Re: TiBook power adapter problem (update)

2005-05-27 Thread Larry le Mac

From: Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]



No. The power manager's a separate bit of electronics:

 http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=14449

But the point's moot since you seem to have got it working. If reset- all 
did it, it was confused sleep settings in NVRAM.


No, I did reset-all and reset-nvram when I first received the TiBook
about a month ago. I'd done nothing with it...

?!


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Re: TiBook power adapter problem ???

2005-05-27 Thread Larry le Mac

From: Anne Judge [EMAIL PROTECTED]



My original 17 AlBook is going this way for the 2nd time - the cable
cover of the line from computer-end plug to adapter has pulled away
from the plug so you can see the 2 inner wires.  I've got it wrapped
in electrical tape to hold it for a while.


But then your problem must apparent at all times, my wife's
TiBook is/was (?) only playing up during sleep, and only (as
far as I know) in OS X.


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Re: TiBook power adapter problem (update)

2005-05-26 Thread Larry le Mac

From: Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]



If it's only when it goes to sleep, it's a software issue;
possibly a  firmware one, if they released a firmware
update for the TiBook.


I downloaded the 4.1.8 firmware update but it told me
the PowerBook was already updated.

However, it's been fine ever since...
---

Remotely it could be a power manager board issue.
Have you reset the Power Manager per Apple's KB article?


I typed reset-all in Open Firmware...

That's the same isn't it ?!


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Re: TiBook power adapter problem ???

2005-05-26 Thread Anne Judge
John McGibney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My TiBook adapter failed where the line went into the plug for the
 book. The strain relief/flex covering isn't strong enough so it
 cracks and lets the wire flex at a right angle. Eventually the
 shield cracks and power is lost. The AlBooks have a heavier gauge
 wire and stiffer covering at the plug.

My original 17 AlBook is going this way for the 2nd time - the cable
cover of the line from computer-end plug to adapter has pulled away
from the plug so you can see the 2 inner wires.  I've got it wrapped
in electrical tape to hold it for a while.

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Re: TiBook power adapter problem (update)

2005-05-26 Thread Bruce Johnson


On May 26, 2005, at 12:21 PM, Larry le Mac wrote:

However, it's been fine ever since...
---


Remotely it could be a power manager board issue.
Have you reset the Power Manager per Apple's KB article?



I typed reset-all in Open Firmware...

That's the same isn't it ?!



No. The power manager's a separate bit of electronics:

 http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=14449

But the point's moot since you seem to have got it working. If reset- 
all did it, it was confused sleep settings in NVRAM.


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TiBook power adapter problem (again)

2005-05-24 Thread Larry le Mac

I have now left the TiBook plugged in overnight, switched off,
and the adapter is still active, obviously not charging as it's
fully charged, but the LED is still on (green).

The problem is only apparent when the TiBook goes to sleep
which means that it cannot be the power adapter.

It's beginning to sound right about this OS X and not OS 9
problem, so tonight I will install OS 9.2 and I'll see...

Any ideas ?!



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Re: TiBook power adapter problem (update)

2005-05-24 Thread Bruce Johnson


On May 23, 2005, at 2:42 PM, Larry le Mac wrote:


I only seem to be getting replies relating to the hardware,
specifically crappy cables, but that does not explain why
it only stops charging when the PowerBook is asleep.
When it's running or off, it charges quite happily.



If it's only when it goes to sleep, it's a software issue; possibly a  
firmware one, if they released a firmware update for the TiBook.  
Remotely it could be a power manager board issue. Have you reset the  
Power Manager per Apple's KB article?


It could be a flaky PRAM battery. The machine's old enough to have  
that problem.


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Re: TiBook power adapter problem (update)

2005-05-24 Thread Larry le Mac

From: Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]



If it's only when it goes to sleep, it's a software issue;
possibly a  firmware one, if they released a firmware
update for the TiBook.


What a dork, I've been updating Pismos left, right and centre,
but it never crossed my mind. Doh!

There is a 4.1.8 update which should be for the 400MHz,
and as I bought the computer from a warehouse clearance
my money is on a non-updated TiBook.
---

Remotely it could be a power manager board issue.
Have you reset the Power Manager per Apple's KB article?


reset-nvram in Open Firmware ???
---

It could be a flaky PRAM battery. The machine's old enough
to have that problem.


Could be, and I even have one from a broken TiBook.  :o)


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TiBook power adapter problem ???

