Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules (2)

2006-02-03 Thread Tim Collier


On Feb 3, 2006, at 1:55 AM, Frank P. Eigler wrote:


On Thu, 2 Feb 2006, Tim Collier wrote:


I have broadband cable.doesn't cost me anything other than what I
pay monthly.
For that matter, I haven't seen any ISP's that charge by the minute
lately..what, in years?

Tim
On Feb 2, 2006, at 3:09 PM, Al Poulin wrote:


On Feb 2, 2006, at 1:21 PM, G-Books wrote:


Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 12:56:48 -0500
Subject: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules (2)
From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I forgot to mention that when quoting, you should NEVER include
the info
footer that is added to every message.


And we sometimes see footer after footer after footer.  For some
folks, that takes time on line, which costs real money.

Al Poulin
Anger, hate, and revenge are for the devil, forgiveness is for God,
proactive self-defense is for the rest of us.




Exterminate all rational thought.



So much for bottom posting, eh?

THIS is the reason I don't like bottom posting.  When I first saw  
this in preview, all I see is different replies.  Having to go to the  
area and scroll down to read six words is really silly and wasteful  
of everybody's time.  This is the type that I usually just ignore and  
go on to the next one that top posted.  I think we need to put this  
to a vote.


Tim
Exterminate all rational thought.



--
G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com  | Refurbished Drives |
-- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks  |   CDRWs on Sale!  |

 Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

G-Books list info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html
 -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/



---
iPod Accessories for Less
at 1-800-iPOD.COM
Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal
www.1800ipod.com
---



Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules (2)

2006-02-03 Thread Krow Magnum
On 2/3/06, Tim Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  So much for bottom posting, eh?
 
 THIS is the reason I don't like bottom posting.  When I first saw
 this in preview, all I see is different replies.  Having to go to the
 area and scroll down to read six words is really silly and wasteful
 of everybody's time.  This is the type that I usually just ignore and
 go on to the next one that top posted.  I think we need to put this
 to a vote.

 Tim

This is all silly and wastesful..
It's very simple, just do it and move on with the topic of G-Books.

--
G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com  | Refurbished Drives |
 -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks  |   CDRWs on Sale!  |

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

G-Books list info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html
  -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/



---
iPod Accessories for Less
at 1-800-iPOD.COM
Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal
www.1800ipod.com
---



Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules (2)

2006-02-03 Thread Woody Duncan

Tim Collier wrote:

THIS is the reason I don't like bottom posting.  When I first saw  this 
in preview, all I see is different replies.  Having to go to the  area 
and scroll down to read six words is really silly and wasteful  of 
everybody's time.  This is the type that I usually just ignore and  go 
on to the next one that top posted.  I think we need to put this  to a vote.


I vote that Tim learn to delete all unnecessary text when
he replies to an e-mail.
Woody



--
Woody, Retired in Albuquerque
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

35 Quality Middle School Art Lessons
in powerpoint format, on one CD $17 (includes shipping)
http://www.taospaint.com/QualityLessons.html
Ordering Address: PO Box 91703
Albuquerque, NM87199-1703

“The function of the overwhelming majority of your artwork
is simply to teach you how to make the small fraction
of your artwork that soars.”  from: “Art  Fear”

Woody's Watercolor Portfolio:
http://www.taospaint.com/Portfolio/Watercolors.html
Newest Fantastic Triplet Pics:
http://www.taospaint.com/Kansas05/Christmas.html
My newest watercolors:
http://www.taospaint.com/Portfolio/Beach/Watercolors.html


--
G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com  | Refurbished Drives |
-- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks  |   CDRWs on Sale!  |

 Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

G-Books list info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html
 -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/



---
iPod Accessories for Less
at 1-800-iPOD.COM
Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal
www.1800ipod.com
---



Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules (2)

2006-02-03 Thread MorningAJ
Tim Collier writes: 

THIS is the reason I don't like bottom posting.  When I first saw  
this in preview, all I see is different replies.  Having to go to 
the  area and scroll down to read six words is really silly and 
wasteful  of everybody's time.  


   It's only a waste of time when the previous poster leaves *ALL* of the 
quoted text in place. Quote only what you need, dump the rest. The post 
you're reading right now is at least as readable as any you will ever read. 

