Re: WALLSTREET /250 0SX 10.2 INSTALL ?? HELP!!
If you plan to update to 10.2 (I strongly recommend), then, install 10.1, then update to 10.2. Then, use the software update that should be smart enough to tell you what update you need. I would imagine that you will need the combo update (10.2.3 and 10.2.4) and then there will be the security update. Make sure you follow the right order or you will have problems, as you have experienced... -Laurent. AH, I HAVE TRIED ALL THE VARIOUS COMBINATIONS... 10.1 then the combo update in the prescribed order , 10.1.5 hangs the machine with a dark screen. 10.2 with or without the prescribed update will also hang the machine after a partial install. I would be happy to get just as far as 10.1.5 (inorder to run a piece of software) but alas I can not seem to solve this problem. I will try to remove some ram (although it has run well with it installed on 9.2.2) The 30 gig HD seems to be ok but I guess I could try to reinstall the orig 5 gig...I am at a loss... TIA Art --- Art, Do try removing any RAM that you may have added. Many user report sites have reported that RAM that may ahve worked like a charm under OS 9, may not work under OS X at all. So, try the original RAM that came with the machine. Two other possibilities, and I can't recall if these have been suggested and tried: 1) remove all USB devices (other than your keyboard and mouse), 2) make sure that your machines firmware is up to date. One could also ensure that any virus protection is off, and that OS 9 is not in Multi-User mode...four, four suggestions. Jerry -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: WALLSTREET /250 0SX 10.2 INSTALL ?? HELP!!
I had what I think was a similar problem trying to install 10.2 on my wallstreet 250. I was forced to upgrade because I was getting a flashing question mark at startup. It would boot from the 10.2 cd, but then hang during the install. I tried everything I could think of including: Removing suspect ram, choosing to do the minimal install, using the BSD file system, and propping up the back of the machine in a cooling effort. I was persistent and it finally installed. I was doing all of this at the time, but I would bet that doing the minimum install and removing suspect ram did more good than anything else. After getting everything setup and running software update to 10.2.4. I thought I would try installing optional things off the 10.2 cd, big mistake. Once I booted off the 10.2 cd it put me right back were I started. It would no longer boot and gave me a flashing question mark. This time I repeated, adding some disk scanning with the utility included on the 10.2 cd. My new install has been fairly stable for about a week now. I've added back the suspect ram with few problems. I have had the video lock up twice I believe, during installs also. However, I was able to listen for the disk to quit spinning and shutdown gracefully using keyboard combinations. For what it's worth --Kris -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: WALLSTREET /250 0SX 10.2 INSTALL ?? HELP!!
That clears it up and set my clock straight! Thanks for the info. and sorry about the confusion i might have created. Best Regards Hugo On Wednesday, March 12, 2003, at 01:37 AM, Andrew Johnson wrote: On Wednesday, March 12, 2003, at 12:35 AM, Hugo Trottier wrote: I think i read somewhere that the wallstreet is one of the only unsuported powbook not supported on OSX? Please investigate. Best Regards Hugo Trottier The Wallstreet is most definitely supported as an OS X machine, the Kanga is the only G3 based computer that isn't supported (and therefore will not install at all w/o assistance) AFAIK. I run 10.2.4 on my Wallstreet 250 and it runs like a top, installed directly from the 10.2 disc that came with my TiBook, havent had any major problems with it since (although it isnt quite as stable as the TiBook) -Andrew -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: WALLSTREET /250 0SX 10.2 INSTALL ?? HELP!!
on 3/12/03 1:37 AM, Andrew Johnson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday, March 12, 2003, at 12:35 AM, Hugo Trottier wrote: I think i read somewhere that the wallstreet is one of the only unsuported powbook not supported on OSX? Please investigate. Best Regards Hugo Trottier The Wallstreet is most definitely supported as an OS X machine, the Kanga is the only G3 based computer that isn't supported (and therefore will not install at all w/o assistance) AFAIK. I run 10.2.4 on my Wallstreet 250 and it runs like a top, installed directly from the 10.2 disc that came with my TiBook, havent had any major problems with it since (although it isnt quite as stable as the TiBook) -Andrew Andrew, Are you running Jaguar on a stock Wallstreet or have you added memory, hard drive, etc.? I'm wondering about installing Jaguar on my wife's Wallstreet. Thanks, Andre -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: WALLSTREET /250 0SX 10.2 INSTALL ?? HELP!!
