Re: Wallstreet Tiger
There was a 14.4 though... It's probably a 15 case though... On 18/05/2005, at 04:31, Laurent Daudelin wrote: On 17/05/05 14:59, Edward Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip!] Powerbook Wallstreet 15 PowerBook Wallstreet 15? I've never heard of a Wallstreet with a 15 screen! -Laurent. -- === = Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Tiger speed on older machines, was Re: Wallstreet Tiger
On May 16, 2005, at 3:27 PM, Anne Judge wrote: On May 16, 2005, at 4:58 PM, Beniamino Cenci Goga wrote: PS. I managed to install Tiger to the iBook G3 via SCSI disk mode: it is pretty slow but usable. That's pretty amazing since no iBook ever came with SCSI ;-) I presume you mean Firewire disk mode. Was Panther on the iBook before Tiger? If so, is Tiger slower than Panther had been? I'm wondering whether to upgrade some older iMacs currently running Panther, and I've heard Tiger runs faster than (or at least as fast as) Panther, so this would be feasible. Once we upgrade, I prefer that the systems we support (father's, elderly friend's from church) also be upgraded to the same OS as it makes support over the phone much easier to do! Tiger runs noticeably faster on my Pismo than Panther which was noticeably faster than Jag. Officially per our campus Apple engineering contact, Tiger should run faster on supported systems provided you have enough ram. He says 256 is ok if all you want to do is boot it up and have it sit there, but reasonable use needs 512M. -- Wherever you go, there you are. - B. Banzai, Ph.D. Bruce Johnson -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Tiger speed on older machines, was Re: Wallstreet Tiger
On May 17, 2005, at 11:51 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: Tiger runs noticeably faster on my Pismo than Panther which was noticeably faster than Jag. Officially per our campus Apple engineering contact, Tiger should run faster on supported systems provided you have enough ram. He says 256 is ok if all you want to do is boot it up and have it sit there, but reasonable use needs 512M. These have 384 and are used almost entirely for reading email via dial-up connection, with the very occasional web site visit. One's officially unsupported, the other's open to interpretation. So I'm specifically asking about its relative speed (i.e. relative to Panther) on UNsupported sytems. I seem to remember one person here who thought it was faster on his wallstreet?? Anne -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Tiger speed on older machines, was Re: Wallstreet Tiger
On May 17, 2005, at 9:31 AM, Anne Judge wrote: These have 384 and are used almost entirely for reading email via dial-up connection, with the very occasional web site visit. One's officially unsupported, the other's open to interpretation. So I'm specifically asking about its relative speed (i.e. relative to Panther) on UNsupported sytems. I seem to remember one person here who thought it was faster on his wallstreet?? Getting it installed and running is the main impediment of 'unsupported' systems. Once this is accomplished, relative speed on the same system should be roughly the same for supported and unsupported systems, so yes, it should run faster. -- Wherever you go, there you are. - B. Banzai, Ph.D. Bruce Johnson -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Wallstreet Tiger
I'm aware that the WS is ancient, the issue that I have is that I have installed Panther by removing the powerbooks hardrive and loading it into a firewire drive attached to a supported computer...after putting the HD back in the powerbook it works fine, booting into Panther with no prob...this is just odd...I can install Tiger on my iPod and boot from it! The powerbook's hardrive (with Tiger) will start up on a desktop but not on my wallstreet.didn't have this issue with Panther... Powerbook Wallstreet 15 500MHZ G4 upgrade 512MB RAM 30GB HD Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 22:58:12 +0200 From: Beniamino Cenci Goga [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Wallstreet Tiger The wallstreet is not a supported platform for Tiger. Stick with Panther on your Wallstreet WS is not supported for panther too! but I managed to install it with XPF Try, as soon as it is available the version that installs Tiger, with XPostFacto (XPF). Ben PS. I managed to install Tiger to the iBook G3 via SCSI disk mode: it is pretty slow but usable. Ben -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wallstreet Tiger
On 17/05/05 14:59, Edward Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip!] Powerbook Wallstreet 15 PowerBook Wallstreet 15? I've never heard of a Wallstreet with a 15 screen! -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wallstreet Tiger