2005-05-23 Thread Larry le Mac

Yes, my questions keep coming...

My wife's TiBook 400MHz has now developed a strange
problem where all of a sudden the charger stops charging,
the LED switches off and the PowerBook runs off the battery
until it goes to sleep due to lack of battery power.

When one unplugs and plugs the charger back in again,
it starts to charge. It doesn't seem to be a loose connection
as wiggling the adapter or plug makes  no difference, only
unplugging/re-plugging makes it charge again.

?!?


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Re: TiBook power adapter problem ???

2005-05-23 Thread Michael Levin
Based, unfortunately, on personal experience, you have a slowly dying  
power cable. You have about 8 months (give or take) from the when the  
problem initially began. To avoid buying an overpriced Apple  
replacement part, check web sites for a replacement cable.


Also, my Book has the vertical stripes. Apple will NOT fix the  
problem. Again, based, unfortunately, on personal experience.


Just out of curiosity, try running a graphic intensive game. Not a  
golf program but something like KTA Tennis or a racing program.  
Please et me know, off list, if anything happens to your screen.


On May 23, 2005, at 1:03 PM, Larry le Mac wrote:


Yes, my questions keep coming...

My wife's TiBook 400MHz has now developed a strange
problem where all of a sudden the charger stops charging,
the LED switches off and the PowerBook runs off the battery
until it goes to sleep due to lack of battery power.

When one unplugs and plugs the charger back in again,
it starts to charge. It doesn't seem to be a loose connection
as wiggling the adapter or plug makes  no difference, only
unplugging/re-plugging makes it charge again.

?!?


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Re: TiBook power adapter problem ???

2005-05-23 Thread Keith Johnson


On May 23, 2005, at 3:54 PM, Michael Levin wrote:

Based, unfortunately, on personal experience, you have a slowly dying 
power cable. You have about 8 months (give or take) from the when the 
problem initially began. To avoid buying an overpriced Apple 
replacement part, check web sites for a replacement cable.





Did the TiBook use the same AC adaptor as the iBooks? The iBook adaptor 
problems resulted in a class-action lawsuit, and the owners with failed 
adaptors get $35.



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Re: TiBook power adapter problem ???

2005-05-23 Thread Larry le Mac

From: Michael Levin [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Based, unfortunately, on personal experience, you have a slowly dying  
power cable. You have about 8 months (give or take) from the when the  
problem initially began. To avoid buying an overpriced Apple  replacement 
part, check web sites for a replacement cable.


When you say power cable, which part do you mean ?

My adapter only has the psu with cable and the plug that
plugs into 230V, not the long mains cable.

???

---
Also, my Book has the vertical stripes. Apple will NOT fix the  problem. 
Again, based, unfortunately, on personal experience.


The stripes are on a different TiBook, yet unseen and possibly
to be bought (400MHz, 256MB/10GB/DVD 900SEK a bit over $100)


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Re: TiBook power adapter problem ???

2005-05-23 Thread Michael Levin

On May 23, 2005, at 4:20 PM, Larry le Mac wrote:


From: Michael Levin [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Based, unfortunately, on personal experience, you have a slowly  
dying  power cable. You have about 8 months (give or take) from  
the when the  problem initially began. To avoid buying an  
overpriced Apple  replacement part, check web sites for a  
replacement cable.




When you say power cable, which part do you mean ?

My adapter only has the psu with cable and the plug that
plugs into 230V, not the long mains cable.

???
You will need to replace the unit that runs from the Book to the  
adapter.  On my unit, the cable from the adapter to the electric plug  
works fine. Because I dawdled on buying a replacement cable, I had to  
shell out $85 for a replacement Apple power cable. Hence, I have 2  
units that have the long electric plug but only 1 cable that runs  
from the Book to the adapter.


On the bright side, I unplug the cable at the adapter source and put  
the Book and the adapter into my bag because I keep one long electric  
cable at the house, one long electric cable at the office, and the  
plug only in my bag (just in case).


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Re: TiBook power adapter problem (update)

2005-05-23 Thread Larry le Mac

I only seem to be getting replies relating to the hardware,
specifically crappy cables, but that does not explain why
it only stops charging when the PowerBook is asleep.
When it's running or off, it charges quite happily.

I have read on the net about this only being an OS X
issue and not OS 9, though this PowerBook doesn't have
OS 9 installed (might do it just to see though).

So, anyone have any thoughts on this not being a broken
cable type problem ?


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