Re: advice on laptop purchase

[geno]

An Apple branded dock would be nice, but then also that would mess up the clean
white surface of the bottom of my ibook.

geno.

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Re: advice on laptop purchase

[Steve Fuller]

Yes!  I'm glad you mentioned that as it was an important factor for me 
as well.  Given that a laptop doesn't have any "expansion bays" I like 
having a PCMCIA slot as a little bit of "future proofing".
Am I not the only one that wishes that Apple would put some sort of 
docking connector on the bottom of their powerbooks? I know some 3rd 
parties make docking connectors that attach to the side of the 
powerbook, but something that the powerbook sat down in or on would 
sure be nice

Steve
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Re: advice on laptop purchase

[Timothy J. Luoma]

On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 21:16:55 +0300, P. H. Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Another feature to consider that I haven't seem mentioned yet is that  
the PB has a PCMCIA slot (like the Pismo).

...Perhaps a niche feature, but when taking all things into  
consideration, it might be the thing that tips the scales to the PB's  
favor. It was certainly a factor for me.
Yes!  I'm glad you mentioned that as it was an important factor for me as  
well.  Given that a laptop doesn't have any "expansion bays" I like having  
a PCMCIA slot as a little bit of "future proofing".

My current laptop was made before Firewire or Wireless Ethernet was well  
known, but because it has the PCMCIA slots, I was able to get a WIFI card  
and a FW card and add it to my computer.

You never know what next big thing is just around the corner and will  
require a port that you might not have on your machine.  PCMCIA gives you  
a bit of upgrade power.

Good thing, too, otherwise I would have had no way to use my iPod for the  
last year ;-)

TjL
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Re: advice on laptop purchase

[P. H. Adams]

On Apr 26, 2004, at 2:54 AM, Kathryn Odell wrote:
I am contemplating a purchase of a new laptop to replace my G3 
firewire (Pismo).
Another feature to consider that I haven't seem mentioned yet is that 
the PB has a PCMCIA slot (like the Pismo). I find this incredibly 
useful for transferring pics from my CompactFlash cards via a Flash 
Card adapter card. It's fast, doesn't take up a lot of space, and no 
extra cords or devices to contend with. Perhaps a niche feature, but 
when taking all things into consideration, it might be the thing that 
tips the scales to the PB's favor. It was certainly a factor for me.
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Re: advice on laptop purchase

[Steve Fuller]

--14" ibook (1.2 Ghz, 256 MB DDR266 RAM, Bluetooth, SuperDrive, 512 L2 
cache, 60 GB HD, Radeon 9200, 32 MB Video memory, airport extreme 
(note that I have customized what this comes with)

--15" PowerBook (1.5 Ghz, 512 MB DDR333 RAM, Bluetooth, SuperDrive, 
512 L2 cache, 80 GB HD, Radeon 9700, 64 MB Video memory, airport 
extreme, FW 400 & 800
They are both pretty close on features. Remember that the PowerBook is 
going to come with an LCD that has slightly higher resolution (1024 x 
768 on the iBook, and 1280x854 on the PowerBook). After spending some 
time looking at the screens on both at a local store, I found the 
PowerBook screen to be a little bit better looking. The iBook 
officially only supports video mirroring, while the PowerBook can use 
an external monitor as additional desktop space. Over a 5 year span, I 
think that I would choose the Powerbook, if for nothing other than the 
slightly faster processor and the better video card. Generally you want 
to buy as much as you can afford to, especially if you are considering 
purchasing a laptop.

Steve Fuller
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Re: advice on laptop purchase

[Timothy J. Luoma]

On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 16:54:37 -0700, Kathryn Odell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

With the ibook I know I would need to upgrade memory. How important is  
the faster RAM, the extra video memory, the improved video card, and the  
bump in processor speed for working with iMovie and iDVD? The price  
difference is pretty dramatic-- like $500-600!
FWIW, I tend to amortize the price difference over the life of the  
machine.  This is especially true with laptops as they can't be upgraded  
easily (or at all in some aspects).

Assume you can get 5 years out of the machine
$500 / 5 years / 12 months = $8/month for the extra.  Or about $0.30/day.
In the end, I decided that it was worth it to me in the long run to get  
the extra performance of a Powerbook.

I think you're the only one who can answer the "is it worth it" question.   
I would believe that the overall speed of the Powerbook would be better  
for your tasks in the long run, but I can't say for sure.

