any requirement for OSX on first 8gb on a Pismo?

2005-12-09 Thread kaldav

Hello,
Can anyone tell me if OSX 10.4 must be installed on the first 8 gb of 
a hard drive on a Pismo?

Thanks.

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Re: any requirement for OSX on first 8gb on a Pismo?

2005-12-09 Thread chris
Can anyone tell me if OSX 10.4 must be installed on the first 8 gb of 
a hard drive on a Pismo?

I recently upgraded my Pismo's drive to a 60 GB drive and I cloned my 
10.3 install to that drive. I did not partition the drive in any way and 
all works just fine, so I'd have to guess that no, there is no 8 GB limit 
on the Pismo (not like the way the 1st gen iMac needs OS X in a partition 
that does not exceed the first 8 GB).

-chris
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Re: any requirement for OSX on first 8gb on a Pismo?

2005-12-09 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Dec 9, 2005, at 5:48 AM, kaldav wrote:


Hello,
Can anyone tell me if OSX 10.4 must be installed on the first 8 gb  
of a hard drive on a Pismo?


No.

The ONLY machines that this limit applies to are: WallStreet, Beige  
G3s and the first generation iMacs.


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Re: any requirement for OSX on first 8gb on a Pismo?

2005-12-09 Thread Tom W.
Interestingly though, I have a Wallstreet upgraded to a G4 with a 60
gig drive and while I could not install Panther on it unless I
partitioned it, Tiger installed just fine using Xpostfacto (I hope I
spelled that right).
Tom

On 12/9/05, Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Dec 9, 2005, at 5:48 AM, kaldav wrote:

  Hello,
  Can anyone tell me if OSX 10.4 must be installed on the first 8 gb
  of a hard drive on a Pismo?

 No.

 The ONLY machines that this limit applies to are: WallStreet, Beige
 G3s and the first generation iMacs.

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Re: any requirement for OSX on first 8gb on a Pismo?

2005-12-09 Thread Clark Martin

At 8:24 AM -0500 12/9/05, chris wrote:

 Can anyone tell me if OSX 10.4 must be installed on the first 8 gb of

a hard drive on a Pismo?


I recently upgraded my Pismo's drive to a 60 GB drive and I cloned my
10.3 install to that drive. I did not partition the drive in any way and
all works just fine, so I'd have to guess that no, there is no 8 GB limit
on the Pismo (not like the way the 1st gen iMac needs OS X in a partition
that does not exceed the first 8 GB).


While it's true the Pismo doesn't have the limit, that it worked in 
this case isn't a valid test.  You can do the same thing to those 
machines with the limit and it may work.  It depends on certain files 
being located in the first 8Gb.  The limit isn't on how big a drive 
you can have but is based on the boot code being able to load some 
files only in the first 8Gb.  The installer requires that the boot 
volume be 8Gb to avoid any possibility of the files being outside the 
8Gb limit.

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Re: any requirement for OSX on first 8gb on a Pismo?

2005-12-09 Thread chris
While it's true the Pismo doesn't have the limit, that it worked in 
this case isn't a valid test.  You can do the same thing to those 
machines with the limit and it may work.  It depends on certain files 
being located in the first 8Gb.  The limit isn't on how big a drive 
you can have but is based on the boot code being able to load some 
files only in the first 8Gb.  The installer requires that the boot 
volume be 8Gb to avoid any possibility of the files being outside the 
8Gb limit.

Very true.

My bad on my reply... it originally had a lead in section that mentioned 
that I originally installed OS X (10.3) on a 12 GB drive that was in the 
Pismo when I got it about a year ago. Again with no partitioning.

I then recently upgraded it to a 60 GB and cloned it when I did so.

With my lead in section, it makes it a little more clear that it doesn't 
appear to have the 8 GB limit. Without it, as you point out, it doesn't 
really mean much. Where that lead in paragraph went, I have no idea. I'll 
chalk it up to either distraction when I was editing my reply, or my 
email client once again ate part of it (for a reason I have yet to figure 
out, Emailer running under OS X seems to periodically decide the mouse 
has clicked and dragged instead of just moving over an area... as a 
result, I periodically loose parts of emails that are selected and then 
deleted when I press anything on the keyboard, such as the enter key to 
send the email... don't know why it happens, and although it is very 
annoying, I've not bothered to spend much time trying to figure it out... 
with Classic going bye bye on the upcoming Intel based Macs, I'll be 
forced to leave Emailer behind anyway)

-chris
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Re: any requirement for OSX on first 8gb on a Pismo?

2005-12-09 Thread Caleb Cupples


On Friday, Dec 9, 2005, at 07:24 America/Chicago, chris wrote:


Can anyone tell me if OSX 10.4 must be installed on the first 8 gb of
a hard drive on a Pismo?


I recently upgraded my Pismo's drive to a 60 GB drive and I cloned my
10.3 install to that drive. I did not partition the drive in any way 
and
all works just fine, so I'd have to guess that no, there is no 8 GB 
limit
on the Pismo (not like the way the 1st gen iMac needs OS X in a 
partition

that does not exceed the first 8 GB.


The reason that all the PowerBooks after the Wallstreet II have the 
New World 4 MB ROM.  The 1G iMac and the pre-Lombard 'Books have the 
Old World ROM. The Pismo doesn't have the first 8 GB limitation because 
of this.


This should clarify things some.
Caleb


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