the G4, run USB Printer Sharing (an extension and
  CP) and use AT/TCP to get it on the TiBook.
  USB Printer Sharing is not supported (last I checked) under X.

Ok...now for the delicate task of 'taking' a printer from one person and
'giving' it to another. Fun fun fun...

Sorry to make you do it, but TBMK OS X doesn't support the printer 
sharing like *nix does (yet) maybe with Jaguar it will.
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Re: USB sharing

2002-07-23 Thread Eugene Lee

On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 01:31:43PM -0500, Ryan Coleman wrote:
: 
: I have two machines (TiBook running OSX, GW G4 running 9.1) and one
: Epson USB printer.
: 
: Plug the Epson into the G4, run USB Printer Sharing (an extension and 
: CP) and use AT/TCP to get it on the TiBook.
: USB Printer Sharing is not supported (last I checked) under X.

USB printer sharing is back in Jaguar.  Huzzah!


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Re: USB sharing

2002-07-23 Thread vlad

oh, okthanks

On Tuesday, July 23, 2002, at 07:43 , Ryan Coleman wrote:

 can TiBook and G4 be connected only by a . how do you call that
 cable that doesn't need a hub.cable for this to work?

 Crossover cable... technically yes. if the TCP/IP is set up correctly.
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Re: USB sharing

2002-07-23 Thread vlad

what if bruce's clients don't have airport cards? and, as he said, they 
pay per ethernet port? any  solutions there?

On Tuesday, July 23, 2002, at 08:06 , Ryan Coleman wrote:

 how will you do it then?

 My guess: Airport.
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Re: USB sharing

2002-07-23 Thread Ryan Coleman

what if bruce's clients don't have airport cards? and, as he said, they
pay per ethernet port? any  solutions there?

I think $200 is a reasonable solution... you can get them for a total 
of below $100 on ebay... that's the route I would go.
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Re: USB sharing

2002-07-23 Thread vlad

per card i presumehelpful, thanks

vlad

On Tuesday, July 23, 2002, at 08:16 , Ryan Coleman wrote:

 what if bruce's clients don't have airport cards? and, as he said, they
 pay per ethernet port? any  solutions there?

 I think $200 is a reasonable solution... you can get them for a total
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Re: USB sharing

2002-07-23 Thread Ryan Coleman

No, that's for the two. They are $100/card right now new, aren't they?

per card i presumehelpful, thanks

vlad

On Tuesday, July 23, 2002, at 08:16 , Ryan Coleman wrote:

  what if bruce's clients don't have airport cards? and, as he said, they
  pay per ethernet port? any  solutions there?

  I think $200 is a reasonable solution... you can get them for a total
   of below $100 on ebay... that's the route I would go.


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Re: USB sharing

2002-07-23 Thread Ryan Coleman

Ryan Coleman wrote:
how will you do it then?


  My guess: Airport.

Well, since they're on a tcp/ip network, according to Ryan, I should be
able to connect via Appletalk to the OS9 machine and see the printer,
that's what I thought you said...

Yes, that is what I said
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Re: USB sharing

2002-07-23 Thread Bruce Johnson

Ryan Coleman wrote:
what if bruce's clients don't have airport cards? and, as he said, they
pay per ethernet port? any  solutions there?
 
 
 I think $200 is a reasonable solution... you can get them for a total 
 of below $100 on ebay... that's the route I would go.

And you can get in considerable trouble with the network admins in their 
building by running unsanctioned networks.

Network managers dealing with hospital record and patient data security 
have been known to become downright mean when they find giant gaping 
security holes like WAP's on their nets...

(heck, you can get in considerable trouble in *my* building running 
unsanctioned networks or servers...we just shut down 2 different warez 
servers. The owners didn't think we could see them, because they'd 
half-cleverly messed about with permissions on their systems.)

Only half-cleverly, to their great despair (and permanent reprimands in 
their files, and risking their graduate degree in one case...really 
sucks to get kicked out of grad school because you wanted to play at 
warez...)

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Re: USB sharing

2002-07-23 Thread Jeff Lentz

There are two options for USB sharing of an Epson
printer.  There's the poor utility that Epson has, and
there's Apple's USB Printer Sharing.  Apple's was the
lesser of two evils for me, but it worked so poorly
that I ended up springing for an Epson C80N so I could
hang it on the network as a standalone.

Apple's USB printer sharing worked on my Appletalk
network using DHCP server for IP address assignments,
but it would often lose the remote address of the
printer and I'd have to go back to the host computer,
regenerate the shortcut, then copy it to the remote
machine in order to get it to work.  Very frustrating.
 I think if you never turn off either machine, it will
minimize your problems.

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 how will you do it then?
  
  
  My guess: Airport.
 
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 able to connect via Appletalk to the OS9 machine and
 see the printer, 
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Re: USB sharing

2002-07-23 Thread Ryan Coleman

Ryan Coleman wrote:
what if bruce's clients don't have airport cards? and, as he said, they
pay per ethernet port? any  solutions there?


  I think $200 is a reasonable solution... you can get them for a total
  of below $100 on ebay... that's the route I would go.

And you can get in considerable trouble with the network admins in their
building by running unsanctioned networks.

Network managers dealing with hospital record and patient data security
have been known to become downright mean when they find giant gaping
security holes like WAP's on their nets...

Well, you see, you never said that.
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Re: USB sharing

2002-07-23 Thread vlad

yeah, that's what i meant, $100 per cardnot enough words, sorry:-)

On Tuesday, July 23, 2002, at 08:26 , Ryan Coleman wrote:

 No, that's for the two. They are $100/card right now new, aren't they?

 per card i presumehelpful, thanks

 vlad

 On Tuesday, July 23, 2002, at 08:16 , Ryan Coleman wrote:

  what if bruce's clients don't have airport cards? and, as he said, 
 they
  pay per ethernet port? any  solutions there?

  I think $200 is a reasonable solution... you can get them for a total
 of below $100 on ebay... that's the route I would go.


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