   Doesn't AOL offer free classes in this stuff by now? 



cheers,
A.J.
--
Racing is life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting
   -- Steve McQueen 



--
G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com  | Refurbished Drives |
-- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks  |   CDRWs on Sale!  |

 Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

G-Books list info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html
 -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/



---
iPod Accessories for Less
at 1-800-iPOD.COM
Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal
www.1800ipod.com
---



Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules (2)

2006-02-03 Thread Brian McEwen


On Feb 3, 2006, at 11:31 AM, MorningAJ wrote:


Tim Collier writes:
THIS is the reason I don't like bottom posting.  When I first saw   
this in preview, all I see is different replies.  Having to go to  
the  area and scroll down to read six words is really silly and  
wasteful  of everybody's time.


   It's only a waste of time when the previous poster leaves *ALL*  
of the quoted text in place. Quote only what you need, dump the  
rest. The post you're reading right now is at least as readable as  
any you will ever read.

   Doesn't AOL offer free classes in this stuff by now?


I read this AM that AOL will start charging mailing list owners for  
content sent to their list members- if you aren't whitelisted, it  
will not be delivered.  Other big mail services (yahoo etc) should  
follow.


mailing list is a little vague but it mentions specifically  
enabling/disabling HTML links,etc, which content makes up 80% of 90%  
of the body in posts on the LEMlists (long footers).



B

http://www.clickz.com/news/article.php/3581301

AOL announced on January 30 that it will phase out its Enhanced  
Whitelist service in June in favour of Goodmail CertifiedEmail, which  
carries an as yet unspecified per-message fee. Until now, a mailing  
list gets on the AOL whitelist by following good e-mail practices,  
such as cleaning up dead addresses, making it easy for people to  
leave mailing lists, and of course not sending any spam. This is all  
going to be thrown out the window and replaced with the payment of  
hard currency to Goodmail. People who can afford to pay this fee will  
have the privilege of reaching AOL subscribers, others will end up in  
junk folders. Yahoo is expected to follow down the same path.




--
G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com  | Refurbished Drives |
-- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks  |   CDRWs on Sale!  |

 Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

G-Books list info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html
 -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/



---
iPod Accessories for Less
at 1-800-iPOD.COM
Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal
www.1800ipod.com
---



Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules (2)

2006-02-03 Thread Paul Stamsen
My reply follows quote.

On 2/3/06, at 5:53 AM -0500, Tim Collier wrote:

THIS is the reason I don't like bottom posting.  When I first saw
(snip)
go on to the next one that top posted.  I think we need to put this
to a vote.



I've been a list nanny since we started having nannies,  and on one of the
oldest lists, the quadlist.

The lists are not a democracy. There is no voting.  If you don't like
following rules meant for the good of all, unsubscribe. It's not a
dictatorship either.

That said, there have always been people who top-posted. It's a pain.

 Courtesy to aid effective communication  is the object here. Just as we
DON'T POST IN ALL CAPS we have a number of other conventions to extend
courtesy as we wish it extended to us.

 The top posting rules is a lot older than a year. (snip) ing long quotes
to the minimum is another courtesy.

But, Tim has put his finger on it.

 If we don't use the rules effectively, people will not read our thoughts.
 The delete key is a lot easier than scrolling through a lot of repetative
junk.


I'd suggest a look-see at the list rules
(http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/rules.html)

or I'll be glad to send them to you by e-mail.
-- 
HTH
 Paul (pjspop @ bresnan.net)

-- 
G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com  | Refurbished Drives |
 -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks  |   CDRWs on Sale!  |

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

G-Books list info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html
  -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/



---
iPod Accessories for Less
at 1-800-iPOD.COM
Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal
www.1800ipod.com
---



Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules (2)

2006-02-03 Thread Frank P. Eigler
On Fri, 3 Feb 2006, Tim Collier wrote:

 On Feb 3, 2006, at 1:55 AM, Frank P. Eigler wrote:
[snip]
  So much for bottom posting, eh?
 
 THIS is the reason I don't like bottom posting.  When I first saw
 this in preview, all I see is different replies.  Having to go to the
 area and scroll down to read six words is really silly and wasteful
 of everybody's time.  This is the type that I usually just ignore and
 go on to the next one that top posted.  I think we need to put this
 to a vote.