This article might be helpful as a comparison:
http://www.techstuff.ca/archives/666.html
TjL
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Re: advice on laptop purchase

[AKR]

Hi Kate,
I would definitely go with the Powerbook if I was you.   I was 
contemplating almost the exact same options a few months ago but in the 
end, the Powerbook won out and I have never regretted buying it since.  
I got a 15" Al PB with the backlit keyboard, 80 Gig hard drive and 
Superdrive.   I did not add any RAM, although I may down the road.  I 
think you would appreciate the extra processor drive for iMovie and 
iDVD, although it is not absolutely essential.

The DVD burner has been a great asset.   Not only can I assist a local 
film production company with their film clips but I can also burn back 
up data DVD's, create DVD's for friends, and watch movies.   For iMovie 
and iDVD it is great.  I also have Final Cut Express.

The iBook is a great value but I have to say that I think  you will 
find the Powerbook a much better investment over the long run.

Good luck with your decision,
Amber
On 25-Apr-04, at 4:54 PM, Kathryn Odell wrote:
I am contemplating a purchase of a new laptop to replace my G3 
firewire (Pismo). I would like a DVD burner on it. I am looking at:

--14" ibook (1.2 Ghz, 256 MB DDR266 RAM, Bluetooth, SuperDrive, 512 L2 
cache, 60 GB HD, Radeon 9200, 32 MB Video memory, airport extreme 
(note that I have customized what this comes with)

--15" PowerBook (1.5 Ghz, 512 MB DDR333 RAM, Bluetooth, SuperDrive, 
512 L2 cache, 80 GB HD, Radeon 9700, 64 MB Video memory, airport 
extreme, FW 400 & 800

With the ibook I know I would need to upgrade memory. How important is 
the faster RAM, the extra video memory, the improved video card, and 
the bump in processor speed for working with iMovie and iDVD? The 
price difference is pretty dramatic-- like $500-600!

Any advice would be appreciated!
Kate
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Re: advice on laptop purchase

[B Gardner]

You pay for quality--and speed!
I have a 15" and am quite happy. I researched both the iBook and the 
PowerBook. They are both real nice and fast but you will wish you had 
gotten the PowerBook later. If you can afford the PB over the iBook 
then definitely go with it. I did not have the money to get a 80 GB 
drive, superdrive or backlight keyboard. I wish I had. I did get more 
RAM (512) and I also had AP Extreme installed. One other suggestion: 
get AppleCare for the product you buy. It is definitely worth it even 
though it is a sizable bite.

All the best. And what are you doing with the Pismo?
Best Regards,
Byron
On Apr 25, 2004, at 6:54 PM, Kathryn Odell wrote:
I am contemplating a purchase of a new laptop to replace my G3 
firewire (Pismo). I would like a DVD burner on it. I am looking at:

--14" ibook (1.2 Ghz, 256 MB DDR266 RAM, Bluetooth, SuperDrive, 512 L2 
cache, 60 GB HD, Radeon 9200, 32 MB Video memory, airport extreme 
(note that I have customized what this comes with)

--15" PowerBook (1.5 Ghz, 512 MB DDR333 RAM, Bluetooth, SuperDrive, 
512 L2 cache, 80 GB HD, Radeon 9700, 64 MB Video memory, airport 
extreme, FW 400 & 800

With the ibook I know I would need to upgrade memory. How important is 
the faster RAM, the extra video memory, the improved video card, and 
the bump in processor speed for working with iMovie and iDVD? The 
price difference is pretty dramatic-- like $500-600!

Any advice would be appreciated!
Kate
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advice on laptop purchase

[Kathryn Odell]

I am contemplating a purchase of a new laptop to replace my G3 firewire 
(Pismo). I would like a DVD burner on it. I am looking at:

--14" ibook (1.2 Ghz, 256 MB DDR266 RAM, Bluetooth, SuperDrive, 512 L2 
cache, 60 GB HD, Radeon 9200, 32 MB Video memory, airport extreme (note 
that I have customized what this comes with)

--15" PowerBook (1.5 Ghz, 512 MB DDR333 RAM, Bluetooth, SuperDrive, 512 
L2 cache, 80 GB HD, Radeon 9700, 64 MB Video memory, airport extreme, 
FW 400 & 800

With the ibook I know I would need to upgrade memory. How important is 
the faster RAM, the extra video memory, the improved video card, and 
the bump in processor speed for working with iMovie and iDVD? The price 
difference is pretty dramatic-- like $500-600!

Any advice would be appreciated!
Kate
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