If you plan to update to 10.2 (I strongly recommend), then, install 10.1, then update to 10.2. Then, use the software update that should be smart enough to tell you what update you need. I would imagine that you will need the combo update (10.2.3 and 10.2.4) and then there will be the security update. Make sure you follow the right order or you will have problems, as you have experienced... -Laurent. AH, I HAVE TRIED ALL THE VARIOUS COMBINATIONS... 10.1 then the combo update in the prescribed order , 10.1.5 hangs the machine with a dark screen. 10.2 with or without the prescribed update will also hang the machine after a partial install. I would be happy to get just as far as 10.1.5 (inorder to run a piece of software) but alas I can not seem to solve this problem. I will try to remove some ram (although it has run well with it installed on 9.2.2) The 30 gig HD seems to be ok but I guess I could try to reinstall the orig 5 gig...I am at a loss... TIA Art -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: WALLSTREET /250 0SX 10.2 INSTALL ?? HELP!!
On 13/03/03 13:11, Art Montes De Oca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you plan to update to 10.2 (I strongly recommend), then, install 10.1, then update to 10.2. Then, use the software update that should be smart enough to tell you what update you need. I would imagine that you will need the combo update (10.2.3 and 10.2.4) and then there will be the security update. Make sure you follow the right order or you will have problems, as you have experienced... -Laurent. AH, I HAVE TRIED ALL THE VARIOUS COMBINATIONS... 10.1 then the combo update in the prescribed order , 10.1.5 hangs the machine with a dark screen. 10.2 with or without the prescribed update will also hang the machine after a partial install. I would be happy to get just as far as 10.1.5 (inorder to run a piece of software) but alas I can not seem to solve this problem. I will try to remove some ram (although it has run well with it installed on 9.2.2) The 30 gig HD seems to be ok but I guess I could try to reinstall the orig 5 gig...I am at a loss... You're mentioning RAM. Does this Wallstreet had more RAM added to it? If so, it would be indeed a good idea to put back the original RAM. I've read numerous messages about OS X being a lot more picky about RAM. I would think the hard disk is fine. -Laurent. -- === Laurent DaudelinDeveloper, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Washington, DC, USA * Usual disclaimers apply * -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: WALLSTREET /250 0SX 10.2 INSTALL ?? HELP!!
Hi all! I found a firewire card for my modded wallstreet that might work from oarngelink. Has anyone used their card in a wallstreet before? Did it work? thx for any comments, nick -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
WALLSTREET /250 0SX 10.2 INSTALL ?? HELP!!
I HAVE A 250MHZ WALLSTREET W 350+MEGS RAM AND 20GIG HD. I PARTITIONED IT W/ 7 MEGS FOR OSX AND THE REMAINDER FOR OS9.2.2 . I can install 10.1 without any problemther a blk screen or a banded blue screen. I tried installing the security update recomended by apple then the 10.5 upgrade from the apple web site...same thing it just hangs after starting the upgrade??? I am at wits end. I don't know what to try next. I have reformatted twicw. oncw with the os 9.2 drivers then with the formatting utility off of the OSx disc. No go. Same result and symptoms. Is this a Wallstreet thing? I have read the news groups and find what appear to be Wallstreet owners running osx 10.2. I dont know what the problem is! My Karma cant be that bad! Help!! Thanks, Art -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: WALLSTREET /250 0SX 10.2 INSTALL ?? HELP!!
on 11/03/03 22:12, Art Montes De Oca at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I HAVE A 250MHZ WALLSTREET W 350+MEGS RAM AND 20GIG HD. I PARTITIONED IT W/ 7 MEGS FOR OSX AND THE REMAINDER FOR OS9.2.2 . I can install 10.1 without any problemther a blk screen or a banded blue screen. I tried installing the security update recomended by apple then the 10.5 upgrade from the apple web site...same thing it just hangs after starting the upgrade??? I am at wits end. I don't know what to try next. I have reformatted twicw. oncw with the os 9.2 drivers then with the formatting utility off of the OSx disc. No go. Same result and symptoms. Is this a Wallstreet thing? I have read the news groups and find what appear to be Wallstreet owners running osx 10.2. I dont know what the problem is! My Karma cant be that bad! Help!! Thanks, Art Not sure I can understand: did you initially install 10.1? Was that version working? I think you need to update to 10.1.5 before installing the latest security update. Did you try updating to 10.1.5? Did it work? -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] geek n.: A person who has chosen concentration rather than conformity; one who pursues skill (especially technical skill) and imagination, not mainstream social acceptance. Geeks usually have a strong case of neophilia. Most geeks are adept with computers and treat hacker as a term of respect, but not all are hackers themselves - and some who are in fact hackers normally call themselves geeks anyway, because they (quite properly) regard `hacker' as a label that should be bestowed by others rather than self-assumed. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: WALLSTREET /250 0SX 10.2 INSTALL ?? HELP!!
