Re: Yo-yo PSU
I never coil mine up (that is the design flaw) and have had no problems with it in the last two years and I have two of them. Tom I just think that, overall, the design of the Yo-Yo was flawed, IMO. If you've had good luck with yours, that's great! But, I still think the design was flawed. Sincerely, Scott -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Yo-yo PSU
On 9/26/03 18:01, Tekno Liber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Andrew Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Speaking as an electrical engineer snip If anyone would like to test this theory, just go out to your car and short your battery (only 12v!) with a large metal object, the resulting fire should serve as proof enough. Ok, if you're an electrical engineer then you should also be able to distinguish between the enormous charge that is held in the ca battery and the puny 2A available in a laptop PSU... Laurence And as a biomedical engineer, I know you can kill someone with 2 milliamps in the right circumstances, check the standards for leakage current in biomedical equipment. Joe Ellis -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Yo-yo PSU
On 9/26/03 7:15 AM, Tekno Liber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: something came loose because the cord darkened as if burned right at that spot and the adapter only works if I hold the cord in a certain position. Not an optimal (nor necessarily safe) operating condition. I wouldn't call 24V unsafe however you handle it. Maybe licking the terminals doesn't feel too good, but otherwise no problems... I'm talking more along the lines of an arc causing a fire or some sort. My philosophy is, you just don't mess with electricity. If it isn't doing what it's supposed to do, fix or replace it. Sincerely, Scott -- I say, if your knees aren't green by the end of the day, you ought to seriously re-examine your life. -Calvin -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Yo-yo PSU
On 9/26/03 7:57 AM, Joe Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tend to try to keep a loop around the center so there is little or no tension on the point where it enters there. On the other end, I always make sure I grasp the whole plug piece when connecting or disconnecting so that I don't strain the wire. I've had my Pismo and 2 Yo-Yo's for over 3 years and haven't had a problem with either of them. I was nothing but extremely careful with my adapter. Always kept tension off the center and always very gingerly handled the plug when connecting it to the computer. I just think that, overall, the design of the Yo-Yo was flawed, IMO. If you've had good luck with yours, that's great! But, I still think the design was flawed. Sincerely, Scott -- According to one trivia book I have read, on some islands in the Caribbean, oysters can climb trees. Am I the only one that feels the world is suddenly a much more disturbing place because of this? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Yo-yo PSU
One little Zap and there goes the old Pacemaker! ;-) Brandy Laurent Daudelin wrote: on 26/09/03 09:07, Andrew Johnson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking as an electrical engineer, voltages of any magnitude can be dangerous if mishandled. If the cabling/housing of the yo-yo was blackened by the fault, it could have just as easily ignited. While 24v isn't likely to injure you (unlike, say, 270v 3-phase AC) it can make things happen that can. If anyone would like to test this theory, just go out to your car and short your battery (only 12v!) with a large metal object, the resulting fire should serve as proof enough. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Yo-yo PSU
From: Scott Crick [EMAIL PROTECTED] my original yo-yo adapter died a slow and painful death. I've heard that the yo-yo isn't the best. Mine's ok, but what is the weak point, what should I look out for in a preventive way ? Laurence _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Yo-yo PSU
On 9/26/03 2:34 AM, Tekno Liber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've heard that the yo-yo isn't the best. Mine's ok, but what is the weak point, what should I look out for in a preventive way ? I've heard of two different places that a problematic. The first is where the cord from the adapter to the computer actually connects to the adapter. This is where mine died. Obviously, something came loose because the cord darkened as if burned right at that spot and the adapter only works if I hold the cord in a certain position. Not an optimal (nor necessarily safe) operating condition. I've also heard of the actually adapter plug (the part that plugs into the computer) shorting out with similar symptoms. Sincerely, Scott -- I don't need to compromise my principles, because they don't have the slightest bearing on what happens to me anyway. -Calvin -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Yo-yo PSU
From: Scott Crick [EMAIL PROTECTED] something came loose because the cord darkened as if burned right at that spot and the adapter only works if I hold the cord in a certain position. Not an optimal (nor necessarily safe) operating condition. I wouldn't call 24V unsafe however you handle it. Maybe licking the terminals doesn't feel too good, but otherwise no problems... Laurence _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Yo-yo PSU
- Original Message - From: Tekno Liber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: G-Books [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 3:34 AM Subject: Re: Yo-yo PSU From: Scott Crick [EMAIL PROTECTED] my original yo-yo adapter died a slow and painful death. I've heard that the yo-yo isn't the best. Mine's ok, but what is the weak point, what should I look out for in a preventive way ? Laurence The 2 weak points are where the wire comes out at the center of the spool and where it attaches to the back of the plug both these points tend to get a lot of wear. I tend to try to keep a loop around the center so there is little or no tension on the point where it enters there. On the other end, I always make sure I grasp the whole plug piece when connecting or disconnecting so that I don't strain the wire. I've had my Pismo and 2 Yo-Yo's for over 3 years and haven't had a problem with either of them. Joe Ellis -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Yo-yo PSU
Speaking as an electrical engineer, voltages of any magnitude can be dangerous if mishandled. If the cabling/housing of the yo-yo was blackened by the fault, it could have just as easily ignited. While 24v isn't likely to injure you (unlike, say, 270v 3-phase AC) it can make things happen that can. If anyone would like to test this theory, just go out to your car and short your battery (only 12v!) with a large metal object, the resulting fire should serve as proof enough. -Andrew On Friday, September 26, 2003, at 08:15 AM, Tekno Liber wrote: I wouldn't call 24V unsafe however you handle it. Maybe licking the terminals doesn't feel too good, but otherwise no problems... -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Yo-yo PSU
on 26/09/03 09:07, Andrew Johnson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking as an electrical engineer, voltages of any magnitude can be dangerous if mishandled. If the cabling/housing of the yo-yo was blackened by the fault, it could have just as easily ignited. While 24v isn't likely to injure you (unlike, say, 270v 3-phase AC) it can make things happen that can. If anyone would like to test this theory, just go out to your car and short your battery (only 12v!) with a large metal object, the resulting fire should serve as proof enough. Andrew, I'm not sure you should mention those kind of tests. You never know, someone might really try it ;-) -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] copy protection n.: A class of methods for preventing incompetent pirates from stealing software and legitimate customers from using it. Considered silly. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Yo-yo PSU
From: Andrew Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Speaking as an electrical engineer snip If anyone would like to test this theory, just go out to your car and short your battery (only 12v!) with a large metal object, the resulting fire should serve as proof enough. Ok, if you're an electrical engineer then you should also be able to distinguish between the enormous charge that is held in the ca battery and the puny 2A available in a laptop PSU... Laurence _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Yo-yo PSU
From: Joe Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] The 2 weak points are where the wire comes out at the center of the spool and where it attaches to the back of the plug both these points tend to get a lot of wear. That's what I thought. I tend to try to keep a loop around the center so there is little or no tension on the point where it enters there. I leave more than one turn of cable and make sure I have enought high voltage (230V over here) so that I don't need to extend the 24V lead all the way. Kinda figured the answer by logic but wanted to see what others had experienced. Laurence _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