My appologies to this list and to you, Tim. Caught me at a bad moment.

-- 
Non Illegitimi Carborundum

-- 
G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com  | Refurbished Drives |
 -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks  |   CDRWs on Sale!  |

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

G-Books list info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html
  -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/



---
iPod Accessories for Less
at 1-800-iPOD.COM
Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal
www.1800ipod.com
---



Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules (2)

2006-02-02 Thread Laurent Daudelin
I forgot to mention that when quoting, you should NEVER include the info
footer that is added to every message. There is already the customary --
marker which most email clients will honor but for some reasons, I see way
too many posts that quote the entire message they're replying to, including
the footer.

Please, be considerate to other list members.

-Laurent, G-Books list nanny


-- 
G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com  | Refurbished Drives |
 -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks  |   CDRWs on Sale!  |

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

G-Books list info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html
  -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/



---
iPod Accessories for Less
at 1-800-iPOD.COM
Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal
www.1800ipod.com
---



Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules (2)

2006-02-02 Thread Al Poulin

On Feb 2, 2006, at 1:21 PM, G-Books wrote:


Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 12:56:48 -0500
Subject: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules (2)
From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I forgot to mention that when quoting, you should NEVER include the 
info

footer that is added to every message.


And we sometimes see footer after footer after footer.  For some folks, 
that takes time on line, which costs real money.


Al Poulin
Anger, hate, and revenge are for the devil, forgiveness is for God, 
proactive self-defense is for the rest of us.



--
G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com  | Refurbished Drives |
-- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks  |   CDRWs on Sale!  |

 Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

G-Books list info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html
 -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/



---
iPod Accessories for Less
at 1-800-iPOD.COM
Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal
www.1800ipod.com
---



Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules (2)

2006-02-02 Thread Tim Collier
I have broadband cable.doesn't cost me anything other than what I  
pay monthly.
For that matter, I haven't seen any ISP's that charge by the minute  
lately..what, in years?


Tim
On Feb 2, 2006, at 3:09 PM, Al Poulin wrote:


On Feb 2, 2006, at 1:21 PM, G-Books wrote:


Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 12:56:48 -0500
Subject: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules (2)
From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I forgot to mention that when quoting, you should NEVER include  
the info

footer that is added to every message.


And we sometimes see footer after footer after footer.  For some  
folks, that takes time on line, which costs real money.


Al Poulin
Anger, hate, and revenge are for the devil, forgiveness is for God,  
proactive self-defense is for the rest of us.





Exterminate all rational thought.



--
G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com  | Refurbished Drives |
-- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks  |   CDRWs on Sale!  |

 Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

G-Books list info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html
 -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/



---
iPod Accessories for Less
at 1-800-iPOD.COM
Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal
www.1800ipod.com
---



Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules (2)

2006-02-02 Thread Frank P. Eigler
On Thu, 2 Feb 2006, Tim Collier wrote:

 I have broadband cable.doesn't cost me anything other than what I
 pay monthly.
 For that matter, I haven't seen any ISP's that charge by the minute
 lately..what, in years?

 Tim
 On Feb 2, 2006, at 3:09 PM, Al Poulin wrote:

  On Feb 2, 2006, at 1:21 PM, G-Books wrote:
 
  Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 12:56:48 -0500
  Subject: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules (2)
  From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  I forgot to mention that when quoting, you should NEVER include
  the info
  footer that is added to every message.
 
  And we sometimes see footer after footer after footer.  For some
  folks, that takes time on line, which costs real money.
 
  Al Poulin
  Anger, hate, and revenge are for the devil, forgiveness is for God,
  proactive self-defense is for the rest of us.
 
 

 Exterminate all rational thought.


So much for bottom posting, eh?

-- 
Non Illegitimi Carborundum

-- 
G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

 Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com  | Refurbished Drives |
 -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks  |   CDRWs on Sale!  |

  Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

G-Books list info:  http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html
  -- AOL users, remove mailto:;
Send list messages to:  mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com
To unsubscribe, email:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/



---
iPod Accessories for Less
at 1-800-iPOD.COM
Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal
www.1800ipod.com
---