Laurent Daudelin wrote: on 11/03/03 22:12, Art Montes De Oca at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I HAVE A 250MHZ WALLSTREET W 350+MEGS RAM AND 20GIG HD. I PARTITIONED IT W/ 7 MEGS FOR OSX AND THE REMAINDER FOR OS9.2.2 . I can install 10.1 without any problemther a blk screen or a banded blue screen. I tried installing the security update recomended by apple then the 10.5 upgrade from the apple web site...same thing it just hangs after starting the upgrade??? I am at wits end. I don't know what to try next. I have reformatted twicw. oncw with the os 9.2 drivers then with the formatting utility off of the OSx disc. No go. Same result and symptoms. Not sure I can understand: did you initially install 10.1? Was that version working? I think you need to update to 10.1.5 before installing the latest security update. Did you try updating to 10.1.5? Did it work? -Laurent. Ok, I did get as far as 10.1 off of the CD. No problems...ir ran it behaved it did not crash etc. When I installed the security update, still no problem. As soon as I tried to go to 10.1.5 then I got the hang ups...never did install 10.1.5. I tried to install 10.2 directly off the cd onto a fresh install od 10.1 and no go. I tried to install 10.2 onto a 10.1 with the security update and no go. I get a hang up when i try to install anything other than the security update. Any ideas? thanks.. Art -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: WALLSTREET /250 0SX 10.2 INSTALL ?? HELP!!
I think i read somewhere that the wallstreet is one of the only unsuported powbook not supported on OSX? Please investigate. Best Regards Hugo Trottier On Tuesday, March 11, 2003, at 10:12 PM, Art Montes De Oca wrote: I HAVE A 250MHZ WALLSTREET W 350+MEGS RAM AND 20GIG HD. I PARTITIONED IT W/ 7 MEGS FOR OSX AND THE REMAINDER FOR OS9.2.2 . I can install 10.1 without any problemther a blk screen or a banded blue screen. I tried installing the security update recomended by apple then the 10.5 upgrade from the apple web site...same thing it just hangs after starting the upgrade??? I am at wits end. I don't know what to try next. I have reformatted twicw. oncw with the os 9.2 drivers then with the formatting utility off of the OSx disc. No go. Same result and symptoms. Is this a Wallstreet thing? I have read the news groups and find what appear to be Wallstreet owners running osx 10.2. I dont know what the problem is! My Karma cant be that bad! Help!! Thanks, Art -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: WALLSTREET /250 0SX 10.2 INSTALL ?? HELP!!
On Wednesday, March 12, 2003, at 12:35 AM, Hugo Trottier wrote: I think i read somewhere that the wallstreet is one of the only unsuported powbook not supported on OSX? Please investigate. Best Regards Hugo Trottier The Wallstreet is most definitely supported as an OS X machine, the Kanga is the only G3 based computer that isn't supported (and therefore will not install at all w/o assistance) AFAIK. I run 10.2.4 on my Wallstreet 250 and it runs like a top, installed directly from the 10.2 disc that came with my TiBook, havent had any major problems with it since (although it isnt quite as stable as the TiBook) -Andrew -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: WALLSTREET /250 0SX 10.2 INSTALL ?? HELP!!
on 12/03/03 00:47, Art Montes De Oca at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Laurent Daudelin wrote: on 11/03/03 22:12, Art Montes De Oca at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I HAVE A 250MHZ WALLSTREET W 350+MEGS RAM AND 20GIG HD. I PARTITIONED IT W/ 7 MEGS FOR OSX AND THE REMAINDER FOR OS9.2.2 . I can install 10.1 without any problemther a blk screen or a banded blue screen. I tried installing the security update recomended by apple then the 10.5 upgrade from the apple web site...same thing it just hangs after starting the upgrade??? I am at wits end. I don't know what to try next. I have reformatted twicw. oncw with the os 9.2 drivers then with the formatting utility off of the OSx disc. No go. Same result and symptoms. Not sure I can understand: did you initially install 10.1? Was that version working? I think you need to update to 10.1.5 before installing the latest security update. Did you try updating to 10.1.5? Did it work? -Laurent. Ok, I did get as far as 10.1 off of the CD. No problems...ir ran it behaved it did not crash etc. When I installed the security update, still no problem. As soon as I tried to go to 10.1.5 then I got the hang ups...never did install 10.1.5. I tried to install 10.2 directly off the cd onto a fresh install od 10.1 and no go. I tried to install 10.2 onto a 10.1 with the security update and no go. I get a hang up when i try to install anything other than the security update. Any ideas? OK, well, if you tried to install the latest security update, I think it is for 10.1.5. So, after installing 10.1, you should update to 10.1.5 *THEN* proceed to install the security update. If you plan to update to 10.2 (I strongly recommend), then, install 10.1, then update to 10.2. Then, use the software update that should be smart enough to tell you what update you need. I would imagine that you will need the combo update (10.2.3 and 10.2.4) and then there will be the security update. Make sure you follow the right order or you will have problems, as you have experienced... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] elder days n.: The heroic age of hackerdom (roughly, pre-1980); the era of the PDP-10, TECO, ITS, and the ARPANET. This term has been rather consciously adopted from J. R. R. Tolkien's fantasy epic The Lord of the Rings. Compare Iron Age; see also elvish and Great Worm. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