The Wallstreet on Panther is much like the Lombard on Tiger, meaning it is for the most part compatible, but intentionally restricted only by the Install program on the CD or DVD. I used the exact same method to install Tiger on my wife's Lombard and it works great, but the Wallstreet is simply not Tiger-compatible. A similar analogy is the Kanga G3 PowerBook, which will not load OSX without XPostFacto. The Kanga has hardware that just will not run OSX without XPostFacto adding the necessary drivers to OSX. The Wallstreet has an older video card than the Lombard or Pismo, not to mention different motherboard components. One or more of those components, while supported natively with a driver in Panther, is no longer supported in Tiger. Panther is the best you will get on a WallStreet until XPostFacto adds Tiger support for a WallStreet. Honestly, I'd be happy you got Panther running, many WallStreet owners aren't able to. I didn't expect Tiger to work on the Lombard, and consider it entirely a bonus that it does, not an entitlement on a 6-year-old laptop. Andrew On 5/17/05 11:59 AM, Edward Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm aware that the WS is ancient, the issue that I have is that I have installed Panther by removing the powerbooks hardrive and loading it into a firewire drive attached to a supported computer...after putting the HD back in the powerbook it works fine, booting into Panther with no prob...this is just odd...I can install Tiger on my iPod and boot from it! The powerbook's hardrive (with Tiger) will start up on a desktop but not on my wallstreet.didn't have this issue with Panther... Powerbook Wallstreet 15 500MHZ G4 upgrade 512MB RAM 30GB HD Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 22:58:12 +0200 From: Beniamino Cenci Goga [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Wallstreet Tiger The wallstreet is not a supported platform for Tiger. Stick with Panther on your Wallstreet WS is not supported for panther too! but I managed to install it with XPF Try, as soon as it is available the version that installs Tiger, with XPostFacto (XPF). Ben PS. I managed to install Tiger to the iBook G3 via SCSI disk mode: it is pretty slow but usable. Ben -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Wallstreet Tiger
In a never ending quest to keep my Wallstreet going I attempted a Tiger install. I tried this the same way I did Panther, by removing the hard-drive, putting it in a firewire casing and installing from my Tower. It installs fine and runs great on the tower, but when I transfer the hard-drive back to the Wallstreet I get a no disk flasherany ideas? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wallstreet Tiger
The wallstreet is not a supported platform for Tiger. Stick with Panther on your Wallstreet Steve On May 16, 2005, at 3:18 PM, Edward Jackson wrote: In a never ending quest to keep my Wallstreet going I attempted a Tiger install. I tried this the same way I did Panther, by removing the hard-drive, putting it in a firewire casing and installing from my Tower. It installs fine and runs great on the tower, but when I transfer the hard-drive back to the Wallstreet I get a no disk flasherany ideas? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wallstreet Tiger
The wallstreet is not a supported platform for Tiger. Stick with Panther on your Wallstreet WS is not supported for panther too! but I managed to install it with XPF Try, as soon as it is available the version that installs Tiger, with XPostFacto (XPF). Ben PS. I managed to install Tiger to the iBook G3 via SCSI disk mode: it is pretty slow but usable. Ben -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Tiger speed on older machines, was Re: Wallstreet Tiger
On May 16, 2005, at 4:58 PM, Beniamino Cenci Goga wrote: PS. I managed to install Tiger to the iBook G3 via SCSI disk mode: it is pretty slow but usable. Was Panther on the iBook before Tiger? If so, is Tiger slower than Panther had been? I'm wondering whether to upgrade some older iMacs currently running Panther, and I've heard Tiger runs faster than (or at least as fast as) Panther, so this would be feasible. Once we upgrade, I prefer that the systems we support (father's, elderly friend's from church) also be upgraded to the same OS as it makes support over the phone much easier to do! -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Tiger speed on older machines, was Re: Wallstreet Tiger
Actually I reformatted and performed a clean install (via FW target mode, sorry, not SCSI mode): it is not the slower that Panther, but I have to say that the previous configuration was the result of 3 years of upgrades and software installations, so I guess a clean install of 10.3 could do better... PS. I managed to install Tiger to the iBook G3 via SCSI disk mode: it is pretty slow but usable. Was Panther on the iBook before Tiger? If so, is Tiger slower than Panther had been? I'm wondering whether to upgrade some older iMacs currently running Panther, -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
